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Why so much hate, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 10:18:22 GMT 1, I have been a member on here for over 4 years and have always enjoyed the various post's, the wealth of information and the vast knowledge that other members have.
It seems though that this year in particular people are really bitching at one another, being out right rude to other members and basically just not being nice? And it seems that no one is regulating this? Am I wrong in thinking that the moderators on here used to be a lot more pro active in stopping this type of behaviour? Let's leave the trolling to the other social media outlets.
I think we should also be a bit more appreciative of Daniel Silk who gave us this great forum and I would imagine that it is not an easy job running this place
Hate begets hate guy's, there's enough bad people and shi#e going on in the world, let's just enjoy our art, we are ahead of the curve as far as I am concerned with art and we should keep our little club a nice exclusive place for all.
I think we should all try a little harder to be nicer to each other.
I have been a member on here for over 4 years and have always enjoyed the various post's, the wealth of information and the vast knowledge that other members have. It seems though that this year in particular people are really bitching at one another, being out right rude to other members and basically just not being nice? And it seems that no one is regulating this? Am I wrong in thinking that the moderators on here used to be a lot more pro active in stopping this type of behaviour? Let's leave the trolling to the other social media outlets. I think we should also be a bit more appreciative of Daniel Silk who gave us this great forum and I would imagine that it is not an easy job running this place Hate begets hate guy's, there's enough bad people and shi#e going on in the world, let's just enjoy our art, we are ahead of the curve as far as I am concerned with art and we should keep our little club a nice exclusive place for all. I think we should all try a little harder to be nicer to each other.
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Why so much hate, by sixftjellybaby on Sept 4, 2017 10:42:53 GMT 1, I have been a member on here for over 4 years and have always enjoyed the various post's, the wealth of information and the vast knowledge that other members have. It seems though that this year in particular people are really bitching at one another, being out right rude to other members and basically just not being nice? And it seems that no one is regulating this? Am I wrong in thinking that the moderators on here used to be a lot more pro active in stopping this type of behaviour? Let's leave the trolling to the other social media outlets. I think we should also be a bit more appreciative of Daniel Silk who gave us this great forum and I would imagine that it is not an easy job running this place Hate begets hate guy's, there's enough bad people and shi#e going on in the world, let's just enjoy our art, we are ahead of the curve as far as I am concerned with art and we should keep our little club a nice exclusive place for all. I think we should all try a little harder to be nicer to each other. really well said, couldn't agree more
I have been a member on here for over 4 years and have always enjoyed the various post's, the wealth of information and the vast knowledge that other members have. It seems though that this year in particular people are really bitching at one another, being out right rude to other members and basically just not being nice? And it seems that no one is regulating this? Am I wrong in thinking that the moderators on here used to be a lot more pro active in stopping this type of behaviour? Let's leave the trolling to the other social media outlets. I think we should also be a bit more appreciative of Daniel Silk who gave us this great forum and I would imagine that it is not an easy job running this place Hate begets hate guy's, there's enough bad people and shi#e going on in the world, let's just enjoy our art, we are ahead of the curve as far as I am concerned with art and we should keep our little club a nice exclusive place for all. I think we should all try a little harder to be nicer to each other. really well said, couldn't agree more
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Why so much hate, by Coach on Sept 4, 2017 11:30:43 GMT 1, Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve.
Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve.
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Why so much hate, by phischa on Sept 4, 2017 12:02:05 GMT 1, I've the feeling that the forum guardians are not as active as they used to be. A forum is always self-adjusting in a certain way but there should be a framework - set by forum guardians - in which conversations are made. Moderating and monitoring the threads. This is a great forum with lots of great people, some should think about the tone and how they behave though.
I've the feeling that the forum guardians are not as active as they used to be. A forum is always self-adjusting in a certain way but there should be a framework - set by forum guardians - in which conversations are made. Moderating and monitoring the threads. This is a great forum with lots of great people, some should think about the tone and how they behave though.
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chads007
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Why so much hate, by chads007 on Sept 4, 2017 12:08:57 GMT 1, I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help.
I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help.
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Why so much hate, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 12:11:48 GMT 1, Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve. Your dead right Coach and I think met really nailed it.
Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve. Your dead right Coach and I think met really nailed it.
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Dive Jedi
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Why so much hate, by Dive Jedi on Sept 4, 2017 12:35:43 GMT 1, I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help. Really ??
Again?
Here ?
In this thread ?
I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help. Really ?? Again? Here ? In this thread ?
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kobina
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Why so much hate, by kobina on Sept 4, 2017 12:39:55 GMT 1, I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help. Really ?? Again? Here ? In this thread ? why the hate so much chads007? and would you like to kiss and make up?
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/146944/bridget-riley-blaze-screen-poster?page=2#ixzz4ri36pDtt
I think self regulation is best, but trolls who have multiple accounts, flip every release, derail threads, need regulation by guardians. Unfortunately, none have been very active/come forward to take a stand when needed. Was there a 50 post rule or did that stop? Check the recent sale thread...a one post member who joined around the same time as *cough* selling the same item, same style of writing, no price/pictures...I think things like that don't help. Really ?? Again? Here ? In this thread ? why the hate so much chads007? and would you like to kiss and make up? Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/146944/bridget-riley-blaze-screen-poster?page=2#ixzz4ri36pDtt
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ferg
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Why so much hate, by ferg on Sept 4, 2017 12:47:22 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective
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sugar72
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Why so much hate, by sugar72 on Sept 4, 2017 12:47:48 GMT 1, chads & kobina take it outside please?
chads & kobina take it outside please?
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Dive Jedi
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Why so much hate, by Dive Jedi on Sept 4, 2017 12:50:37 GMT 1, chads & kobina take it outside please? Not sure to call it sad, ironic or amazing (probably all of the above) that these 2 do not see this thread is partly about them.....
chads & kobina take it outside please? Not sure to call it sad, ironic or amazing (probably all of the above) that these 2 do not see this thread is partly about them.....
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yobaby
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Why so much hate, by yobaby on Sept 4, 2017 12:54:30 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Ferg, horrible news. I wish you and yours all the best.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Ferg, horrible news. I wish you and yours all the best.
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kobina
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Why so much hate, by kobina on Sept 4, 2017 12:56:22 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective ferg, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she gets well soon and life is very short.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective ferg, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she gets well soon and life is very short.
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Why so much hate, by Coach on Sept 4, 2017 13:12:51 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective
So sorry to here this, my friend. My thoughts are with you and your family x
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective So sorry to here this, my friend. My thoughts are with you and your family x
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Why so much hate, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 13:30:04 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective When something like this happens it does put things into perspective, Try to keep positive ferg my Dad was diagnosed with a very aggressive bowel cancer this year, it's about six weeks now since he had his op and he is doing great. They managed to remove the cancer and luckily it hadn't spread anywhere else. The initial diagnosis was really not good and it looked as though I was going to loose my Pa, infact we were all prepared for it. BUT we all kept strong and positive which is so important and thank the Lord he's still here. Big lifestyle change for him which he wouldn't want me to go into detail about but basically the point I am trying to make is "It can be beat and your Sister will beat it".
My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and most importantly your Sister.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective When something like this happens it does put things into perspective, Try to keep positive ferg my Dad was diagnosed with a very aggressive bowel cancer this year, it's about six weeks now since he had his op and he is doing great. They managed to remove the cancer and luckily it hadn't spread anywhere else. The initial diagnosis was really not good and it looked as though I was going to loose my Pa, infact we were all prepared for it. BUT we all kept strong and positive which is so important and thank the Lord he's still here. Big lifestyle change for him which he wouldn't want me to go into detail about but basically the point I am trying to make is "It can be beat and your Sister will beat it". My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and most importantly your Sister.
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kobina
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Why so much hate, by kobina on Sept 4, 2017 13:39:27 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective When something like this happens it does put things into perspective, Try to keep positive ferg my Dad was diagnosed with a very aggressive bowel cancer this year, it's about six weeks now since he had his op and he is doing great. They managed to remove the cancer and luckily it hadn't spread anywhere else. The initial diagnosis was really not good and it looked as though I was going to loose my Pa, infact we were all prepared for it. BUT we all kept strong and positive which is so important and thank the Lord he's still here. Big lifestyle change for him which he wouldn't want me to go into detail about but basically the point I am trying to make is "It can be beat and your Sister will beat it". My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and most importantly your Sister. cliff your right, ferg keep postive. I'm sure she will be okay and spend as much quality time with your loved ones.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective When something like this happens it does put things into perspective, Try to keep positive ferg my Dad was diagnosed with a very aggressive bowel cancer this year, it's about six weeks now since he had his op and he is doing great. They managed to remove the cancer and luckily it hadn't spread anywhere else. The initial diagnosis was really not good and it looked as though I was going to loose my Pa, infact we were all prepared for it. BUT we all kept strong and positive which is so important and thank the Lord he's still here. Big lifestyle change for him which he wouldn't want me to go into detail about but basically the point I am trying to make is "It can be beat and your Sister will beat it". My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and most importantly your Sister. cliff your right, ferg keep postive. I'm sure she will be okay and spend as much quality time with your loved ones.
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Why so much hate, by Harveyn on Sept 4, 2017 13:45:19 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Mate so sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you and your family. You know how to get hold of me should you need anything.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Mate so sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you and your family. You know how to get hold of me should you need anything.
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Why so much hate, by turntored on Sept 4, 2017 14:20:33 GMT 1, Well said @cjp
I was on the forum for quite a few years under another name and decided to step back and cancelled my account last year. My daughter has suffered from depression for a couple of years and it has been hard to keep all of our heads above water at times.
I used to come on here for a little bit of respite but found myself the subject of some nasty messages from another member (who seems to have disappeared) and, in my view, the forum also became a more aggressive place and it wasn't for me.
I joined up again at the beginning of the year under my new name but don't comment or get involved too much any more. It's a shame but maybe we can get this place going back in the right direction again.
There is more to life than this forum but that doesn't mean we can't make it a more enjoyable experience when we get the chance to get away from it all for a little while.
Well said @cjp
I was on the forum for quite a few years under another name and decided to step back and cancelled my account last year. My daughter has suffered from depression for a couple of years and it has been hard to keep all of our heads above water at times.
I used to come on here for a little bit of respite but found myself the subject of some nasty messages from another member (who seems to have disappeared) and, in my view, the forum also became a more aggressive place and it wasn't for me.
I joined up again at the beginning of the year under my new name but don't comment or get involved too much any more. It's a shame but maybe we can get this place going back in the right direction again.
There is more to life than this forum but that doesn't mean we can't make it a more enjoyable experience when we get the chance to get away from it all for a little while.
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Why so much hate, by andyroo0312 on Sept 4, 2017 14:43:57 GMT 1, Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Really sorry to hear that mate. I really wish your sister a positive outcome. Life is way to short and everyday is a blessing.
Yeah life's too short my sisters is a year younger than me and has just been diagnosed with Level 4 colon cancer and has 10 % chance of living 5 years to put things into perspective Really sorry to hear that mate. I really wish your sister a positive outcome. Life is way to short and everyday is a blessing.
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Why so much hate, by met on Sept 4, 2017 14:48:14 GMT 1, Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve.
Although it's repetitive, I'll rephrase my argument for further emphasis.
Before putting something down in writing, I try to imagine the responses of people I know โ as if they're sitting right beside me, reading along while I type.
In such a scenario, would my chin be held up high? Or would my head be lowered and turned away to avoid eye contact?
I ask myself what respected colleagues and peers would say, both to me and to each other, if they could see my posts. What my elders or bosses might think. What the family members who've made sacrifices for me would be thinking.
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To illustrate, I refer to the same thread previously commented on (although plenty of other examples could also be used).
If I were one of the main protagonists in that thread, what would be the reaction of those close to me? Something along the lines of Option 1 below, expressed without sarcasm? Or would Option 2 be more likely?
1. "Well done, you showed him! That stranger on the internet got what he had coming. Good on you."
2. "What the fuck are you doing? You were given the precious gift of life. You have a very restricted window in which to make the most of that one life. To achieve everything you're capable of achieving. So that during your winter years you're able to look back with genuine pride, knowing you did your best, both for yourself and for others.
And yet this โ writing these unceasing, wretched posts โ carrying out a scorched-earth policy with your own reputation โ is how you choose to spend your energy and time?
You really need to wake up. There is no glory in spiteful Pyrrhic victories."
Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve. Although it's repetitive, I'll rephrase my argument for further emphasis. Before putting something down in writing, I try to imagine the responses of people I know โ as if they're sitting right beside me, reading along while I type. In such a scenario, would my chin be held up high? Or would my head be lowered and turned away to avoid eye contact? I ask myself what respected colleagues and peers would say, both to me and to each other, if they could see my posts. What my elders or bosses might think. What the family members who've made sacrifices for me would be thinking. _____________ To illustrate, I refer to the same thread previously commented on (although plenty of other examples could also be used). If I were one of the main protagonists in that thread, what would be the reaction of those close to me? Something along the lines of Option 1 below, expressed without sarcasm? Or would Option 2 be more likely? 1. "Well done, you showed him! That stranger on the internet got what he had coming. Good on you."2. "What the fuck are you doing? You were given the precious gift of life. You have a very restricted window in which to make the most of that one life. To achieve everything you're capable of achieving. So that during your winter years you're able to look back with genuine pride, knowing you did your best, both for yourself and for others.
And yet this โ writing these unceasing, wretched posts โ carrying out a scorched-earth policy with your own reputation โ is how you choose to spend your energy and time?
You really need to wake up. There is no glory in spiteful Pyrrhic victories."
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ferg
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Why so much hate, by ferg on Sept 4, 2017 14:59:35 GMT 1, Thanks you for all the kind words l only said it to stop these 2 guys having a pop at one another the forum should be about sharing wisdom and helping others not how can I make a fast buck. I just had my 1000th post and during that time I've learnt so much from you lot about urban/street art and that's what it's all about.
Thanks you for all the kind words l only said it to stop these 2 guys having a pop at one another the forum should be about sharing wisdom and helping others not how can I make a fast buck. I just had my 1000th post and during that time I've learnt so much from you lot about urban/street art and that's what it's all about.
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kobina
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Why so much hate, by kobina on Sept 4, 2017 15:23:45 GMT 1, Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve. Although it's repetitive, I'll rephrase my argument for further emphasis. Before putting something down in writing, I try to imagine the responses of people I know โ as if they're sitting right beside me, reading along while I type. In such a scenario, would my chin be held up high? Or would my head be lowered and turned away to avoid eye contact? I ask myself what respected colleagues and peers would say, both to me and to each other, if they could see my posts. What my elders or bosses might think. What the family members who've made sacrifices for me would be thinking. _____________ To illustrate, I refer to the same thread previously commented on (although plenty of other examples could also be used). If I were one of the main protagonists in that thread, what would be the reaction of those close to me? Something along the lines of Option 1 below, expressed without sarcasm? Or would Option 2 be more likely? 1. "Well done, you showed him! That stranger on the internet got what he had coming. Good on you."2. "What the fuck are you doing? You were given the precious gift of life. You have a very restricted window in which to make the most of that one life. To achieve everything you're capable of achieving. So that during your winter years you're able to look back with genuine pride, knowing you did your best, both for yourself and for others.
And yet this โ writing these unceasing, wretched posts โ carrying out a scorched-earth policy with your own reputation โ is how you choose to spend your energy and time?
You really need to wake up. There is no glory in spiteful Pyrrhic victories." Thank you met, I have taken everything on aboard. I don't have no problem with chads007 and his mates. Certain individuals people like to gang up on other certain individuals. I'm happy to kiss and make up too.
Hello cliff. I have over recent weeks thought about saying something similar. I agree that it does appear that oftentimes the forum is lacking in a little common courtesy at the moment, and that disturbs me. I decided against it. But I'm glad you have. Of course the common answer is "I can say what I want!". And that is completely correct. There should be freedom of speech on the forum. Which is why we all have to self regulate, and accept criticism when we are out of line. met made a pertinent comment recently. Bearing in mind that this is a public forum, it's a good idea so ask oneself whether one would be happy with one's family, friends and colleagues reading the post. Politeness and common courtesy, especially with people one does not agree with, goes a long way in my book. Hopefully the tone of the forum wil improve. Although it's repetitive, I'll rephrase my argument for further emphasis. Before putting something down in writing, I try to imagine the responses of people I know โ as if they're sitting right beside me, reading along while I type. In such a scenario, would my chin be held up high? Or would my head be lowered and turned away to avoid eye contact? I ask myself what respected colleagues and peers would say, both to me and to each other, if they could see my posts. What my elders or bosses might think. What the family members who've made sacrifices for me would be thinking. _____________ To illustrate, I refer to the same thread previously commented on (although plenty of other examples could also be used). If I were one of the main protagonists in that thread, what would be the reaction of those close to me? Something along the lines of Option 1 below, expressed without sarcasm? Or would Option 2 be more likely? 1. "Well done, you showed him! That stranger on the internet got what he had coming. Good on you."2. "What the fuck are you doing? You were given the precious gift of life. You have a very restricted window in which to make the most of that one life. To achieve everything you're capable of achieving. So that during your winter years you're able to look back with genuine pride, knowing you did your best, both for yourself and for others.
And yet this โ writing these unceasing, wretched posts โ carrying out a scorched-earth policy with your own reputation โ is how you choose to spend your energy and time?
You really need to wake up. There is no glory in spiteful Pyrrhic victories."Thank you met, I have taken everything on aboard. I don't have no problem with chads007 and his mates. Certain individuals people like to gang up on other certain individuals. I'm happy to kiss and make up too.
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caruso
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Why so much hate, by caruso on Sept 4, 2017 15:39:32 GMT 1, I'm not familiar with the hate referred to by the thread creator, but having joined only recently I have already noticed some members seem to think very highly of themselves and their alleged degree of expertise. Keep in mind because someone has been posting here for x years doesn't mean all of a sudden a new member will not have valuable knowledge and information to contribute to this community. This being said, art is by essence controversial, so expect a certain level of disagreements and different points of view. The moderators' job is not to police and censor every exchange or post that doesn't go your way. My point of view, feel free to disagree, I'm old enough to take it and not reach out to the moderators for comfort. We're all grown ups here.
I'm not familiar with the hate referred to by the thread creator, but having joined only recently I have already noticed some members seem to think very highly of themselves and their alleged degree of expertise. Keep in mind because someone has been posting here for x years doesn't mean all of a sudden a new member will not have valuable knowledge and information to contribute to this community. This being said, art is by essence controversial, so expect a certain level of disagreements and different points of view. The moderators' job is not to police and censor every exchange or post that doesn't go your way. My point of view, feel free to disagree, I'm old enough to take it and not reach out to the moderators for comfort. We're all grown ups here.
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nobokov
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Why so much hate, by nobokov on Sept 4, 2017 15:47:09 GMT 1, I think what this forum desperately misses are missing members who brought honesty and hilairty like Vulva and Dr Plip....without members like that, the place just becomes a battleground between flippers and antiflippers.
I think what this forum desperately misses are missing members who brought honesty and hilairty like Vulva and Dr Plip....without members like that, the place just becomes a battleground between flippers and antiflippers.
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rosac
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Why so much hate, by rosac on Sept 4, 2017 15:52:01 GMT 1, ive always thought for the internet this is quite a friendly place.
ive always thought for the internet this is quite a friendly place.
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Why so much hate, by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 15:54:02 GMT 1, I think what this forum desperately misses are missing members who brought honesty and hilairty like Vulva and Dr Plip....without members like that, the place just becomes a battleground between flippers and antiflippers. Not Vulva, definitely not Vulva......Dr Plip and Cornish Crayon although are missed
I think what this forum desperately misses are missing members who brought honesty and hilairty like Vulva and Dr Plip....without members like that, the place just becomes a battleground between flippers and antiflippers. Not Vulva, definitely not Vulva......Dr Plip and Cornish Crayon although are missed
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caruso
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Why so much hate, by caruso on Sept 4, 2017 16:06:34 GMT 1, ive always thought for the internet this is quite a friendly place. [b
I agree, try twitter if you want haters..
ive always thought for the internet this is quite a friendly place. [b I agree, try twitter if you want haters..
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Dibbs 45
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Why so much hate, by Dibbs 45 on Sept 4, 2017 16:35:45 GMT 1, Treat people as you expect to be treated yourself. I think Ferg, who is a decent bloke has highlighted the things that are most important. My heart goes out him and his family and I hope she makes a speedy recovery.
As an ex moderator (three or four active now as opposed to 13 before) I can say there was always a need for the forum to police itself. Everyone should be grown up enough to take Criticism and banter. However should members resort to racist slurs and offensive behaviour then it was nipped in the bud. Equally bullying should not be tolerated. New people should be welcomed as they add more to the pot of knowledge on here.
I think Dappy, Neil and Wear have a job on theirs hands at times.
Peace
Treat people as you expect to be treated yourself. I think Ferg, who is a decent bloke has highlighted the things that are most important. My heart goes out him and his family and I hope she makes a speedy recovery.
As an ex moderator (three or four active now as opposed to 13 before) I can say there was always a need for the forum to police itself. Everyone should be grown up enough to take Criticism and banter. However should members resort to racist slurs and offensive behaviour then it was nipped in the bud. Equally bullying should not be tolerated. New people should be welcomed as they add more to the pot of knowledge on here.
I think Dappy, Neil and Wear have a job on theirs hands at times.
Peace
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Why so much hate, by Coach on Sept 4, 2017 16:40:06 GMT 1, I'm not familiar with the hate referred to by the thread creator, but having joined only recently I have already noticed some members seem to think very highly of themselves and their alleged degree of expertise. Keep in mind because someone has been posting here for x years doesn't mean all of a sudden a new member will not have valuable knowledge and information to contribute to this community. This being said, art is by essence controversial, so expect a certain level of disagreements and different points of view. The moderators' job is not to police and censor every exchange or post that doesn't go your way. My point of view, feel free to disagree, I'm old enough to take it and not reach out to the moderators for comfort. We're all grown ups here.
I certainly agree that a new member's opinion is just as valuable as that of someone who has been here for years. I also agree that we should be able to self censor and self moderate. I also agree that differences of opinion are inevitable. In fact, they are to be welcomed. My concern recently has merely been regarding the tone of such disagreements. I only suggest that such disagreements could be communicated with an element of courtesy and politeness, for the sake of a convivial community.
I'm not familiar with the hate referred to by the thread creator, but having joined only recently I have already noticed some members seem to think very highly of themselves and their alleged degree of expertise. Keep in mind because someone has been posting here for x years doesn't mean all of a sudden a new member will not have valuable knowledge and information to contribute to this community. This being said, art is by essence controversial, so expect a certain level of disagreements and different points of view. The moderators' job is not to police and censor every exchange or post that doesn't go your way. My point of view, feel free to disagree, I'm old enough to take it and not reach out to the moderators for comfort. We're all grown ups here. I certainly agree that a new member's opinion is just as valuable as that of someone who has been here for years. I also agree that we should be able to self censor and self moderate. I also agree that differences of opinion are inevitable. In fact, they are to be welcomed. My concern recently has merely been regarding the tone of such disagreements. I only suggest that such disagreements could be communicated with an element of courtesy and politeness, for the sake of a convivial community.
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