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Has urban art gone soft?, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:34:46 GMT 1, Flicking through instagram and reading the link below, there are plenty of interesting urban art / graf stories out there and these are about real street artists doing their thing all over the world, yet they're never mentioned on here.
So has the forum got bogged down in the likes of Whatson and his ilk? That type of artist is fine but hardly breaking any boundaries. Only Mikey Dread and Feral have tried to explore this area and have done a superb job, Incidentally, there's nothing wrong by the way in discussing the latest gallery show or artist of the moment, but it's all a bit soft and surely not why we got into urban art.
So, I'll start off..who was the artist(s) involved in the story below? What were the images on the train? I'm intrigued to know more.
www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/fury-as-passengers-kicked-off-train-delayed-by-wrong-kind-of-graffiti-a3367116.html
Flicking through instagram and reading the link below, there are plenty of interesting urban art / graf stories out there and these are about real street artists doing their thing all over the world, yet they're never mentioned on here. So has the forum got bogged down in the likes of Whatson and his ilk? That type of artist is fine but hardly breaking any boundaries. Only Mikey Dread and Feral have tried to explore this area and have done a superb job, Incidentally, there's nothing wrong by the way in discussing the latest gallery show or artist of the moment, but it's all a bit soft and surely not why we got into urban art. So, I'll start off..who was the artist(s) involved in the story below? What were the images on the train? I'm intrigued to know more. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/fury-as-passengers-kicked-off-train-delayed-by-wrong-kind-of-graffiti-a3367116.html |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:42:47 GMT 1, i love this from the comments section
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Thameslink has previously tweeted: “We can’t drive around all day with the 6ft F-word emblazoned on a train.”
Why not? They've been f*cking their passengers for years.
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Thameslink has previously tweeted: “We can’t drive around all day with the 6ft F-word emblazoned on a train.”
Why not? They've been f*cking their passengers for years.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Coach on Nov 2, 2016 22:05:52 GMT 1, Flicking through instagram and reading the link below, there are plenty of interesting urban art / graf stories out there and these are about real street artists doing their thing all over the world, yet they're never mentioned on here. So has the forum got bogged down in the likes of Whatson and his ilk? That type of artist is fine but hardly breaking any boundaries. Only Mikey Dread and Feral have tried to explore this area and have done a superb job, Incidentally, there's nothing wrong by the way in discussing the latest gallery show or artist of the moment, but it's all a bit soft and surely not why we got into urban art. So, I'll start off..who was the artist(s) involved in the story below? What were the images on the train? I'm intrigued to know more. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/fury-as-passengers-kicked-off-train-delayed-by-wrong-kind-of-graffiti-a3367116.html
5 grand to wash some Graf?! I wonder whether they don't sometimes just pick these figures from the air, for shock value.
Flicking through instagram and reading the link below, there are plenty of interesting urban art / graf stories out there and these are about real street artists doing their thing all over the world, yet they're never mentioned on here. So has the forum got bogged down in the likes of Whatson and his ilk? That type of artist is fine but hardly breaking any boundaries. Only Mikey Dread and Feral have tried to explore this area and have done a superb job, Incidentally, there's nothing wrong by the way in discussing the latest gallery show or artist of the moment, but it's all a bit soft and surely not why we got into urban art. So, I'll start off..who was the artist(s) involved in the story below? What were the images on the train? I'm intrigued to know more. www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/fury-as-passengers-kicked-off-train-delayed-by-wrong-kind-of-graffiti-a3367116.html5 grand to wash some Graf?! I wonder whether they don't sometimes just pick these figures from the air, for shock value. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Daniel Silk on Nov 2, 2016 23:29:57 GMT 1, I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things  and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint.
I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by energy on Nov 3, 2016 0:10:03 GMT 1, Urban art hasn't gone soft it's gone dull.
It's just different people doing the same images like Marilyn Monroe or artist rehashing the same theme they've been doing for 10 years or more.
Urban art hasn't gone soft it's gone dull.
It's just different people doing the same images like Marilyn Monroe or artist rehashing the same theme they've been doing for 10 years or more.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Coach on Nov 3, 2016 0:33:13 GMT 1, There's plenty of edgy work still being created.
You just have to look for it. Rarely will you find it on here.
There's plenty of edgy work still being created.
You just have to look for it. Rarely will you find it on here.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Coach on Nov 3, 2016 1:04:25 GMT 1, I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint.
"...saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality."
Can you elaborate on this? I'm not following the point you are making.
I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint. "...saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality." Can you elaborate on this? I'm not following the point you are making. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by laurentbaboo on Nov 3, 2016 1:26:41 GMT 1, I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint. "...saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality." Can you elaborate on this? I'm not following the point you are making.
Don't quite get your point either!
Is art/street art word only réserved for an élite? With a luxury life?
Sorry if i misunderstood your comment.
I think things have become very main stream and gone a bit watered down. But saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality. All those artists need to pay the bills, but will only tell you about the glamorous and gritty Street Art side of things and not about how they stack shelves in Tescos at the weekend to pay for paint. "...saying that, I think many people in the early days and even now have sort of created a imaginary graff, street art, rebel, revolutionary world, that doesn't really stack up in reality." Can you elaborate on this? I'm not following the point you are making. Don't quite get your point either! Is art/street art word only réserved for an élite? With a luxury life? Sorry if i misunderstood your comment. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by nex on Nov 3, 2016 4:57:36 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art
Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art
Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by nex on Nov 3, 2016 5:00:57 GMT 1, There's plenty of edgy work still being created. You just have to look for it. Rarely will you find it on here.
There's plenty of edgy work still being created. You just have to look for it. Rarely will you find it on here. please give some examples Coach, I know there's plenty of contemporary art that's challenging but urban art? Really? |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 5:36:32 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
Plus the ever increasing rehashing of old images by newer artists is there for all to see.
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. Its even softer now, lots of different colourways of candy arsed images to soothe the troubled mind... Plus the ever increasing rehashing of old images by newer artists is there for all to see. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 3, 2016 5:44:58 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
Yep.
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. Yep. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by El Pulpo on Nov 3, 2016 6:55:11 GMT 1, At NuArt, we were debating of a new term to use as post street art. Does any of you were there?
At NuArt, we were debating of a new term to use as post street art. Does any of you were there?
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Has urban art gone soft?, by d.r. perseus on Nov 3, 2016 7:00:44 GMT 1, thread needs glitter
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Geezer Mate on Nov 3, 2016 9:35:11 GMT 1, If someone gives me a wall I could do my doodle Ha!
Or train
If someone gives me a wall I could do my doodle Ha! Or train |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Momo on Nov 3, 2016 10:12:37 GMT 1, The whole world's gone soft!
The whole world's gone soft!
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Happy Shopper on Nov 3, 2016 10:55:54 GMT 1, This forum has become all about pretty pictures by mediocre artists, that get hyped in the hope of flipping.
Having said that, I think it's down to some of the original artists getting out of most people's price ranges, and so everyone's still trying to find the next big thing (It's been happening since the beginning actually).
But the scene's not helped by great new artists releasing mediocre prints too!
I'm surprised there's not more attention for artists like Cleon Peterson, Aryz, Pose, Steven Powers, Bast, Faile, Todd James... instead it's all Whatson, Sandra Chevrier and their ilk of imitation "street art". Or that's how it feels sometimes. 
This forum has become all about pretty pictures by mediocre artists, that get hyped in the hope of flipping. Having said that, I think it's down to some of the original artists getting out of most people's price ranges, and so everyone's still trying to find the next big thing (It's been happening since the beginning actually). But the scene's not helped by great new artists releasing mediocre prints too! I'm surprised there's not more attention for artists like Cleon Peterson, Aryz, Pose, Steven Powers, Bast, Faile, Todd James... instead it's all Whatson, Sandra Chevrier and their ilk of imitation "street art". Or that's how it feels sometimes. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Daniel Silk on Nov 3, 2016 12:24:21 GMT 1, Yeah, certainly seems to be no rhyme or reason what artists are popular. So many great artists get overlooked, while others are jet setting around the world like superstars when it's questionable if their art is original or will be remembered in a few years time.
Yeah, certainly seems to be no rhyme or reason what artists are popular. So many great artists get overlooked, while others are jet setting around the world like superstars when it's questionable if their art is original or will be remembered in a few years time.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by avec art on Nov 3, 2016 12:52:59 GMT 1, if we could only find a way to make it stick
if we could only find a way to make it stick |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Daniel Silk on Nov 3, 2016 14:32:32 GMT 1,
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Has urban art gone soft?, by brujo420 on Nov 3, 2016 14:54:59 GMT 1, If has people gone blind?
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Has urban art gone soft?, by nobokov on Nov 3, 2016 15:37:40 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
You can't really rise up if you don't know what's going on.
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. Maybe it's a sign of the times. I don't know how it is in the UK, but at least in the US, 30+ years of being inundated by advertisements, the media, etc, have made the country entirely politically correct, uninformed, and uncaring to the plight of the common man and democracy in general. It's exactly as Noam Chomsky wrote about in his book, 'Manufacturing Consent,' and the lack of protests, political movements, the rise of f**kingDONALD TRUMP??, speak to how docile the country is. Perhaps all of this pretty 'urban' art is just a reflection of that? You can't really rise up if you don't know what's going on. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by cyberkid on Nov 3, 2016 15:41:36 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system.
indeed nex - i would add:
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art > Contemporary Art
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. indeed nex - i would add: Graf > Street Art > Urban Art > Contemporary Art |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by nex on Nov 4, 2016 22:33:21 GMT 1, Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. indeed nex - i would add: Graf > Street Art > Urban Art > Contemporary Art
Thats a good discussion cyber, I honestly think there's a decent amount of contemporary that challenges the system (from within) more so than urban art has ever done, or street art for that matter. The issue with contemporary art is in general it's not for the masses, so is an elitist critique that's lost.
Graf > Street Art > Urban Art Urban art has always been soft, it's the legalisation and commercialisation of a movement that 30+ years ago was about breaking the system. indeed nex - i would add: Graf > Street Art > Urban Art > Contemporary Art Thats a good discussion cyber, I honestly think there's a decent amount of contemporary that challenges the system (from within) more so than urban art has ever done, or street art for that matter. The issue with contemporary art is in general it's not for the masses, so is an elitist critique that's lost. |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by valentina on Nov 5, 2016 15:36:42 GMT 1, Yes. Only a small amount I am interested in anymore. Artist I used to love have gotten lazy, and most of the new stuff is shit. I'm a bit broken up about it actually.
Yes. Only a small amount I am interested in anymore. Artist I used to love have gotten lazy, and most of the new stuff is shit. I'm a bit broken up about it actually.
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Has urban art gone soft?, by mmmike on Nov 6, 2016 5:09:00 GMT 1, I think the more you learn your history the more you realise just how boring so much of "urban art" is today. Not to say there isn't talent out there but lucky for me so many are chasing these flavours of the moment artists so I can enjoy the legends in peace
My advice, get back to basics. When I get sick of all the silly stuff here I spend time at at Pictures of walls. It never disappoints.
www.picturesofwalls.com/gallery.asp?album=48&id=11571
I think the more you learn your history the more you realise just how boring so much of "urban art" is today. Not to say there isn't talent out there but lucky for me so many are chasing these flavours of the moment artists so I can enjoy the legends in peace My advice, get back to basics. When I get sick of all the silly stuff here I spend time at at Pictures of walls. It never disappoints. www.picturesofwalls.com/gallery.asp?album=48&id=11571 |
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Bill Hicks on Nov 6, 2016 12:20:30 GMT 1, home.ekosystem.org/
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Leo Boyd on Nov 6, 2016 21:53:12 GMT 1, I like the title of this thread... where I live pretty much all the street art is pictures of pretty girls looking enigmatic or some cartoon dude wearing headphones.
oh there is a really nice LGBT one that is basically a smirnoff advert
as kurt vonegut said
So its goes
I like the title of this thread... where I live pretty much all the street art is pictures of pretty girls looking enigmatic or some cartoon dude wearing headphones.
oh there is a really nice LGBT one that is basically a smirnoff advert
as kurt vonegut said
So its goes
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Has urban art gone soft?, by Leo Boyd on Nov 6, 2016 22:19:46 GMT 1, cheers for this
some pretty great stuff on here
cheers for this some pretty great stuff on here |
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