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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 22:17:31 GMT 1, I didn’t think Anyone did buy from them! They price stik at 300% of correct market price.
Extremely rich Msn apparently and simply doesn’t give a f**k
I didn’t think Anyone did buy from them! They price stik at 300% of correct market price.
Extremely rich Msn apparently and simply doesn’t give a f**k
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Aubrey 245
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Aubrey 245 on Apr 11, 2018 22:35:06 GMT 1, Sorry to hear that.. I have never dealt with them, I just know their prices are way above market value sometimes..
What happened in the end? Got your Kunstrasen or a refund?
Sorry to hear that.. I have never dealt with them, I just know their prices are way above market value sometimes..
What happened in the end? Got your Kunstrasen or a refund?
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Zippy on Apr 11, 2018 22:44:15 GMT 1, If you were looking for a kunsrasen canvas, why not reach out on here first? Kronsbein are useless and not worth paying a premium to buy from them. And do not fall for anyone who advertises on this forum. Paddle8 do and they had me over on a piece i sold. Go with a trusted seller on here. I always find its great communication and quick delivery.
If you were looking for a kunsrasen canvas, why not reach out on here first? Kronsbein are useless and not worth paying a premium to buy from them. And do not fall for anyone who advertises on this forum. Paddle8 do and they had me over on a piece i sold. Go with a trusted seller on here. I always find its great communication and quick delivery.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Dexter Bulldog on Apr 11, 2018 23:00:35 GMT 1, They suck I once asked about a stik and they wouldn’t even tell me the price. They needed proof of who I was and what art I owned or some utter bullshit because they “can’t just give this information out to anyone”
I need to find the response it was so bad, I just ignored them after a few back and forth and would never deal with them ever.
Plenty of better dealers around. Don’t waste your time with these over priced clowns.
They suck I once asked about a stik and they wouldn’t even tell me the price. They needed proof of who I was and what art I owned or some utter bullshit because they “can’t just give this information out to anyone”
I need to find the response it was so bad, I just ignored them after a few back and forth and would never deal with them ever.
Plenty of better dealers around. Don’t waste your time with these over priced clowns.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by bjoern on Apr 11, 2018 23:17:42 GMT 1, They have listed a Box Set with a broken stone for 3k and don't mention it... or ask for an Invader LED 12k, that's not about doing business it's simply fraud. Enough said.
They have listed a Box Set with a broken stone for 3k and don't mention it... or ask for an Invader LED 12k, that's not about doing business it's simply fraud. Enough said.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Unica on Apr 11, 2018 23:48:41 GMT 1, I will preface this by saying that I've purchased original art pieces from galleries all over the world. Mostly original paintings and sculptures from all over Europe. They've almost all arrived on time and in good condition. England, France, Germany, UAE (Dubai), Spain. I've received a crate from almost every country on earth. I've met so many amazing gallery owners and employees. Never had a real problem with one. Until today. It all started when I reached out to Galerie Kronsbein to inquire about an original Kunstrasen canvas. As they are a partner of UAA and advertise at the top of the page, I trusted them. Big mistake. Red flag #1:It took a gallery employee over a week to respond. His name is Valeri Lalov and he claims to have a M.A. He said thank you for the interest and he'd get back to me right away (hilarious lol). I sent two more follow up emails. No response. I finally ended up buying the piece for full price even though it was way overpriced. I was sick of dealing with them and just wanted them to ship the piece as soon as possible. I added it to my cart and checked out via their online store and sent immediate payment of over $1000. Another big mistake. In my experience it takes a professional gallery about 3 days to ship something internationally. Sometimes as many as 5 to 7 days, but in those special cases the galleries always let me know what's going on through constant communication. Emails, phone calls, whatever. Again I understand that things happen and shipping to the USA can be difficult. But a small canvas piece like this one should have taken a professional gallery less than 48 hours to crate and ship. Very basic stuff. Red flag #2:Over a week later Valeri finally emails me back. He calls me Dan (my name is Dave) and proceeds to mention an additional shipping cost on top of what I already paid. Again, I understand additional shipping costs but those things need to be communicated in a better way. And done within a reasonable amount of time. I told him to either ship me the piece for what I paid or send me a full refund. No response for 8 days. Red Flag #3:14 DAYS after I sent payment and still no tracking number or refund. Or an email to let me know the status of the order. I sent another email to Valeri threatening to report them to PayPal if they don't send me my painting or my money back. I also sent the same email via direct messages to the gallery's instagram page. I finally got a response from both Valeri and the gallery owner himself Dirk Kronsbein: Valeri said he was "sorry for the unpleasant experience" but that buying Art from a gallery is "not like buying something from Amazon". Yeah, if somebody took over 14 days to ship an item that was in stock they'd probably be kicked off the marketplace. They'd also have terrible reviews for their awful customer service. Dirk Kronsbein didn't apologize at all. Just told me to stop threatening his gallery. Worst gallery owner I've ever dealt with. His whole operation is a joke. Extremely rude and unprofessional. Don't buy anything from Galerie Kronsbein. They are the worst gallery in Europe! This sounds awful, thanks for the warning.
I will preface this by saying that I've purchased original art pieces from galleries all over the world. Mostly original paintings and sculptures from all over Europe. They've almost all arrived on time and in good condition. England, France, Germany, UAE (Dubai), Spain. I've received a crate from almost every country on earth. I've met so many amazing gallery owners and employees. Never had a real problem with one. Until today. It all started when I reached out to Galerie Kronsbein to inquire about an original Kunstrasen canvas. As they are a partner of UAA and advertise at the top of the page, I trusted them. Big mistake. Red flag #1:It took a gallery employee over a week to respond. His name is Valeri Lalov and he claims to have a M.A. He said thank you for the interest and he'd get back to me right away (hilarious lol). I sent two more follow up emails. No response. I finally ended up buying the piece for full price even though it was way overpriced. I was sick of dealing with them and just wanted them to ship the piece as soon as possible. I added it to my cart and checked out via their online store and sent immediate payment of over $1000. Another big mistake. In my experience it takes a professional gallery about 3 days to ship something internationally. Sometimes as many as 5 to 7 days, but in those special cases the galleries always let me know what's going on through constant communication. Emails, phone calls, whatever. Again I understand that things happen and shipping to the USA can be difficult. But a small canvas piece like this one should have taken a professional gallery less than 48 hours to crate and ship. Very basic stuff. Red flag #2:Over a week later Valeri finally emails me back. He calls me Dan (my name is Dave) and proceeds to mention an additional shipping cost on top of what I already paid. Again, I understand additional shipping costs but those things need to be communicated in a better way. And done within a reasonable amount of time. I told him to either ship me the piece for what I paid or send me a full refund. No response for 8 days. Red Flag #3:14 DAYS after I sent payment and still no tracking number or refund. Or an email to let me know the status of the order. I sent another email to Valeri threatening to report them to PayPal if they don't send me my painting or my money back. I also sent the same email via direct messages to the gallery's instagram page. I finally got a response from both Valeri and the gallery owner himself Dirk Kronsbein: Valeri said he was "sorry for the unpleasant experience" but that buying Art from a gallery is "not like buying something from Amazon". Yeah, if somebody took over 14 days to ship an item that was in stock they'd probably be kicked off the marketplace. They'd also have terrible reviews for their awful customer service. Dirk Kronsbein didn't apologize at all. Just told me to stop threatening his gallery. Worst gallery owner I've ever dealt with. His whole operation is a joke. Extremely rude and unprofessional. Don't buy anything from Galerie Kronsbein. They are the worst gallery in Europe! This sounds awful, thanks for the warning.
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Laugh Now 10
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Laugh Now 10 on Apr 11, 2018 23:58:37 GMT 1, Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno.
Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by cmc on Apr 12, 2018 2:52:03 GMT 1, Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid.
Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Laugh Now 10 on Apr 12, 2018 2:59:53 GMT 1, Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid.
ok, please explain your statement. I’m curious. so, you think it’s equitable for the UAA to knowingly allow a “non-reputable” Gallery to openly advertise on this site while knowing that more novice collectors may rely on this “unofficial endorsement” and enter into business arrangements with such a Gallery. doesn’t the UAA owe a duty to its members to not mislead us into shady dealings?
Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid. ok, please explain your statement. I’m curious. so, you think it’s equitable for the UAA to knowingly allow a “non-reputable” Gallery to openly advertise on this site while knowing that more novice collectors may rely on this “unofficial endorsement” and enter into business arrangements with such a Gallery. doesn’t the UAA owe a duty to its members to not mislead us into shady dealings?
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by cmc on Apr 12, 2018 3:15:38 GMT 1, If an advertiser was known to be breaking the law and had been charged yes I agree they should be banned. If thats not the case then the rest is just conjecture.
If an advertiser was known to be breaking the law and had been charged yes I agree they should be banned. If thats not the case then the rest is just conjecture.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Dahmer on Apr 12, 2018 7:26:55 GMT 1, I have never even clicked any of the links at the above but thanks for posting, sounds terrible.
Did you ever get a refund, or the canvas?
I have never even clicked any of the links at the above but thanks for posting, sounds terrible.
Did you ever get a refund, or the canvas?
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 17:11:56 GMT 1, That video is so Maddox gallery!
That video is so Maddox gallery!
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by nobokov on Apr 13, 2018 17:24:37 GMT 1, Thanks for the warning. Another gallery off my list V1 and now this one.
Thanks for the warning. Another gallery off my list V1 and now this one.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Rouen Cathedral on Apr 13, 2018 17:34:22 GMT 1, If they have Bambi there's no way they can't be legit!
If they have Bambi there's no way they can't be legit!
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by cyberkid on Apr 13, 2018 18:39:06 GMT 1, they made a show called "bambi - the queen of urban art" last week...do I have to write more ?
seriously, very sorry to read this. kronsbein and his team are not proffessional art dealers or gallery managers...
they made a show called "bambi - the queen of urban art" last week...do I have to write more ?
seriously, very sorry to read this. kronsbein and his team are not proffessional art dealers or gallery managers...
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 19:14:37 GMT 1, I find the whole bambi thing hilarious. It just shows most art buyers do what galleries tell them to do when buying. Mainly to invest or hide crooked money..
Kronsbein and Jospeh fine art are pushing her hard and have the money and client list to generate sales.
Insert Maddox as the next bambi supporter..
It would be bareable if she wasn’t such a god awful singer too!!
Incredible!
I find the whole bambi thing hilarious. It just shows most art buyers do what galleries tell them to do when buying. Mainly to invest or hide crooked money..
Kronsbein and Jospeh fine art are pushing her hard and have the money and client list to generate sales.
Insert Maddox as the next bambi supporter..
It would be bareable if she wasn’t such a god awful singer too!!
Incredible!
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by WOOF on Apr 13, 2018 19:29:40 GMT 1, I almost feel bad for those collectors.
I almost feel bad for those collectors.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by galaxy01 on Apr 13, 2018 19:52:20 GMT 1, Any business owner who's first reponse is 'hold it, stop threatening us' is a very bad businessman. He should accept a customer is unhappy and try to make them happy, nothing more to it.
Happy to avoid that gallery, don't have time for a service like that. And always someone on here to deal with
Any business owner who's first reponse is 'hold it, stop threatening us' is a very bad businessman. He should accept a customer is unhappy and try to make them happy, nothing more to it. Happy to avoid that gallery, don't have time for a service like that. And always someone on here to deal with
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 20:25:13 GMT 1, For those not overly fimiliar with Kronsbein
Stik liberty - £27000 (nuff said)
For those not overly fimiliar with Kronsbein
Stik liberty - £27000 (nuff said)
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by bradk on Apr 13, 2018 22:26:13 GMT 1, "hold it, stop threatening us"!!
hahaha.....your literally joking me right!!!
Brilliant
"hold it, stop threatening us"!!
hahaha.....your literally joking me right!!!
Brilliant
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Daniel Silk on Apr 14, 2018 1:33:15 GMT 1, Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid. You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry.
Clearly, the UAA needs to terminate the professional advertising relationship with GK because if the Gallery is allowed to advertise on here it implies, either directly or indirectly, that the UAA supports and has vetted this Gallery. Many potential buyers on here will rely on this “representation” and may suffer damages whether large, small, or otherwise. No bueno. Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid. You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 1:36:50 GMT 1, Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid. You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry. But you could, as a website, make a moral judgement about the kind of advertisers you want on your website. I'm sure UAA wouldn't allow a guy creating nazi-art to advertise on here. So if a gallery gets a lot of bad ratings, it's a moral question if you should be directing people that like art to them.
Also hurray for adblockers, I've never seen ads on here.
Thats not really how advertising works i'm afraid. You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry. But you could, as a website, make a moral judgement about the kind of advertisers you want on your website. I'm sure UAA wouldn't allow a guy creating nazi-art to advertise on here. So if a gallery gets a lot of bad ratings, it's a moral question if you should be directing people that like art to them. Also hurray for adblockers, I've never seen ads on here.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by sanssouci on Apr 14, 2018 7:05:30 GMT 1, You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry. But you could, as a website, make a moral judgement about the kind of advertisers you want on your website. I'm sure UAA wouldn't allow a guy creating nazi-art to advertise on here. So if a gallery gets a lot of bad ratings, it's a moral question if you should be directing people that like art to them. Also hurray for adblockers, I've never seen ads on here.
I have been 2 times at the gallery and they were very friendly. They gave me a STIK book for free. The prices are far beyond anything and my personal impression is, that they don‘t have to sell. Maybe only for tax reasons to justify the private collection of the owner. I am not a fan of this gallery and would never buy there ...
But from my personal point of view, this has nothing to do with advertising on the forum. If we would like to use it for free, we have to accept advertising. That‘s a fair deal and they don‘t sell Nazi-art and as far as I know, the STIK easter-eggs were for charity (although copyright violation and therefore not okay).
You can easily find unsatisfied customers for every Gallery, Artist or any Product or Company you can think of, so it’s not something that can be blamed on websites they choose to advertise on. Sorry. But you could, as a website, make a moral judgement about the kind of advertisers you want on your website. I'm sure UAA wouldn't allow a guy creating nazi-art to advertise on here. So if a gallery gets a lot of bad ratings, it's a moral question if you should be directing people that like art to them. Also hurray for adblockers, I've never seen ads on here. I have been 2 times at the gallery and they were very friendly. They gave me a STIK book for free. The prices are far beyond anything and my personal impression is, that they don‘t have to sell. Maybe only for tax reasons to justify the private collection of the owner. I am not a fan of this gallery and would never buy there ... But from my personal point of view, this has nothing to do with advertising on the forum. If we would like to use it for free, we have to accept advertising. That‘s a fair deal and they don‘t sell Nazi-art and as far as I know, the STIK easter-eggs were for charity (although copyright violation and therefore not okay).
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by oxfordwelshchap on Apr 14, 2018 21:42:40 GMT 1, Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at this gallery recently. Now I know better.
Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at this gallery recently. Now I know better.
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Dont Buy From Galerie Kronsbein! The Worst Gallery in Europe, by Cookiemonster on Apr 14, 2018 21:52:03 GMT 1, For those not overly fimiliar with Kronsbein Stik liberty - £27000 (nuff said) what do you expect, they sold a gwb ap for €140k soon after getting one!!!
For those not overly fimiliar with Kronsbein Stik liberty - £27000 (nuff said) what do you expect, they sold a gwb ap for €140k soon after getting one!!!
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