saltandiron
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London Tonight, by saltandiron on Feb 22, 2007 10:24:52 GMT 1, Was in London last night and saw in a copy of one of the free sheets and interview with Hugo Martinez. He has a book out called 'Graffiti NYC' and is doing a promo sort of thing tonight details are
Freedom Press Angel Alley 84b Whitechapel High Street London E1 7-9pm. First 100 visitors will receive a free can of spray paint labelled qith your rights asa graffiti artist.
I'm not in London tonight so I wont be there but thought some people on here might be interested.
Martinez seems to have been influential in the 70s NYC graffiti scene. Not too sure on the details. anyway, its there if you want it.
Was in London last night and saw in a copy of one of the free sheets and interview with Hugo Martinez. He has a book out called 'Graffiti NYC' and is doing a promo sort of thing tonight details are
Freedom Press Angel Alley 84b Whitechapel High Street London E1 7-9pm. First 100 visitors will receive a free can of spray paint labelled qith your rights asa graffiti artist.
I'm not in London tonight so I wont be there but thought some people on here might be interested.
Martinez seems to have been influential in the 70s NYC graffiti scene. Not too sure on the details. anyway, its there if you want it.
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frank11
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London Tonight, by frank11 on Feb 22, 2007 10:59:26 GMT 1, Sounds cool, hopefully be able to make it down! Cheers for posting
Sounds cool, hopefully be able to make it down! Cheers for posting
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London Tonight, by mcnuts on Feb 22, 2007 11:06:34 GMT 1, Ok, so the link wont work. It too read it in the freebie "London Paper" you can find it if you do a search on their website. Otherwise here is the text:
Writing is on the wall by Hugh Reilly. Wednesday, February 21 2007
Graffiti NYC book signing with author Hugo Martinez, Freedom Press, Angel Alley, 84b Whitechapel High Street, London E1, 22 February, 7pm-9pm, free. The first 100 visitors will receive a free can of spray paint labelled with โyour rights as a graffiti artistโ.
Pay attention to the squiggle on the seat opposite you on your commute home tonight. According to Hugo Martinez, who has been at the forefront of the modern graffiti movement since its birth in New York in the 70s, it may not be what it seems.
โGraffiti in the UK doesnโt exist,โ affirms Martinez โ TfL might have something to say about that, not to mention those artists who risk their lives tagging on the Underground. โThereโs no unique styles, itโs empty, thereโs no soul. They [the graffiti artists] havenโt got that ยญobsession, the passion.โ
If Martinez sounds incredibly superior, thatโs because he is. He excuses himself at the end of our interview with a โthanks for dealing with the New York arrogant crapโ.
But, if thereโs one figure qualified to speak on modern graffiti, itโs him. In 1972, while studying in Manhattan, Martinez discovered Puerto Rican gang members spray-painting subway cars. By the following year he had organised the creative local vandals into a loose collective called the United Graffiti Artists.
He says: โWhat drew me to it was the fact that there were Puerto Rican kids mixing with Irish kids and Italian kids. Iโd never seen a movement ยญtranscend an ethic group.โ
Since then, Martinez, now in his 50s, has opened galleries in several New York ยญboroughs, showcasing graffiti from local artists.
Impresario he may be, but Martinez is a million miles from his more entrepreneurial cousins in the traditional arts world. His Martinez Gallery isnโt strictly a gallery. Rather, itโs a project which sees him and a team of graffiti artists take over and decorate โnomadic venuesโ such as disused schools.
โThe work I show always maintains a kind of criminalityยญ, it always comes from that side of the cage. It is about appropriating private property. You donโt do that by getting the landlordโs ยญpermission, you do it by stealing,โ explains Martinez.
But thereโs nothing illegal about his book Graffiti NYC, which chronicles contemporaryยญ urban graffiti in its original habitat. Heโs currently in London promoting it. If youโre a graffiti enthusiast, itโs a chance to meet a real expert of the genre.
Ok, so the link wont work. It too read it in the freebie "London Paper" you can find it if you do a search on their website. Otherwise here is the text:
Writing is on the wall by Hugh Reilly. Wednesday, February 21 2007
Graffiti NYC book signing with author Hugo Martinez, Freedom Press, Angel Alley, 84b Whitechapel High Street, London E1, 22 February, 7pm-9pm, free. The first 100 visitors will receive a free can of spray paint labelled with โyour rights as a graffiti artistโ.
Pay attention to the squiggle on the seat opposite you on your commute home tonight. According to Hugo Martinez, who has been at the forefront of the modern graffiti movement since its birth in New York in the 70s, it may not be what it seems.
โGraffiti in the UK doesnโt exist,โ affirms Martinez โ TfL might have something to say about that, not to mention those artists who risk their lives tagging on the Underground. โThereโs no unique styles, itโs empty, thereโs no soul. They [the graffiti artists] havenโt got that ยญobsession, the passion.โ
If Martinez sounds incredibly superior, thatโs because he is. He excuses himself at the end of our interview with a โthanks for dealing with the New York arrogant crapโ.
But, if thereโs one figure qualified to speak on modern graffiti, itโs him. In 1972, while studying in Manhattan, Martinez discovered Puerto Rican gang members spray-painting subway cars. By the following year he had organised the creative local vandals into a loose collective called the United Graffiti Artists.
He says: โWhat drew me to it was the fact that there were Puerto Rican kids mixing with Irish kids and Italian kids. Iโd never seen a movement ยญtranscend an ethic group.โ
Since then, Martinez, now in his 50s, has opened galleries in several New York ยญboroughs, showcasing graffiti from local artists.
Impresario he may be, but Martinez is a million miles from his more entrepreneurial cousins in the traditional arts world. His Martinez Gallery isnโt strictly a gallery. Rather, itโs a project which sees him and a team of graffiti artists take over and decorate โnomadic venuesโ such as disused schools.
โThe work I show always maintains a kind of criminalityยญ, it always comes from that side of the cage. It is about appropriating private property. You donโt do that by getting the landlordโs ยญpermission, you do it by stealing,โ explains Martinez.
But thereโs nothing illegal about his book Graffiti NYC, which chronicles contemporaryยญ urban graffiti in its original habitat. Heโs currently in London promoting it. If youโre a graffiti enthusiast, itโs a chance to meet a real expert of the genre.
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frank11
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Cheers for that, link does not seem to be working tho
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frank11
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London Tonight, by frank11 on Feb 22, 2007 11:11:20 GMT 1, Thank you
Thank you
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London Tonight, by slowmo on Feb 22, 2007 11:22:14 GMT 1, Gotta say that Martinez is very arrogant, Graffiti in the UK does not exist!!! Read that last night on the tube and it made my blood boil
Gotta say that Martinez is very arrogant, Graffiti in the UK does not exist!!! Read that last night on the tube and it made my blood boil
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saltandiron
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London Tonight, by saltandiron on Feb 22, 2007 11:49:45 GMT 1,
Thought that was quite an interesting interview. The guy's got an opinion and isn't afraid to express it, which isn't a bad thing.
Thought that was quite an interesting interview. The guy's got an opinion and isn't afraid to express it, which isn't a bad thing.
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London Tonight, by monochrome on Feb 22, 2007 12:15:55 GMT 1, i loved the line about people liking Banksy probably know nothing about art.... yeah maybe, but they know how to turn a good profit on ebay. now fuck off back to america!
i loved the line about people liking Banksy probably know nothing about art.... yeah maybe, but they know how to turn a good profit on ebay. now fuck off back to america!
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London Tonight, by slowmo on Feb 22, 2007 13:05:15 GMT 1, The more I read by this bloke the more pompous and self officiating he becomes. Really comes across as one of those old music magazine hacks who was first on the real scene and how everything else since is not as cool as the scene I helped to found.
Poor interviewer, really should have stuck it to the man, challenged his belief systems.
The more I read by this bloke the more pompous and self officiating he becomes. Really comes across as one of those old music magazine hacks who was first on the real scene and how everything else since is not as cool as the scene I helped to found.
Poor interviewer, really should have stuck it to the man, challenged his belief systems.
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ogrgel
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London Tonight, by ogrgel on Feb 22, 2007 13:22:05 GMT 1, The more I read by this bloke the more pompous and self officiating he becomes. Really comes across as one of those old music magazine hacks who was first on the real scene and how everything else since is not as cool as the scene I helped to found. Poor interviewer, really should have stuck it to the man, challenged his belief systems.
there are few members at this board that sound exactly like him
The more I read by this bloke the more pompous and self officiating he becomes. Really comes across as one of those old music magazine hacks who was first on the real scene and how everything else since is not as cool as the scene I helped to found. Poor interviewer, really should have stuck it to the man, challenged his belief systems. there are few members at this board that sound exactly like him
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romanywg
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London Tonight, by romanywg on Feb 22, 2007 13:26:16 GMT 1, I remember graffiti in the 70's in the UK. There was one guy who wrote 'Cats like plain crisps' all over Richmond. I was there at the very start so as monochrome says so poignantly F**k off back to NY!
I remember graffiti in the 70's in the UK. There was one guy who wrote 'Cats like plain crisps' all over Richmond. I was there at the very start so as monochrome says so poignantly F**k off back to NY!
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London Tonight, by corblimeylimey on Feb 22, 2007 14:49:48 GMT 1, What a wanker.
"Banksy?", we naively suggest, and immediately regret it. "Serious graff writers would find him โcornyโ. Itโs all too cleverโฆno passion. Thatโs not art. And people who do like corny stuff usually donโt know anything about art."
What a wanker.
"Banksy?", we naively suggest, and immediately regret it. "Serious graff writers would find him โcornyโ. Itโs all too cleverโฆno passion. Thatโs not art. And people who do like corny stuff usually donโt know anything about art."
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London Tonight, by numusic on Feb 22, 2007 16:45:37 GMT 1, I remember graffiti in the 70's in the UK. There was one guy who wrote 'Cats like plain crisps' all over Richmond. I was there at the very start so as monochrome says so poignantly F**k off back to NY!
I got arrested in 1979 for being drunk and disorderly and criminal damage, staggering home drunk after my first couple of pints, found a big bucket of gloss paint outside the DHSS office, (unemployment office for those in the USA).. and for want of a brush, we proceeded to stick our hands in the tin, scooping out handfulls of paint, with our bare hands, we wrote "C*nts" across the facade of the building in metre high letters, as well as several dozen beautifully rendered handprints ;D.. I'll never forget the vision of my good friend Rich (R.I.P) trying (unsuccessfully) to escape from the police by crawling as quickly as he could through the tipped over bucket of paint and down the road with the copper legging it after him. There were little white handprints down the highstreet for years afterwards. We got a right slapping in the cell for seriously messing up the interior of the police car and ended up in court number 2 at Leeds Juvenile court where we were sentenced to 40 hours of community service, cleaning up an old graveyard.
We were 13 years old. ( The skull football story is for another time maybe)
1970's Graffiti, UK styleee !
I remember graffiti in the 70's in the UK. There was one guy who wrote 'Cats like plain crisps' all over Richmond. I was there at the very start so as monochrome says so poignantly F**k off back to NY! I got arrested in 1979 for being drunk and disorderly and criminal damage, staggering home drunk after my first couple of pints, found a big bucket of gloss paint outside the DHSS office, (unemployment office for those in the USA).. and for want of a brush, we proceeded to stick our hands in the tin, scooping out handfulls of paint, with our bare hands, we wrote "C*nts" across the facade of the building in metre high letters, as well as several dozen beautifully rendered handprints ;D.. I'll never forget the vision of my good friend Rich (R.I.P) trying (unsuccessfully) to escape from the police by crawling as quickly as he could through the tipped over bucket of paint and down the road with the copper legging it after him. There were little white handprints down the highstreet for years afterwards. We got a right slapping in the cell for seriously messing up the interior of the police car and ended up in court number 2 at Leeds Juvenile court where we were sentenced to 40 hours of community service, cleaning up an old graveyard. We were 13 years old. ( The skull football story is for another time maybe) 1970's Graffiti, UK styleee !
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London Tonight, by pastiepie on Feb 23, 2007 2:39:34 GMT 1, now that's graffiti proper.
now that's graffiti proper.
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London Tonight, by corblimeylimey on Feb 23, 2007 11:02:18 GMT 1, The only 'graffiti' I did in the 70's was write "Mr Stewart is Merde" on the blackboard just before our French teacher came and started the lesson. Maybe it was corny and all too clever but it certainly had passion but that didn't make it art. The funny thing was that someone else got into trouble for it because I'd spelt Stewart wrong, the same mistake this other kid made regularly.
The only 'graffiti' I did in the 70's was write "Mr Stewart is Merde" on the blackboard just before our French teacher came and started the lesson. Maybe it was corny and all too clever but it certainly had passion but that didn't make it art. The funny thing was that someone else got into trouble for it because I'd spelt Stewart wrong, the same mistake this other kid made regularly.
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saltandiron
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London Tonight, by saltandiron on Feb 23, 2007 11:50:35 GMT 1, So did anyone go to this last night? Was the guy lynched and a can of paint shoved in his mouth by angry London writers?
So did anyone go to this last night? Was the guy lynched and a can of paint shoved in his mouth by angry London writers?
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coxy
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London Tonight, by coxy on Feb 23, 2007 17:29:02 GMT 1, i checked it out. bloody good book. didn't stay long so can't be certain he escaped intact but something tells me he can handle himself.. to be honest i've heard the same nyc centric line from alot of the original ny writers.. i once saw lee q do a talk where he told a room full of young writers that graffiti was dead. and i quote "how many fuckin times can you write your name man".
i don't think they mean to piss young writers off i think it's just a matter of perspective. if you'd been around painting trains with dondi and the like what you get on the london underground now must seem a bit well, not as good... to put it politely.
i checked it out. bloody good book. didn't stay long so can't be certain he escaped intact but something tells me he can handle himself.. to be honest i've heard the same nyc centric line from alot of the original ny writers.. i once saw lee q do a talk where he told a room full of young writers that graffiti was dead. and i quote "how many fuckin times can you write your name man".
i don't think they mean to piss young writers off i think it's just a matter of perspective. if you'd been around painting trains with dondi and the like what you get on the london underground now must seem a bit well, not as good... to put it politely.
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London Tonight, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 25, 2007 12:58:47 GMT 1, Nuart
That's the best story I've heard in ages LOL superb!
J
Nuart
That's the best story I've heard in ages LOL superb!
J
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