mlinderer
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by mlinderer on Dec 1, 2016 5:28:05 GMT 1, I am interested in buying two original paintings from a UK gallery with a combined list price of £3100. These paintings are left over from a show from 2008 and have remained on their site for the same price for years, I've been watching. I've contacted the gallery to confirm they still have themy and they do. I contacted the gallery back in 2012 about the same two pieces and they said they could not discount at the time when I asked about them. Here it is another 4 years later and they still have them and I am fairly certain I am their only market for these items.
Is negotiating with galleries a thing, and if so what is the best way to go about it in this situation?
I am interested in buying two original paintings from a UK gallery with a combined list price of £3100. These paintings are left over from a show from 2008 and have remained on their site for the same price for years, I've been watching. I've contacted the gallery to confirm they still have themy and they do. I contacted the gallery back in 2012 about the same two pieces and they said they could not discount at the time when I asked about them. Here it is another 4 years later and they still have them and I am fairly certain I am their only market for these items.
Is negotiating with galleries a thing, and if so what is the best way to go about it in this situation?
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 5:47:49 GMT 1, Everything is negotiable up until the seller says 'no'. I'd just contact them through email or phone and offer £2000 for the two and hope to settle at £2500, letting them know you know they have had them for sale for 8 years. If that doesn't work, perhaps you could contact the artist that painted them, explain the situation to him or her and perhaps he or she could produce a slightly different 1/1 for you for the price you are willing to pay, or he or she could contact the gallery and tell them to sell it at the price you are willing to pay.
Or you just may bes**t out of luck
Everything is negotiable up until the seller says 'no'. I'd just contact them through email or phone and offer £2000 for the two and hope to settle at £2500, letting them know you know they have had them for sale for 8 years. If that doesn't work, perhaps you could contact the artist that painted them, explain the situation to him or her and perhaps he or she could produce a slightly different 1/1 for you for the price you are willing to pay, or he or she could contact the gallery and tell them to sell it at the price you are willing to pay. Or you just may bes**t out of luck
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lucky7
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by lucky7 on Dec 1, 2016 6:15:43 GMT 1, Yes, you can negotiate. Sometimes, if you want to establish a relationship or if the art is already too cheap, it's good form to not haggle.
But especially since you are buying two, it's understandable you ask for a slight deduction.
I wouldnt mention you know they have had them for a while. They already know, so it might seem disrespectful.
I would ask for 15% off and settle for anything between 10 and 5% off.
Yes, you can negotiate. Sometimes, if you want to establish a relationship or if the art is already too cheap, it's good form to not haggle.
But especially since you are buying two, it's understandable you ask for a slight deduction.
I wouldnt mention you know they have had them for a while. They already know, so it might seem disrespectful.
I would ask for 15% off and settle for anything between 10 and 5% off.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Amber Halo on Dec 1, 2016 6:32:19 GMT 1, It is all negotiable. Many gallerys won't want to "discount" the perceived value of their artists, but explaining you are a true fan and would be discreet with any discounts offered would likely go a long way to reaching a deal.
It is all negotiable. Many gallerys won't want to "discount" the perceived value of their artists, but explaining you are a true fan and would be discreet with any discounts offered would likely go a long way to reaching a deal.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by tobeannounced on Dec 1, 2016 9:16:41 GMT 1, I have never paid full price from a gallery, when all is said and done, it's a business and times are rough.
What type of discount you can get is an entirely different matter, everything above 15% and you are starting to cut into their core-profit.
Personally I would ask them directly what their lowest price was, considering you are buying both and that you are aware that they have been unsold for 8 years. Almost regardless of what price they then give, I would write back politely, that I had envisioned something a bit lower and that I was going to have to pass on the offer. More than likely, they will write you back with a different offer, trying to secure the deal.
I do this all the time, and on my last 3 purchases from galleries, I have had 20-30% discounts, and these where from artists that sell out fairly quickly (Roy Lichtenstein, Barbara Kruger & HuskMitNavn).
If they are not willing to give you any kind of discount, they are either really bad at doing business or they have some motives that go beyond just selling the art, for example if there is some prestige involved in having the art/artist represented.
I have never paid full price from a gallery, when all is said and done, it's a business and times are rough.
What type of discount you can get is an entirely different matter, everything above 15% and you are starting to cut into their core-profit.
Personally I would ask them directly what their lowest price was, considering you are buying both and that you are aware that they have been unsold for 8 years. Almost regardless of what price they then give, I would write back politely, that I had envisioned something a bit lower and that I was going to have to pass on the offer. More than likely, they will write you back with a different offer, trying to secure the deal.
I do this all the time, and on my last 3 purchases from galleries, I have had 20-30% discounts, and these where from artists that sell out fairly quickly (Roy Lichtenstein, Barbara Kruger & HuskMitNavn).
If they are not willing to give you any kind of discount, they are either really bad at doing business or they have some motives that go beyond just selling the art, for example if there is some prestige involved in having the art/artist represented.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Daniel Silk on Dec 1, 2016 9:18:33 GMT 1, I am interested in buying two original paintings from a UK gallery with a combined list price of £3100. These paintings are left over from a show from 2008 and have remained on their site for the same price for years, I've been watching. I've contacted the gallery to confirm they still have themy and they do. I contacted the gallery back in 2012 about the same two pieces and they said they could not discount at the time when I asked about them. Here it is another 4 years later and they still have them and I am fairly certain I am their only market for these items. Is negotiating with galleries a thing, and if so what is the best way to go about it in this situation? Maybe it's worth contacting the actual Artist about the pieces it's possible he has never been paid for them, and the gallery are just advertising them at an agreed value, but the Artist now might be happier to reduce his cut. worth a try
I am interested in buying two original paintings from a UK gallery with a combined list price of £3100. These paintings are left over from a show from 2008 and have remained on their site for the same price for years, I've been watching. I've contacted the gallery to confirm they still have themy and they do. I contacted the gallery back in 2012 about the same two pieces and they said they could not discount at the time when I asked about them. Here it is another 4 years later and they still have them and I am fairly certain I am their only market for these items. Is negotiating with galleries a thing, and if so what is the best way to go about it in this situation? Maybe it's worth contacting the actual Artist about the pieces it's possible he has never been paid for them, and the gallery are just advertising them at an agreed value, but the Artist now might be happier to reduce his cut. worth a try
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bustart
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by bustart on Dec 1, 2016 10:13:56 GMT 1, if i sell a canvas at a gallery there is always room for price negotiate mostly arround 10-20%, especially when someone buys more than one. dont feel bad for the gallery they will share the loss with the artist. if i sell art direct i always give a discount if i got ask for it. a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
if i sell a canvas at a gallery there is always room for price negotiate mostly arround 10-20%, especially when someone buys more than one. dont feel bad for the gallery they will share the loss with the artist. if i sell art direct i always give a discount if i got ask for it. a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
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Bill Hicks
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Bill Hicks on Dec 1, 2016 10:17:47 GMT 1,
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by ABC on Dec 1, 2016 10:26:29 GMT 1, The gallery would/should contact the artist and ask them. I'm suprised they have hung around for that amount of time so normally a "sold" label always looks better for both parties. What's the worse they can say "no"?
The gallery would/should contact the artist and ask them. I'm suprised they have hung around for that amount of time so normally a "sold" label always looks better for both parties. What's the worse they can say "no"?
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by loartve on Dec 1, 2016 11:32:51 GMT 1, This depends on how motivated the gallery is to sell. Some/ most galleries will discount 10-15% on older stock as a standard, and potentially more
This depends on how motivated the gallery is to sell. Some/ most galleries will discount 10-15% on older stock as a standard, and potentially more
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 13:52:49 GMT 1, Discount for cash
Discount for cash
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sl
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by sl on Dec 1, 2016 14:12:53 GMT 1, I have gotten discounts from galleries as well. The key is to be respectful and polite. Galleries often present an intimidating presence seeming too good for mere mortals however they are a business and business needs to move product. Ask nicely, express your seriousness and be willing to walk away if not satisfied with the price. Set a budget that would make you happy and is fair to both parties
I have gotten discounts from galleries as well. The key is to be respectful and polite. Galleries often present an intimidating presence seeming too good for mere mortals however they are a business and business needs to move product. Ask nicely, express your seriousness and be willing to walk away if not satisfied with the price. Set a budget that would make you happy and is fair to both parties
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by sin on Dec 1, 2016 14:33:29 GMT 1, If I'm picking up something in a preview and it's high demand, even multiple pieces, I don't ask.
Otherwise if early in a show I ask for 10% Later in show 20% After the show comes down 30%
8 years later, unless the artists cache has risen I'd go in at 40% If the artists cache has risen then that rule is off.
Buying multiples I ask for 20% If I'm buying a large piece I ask for 20%. (The market for larger pieces is limited)
After 8 years, is check with the artist direct unless I'm concerned about a long term relationship with the gallery. Even though they told you they were in inventory, I wouldn't assume that this is true.
If I'm picking up something in a preview and it's high demand, even multiple pieces, I don't ask.
Otherwise if early in a show I ask for 10% Later in show 20% After the show comes down 30%
8 years later, unless the artists cache has risen I'd go in at 40% If the artists cache has risen then that rule is off.
Buying multiples I ask for 20% If I'm buying a large piece I ask for 20%. (The market for larger pieces is limited)
After 8 years, is check with the artist direct unless I'm concerned about a long term relationship with the gallery. Even though they told you they were in inventory, I wouldn't assume that this is true.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 14:41:14 GMT 1, All purchases I've made from galleries have been discounted either through being offered or asking. There's no harm in ever asking just don't steam in with a 90% discount. I've generally found galleries will contact me about a piece I previously asked about with a new price or a tiny deposit to tale it off the market if I can pay within 6 months for example.
All purchases I've made from galleries have been discounted either through being offered or asking. There's no harm in ever asking just don't steam in with a 90% discount. I've generally found galleries will contact me about a piece I previously asked about with a new price or a tiny deposit to tale it off the market if I can pay within 6 months for example.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 15:16:17 GMT 1, I never haggle,
I just pay the asking price.
I never haggle,
I just pay the asking price.
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sonmi451
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by sonmi451 on Dec 1, 2016 17:08:34 GMT 1, This is an awesome thread... thanks guys... I tried negotiating, respectfully, with a gallery and was rebuffed (respectfully). However, when I have inquired about other works and was willing to walk away, discounts/shipping offsets have been applied. As to the OP, and to echo other comments, it certainly can't hurt to try, particularly if it is diplomatic.
This is an awesome thread... thanks guys... I tried negotiating, respectfully, with a gallery and was rebuffed (respectfully). However, when I have inquired about other works and was willing to walk away, discounts/shipping offsets have been applied. As to the OP, and to echo other comments, it certainly can't hurt to try, particularly if it is diplomatic.
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mlinderer
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by mlinderer on Dec 4, 2016 2:43:44 GMT 1, Thanks all. I think I'll contact the artist and chat with him a bit first since I've got a good relationship with him. I've chatted with him before about these pieces and I get the impression that he considers these a lesser quality than the work he does these days. I know he is looking to round up some extra cash for a project he has going on so a good sale of some old inventory will surely help him out. If he would be willing to deal, I can have him contact the gallery and approve the discount.
Thanks all. I think I'll contact the artist and chat with him a bit first since I've got a good relationship with him. I've chatted with him before about these pieces and I get the impression that he considers these a lesser quality than the work he does these days. I know he is looking to round up some extra cash for a project he has going on so a good sale of some old inventory will surely help him out. If he would be willing to deal, I can have him contact the gallery and approve the discount.
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Art!
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Art! on Aug 1, 2019 21:04:51 GMT 1, Anyone have any opinions on this? I want to make an offer on a larger painting that has remained after a show is over and was thinking of asking for somewhere in the region of ~20/30% off.
Anyone have any opinions on this? I want to make an offer on a larger painting that has remained after a show is over and was thinking of asking for somewhere in the region of ~20/30% off.
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ahmz
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by ahmz on Aug 1, 2019 21:24:05 GMT 1, there are literally more than 10 answers to your question if you just scroll above.
just ask the gallery.
do grown adults have a fear of communication now? or is it a fear of rejection?
there are literally more than 10 answers to your question if you just scroll above.
just ask the gallery.
do grown adults have a fear of communication now? or is it a fear of rejection?
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by irl1 on Aug 1, 2019 21:28:22 GMT 1, Anyone have any opinions on this? I want to make an offer on a larger painting that has remained after a show is over and was thinking of asking for somewhere in the region of ~20/30% off. If this is a very large piece they will find it hard to move on. (depending on the artist)
I purchased two paintings from an artist a few years back, one was 20" X 16" inches cost, 1,400. The other was 6 Ft X 4 Ft cost, 300. (he had made the big one for an exhibition but it went unsold there)
Yes people do make offers to Galleries. Don't commit to a high offer you can always work off a lower offer and work your way up.
"Do get their asking price first before you make any offer"
Anyone have any opinions on this? I want to make an offer on a larger painting that has remained after a show is over and was thinking of asking for somewhere in the region of ~20/30% off. If this is a very large piece they will find it hard to move on. (depending on the artist) I purchased two paintings from an artist a few years back, one was 20" X 16" inches cost, 1,400. The other was 6 Ft X 4 Ft cost, 300. (he had made the big one for an exhibition but it went unsold there) Yes people do make offers to Galleries. Don't commit to a high offer you can always work off a lower offer and work your way up. "Do get their asking price first before you make any offer"
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Art!
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Art! on Aug 1, 2019 22:02:05 GMT 1, there are literally more than 10 answers to your question if you just scroll above. just ask the gallery. do grown adults have a fear of communication now? or is it a fear of rejection? No shit, that's why I posted in this thread before opening a new one.
there are literally more than 10 answers to your question if you just scroll above. just ask the gallery. do grown adults have a fear of communication now? or is it a fear of rejection? No shit, that's why I posted in this thread before opening a new one.
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Buying art from a gallery... can I negotiate with them? , by Express Post on Aug 1, 2019 22:08:29 GMT 1, Unless you have no qualms doing away with your dough or just love the image, try not to buy art that has been sitting, has been left on the shelf or nobody wants. Remember, no ragrets.
Unless you have no qualms doing away with your dough or just love the image, try not to buy art that has been sitting, has been left on the shelf or nobody wants. Remember, no ragrets.
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