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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by eyectopus on Jul 4, 2018 19:26:45 GMT 1, Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018
Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details:
Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/
Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/ |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by shanuk on Jul 4, 2018 20:48:18 GMT 1, And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k!
And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k!
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Poster Bob on Jul 4, 2018 20:58:12 GMT 1, It's called seasonality. Dump them all in the fall for twice the price you paid while the forum twits scream that the sky is falling.
It's called seasonality. Dump them all in the fall for twice the price you paid while the forum twits scream that the sky is falling.
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Winter on Jul 4, 2018 21:24:18 GMT 1, Wouldn’t personally use Bonhams
Wouldn’t personally use Bonhams
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Happy Shopper on Jul 4, 2018 21:41:33 GMT 1, And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k!
Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller.
Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones.
And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k! Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Poster Bob on Jul 4, 2018 22:06:06 GMT 1, No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more.
And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k! Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones.
No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k! Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 22:11:17 GMT 1, No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones.
Nope
No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones. Nope |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 22:24:17 GMT 1, And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k!
And what happened to those Harland Miller prices? You can rely on me and love conquers nothing went at £6875 and £4000 while incurable romantic went for over £13k! The "Death" went at an absolute bargain price. I had forgotten about this auction unfortunately. Would have picked it up for sure. Hand finished unique print. I'd be super pissed if I were the seller for sure. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by moron on Jul 4, 2018 23:01:29 GMT 1, No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones.
but it didn't
No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. Seem to be fairly average prices for Harland Miller. Check auction results on Philips website... Average around £12-15k for the larger prints... Less for the small ones. but it didn't |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 23:06:15 GMT 1, No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. but it didn't
Welcome to Bonhams bargain buys
where the sellers get less and the buyers leave happy
No, that Death print should have achieved double and the others at least 50% more. but it didn't Welcome to Bonhams bargain buys where the sellers get less and the buyers leave happy |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Harveyn on Jul 4, 2018 23:47:04 GMT 1, Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 2:33:53 GMT 1, Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right?
Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right? |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by shy on Jul 5, 2018 2:38:19 GMT 1, You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction)
The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve.
If there are no takers then the lot is passed.
In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold)
You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction)
The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve.
If there are no takers then the lot is passed.
In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold)
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by kfroms on Jul 5, 2018 9:55:56 GMT 1, You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction) The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve. If there are no takers then the lot is passed. In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold)
You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction) The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve. If there are no takers then the lot is passed. In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold) Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 10:23:32 GMT 1, You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction) The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve. If there are no takers then the lot is passed. In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold) Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!!
I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks.....
You are allowed to place reserves on your art. (Same thing with standardbred or thoroughbred horses at auction) The auction house will bid up your art and hope to catch some buyers who will ring in a price over the reserve. If there are no takers then the lot is passed. In some auction houses you will be charges a commission even if the lots is passed (not sold) Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks..... |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by campfire headphase on Jul 5, 2018 14:14:45 GMT 1, Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
This is why I keep saying, never auction during the summer. Spring and fall are always best. Also, consigning to Gallery is good too. They usually take 10% where as some auctions will take up to 20% from you.
Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018 Two Banksy prints were in today's auction. The below are the details: Banksy U/S Golf Sale (PC COA) with condition issues. Sold for £ 6,875 (€ 7,802) inc. premium. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/273/Banksy Signed Monkey Queen Gift Print (PC COA). Sold for £ 11,250 (€ 12,768) inc. premium. Seems like a very good price, but I am not sure of the condition. www.bonhams.com/auctions/24644/lot/274/
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
This is why I keep saying, never auction during the summer. Spring and fall are always best. Also, consigning to Gallery is good too. They usually take 10% where as some auctions will take up to 20% from you. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by campfire headphase on Jul 5, 2018 14:16:35 GMT 1,
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right?
Yeah, but psychologically when it comes to buying, more auctions get passed if the reserve is too high. Lowering it entices bidding.
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right? Yeah, but psychologically when it comes to buying, more auctions get passed if the reserve is too high. Lowering it entices bidding. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by gd79 on Jul 5, 2018 14:51:00 GMT 1, Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks.....
Damn fool. I always put mine on eBay. You need good photos though. Or just freeze the sperm
Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks..... Damn fool. I always put mine on eBay. You need good photos though. Or just freeze the sperm |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 16:05:16 GMT 1, Can you explain the seasonality of auctions to me, please? I'm considering selling my Banksy 'Chocolate Donuts' (I know it's not everyone's favourite, but I like it) and have been offered what sound like good terms from a big auction house for a sale in September. Recent sale prices make me wonder if now is a bad time and I should hold on to it, but a few people seem to be saying autumn is better.
It's my first time selling any art of major value (I bought the print from Pictures on Walls on release) so it's a bit of a new world to me*.
*This doesn't mean PM me with low-ball offers, thanks all the same.
Can you explain the seasonality of auctions to me, please? I'm considering selling my Banksy 'Chocolate Donuts' (I know it's not everyone's favourite, but I like it) and have been offered what sound like good terms from a big auction house for a sale in September. Recent sale prices make me wonder if now is a bad time and I should hold on to it, but a few people seem to be saying autumn is better.
It's my first time selling any art of major value (I bought the print from Pictures on Walls on release) so it's a bit of a new world to me*.
*This doesn't mean PM me with low-ball offers, thanks all the same.
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 16:07:49 GMT 1, Can you explain the seasonality of auctions to me, please? I'm considering selling my Banksy 'Chocolate Donuts' (I know it's not everyone's favourite, but I like it) and have been offered what sound like good terms from a big auction house for a sale in September. Recent sale prices make me wonder if now is a bad time and I should hold on to it, but a few people seem to be saying autumn is better. It's my first time selling any art of major value (I bought the print from Pictures on Walls on release) so it's a bit of a new world to me*. *This doesn't mean PM me with low-ball offers, thanks all the same.
end of sept is ok, we are all back home from hols, have money as christmas is still a few months off, and its starting to get colder so we are moving back indoors and nesting
dont put it into Bonhams
Also you say you have had good terms from the auction house, lets says it's 10%? We know that the print sells here for say £25-£30k? and the buyers premium at auction will be around 30% so you'll be lucky if anyone bids over £22k, now take off your 10% plus vat plus whatever else and your at £20k. is that how much you want? or are you hoping it will sell at acution for £30k plus buyers premium @30% = £39k?
So are you sure you dont want PMs with offers?
Can you explain the seasonality of auctions to me, please? I'm considering selling my Banksy 'Chocolate Donuts' (I know it's not everyone's favourite, but I like it) and have been offered what sound like good terms from a big auction house for a sale in September. Recent sale prices make me wonder if now is a bad time and I should hold on to it, but a few people seem to be saying autumn is better. It's my first time selling any art of major value (I bought the print from Pictures on Walls on release) so it's a bit of a new world to me*. *This doesn't mean PM me with low-ball offers, thanks all the same. end of sept is ok, we are all back home from hols, have money as christmas is still a few months off, and its starting to get colder so we are moving back indoors and nesting dont put it into Bonhams Also you say you have had good terms from the auction house, lets says it's 10%? We know that the print sells here for say £25-£30k? and the buyers premium at auction will be around 30% so you'll be lucky if anyone bids over £22k, now take off your 10% plus vat plus whatever else and your at £20k. is that how much you want? or are you hoping it will sell at acution for £30k plus buyers premium @30% = £39k? So are you sure you dont want PMs with offers? |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 16:13:07 GMT 1, Ha. Had heard that about Bonhams.
Thanks very much for the reply.
Ha. Had heard that about Bonhams.
Thanks very much for the reply.
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 16:46:19 GMT 1, I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks..... Damn fool. I always put mine on eBay. You need good photos though. Or just freeze the sperm
Seems ive backed another loser😊
I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks..... Damn fool. I always put mine on eBay. You need good photos though. Or just freeze the sperm Seems ive backed another loser😊 |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by moron on Jul 5, 2018 20:53:54 GMT 1, Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks.....
Really? You can place a reserve? Groundbreaking news!! I do it when i sell my thoroughbreds at Newmarket most weeks..... Camels ? |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by moron on Jul 5, 2018 20:59:08 GMT 1,
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right?
If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors.
It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring"
Signed Monkey Queen for £11.2k!!!! At that price it be folded in half and still be a bargain. That will be one might pissed off seller.
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right? I agree and it's amazing how many items sold at auction houses only make the minimum low reserve. If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors. It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring" |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by moron on Jul 5, 2018 21:04:22 GMT 1, Auction seasonality, everyone buggers off on holiday in summer and cant be bothered by expensive art.
Maybe Harland Miller has churned out too many same looking very expensive prints sold to rich people thru galleries in a short space of time and the secondary market isn't there yet.
This sale did have a lot of great prints though and very affordable by blue chip artists. I would have been looking at some of those including deceased artists who are not making any more prints, before spending money on some text on rothko
Auction seasonality, everyone buggers off on holiday in summer and cant be bothered by expensive art.
Maybe Harland Miller has churned out too many same looking very expensive prints sold to rich people thru galleries in a short space of time and the secondary market isn't there yet.
This sale did have a lot of great prints though and very affordable by blue chip artists. I would have been looking at some of those including deceased artists who are not making any more prints, before spending money on some text on rothko
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 21:29:27 GMT 1, Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right? I agree and it's amazing how many items sold at auction houses only make the minimum low reserve. If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors. It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring"
Having never bought or sold on an auction (but might be doing so in the future if I sell one of my Banksy prints), wouldnt you be able to set a minimum price you want to sell for? I really can't imagine Bonhams just going "oh we'll put the minimum price at 10k and see what happens" and selling being like "oh well sure no problem". If you own something that valuable, you should be like..aware of it's value right? I agree and it's amazing how many items sold at auction houses only make the minimum low reserve. If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors. It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring" But why would you ever agree to such a low reserve when selling? If I were to sell like my Pulp Fiction and an auctionhouse would be like, ok we'll put the reserve at 1k, I just..wouldn't sell with them. |
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Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4th July 2018, by moron on Jul 5, 2018 21:33:21 GMT 1, I agree and it's amazing how many items sold at auction houses only make the minimum low reserve. If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors. It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring" But why would you ever agree to such a low reserve when selling? If I were to sell like my Pulp Fiction and an auctionhouse would be like, ok we'll put the reserve at 1k, I just..wouldn't sell with them.
I agree and it's amazing how many items sold at auction houses only make the minimum low reserve. If in doubt attend the auction to confirm your lot was actually auctioned in public not flogged off in private before the auction house opened it's doors. It can also happen that dealers get together and decide not to bid on some items in order to get the item at a low price, as in a "ring" But why would you ever agree to such a low reserve when selling? If I were to sell like my Pulp Fiction and an auctionhouse would be like, ok we'll put the reserve at 1k, I just..wouldn't sell with them. because some people are naive when it comes to auction house staff believing some of the chinless wonders who work there actually know anything about art and act in the interests of the seller. |
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