irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by irl1 on Apr 3, 2018 21:39:59 GMT 1, Low reserve on this only 15,000 NZ, estimate 30,000 to 50,000, and low edition number.
Just thought i'd post this for anyone looking for one.
www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/119943_important-paintings-and-contemporary-art/
|
|
irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by irl1 on Apr 3, 2018 22:48:27 GMT 1, A bid on the balloon girl now
A bid on the balloon girl now
|
|
chr1s
New Member
Posts โข 130
Likes โข 300
February 2011
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by chr1s on Apr 4, 2018 14:12:25 GMT 1, Low number in an edition doesn't add value to a print or make it any more desirable....unless it is number 1 of the edition.
Low number in an edition doesn't add value to a print or make it any more desirable....unless it is number 1 of the edition.
|
|
artearte
New Member
Posts โข 355
Likes โข 92
August 2015
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by artearte on Apr 4, 2018 20:59:14 GMT 1,
Is your this damage GWRB?
Is your this damage GWRB? |
|
irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by irl1 on Apr 4, 2018 22:48:27 GMT 1, Is your this damage GWRB?
Is your this damage GWRB? If you mean is this mine, no. |
|
Poppy Sunshine
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,700
Likes โข 324
January 2008
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 12, 2018 8:11:43 GMT 1, Knocked down at $66,000 NZ.
Currencies direct translated this to ยฃ34,957 but with the auctioneers 17.5% plus GST of 15% Import duty of 5% and flight logistics shipping and insurance circa ยฃ900 this would have cost a UK buyer around ยฃ44,500 give or take.
As almost all of the interest via the internet and phone lines was from overseas it's a fair bet it's coming home but if someone local to the auction bought it they would save the duties and shipping fees of about ยฃ2600.
So, no doubt the low ballers will be quoting the hammer price or even the sellers net figure which will be heart breaking, and anyone selling or renewing their insurance will be looking at the big number.
Just thought I'd mention it to add to the GWB recent debates.
Knocked down at $66,000 NZ.
Currencies direct translated this to ยฃ34,957 but with the auctioneers 17.5% plus GST of 15% Import duty of 5% and flight logistics shipping and insurance circa ยฃ900 this would have cost a UK buyer around ยฃ44,500 give or take.
As almost all of the interest via the internet and phone lines was from overseas it's a fair bet it's coming home but if someone local to the auction bought it they would save the duties and shipping fees of about ยฃ2600.
So, no doubt the low ballers will be quoting the hammer price or even the sellers net figure which will be heart breaking, and anyone selling or renewing their insurance will be looking at the big number.
Just thought I'd mention it to add to the GWB recent debates.
|
|
|
|
ab3
New Member
Posts โข 325
Likes โข 533
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by ab3 on Apr 12, 2018 8:23:47 GMT 1, Knocked down at $66,000 NZ. Currencies direct translated this to ยฃ34,957 but with the auctioneers 17.5% plus GST of 15% Import duty of 5% and flight logistics shipping and insurance circa ยฃ900 this would have cost a UK buyer around ยฃ44,500 give or take. As almost all of the interest via the internet and phone lines was from overseas it's a fair bet it's coming home but if someone local to the auction bought it they would save the duties and shipping fees of about ยฃ2600. So, no doubt the low ballers will be quoting the hammer price or even the sellers net figure which will be heart breaking, and anyone selling or renewing their insurance will be looking at the big number. Just thought I'd mention it to add to the Girl With Balloon recent debates.
It's interesting that even with a recent sale price there is no definitive 'what's it worth' price.
I'm sure that if I quote ยฃ44,500 to my insurance company as the price that it cost someone to buy one of these, they would argue and only pay out ยฃ34,957.
I wonder if there is some industry standard to work out the actual price. Maybe take an average of both prices. In which case it's ยฃ39,728.50.
Knocked down at $66,000 NZ. Currencies direct translated this to ยฃ34,957 but with the auctioneers 17.5% plus GST of 15% Import duty of 5% and flight logistics shipping and insurance circa ยฃ900 this would have cost a UK buyer around ยฃ44,500 give or take. As almost all of the interest via the internet and phone lines was from overseas it's a fair bet it's coming home but if someone local to the auction bought it they would save the duties and shipping fees of about ยฃ2600. So, no doubt the low ballers will be quoting the hammer price or even the sellers net figure which will be heart breaking, and anyone selling or renewing their insurance will be looking at the big number. Just thought I'd mention it to add to the Girl With Balloon recent debates. It's interesting that even with a recent sale price there is no definitive 'what's it worth' price. I'm sure that if I quote ยฃ44,500 to my insurance company as the price that it cost someone to buy one of these, they would argue and only pay out ยฃ34,957. I wonder if there is some industry standard to work out the actual price. Maybe take an average of both prices. In which case it's ยฃ39,728.50. |
|
Poppy Sunshine
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,700
Likes โข 324
January 2008
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 12, 2018 8:30:01 GMT 1, It would save so much argument if the simple old industry standard always applied..........
ie. If the buyer is happy to pay whatever the seller wants - then everyone is happy !! (except for all the people who are nothing to do with the deal chipping in and jumping up and down in the background) 
It would save so much argument if the simple old industry standard always applied.......... ie. If the buyer is happy to pay whatever the seller wants - then everyone is happy !! (except for all the people who are nothing to do with the deal chipping in and jumping up and down in the background) |
|
ab3
New Member
Posts โข 325
Likes โข 533
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by ab3 on Apr 12, 2018 9:26:18 GMT 1, It would save so much argument if the simple old industry standard always applied.......... ie. If the buyer is happy to pay whatever the seller wants - then everyone is happy !! (except for all the people who are nothing to do with the deal chipping in and jumping up and down in the background)
It would save so much argument if the simple old industry standard always applied.......... ie. If the buyer is happy to pay whatever the seller wants - then everyone is happy !! (except for all the people who are nothing to do with the deal chipping in and jumping up and down in the background) But should auction fee's etc. be taken into account and added to the 'what's it worth' price? |
|
withnail69
New Member
Posts โข 530
Likes โข 389
April 2018
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by withnail69 on Apr 16, 2018 15:24:42 GMT 1, Hello everyone. Wow that seems incredibly cheap to me.. An unsigned one just sold in France for about 100k euros and didn't one sell in the states for close to 100k in December. Seems insane to have sold it in NZ if thats the consequences...
Source = www.artnet.com/artists/banksy/girl-with-balloon-7EwVoi6qKPD2IZds5F_ArQ2
|
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 15:35:30 GMT 1,
I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed.
I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. |
|
withnail69
New Member
Posts โข 530
Likes โข 389
April 2018
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by withnail69 on Apr 16, 2018 16:23:50 GMT 1, I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed.
I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. Sorry I meant un-numbered |
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:27:38 GMT 1, I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. Sorry I meant un-numberedย
The Digard print was outside of the main edition hence unnumbered.
I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. Sorry I meant un-numberedย The Digard print was outside of the main edition hence unnumbered. |
|
irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by irl1 on Apr 16, 2018 17:49:09 GMT 1, I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. Sorry I meant un-numbered
I presume the link you sttached was for the sale in France you referenced, if so, that print was signed. Sorry I meant un-numbered Yes it was signed, dated and "dedicated" to a lady by Banksy. She is sending some of the sale proceeds down to the children in Palestine. It also had a COA |
|
|
|
withnail69
New Member
Posts โข 530
Likes โข 389
April 2018
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by withnail69 on Apr 17, 2018 9:48:46 GMT 1, So do you agreed that 35k is a steal. Assuming it was in good condition. I probably would have bought that as an investment if I had known it would be so cheap
So do you agreed that 35k is a steal. Assuming it was in good condition. I probably would have bought that as an investment if I had known it would be so cheap
|
|
irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Lot 0013 Girl with red balloon , by irl1 on Apr 17, 2018 13:54:33 GMT 1, So do you agreed that 35k is a steal. Assuming it was in good condition. I probably would have bought that as an investment if I had known it would be so cheap
So do you agreed that 35k is a steal. Assuming it was in good condition. I probably would have bought that as an investment if I had known it would be so cheap That's why i posted this thread in the first place. Being where it was getting sold i thought it would be below what it should be |
|
