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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by needfoolthings on Mar 21, 2018 3:22:39 GMT 1, Hello all,
I am hoping to get advice on shipping a Banksy print to Pest Control for authentication.
It is a IFTL unsigned version that has been framed for about 5 years.
I was asked to send it in for authentication by PC and the predicament is that it will cost me with Flight Logistics from the US nearly 500$ each way to have it packed flat, if I take it out of the frame of which I'm sure PC will not want it framed to perform the authentication.
I was thinking although this might sound crazy to have it rolled up and packed in a tube for affordable shipping at a fraction of the cost.
Can this be done without peril?
A few factors to consider, the print is not in mint and has some slight damage from the frame once breaking in shipping that scratched and slightly creased the print.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Ian
Hello all,
I am hoping to get advice on shipping a Banksy print to Pest Control for authentication.
It is a IFTL unsigned version that has been framed for about 5 years.
I was asked to send it in for authentication by PC and the predicament is that it will cost me with Flight Logistics from the US nearly 500$ each way to have it packed flat, if I take it out of the frame of which I'm sure PC will not want it framed to perform the authentication.
I was thinking although this might sound crazy to have it rolled up and packed in a tube for affordable shipping at a fraction of the cost.
Can this be done without peril?
A few factors to consider, the print is not in mint and has some slight damage from the frame once breaking in shipping that scratched and slightly creased the print.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Ian
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Pipes on Mar 21, 2018 3:42:37 GMT 1, Maybe get flights and see if you can take it yourself? Flights to UK can be under $1000!
Alternatively - take it to a restorers to be unframed. Though not ideal - if packed properly - it will be ok in a WIDE tube.
UPS/FedEx won't insure for the value though.
Maybe get flights and see if you can take it yourself? Flights to UK can be under $1000!
Alternatively - take it to a restorers to be unframed. Though not ideal - if packed properly - it will be ok in a WIDE tube.
UPS/FedEx won't insure for the value though.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by bonsai on Mar 21, 2018 3:44:23 GMT 1, I would send it rolled in tube. Glass breaking in transit if the major risk.
I would send it rolled in tube. Glass breaking in transit if the major risk.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Laugh Now 10 on Mar 21, 2018 4:17:32 GMT 1, PC wonโt let you just simply upload pics in regard to the authentication process? Best of luck to you but if you ship the print I would ship it flat packed irrespective of cost. Someone once said to me, โnever roll a Banksyโ...
PC wonโt let you just simply upload pics in regard to the authentication process? Best of luck to you but if you ship the print I would ship it flat packed irrespective of cost. Someone once said to me, โnever roll a Banksyโ...
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by ToonKiller on Mar 21, 2018 4:31:28 GMT 1, Take it to a reputable framer and get it removed from the frame, you canโt send it in framed.
Flight Logistics offers a service where theyโll have someone pack it up for you if youโre not comfortable doing it yourself. Just follow the instructions they gave you, I had to send in a print years ago and just double tubed it.
Take it to a reputable framer and get it removed from the frame, you canโt send it in framed.
Flight Logistics offers a service where theyโll have someone pack it up for you if youโre not comfortable doing it yourself. Just follow the instructions they gave you, I had to send in a print years ago and just double tubed it.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by UK Art Dealer on Mar 21, 2018 4:37:29 GMT 1, Iโve got an idea - get it unframed locally. Send it rolled via FL to PC - once theyโve authenticated it ask FL to send it to Graham Bignell for the imperfections to be dealt with, FL send it back. Economics prob in your favour assuming you didnโt buy it 5 seconds before youโre reading this.
Iโve got an idea - get it unframed locally. Send it rolled via FL to PC - once theyโve authenticated it ask FL to send it to Graham Bignell for the imperfections to be dealt with, FL send it back. Economics prob in your favour assuming you didnโt buy it 5 seconds before youโre reading this.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Amber Halo on Mar 21, 2018 5:06:54 GMT 1, Iโm liking the idea of flying to London and making a trip out of it. I bought a direct round-trip ticket to London from the west coast of the US for $550 recently.
Iโm liking the idea of flying to London and making a trip out of it. I bought a direct round-trip ticket to London from the west coast of the US for $550 recently.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Poster Bob on Mar 21, 2018 9:43:18 GMT 1, This is pretty simple. Remove it from the frame, tube it and ship it there and back for about ยฃ500 total once you factor in insurance. Have it repaired when it comes back from PC.
This is pretty simple. Remove it from the frame, tube it and ship it there and back for about ยฃ500 total once you factor in insurance. Have it repaired when it comes back from PC.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by tab1 on Mar 21, 2018 21:37:03 GMT 1, Iโm liking the idea of flying to London and making a trip out of it. I bought a direct round-trip ticket to London from the west coast of the US for $550 recently.
Make it a 3 months round trip just incase
Food bill will be more than the plane ticket
Pow can take a while
Iโm liking the idea of flying to London and making a trip out of it. I bought a direct round-trip ticket to London from the west coast of the US for $550 recently. Make it a 3 months round trip just incase Food bill will be more than the plane ticket Pow can take a while |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Slip on Mar 22, 2018 8:20:08 GMT 1, Or sell it to me with no coa. ๐
Or sell it to me with no coa. ๐
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by ARN on Mar 22, 2018 19:35:50 GMT 1, As above! I fly from NYC to London every couple of months 
As above! I fly from NYC to London every couple of months |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 20:50:34 GMT 1, My mate Pablo has friends who will ship packages overseas for a fee.
My mate Pablo has friends who will ship packages overseas for a fee.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by chevyav53 on Mar 22, 2018 21:05:58 GMT 1, My mate Pablo has friends who will ship packages overseas for a fee.
My mate Pablo has friends who will ship packages overseas for a fee. Sure trust Pablo |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 21:23:11 GMT 1, you know him too!
you know him too!
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by needfoolthings on Mar 24, 2018 18:42:56 GMT 1, I would like to thank everyone for their kind comments. You guys are a great bunch of humans.
To clarify: I bought the piece from a member here named madden" in 2011 through an eBay sale for 1k framed I applied for Pest control cert in 2012.
Then I had some legal issues and had to short sell it
Then bought it back after 5 years.
Since the piece in that 5 years changed hands two times and those people apparently applied for pest control so now pest control wants me to actually send it in to them to prove I am actually the owner to issue a cert. (sigh) Although..They are quite nice there..
If I "flat pack" ship it with the company "Flight Logistics" who works with Pest control to bring in batches of banksy's they want around ยฃ500 or 650$ US which is worth it in the scheme of things.
My main concern is rolling up a heavy print like this one even with a large tube. It's really dry where I live no more than 10-20% humidity and I assume the piece will be stiff as it gas been framed for the last 5 years.
My hopes would be to roll it as it would cost so much less but I'll take your valuable advice as to what is suggested.
The trip to Great Britain is out as I am on the west coast of US and the cheapest seats are still over 2k USD.
Thanks all!๐โจ
I would like to thank everyone for their kind comments. You guys are a great bunch of humans.
To clarify: I bought the piece from a member here named madden" in 2011 through an eBay sale for 1k framed I applied for Pest control cert in 2012.
Then I had some legal issues and had to short sell it
Then bought it back after 5 years.
Since the piece in that 5 years changed hands two times and those people apparently applied for pest control so now pest control wants me to actually send it in to them to prove I am actually the owner to issue a cert. (sigh) Although..They are quite nice there..
If I "flat pack" ship it with the company "Flight Logistics" who works with Pest control to bring in batches of banksy's they want around ยฃ500 or 650$ US which is worth it in the scheme of things.
My main concern is rolling up a heavy print like this one even with a large tube. It's really dry where I live no more than 10-20% humidity and I assume the piece will be stiff as it gas been framed for the last 5 years.
My hopes would be to roll it as it would cost so much less but I'll take your valuable advice as to what is suggested.
The trip to Great Britain is out as I am on the west coast of US and the cheapest seats are still over 2k USD.
Thanks all!๐โจ
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Laugh Now 10 on Mar 24, 2018 19:03:58 GMT 1, Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate.
Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 20:48:19 GMT 1, Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate.
FL are only as good as the shipper they use and ive had a crate arrive covered in footprints as they used the now defunct Citylink who were no better than an amazon shipper and certainly not soneone who should have been trusted with an expensive print.
Find out who they intend to use to ship the item.
Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate. FL are only as good as the shipper they use and ive had a crate arrive covered in footprints as they used the now defunct Citylink who were no better than an amazon shipper and certainly not soneone who should have been trusted with an expensive print. Find out who they intend to use to ship the item. |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 21:30:54 GMT 1, Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate. FL are only as good as the shipper they use and ive had a crate arrive covered in footprints as they used the now defunct Citylink who were no better than an amazon shipper and certainly not soneone who should have been trusted with an expensive print. Find out who they intend to use to ship the item.
Yes, agreed, i had something sent to me via FL who used a couriers that managed to seriously fuck the box up
Just FYI any business you have with Flight Logistics they are legit and the gold standard for shipping a Banksy (based on my personal experience). Good luck, mate. FL are only as good as the shipper they use and ive had a crate arrive covered in footprints as they used the now defunct Citylink who were no better than an amazon shipper and certainly not soneone who should have been trusted with an expensive print. Find out who they intend to use to ship the item. Yes, agreed, i had something sent to me via FL who used a couriers that managed to seriously fuck the box up |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by concrete jungle on Mar 24, 2018 23:12:29 GMT 1, Suspect if you use a proper oversized tube (20cm diameter plus) you should be ok. You are right that print is on pretty thick stock paper - rolling into anything smaller will defo add to your damage. Once you get it back from PC get it professionally sorted at your end.....
Suspect if you use a proper oversized tube (20cm diameter plus) you should be ok. You are right that print is on pretty thick stock paper - rolling into anything smaller will defo add to your damage. Once you get it back from PC get it professionally sorted at your end.....
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by concrete jungle on Mar 24, 2018 23:14:51 GMT 1, Also think FL will offer insurance - at a cost. If it's too pricey maybe look into getting your own independent transit insurance....
Also think FL will offer insurance - at a cost. If it's too pricey maybe look into getting your own independent transit insurance....
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Pipes on Mar 25, 2018 0:02:21 GMT 1, POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind.
POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind.
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Pipes on Mar 25, 2018 0:13:16 GMT 1, POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind. do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland.
Iโm not sure. But I have used FL to get a piece from Scotland to London. Iโm sure he would use them if you wanted to pay ๐
POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind. do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland. Iโm not sure. But I have used FL to get a piece from Scotland to London. Iโm sure he would use them if you wanted to pay ๐ |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 0:24:25 GMT 1, POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind. do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland.
Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs.
For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items.
POW used FL as well. FL offer insurance - not cheap - but peace of mind. do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland. Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Pysgod on Mar 25, 2018 0:37:24 GMT 1, do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland. Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items.
do you know if mr frameman uses fl? I'm thinking of sending a piece down to him from Scotland. Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. Are they Super calla ? |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 0:54:07 GMT 1, Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. Are they Super calla ?
Best headline in a newspaper was 10 years or so back when Inverness Caley best Celtic in a cup tie " Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious", sing it and it sounds better ๐ John Barnes was the manager of Celtic then, he didnt last long.
Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. Are they Super calla ? Best headline in a newspaper was 10 years or so back when Inverness Caley best Celtic in a cup tie " Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious", sing it and it sounds better ๐ John Barnes was the manager of Celtic then, he didnt last long. |
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Need advice shipping Banksy print to Pest Control, by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 18:16:16 GMT 1, Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. Thanks for the advice. I've contacted Gary and I'll hopefully be sending it next week. It's been stored flat so I'm thinking of sending it flat packed. Between two sheets of half inch ply. He's quoted me ยฃ40 each way fully insured. I was getting the FEAR when I started reading this thread with regards to FL. Does Garry give you a time slot with regards to collection? Thanks again, the info you can get on this forum is excellent ๐
Gary will tell you when its scheduled but Fragilistics will give u fine dtls. Works out well as the driver usually calls me and sometimes picks up late at night or first thing which suits me.
Ive used FL for tubed prints and wld consider them again but id want to know who they are using to courier.
Quinn i live in Aberdeen and used MFM loads and he uses a company called Fragilistics and they are excellent. I have sent prints in tubes, flat packed and framed to MFM and Fragilistics pick it up, they are in Scotland a couple of times per week. Never had any issues at all, think its about ยฃ40 charge. PM me if you need more info but Gary will advise no probs. For me FL should be using a courier like Fragilistics as opposed to Citylink for expensive, fragile items. Thanks for the advice. I've contacted Gary and I'll hopefully be sending it next week. It's been stored flat so I'm thinking of sending it flat packed. Between two sheets of half inch ply. He's quoted me ยฃ40 each way fully insured. I was getting the FEAR when I started reading this thread with regards to FL. Does Garry give you a time slot with regards to collection? Thanks again, the info you can get on this forum is excellent ๐ Gary will tell you when its scheduled but Fragilistics will give u fine dtls. Works out well as the driver usually calls me and sometimes picks up late at night or first thing which suits me. Ive used FL for tubed prints and wld consider them again but id want to know who they are using to courier. |
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