balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 12:17:12 GMT 1, Hi Guys
I've sold a print to a guy in the USA. He has arranged the shipping through FedEx. When I printed out the labels I noticed that the description of goods says 'sample t-shirts' and also the guy has not insured the item. I'm pretty sure this would hang me out to dry with paypal if anything goes wrong during shipping. Am I right?
cheers
Bob
Hi Guys
I've sold a print to a guy in the USA. He has arranged the shipping through FedEx. When I printed out the labels I noticed that the description of goods says 'sample t-shirts' and also the guy has not insured the item. I'm pretty sure this would hang me out to dry with paypal if anything goes wrong during shipping. Am I right?
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a bit of advice please., by oxfordwelshchap on Feb 28, 2017 12:20:32 GMT 1, Some other member got burnt doing this recently. I wouldn't take the risk!
Some other member got burnt doing this recently. I wouldn't take the risk!
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a bit of advice please., by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 12:26:02 GMT 1, I'd not take the risk even though the buyer is sorting the shipping it is still the seller's responsibility to put the correct value etc..
I'd not take the risk even though the buyer is sorting the shipping it is still the seller's responsibility to put the correct value etc..
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a bit of advice please., by charliem on Feb 28, 2017 12:26:42 GMT 1, If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort.
If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort.
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balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 12:29:34 GMT 1, I've already emailed and said I won't ship until both have been addressed, just wanted to check I'm not being paranoid.
I've already emailed and said I won't ship until both have been addressed, just wanted to check I'm not being paranoid.
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Rsyok
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a bit of advice please., by Rsyok on Feb 28, 2017 12:32:10 GMT 1, Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do.
Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do.
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balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 12:40:58 GMT 1, Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do.
Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. He has already paid. He required me to raise the invoice in the normal way and also state the condition of the print on the invoice, which I was more than happy to do. |
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a bit of advice please., by oxfordwelshchap on Feb 28, 2017 13:01:09 GMT 1, If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort.
If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort. Im not sure this is true. Depends on how the buyer paid. Paypal gift or bank transfer then it might be ok but seems others have had lots of trouble recently with this. |
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Rsyok
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a bit of advice please., by Rsyok on Feb 28, 2017 13:02:51 GMT 1, He's a registered business (gallery) then so probably won't want to pay gift (after you refund). Suggest a bank transfer after explaining your concerns maybe ?
He's a registered business (gallery) then so probably won't want to pay gift (after you refund). Suggest a bank transfer after explaining your concerns maybe ?
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a bit of advice please., by Poster Bob on Feb 28, 2017 13:12:05 GMT 1, Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. He has already paid. He required me to raise the invoice in the normal way and also state the condition of the print on the invoice, which I was more than happy to do.
Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. He has already paid. He required me to raise the invoice in the normal way and also state the condition of the print on the invoice, which I was more than happy to do. Refund him and accept bank transfer only. |
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a bit of advice please., by El Pulpo on Feb 28, 2017 13:14:42 GMT 1, He has already paid. He required me to raise the invoice in the normal way and also state the condition of the print on the invoice, which I was more than happy to do. Refund him and accept bank transfer only.
Yep, best thing to do.
He has already paid. He required me to raise the invoice in the normal way and also state the condition of the print on the invoice, which I was more than happy to do. Refund him and accept bank transfer only. Yep, best thing to do. |
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a bit of advice please., by Ponyboy Curtis on Feb 28, 2017 13:20:11 GMT 1, If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort.
If he has arrange the delivery so it gets pick up from you, then surly if something goes wrong its up to him to sort. This is correct. However...I wouldn't take the chance without checking with Paypal first. |
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a bit of advice please., by chads007 on Feb 28, 2017 13:37:29 GMT 1, Myself and the OP I think dealt with the same guy given description. Paid via gift, I put artwork in description at the depot, got signed off by guy at depot as being correct, no issue since. Agree, bank transfer or gift only. I think the buyers description enabled a shipping discount, but was insured to full value by them.
Myself and the OP I think dealt with the same guy given description. Paid via gift, I put artwork in description at the depot, got signed off by guy at depot as being correct, no issue since. Agree, bank transfer or gift only. I think the buyers description enabled a shipping discount, but was insured to full value by them.
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a bit of advice please., by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2017 14:28:42 GMT 1, Get it in writing that he takes responsibility for loss or damage if he doesn't pay for insurance and has marked the item wrong.
As a seller I'd always want to make sure I'm covered though. The carefree buyer can suddenly change when the tube turns up damaged and it's your fault for packing it badly. 
Get it in writing that he takes responsibility for loss or damage if he doesn't pay for insurance and has marked the item wrong. As a seller I'd always want to make sure I'm covered though. The carefree buyer can suddenly change when the tube turns up damaged and it's your fault for packing it badly. |
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thugs
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a bit of advice please., by thugs on Feb 28, 2017 14:36:44 GMT 1, iirc, someone was scammed here a couple of years ago by a similar practice, something about not being at all covered by paypal because the item was collected by a third party rather than the seller shipping it himself?
iirc, someone was scammed here a couple of years ago by a similar practice, something about not being at all covered by paypal because the item was collected by a third party rather than the seller shipping it himself?
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a bit of advice please., by savannahsam on Feb 28, 2017 15:10:46 GMT 1, Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do.
PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul!
Good Luck OP
'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints.
Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. Big misconception here with this! PayPal in certain instances will refund gift payments depending on the situation. Then if he uses his American Express to send the payment then you're screwed. American Express will always side with their clients! Another fact to mention is that I've never paid an Import duty on any Art Item entering the US except when I bought the first OS Gemeos print from 99 prints. (The Other Side) PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul! Good Luck OP 'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints. |
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a bit of advice please., by ohfranklinoh on Feb 28, 2017 16:26:46 GMT 1, I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k
I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k
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balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 17:39:55 GMT 1, I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k
I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k Nope, it said the value was $2000, insurance it said zero. |
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a bit of advice please., by Fake on Feb 28, 2017 17:48:34 GMT 1, This sounds like a very high risk transaction. If you want to be sure refund him and ask him to pay with a gift payment.
This sounds like a very high risk transaction. If you want to be sure refund him and ask him to pay with a gift payment.
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a bit of advice please., by ohfranklinoh on Feb 28, 2017 18:00:48 GMT 1, thanks man seeing as i have bought two items from you with no problem
thanks man seeing as i have bought two items from you with no problem
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a bit of advice please., by ohfranklinoh on Feb 28, 2017 18:02:16 GMT 1, I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k Nope, it said the value was $2000, insurance it said zerHey Bob, check your email bob i sent a new label if you would feel better with a gift then i can send it that way as well not sure why people think some one would run a scam for 400 GBP
I'm sorry I have picked a lot of stuff up here on UAA and have had no problems I ship merch for bands for a living and it's a preset on FedEx as I had one of my employees build it and I can change it in two seconds sorry about that problem I also think if you look at the first label I made before you changed the tube it said the insurance value was 2k Nope, it said the value was $2000, insurance it said zerHey Bob, check your email bob i sent a new label if you would feel better with a gift then i can send it that way as well not sure why people think some one would run a scam for 400 GBP |
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a bit of advice please., by ohfranklinoh on Feb 28, 2017 18:04:45 GMT 1, This sounds like a very high risk transaction. If you want to be sure refund him and ask him to pay with a gift payment.
This sounds like a very high risk transaction. If you want to be sure refund him and ask him to pay with a gift payment. thanks man seeing as i have bought two items from you with no problem |
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balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 18:08:48 GMT 1, Nope, it said the value was $2000, insurance it said zerHey Bob, check your email bob i sent a new label if you would feel better with a gift then i can send it that way as well not sure why people think some one would run a scam for 400 GBP I really have no idea why we are discussing this on here as we are communicating by email. I have never intimated in any way that I thought I was getting scammed, purely asking the forum for some advice as another member had a bad experience when his item was shipped with no insurance.
Just in case you aren't following the emails mate, the insurance figure is still zero.
Nope, it said the value was $2000, insurance it said zerHey Bob, check your email bob i sent a new label if you would feel better with a gift then i can send it that way as well not sure why people think some one would run a scam for 400 GBP I really have no idea why we are discussing this on here as we are communicating by email. I have never intimated in any way that I thought I was getting scammed, purely asking the forum for some advice as another member had a bad experience when his item was shipped with no insurance.
Just in case you aren't following the emails mate, the insurance figure is still zero.
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a bit of advice please., by ohfranklinoh on Feb 28, 2017 18:15:59 GMT 1, I really have no idea why we are discussing this on here as we are communicating by email. I have never intimated in any way that I thought I was getting scammed, purely asking the forum for some advice as another member had a bad experience when his item was shipped with no insurance.
Just in case you aren't following the emails mate, the insurance figure is still zero.
good point your right sorry i was starting to feel attacked i will email you
I really have no idea why we are discussing this on here as we are communicating by email. I have never intimated in any way that I thought I was getting scammed, purely asking the forum for some advice as another member had a bad experience when his item was shipped with no insurance.
Just in case you aren't following the emails mate, the insurance figure is still zero.
good point your right sorry i was starting to feel attacked i will email you |
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a bit of advice please., by Howard Johnson on Feb 28, 2017 18:24:46 GMT 1, ohfranklinoh is a solid new member, and I can guarantee you he wasn't trying to pull some scam. I've sold and bought from Noah on multiple occasions, and shared a beer or two with the guy as well. Hes in the rock n roll business and uses his company to buy art to duck the tax man (kidding, but not really). The dudes 100%, and I bet it was a simple misunderstanding.
ohfranklinoh is a solid new member, and I can guarantee you he wasn't trying to pull some scam. I've sold and bought from Noah on multiple occasions, and shared a beer or two with the guy as well. Hes in the rock n roll business and uses his company to buy art to duck the tax man (kidding, but not really). The dudes 100%, and I bet it was a simple misunderstanding.
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balibob
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a bit of advice please., by balibob on Feb 28, 2017 18:44:15 GMT 1, As I've said, I never said anything about a scam, never publically identified the buyer apart from being American and had already emailed Noah that I had received a private message from a guy who obviously has incredible clairvoyant powers who had dealt with Noah before and had vouched for him. A bit hacked off now, going for a beer.
As I've said, I never said anything about a scam, never publically identified the buyer apart from being American and had already emailed Noah that I had received a private message from a guy who obviously has incredible clairvoyant powers who had dealt with Noah before and had vouched for him. A bit hacked off now, going for a beer.
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a bit of advice please., by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2017 19:01:05 GMT 1, I don't think it's about scamming, just making sure both people are covered.
It's all fun and games until the print is damaged, then the claims get made 
I don't think it's about scamming, just making sure both people are covered. It's all fun and games until the print is damaged, then the claims get made |
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a bit of advice please., by Sliding on the Walls on Feb 28, 2017 20:27:33 GMT 1, Nobody wants this
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to happen but it sometimes does so best to iron these things out beforehand, then it's both parties vs the courier instead of one unfortunate person being on the receiving end!!
Nobody wants this | | | \ / to happen but it sometimes does so best to iron these things out beforehand, then it's both parties vs the courier instead of one unfortunate person being on the receiving end!! |
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a bit of advice please., by Wrinkled Brain on Feb 28, 2017 21:11:59 GMT 1, Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. Big misconception here with this! PayPal in certain instances will refund gift payments depending on the situation. Then if he uses his American Express to send the payment then you're screwed. American Express will always side with their clients! Another fact to mention is that I've never paid an Import duty on any Art Item entering the US except when I bought the first OS Gemeos print from 99 prints. (The Other Side) PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul! Good Luck OP 'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints.
Struck Contemporary, I just purchased a print from a gallery in Canada and they've asked if I want the print declared at its full value or if I prefer having it declared as a $200 print? As a USA resident would I incur an import duty tax?
Ask for for payment as gift, then all risk on buyer. He's just trying to lower his import cost which everyone wants to do. Big misconception here with this! PayPal in certain instances will refund gift payments depending on the situation. Then if he uses his American Express to send the payment then you're screwed. American Express will always side with their clients! Another fact to mention is that I've never paid an Import duty on any Art Item entering the US except when I bought the first OS Gemeos print from 99 prints. (The Other Side) PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul! Good Luck OP 'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints. Struck Contemporary, I just purchased a print from a gallery in Canada and they've asked if I want the print declared at its full value or if I prefer having it declared as a $200 print? As a USA resident would I incur an import duty tax? |
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a bit of advice please., by Morfx on Feb 28, 2017 22:59:26 GMT 1, Big misconception here with this! PayPal in certain instances will refund gift payments depending on the situation. Then if he uses his American Express to send the payment then you're screwed. American Express will always side with their clients! Another fact to mention is that I've never paid an Import duty on any Art Item entering the US except when I bought the first OS Gemeos print from 99 prints. (The Other Side) PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul! Good Luck OP 'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints. Struck Contemporary, I just purchased a print from a gallery in Canada and they've asked if I want the print declared at its full value or if I prefer having it declared as a $200 print? As a USA resident would I incur an import duty tax?
It's their call, they are taking the risk... I am/will always be legit as then you are covered... Don't cut corners to save a few quid.. It will bite you on the ass....
Big misconception here with this! PayPal in certain instances will refund gift payments depending on the situation. Then if he uses his American Express to send the payment then you're screwed. American Express will always side with their clients! Another fact to mention is that I've never paid an Import duty on any Art Item entering the US except when I bought the first OS Gemeos print from 99 prints. (The Other Side) PS: Everyone here should take a moment and read the new PayPal User agreement! Beneficial for mind, body and soul! Good Luck OP 'Twas burnt on two occasions because of this! They weren't big buys but still stung in the end and I had to take a complete loss on both prints. Struck Contemporary, I just purchased a print from a gallery in Canada and they've asked if I want the print declared at its full value or if I prefer having it declared as a $200 print? As a USA resident would I incur an import duty tax? It's their call, they are taking the risk... I am/will always be legit as then you are covered... Don't cut corners to save a few quid.. It will bite you on the ass.... |
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