nobokov
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Should release information still be shared?, by nobokov on Oct 6, 2017 15:37:17 GMT 1, Looking through the For Sale threads, I see that most threads are filled with screaming vitriol these days. Which brings be to the thought, should release information be even shared on this forum anymore?
There is a strong contingent that proclaims that the culture of this forum is against flipping and focuses on art discussion, the love of art, and sharing information. I don't know how large that contingent is. There's also another strong contingent of flippers on here who seek to profit from art as a commodity.
If the majority of members wants to foster art discussion and steer discussion away from profits, should release information even be shared? I'd argue that releasing those details prior to launch, makes it more difficult for fans of the art to purchase it and provides a resource for lurking resellers.
I also recognize that sharing information can definitely benefit the fans of an artist, providing information they would not have been able to come by without the forum. Without this forum, I wouldn't have been able to purchase some treasured picks.
There's great purchasing power in this forum. Without hundreds of added buyers to every release, I wonder how things would be affected.
Looking through the For Sale threads, I see that most threads are filled with screaming vitriol these days. Which brings be to the thought, should release information be even shared on this forum anymore?
There is a strong contingent that proclaims that the culture of this forum is against flipping and focuses on art discussion, the love of art, and sharing information. I don't know how large that contingent is. There's also another strong contingent of flippers on here who seek to profit from art as a commodity.
If the majority of members wants to foster art discussion and steer discussion away from profits, should release information even be shared? I'd argue that releasing those details prior to launch, makes it more difficult for fans of the art to purchase it and provides a resource for lurking resellers.
I also recognize that sharing information can definitely benefit the fans of an artist, providing information they would not have been able to come by without the forum. Without this forum, I wouldn't have been able to purchase some treasured picks.
There's great purchasing power in this forum. Without hundreds of added buyers to every release, I wonder how things would be affected.
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Should release information still be shared?, by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 15:45:58 GMT 1, Yes. What do you know? New Banksy print release? Tell me...tell me...tell me!
It's sad but it's become pretty apparent that this forum is monitored so flippers can see who flavour of the month is. Wasn't there over 100 'guests' at one point monitoring the Invader page on his last release date?
Yes. What do you know? New Banksy print release? Tell me...tell me...tell me!
It's sad but it's become pretty apparent that this forum is monitored so flippers can see who flavour of the month is. Wasn't there over 100 'guests' at one point monitoring the Invader page on his last release date?
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chevyav53
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Should release information still be shared?, by chevyav53 on Oct 6, 2017 15:50:57 GMT 1, I like a little notice but not an exact time. The random drops are a good way to improve chances of landing a piece.
I like a little notice but not an exact time. The random drops are a good way to improve chances of landing a piece.
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Flashback
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Should release information still be shared?, by Flashback on Oct 6, 2017 16:12:31 GMT 1, Good valid points for and against.
I still think information will leak out but it would help to reduce it by having a password protected section of the forum for release info, with say a minimum post count allowing access.
Good valid points for and against.
I still think information will leak out but it would help to reduce it by having a password protected section of the forum for release info, with say a minimum post count allowing access.
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Hairbland
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Should release information still be shared?, by Hairbland on Oct 6, 2017 16:50:40 GMT 1, Sounds like the war on drugs- futile. There are plenty of other sites with this info, and many board members have moved on to those sites. And the artists are all over social media.
Sounds like the war on drugs- futile. There are plenty of other sites with this info, and many board members have moved on to those sites. And the artists are all over social media.
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Flashback
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Should release information still be shared?, by Flashback on Oct 6, 2017 16:59:30 GMT 1, I get you but there's only so many artists people know about. Those looking for a quick flip aren't following everyone.
I get you but there's only so many artists people know about. Those looking for a quick flip aren't following everyone.
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Should release information still be shared?, by Happy Shopper on Oct 6, 2017 17:06:00 GMT 1, I know some releases have been shared privately in the past, but there's always someone who posts it or other sites.
This place should be all about new releases, and discussion about them... we need more if anything! 
I know some releases have been shared privately in the past, but there's always someone who posts it or other sites. This place should be all about new releases, and discussion about them... we need more if anything! |
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jayjay7
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Should release information still be shared?, by jayjay7 on Oct 6, 2017 22:34:29 GMT 1, For the sake of collectors here, I'd continue to share any releases I’m aware of... that I think forum members would care about.
But this is a good question.
As mentioned, unfortunately controlling flipping probably is something like the “war on drugs” – futile.
For the sake of collectors here, I'd continue to share any releases I’m aware of... that I think forum members would care about.
But this is a good question.
As mentioned, unfortunately controlling flipping probably is something like the “war on drugs” – futile.
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Hairbland
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Should release information still be shared?, by Hairbland on Oct 6, 2017 23:15:37 GMT 1, I know some releases have been shared privately in the past, but there's always someone who posts it or other sites. This place should be all about new releases, and discussion about them... we need more if anything!
Agreed, these threads wondering if Banksy dresses to the left or right are getting boring!
At least the Murakamis are finally shipping!
I know some releases have been shared privately in the past, but there's always someone who posts it or other sites. This place should be all about new releases, and discussion about them... we need more if anything! Agreed, these threads wondering if Banksy dresses to the left or right are getting boring! At least the Murakamis are finally shipping! |
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nobokov
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Should release information still be shared?, by nobokov on Oct 6, 2017 23:35:31 GMT 1, If release information isn't shared, why would anyone visit the forum...for flipping vitriol? If the forum is against flipping, ban the known flippers. There are many sources on the internet for release information, so not posting it here will only cause less people to visit the site. Don't be an elitist cunt.
If release information isn't shared, a discussion of the artwork after it's purchased might be a possibility. If you ban the known flippers, the banned can still access the website and read the posts. There aren't that many sources for release information concentrated in an area where multiple accounts can hype a release. EBeans is slowly dying and NBF has been quiet for quite some time.
It's just surprising to me how people like to comment prior to release that they are after a certain limited item. The more they talk about it, the less chance they have at purchasing it.
If release information isn't shared, why would anyone visit the forum...for flipping vitriol? If the forum is against flipping, ban the known flippers. There are many sources on the internet for release information, so not posting it here will only cause less people to visit the site. Don't be an elitist cunt. Two c**t in one day - must be a record for UAA. I suppose it's not a surprise that one came from you, one of our cheeriest commenters. But anyway, I can't change who I am - I am an elitist cunt. If release information isn't shared, a discussion of the artwork after it's purchased might be a possibility. If you ban the known flippers, the banned can still access the website and read the posts. There aren't that many sources for release information concentrated in an area where multiple accounts can hype a release. EBeans is slowly dying and NBF has been quiet for quite some time. It's just surprising to me how people like to comment prior to release that they are after a certain limited item. The more they talk about it, the less chance they have at purchasing it. |
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r45t4m4n
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Should release information still be shared?, by r45t4m4n on Oct 7, 2017 0:08:38 GMT 1, There have been multiple releases I was not aware of from artists I was not following that I credit this forum for me discovering; prints I plan on keeping. Artists/galleries that I now follow and as a result been exposed to other artists whose works I enjoy. Its a double edges sword, for those truly interested in art and collecting it is a boon, for flippers it is just a source to take releases from the true fans.
There have been multiple releases I was not aware of from artists I was not following that I credit this forum for me discovering; prints I plan on keeping. Artists/galleries that I now follow and as a result been exposed to other artists whose works I enjoy. Its a double edges sword, for those truly interested in art and collecting it is a boon, for flippers it is just a source to take releases from the true fans.
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treweman
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Should release information still be shared?, by treweman on Oct 7, 2017 2:23:43 GMT 1, A very selfish reply ... I love art, have an extensive collection, and benefit greatly from the information I pick up on the various forums. I don't use Facebook, instagram, or twitter, and would have missed out on some terrific art if not for the generosity of others to share what they know. I don't tend to buy prints anymore, so release info is largely unhelpful. But threads that discuss new or emerging artists, interesting auctions, or upcoming shows are wonderful. Yes, people abuse this information, just like some people abuse almost everything. But if we stop providing this information publicly, the flippers and abusers will still exist, and collectors like me will suffer.
A very selfish reply ... I love art, have an extensive collection, and benefit greatly from the information I pick up on the various forums. I don't use Facebook, instagram, or twitter, and would have missed out on some terrific art if not for the generosity of others to share what they know. I don't tend to buy prints anymore, so release info is largely unhelpful. But threads that discuss new or emerging artists, interesting auctions, or upcoming shows are wonderful. Yes, people abuse this information, just like some people abuse almost everything. But if we stop providing this information publicly, the flippers and abusers will still exist, and collectors like me will suffer.
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Should release information still be shared?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 7, 2017 2:43:43 GMT 1, I feel release information should be shared.
The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information.
It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release.
I feel release information should be shared.
The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information.
It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release.
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Poly Mindset
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Should release information still be shared?, by Poly Mindset on Oct 7, 2017 4:04:10 GMT 1, I feel release information should be shared. The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information. It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release.
I feel release information should be shared. The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information. It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release. Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. |
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chevyav53
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Should release information still be shared?, by chevyav53 on Oct 7, 2017 4:34:15 GMT 1, So should I or not share this? 
New Mosaics of he Ravenna
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So should I or not share this? New Mosaics of he Ravenna bbcode img |
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nobokov
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Should release information still be shared?, by nobokov on Oct 7, 2017 4:52:07 GMT 1, So should I or not share this? New Mosaics of he Ravenna bbcode img
So should I or not share this? New Mosaics of he Ravenna bbcode imgWhen I saw that image, I immediately heard the sound of a quickly deflating whoopie cushion. |
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chevyav53
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Should release information still be shared?, by chevyav53 on Oct 7, 2017 5:11:07 GMT 1, Why because the bird is dropping a deuce on the potential cover.
Why because the bird is dropping a deuce on the potential cover.
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Should release information still be shared?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 9, 2017 7:49:54 GMT 1, Sadly information and photos seems to be seen by many as something that has a value. About 10 years back everyone would take photos at gallery shows and events to share on here, but many now will only post on their own blogs. Same with print release news, with people only sharing within a small group of friends.
Sadly information and photos seems to be seen by many as something that has a value. About 10 years back everyone would take photos at gallery shows and events to share on here, but many now will only post on their own blogs. Same with print release news, with people only sharing within a small group of friends.
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Winter
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Should release information still be shared?, by Winter on Oct 9, 2017 8:16:39 GMT 1, I feel release information should be shared. The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information. It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release. Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased.
Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity.
Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here?
I feel release information should be shared. The whole point of the forum is too discuss things and share views and information. It's sad to see posts from people who want to use the site to gain information, but also choose to hide information that they know purely to give themselves an advantage in the rush for a print release. Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here? |
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GMA
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Should release information still be shared?, by GMA on Oct 9, 2017 8:57:34 GMT 1, Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here?
I would For example, Pejac should be releasing another print by the end of this year. Whether you find that info valuable or not is another matter. I mean, there's no date confirmed or anything like that yet and it may not even happen, but still a bit of info for those who have been after one of his prints, might now think "oh, I'll wait a couple of months just incase"
Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here? I would For example, Pejac should be releasing another print by the end of this year. Whether you find that info valuable or not is another matter. I mean, there's no date confirmed or anything like that yet and it may not even happen, but still a bit of info for those who have been after one of his prints, might now think "oh, I'll wait a couple of months just incase" |
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Should release information still be shared?, by Daniel Silk on Oct 9, 2017 9:33:31 GMT 1, The purpose of the site was always to share as much information as possible on Artists and Print Releases to help the scene grow. Many members over the years have suggested and fought for parts of the site be hidden from new members to give the older members an advantage in buying and even selling prints, but that's something I have always been against.
The purpose of the site was always to share as much information as possible on Artists and Print Releases to help the scene grow. Many members over the years have suggested and fought for parts of the site be hidden from new members to give the older members an advantage in buying and even selling prints, but that's something I have always been against.
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Dust Buster
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Should release information still be shared?, by Dust Buster on Oct 9, 2017 16:15:46 GMT 1, This place has made me so much more informed about art in such a small amount of time, even though I lurked for quite a while before joining officially relatively recently. Threads about future print drops have helped me form an opinion of what I do and don't like, judging the work on its own merit, often before a price is known or internet hype has influenced it.
But I have to say that this place has been difficult to follow sometimes. There is so much misinformation that it takes actual time and effort to parse fact from fiction. Communities require trust first and foremost, and without that we're just animals.
There is also a disproportionate amount of either flipping or complaining about flipping on this forum. Lately I actually think there's been more complaining than actual flipping. I personally don't have a firm stance on it as it pertains to this forum. I don't like it more than anyone else when I miss an important print drop, but anything that is in demand and is sold by the source for less than its market value will be resold for more here or somewhere else. It's the same thing with concert tickets. I stopped getting wound up about that long ago.
But I do think it's important for the community have a stance on it one way or another and create forum policies to reflect it. Things we could do might include -
- creating a moratorium on selling new releases
- don't allow people who are only here to sell
- require a certain post count or membership length before allowing For Sale privileges
- or if the policy is that flipping is allowed, don't allow people to derail people's sales threads
- punish offenses - 3 strikes, 1 strike, etc
- create a new board just for print drops and use post count or membership date to determine privileges
Far be it from me to dictate forum policy as a somewhat new member, but most strong online communities have them and they evolve as needs changes.
This place has made me so much more informed about art in such a small amount of time, even though I lurked for quite a while before joining officially relatively recently. Threads about future print drops have helped me form an opinion of what I do and don't like, judging the work on its own merit, often before a price is known or internet hype has influenced it.
But I have to say that this place has been difficult to follow sometimes. There is so much misinformation that it takes actual time and effort to parse fact from fiction. Communities require trust first and foremost, and without that we're just animals.
There is also a disproportionate amount of either flipping or complaining about flipping on this forum. Lately I actually think there's been more complaining than actual flipping. I personally don't have a firm stance on it as it pertains to this forum. I don't like it more than anyone else when I miss an important print drop, but anything that is in demand and is sold by the source for less than its market value will be resold for more here or somewhere else. It's the same thing with concert tickets. I stopped getting wound up about that long ago.
But I do think it's important for the community have a stance on it one way or another and create forum policies to reflect it. Things we could do might include -
- creating a moratorium on selling new releases
- don't allow people who are only here to sell
- require a certain post count or membership length before allowing For Sale privileges
- or if the policy is that flipping is allowed, don't allow people to derail people's sales threads
- punish offenses - 3 strikes, 1 strike, etc
- create a new board just for print drops and use post count or membership date to determine privileges
Far be it from me to dictate forum policy as a somewhat new member, but most strong online communities have them and they evolve as needs changes.
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Poly Mindset
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Should release information still be shared?, by Poly Mindset on Oct 9, 2017 16:47:57 GMT 1, Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here?
Information is the most valuable commodity there is, well that, and sleep. However, pertaining to this forum release information should be shared so that everyone can obtain the best pieces for their collection. Often times getting new pieces frees up older pieces that are then made available here. It's a win win situation that perpetuates art and additionally helps to keep this forums wheels greased. Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here? The answer is and should be yes. I understand your point about flippers but let's not stereotype. There is always going to be a percentage of people who are in it for reasons contrary to what purists believe but the fact is there are many here who actually do collect art. That's not to say that they keep it forever, and some of their pieces will eventually appear on here for sale, hopefully at a decent price. I think everyone should have an equal opportunity to participate in new releases whatever their stance. I for one have no problem giving whatever release info I can to any member on this forum. Take for instance the Pose "Doll" release, there were a few members who didn't have the password which I gave them via PM out of respect for Pose. I also believe what comes around goes around, it's reciprocal. If you help someone hopefully the will return the favor. |
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Should release information still be shared?, by coller on Oct 9, 2017 17:12:25 GMT 1, Share the release information.
When people ask questions like "do you think this is a good buy?" or "do you think this will go up in value?" tell them to go to EB.
Share the release information.
When people ask questions like "do you think this is a good buy?" or "do you think this will go up in value?" tell them to go to EB.
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wrigs
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Should release information still be shared?, by wrigs on Oct 9, 2017 20:07:00 GMT 1, From what I can gather a certain population of the older members seem just as keen on flipping so not sure what it would achieve personally.
I’ve found the forum very useful for info on new artists etc however for releases nothing’s beat following the artists you like on Instagram I’ve found
From what I can gather a certain population of the older members seem just as keen on flipping so not sure what it would achieve personally.
I’ve found the forum very useful for info on new artists etc however for releases nothing’s beat following the artists you like on Instagram I’ve found
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jayTown
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Should release information still be shared?, by jayTown on Oct 9, 2017 21:10:27 GMT 1, People have always flipped but it felt like people also used to give back more. We see A LOT of first post "members" now just coming here to make a profit from the community. THAT's what's annoying.
People have always flipped but it felt like people also used to give back more. We see A LOT of first post "members" now just coming here to make a profit from the community. THAT's what's annoying.
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Hairbland
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Should release information still be shared?, by Hairbland on Oct 9, 2017 22:23:03 GMT 1, This place has made me so much more informed about art in such a small amount of time, even though I lurked for quite a while before joining officially relatively recently. Threads about future print drops have helped me form an opinion of what I do and don't like, judging the work on its own merit, often before a price is known or internet hype has influenced it. But I have to say that this place has been difficult to follow sometimes. There is so much misinformation that it takes actual time and effort to parse fact from fiction. Communities require trust first and foremost, and without that we're just animals. There is also a disproportionate amount of either flipping or complaining about flipping on this forum. Lately I actually think there's been more complaining than actual flipping. I personally don't have a firm stance on it as it pertains to this forum. I don't like it more than anyone else when I miss an important print drop, but anything that is in demand and is sold by the source for less than its market value will be resold for more here or somewhere else. It's the same thing with concert tickets. I stopped getting wound up about that long ago. But I do think it's important for the community have a stance on it one way or another and create forum policies to reflect it. Things we could do might include - - creating a moratorium on selling new releases - don't allow people who are only here to sell - require a certain post count or membership length before allowing For Sale privileges - or if the policy is that flipping is allowed, don't allow people to derail people's sales threads - punish offenses - 3 strikes, 1 strike, etc - create a new board just for print drops and use post count or membership date to determine privileges Far be it from me to dictate forum policy as a somewhat new member, but most strong online communities have them and they evolve as needs changes.
Maybe.
Seems odd that fans of a scene without rules, often breaking the law, want rules.
This place has made me so much more informed about art in such a small amount of time, even though I lurked for quite a while before joining officially relatively recently. Threads about future print drops have helped me form an opinion of what I do and don't like, judging the work on its own merit, often before a price is known or internet hype has influenced it. But I have to say that this place has been difficult to follow sometimes. There is so much misinformation that it takes actual time and effort to parse fact from fiction. Communities require trust first and foremost, and without that we're just animals. There is also a disproportionate amount of either flipping or complaining about flipping on this forum. Lately I actually think there's been more complaining than actual flipping. I personally don't have a firm stance on it as it pertains to this forum. I don't like it more than anyone else when I miss an important print drop, but anything that is in demand and is sold by the source for less than its market value will be resold for more here or somewhere else. It's the same thing with concert tickets. I stopped getting wound up about that long ago. But I do think it's important for the community have a stance on it one way or another and create forum policies to reflect it. Things we could do might include - - creating a moratorium on selling new releases - don't allow people who are only here to sell - require a certain post count or membership length before allowing For Sale privileges - or if the policy is that flipping is allowed, don't allow people to derail people's sales threads - punish offenses - 3 strikes, 1 strike, etc - create a new board just for print drops and use post count or membership date to determine privileges Far be it from me to dictate forum policy as a somewhat new member, but most strong online communities have them and they evolve as needs changes. Maybe. Seems odd that fans of a scene without rules, often breaking the law, want rules. |
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highflyer
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July 2014
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Should release information still be shared?, by highflyer on Oct 9, 2017 22:48:35 GMT 1, Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here? I would For example, Pejac should be releasing another print by the end of this year. Whether you find that info valuable or not is another matter. I mean, there's no date confirmed or anything like that yet and it may not even happen, but still a bit of info for those who have been after one of his prints, might now think "oh, I'll wait a couple of months just incase"
That isn't info but cheers
Unfortunately there are many people here who don’t have collections, it’s just about pure profit. They’re the same people who buy and sell tickets without any interest in music. The amount of bitching when people miss out on releases particularly by members who have a handful of posts and have contributed nothing. The Laz Invader springs to mind. The art-loving members who went mad at the charity when they thought they would miss out on a Harland Miller postcard only to then flip it as the earliest opportunity. Question is, if you had valuable information on a new release, would you share it on here? I would For example, Pejac should be releasing another print by the end of this year. Whether you find that info valuable or not is another matter. I mean, there's no date confirmed or anything like that yet and it may not even happen, but still a bit of info for those who have been after one of his prints, might now think "oh, I'll wait a couple of months just incase" That isn't info but cheers |
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Dust Buster
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March 2017
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Should release information still be shared?, by Dust Buster on Oct 9, 2017 23:43:21 GMT 1, Maybe. Seems odd that fans of a scene without rules, often breaking the law, want rules.
But this is a thread discussing how to deal with people who are not fans and are here for other reasons. Real life and online communities are not the same thing. I’m just pointing out some things that are commonly done to help online communities thrive..
Maybe. Seems odd that fans of a scene without rules, often breaking the law, want rules. But this is a thread discussing how to deal with people who are not fans and are here for other reasons. Real life and online communities are not the same thing. I’m just pointing out some things that are commonly done to help online communities thrive.. |
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andyroo0312
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July 2011
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Should release information still be shared?, by andyroo0312 on Oct 10, 2017 2:26:24 GMT 1, I have always had a policy to share vital info on drops when i am not interested in the art other wise i just whistle while i work.. 
I have always had a policy to share vital info on drops when i am not interested in the art other wise i just whistle while i work.. |
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