Guy Denning
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who's the Artist? , by Guy Denning on Aug 12, 2018 11:25:05 GMT 1, I don't think it's a signature. Looks like French for 5 July 46 in the style of Picasso. It's a nice confident drawing; I'd be happy to have it on a wall. Good find! Looks like it might be a copy or faked (or inspired by Picasso). He drew in that style in the 40s. But the fiddly line work at the base certainly gives it away as NOT being a Picasso. In my opinion...
I don't think it's a signature. Looks like French for 5 July 46 in the style of Picasso. It's a nice confident drawing; I'd be happy to have it on a wall. Good find! Looks like it might be a copy or faked (or inspired by Picasso). He drew in that style in the 40s. But the fiddly line work at the base certainly gives it away as NOT being a Picasso. In my opinion...
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Express Post
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January 2008
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who's the Artist? , by Express Post on Aug 12, 2018 11:27:50 GMT 1, Pretty piece!
Looks picassoesque.
Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks    
Pretty piece! Looks picassoesque. Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks |
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 11:27:53 GMT 1, Thanks Guy 
does anyone else have a opinion x
Thanks Guy does anyone else have a opinion x |
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 11:28:59 GMT 1, Thanks Express, yes its stunning x
Thanks Express, yes its stunning x
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 11:36:22 GMT 1, Haha i don't think its a Picasso Guy, I would love to see the artist other work even if it holds no value its still a fiver well spent. x
Haha i don't think its a Picasso Guy, I would love to see the artist other work even if it holds no value its still a fiver well spent. x |
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Guy Denning
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who's the Artist? , by Guy Denning on Aug 12, 2018 11:39:34 GMT 1, Haha i don't think its a Picasso Guy, I would love to see the artist other work even if it holds no value its still a fiver well spent. x It is a winner! I've got a fake Picasso here that I picked up for diddly squat but was beautifully done. West Country Picasso... that's where it's at.
Haha i don't think its a Picasso Guy, I would love to see the artist other work even if it holds no value its still a fiver well spent. x It is a winner! I've got a fake Picasso here that I picked up for diddly squat but was beautifully done. West Country Picasso... that's where it's at.
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Trevorm
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August 2010
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who's the Artist? , by Trevorm on Aug 12, 2018 12:02:29 GMT 1, I like it too. I'd display it as a P/HM collaboration
I like it too. I'd display it as a P/HM collaboration
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kjg
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December 2014
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who's the Artist? , by kjg on Aug 12, 2018 12:44:40 GMT 1, I like it a lot. A good find!
Is it ink on paper? Or pencil?
I like it a lot. A good find!
Is it ink on paper? Or pencil?
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 12:58:03 GMT 1, I like it a lot. A good find! Is it ink on paper? Or pencil?
Thanks, it’s pencil on paper x
I like it a lot. A good find! Is it ink on paper? Or pencil? Thanks, it’s pencil on paper x |
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kjg
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December 2014
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who's the Artist? , by kjg on Aug 12, 2018 12:59:58 GMT 1, I like it a lot. A good find! Is it ink on paper? Or pencil? Thanks, it’s pencil on paper x
Cool! If you ever want to get rid of it, let me know :-)
I like it a lot. A good find! Is it ink on paper? Or pencil? Thanks, it’s pencil on paper x Cool! If you ever want to get rid of it, let me know :-) |
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met
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June 2009
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who's the Artist? , by met on Aug 12, 2018 13:09:16 GMT 1, Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks  [...] I don't think it's a signature. Looks like French for 5 July 46 in the style of Picasso. It's a nice confident drawing; I'd be happy to have it on a wall. Good find! Looks like it might be a copy or faked (or inspired by Picasso). He drew in that style in the 40s. But the fiddly line work at the base certainly gives it away as NOT being a Picasso. In my opinion... [...] Thanks Guy does anyone else have a opinion x
Guy Denning is correct.
The top-left corner states the date of creation in French: 5 juillet 46
This image features Françoise Gilot, Picasso's new companion at the time. It's called Françoise au bandeau (a title also used to refer to a few other works). Pencil on vellum drawing paper.
Part of the collection of the Musée Picasso in Paris. You can search for it here:
www.museepicassoparis.fr/en/search/
There were plenty of other line drawings of Gilot created on the same date and during that period. Google will assist you in finding them.
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The framed work you own may be a generic reproduction.
But if chance has favoured you, or if you chose the right god(s) to pray to, the piece may actually be an authorised lithograph by Fernand Mourlot — and therefore produced in collaboration with the artist.
Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks [...] I don't think it's a signature. Looks like French for 5 July 46 in the style of Picasso. It's a nice confident drawing; I'd be happy to have it on a wall. Good find! Looks like it might be a copy or faked (or inspired by Picasso). He drew in that style in the 40s. But the fiddly line work at the base certainly gives it away as NOT being a Picasso. In my opinion... [...] Thanks Guy does anyone else have a opinion x is correct. The top-left corner states the date of creation in French: 5 juillet 46This image features Françoise Gilot, Picasso's new companion at the time. It's called Françoise au bandeau (a title also used to refer to a few other works). Pencil on vellum drawing paper. Part of the collection of the Musée Picasso in Paris. You can search for it here: www.museepicassoparis.fr/en/search/There were plenty of other line drawings of Gilot created on the same date and during that period. Google will assist you in finding them. __________ The framed work you own may be a generic reproduction. But if chance has favoured you, or if you chose the right god(s) to pray to, the piece may actually be an authorised lithograph by Fernand Mourlot — and therefore produced in collaboration with the artist. |
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 13:13:01 GMT 1, Wow thanks Met, really useful information. I don’t know much outside of urban art thanks for the info x
Wow thanks Met, really useful information. I don’t know much outside of urban art thanks for the info x
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Extra Ball
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February 2014
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who's the Artist? , by Extra Ball on Aug 12, 2018 13:30:44 GMT 1, What are the dimensions?
110 X 91.50 cms?
What are the dimensions?
110 X 91.50 cms?
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 13:41:48 GMT 1, What are the dimensions? 110 X 91.50 cms?
I don’t know sorry it’s quite big x
What are the dimensions? 110 X 91.50 cms? I don’t know sorry it’s quite big x |
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Extra Ball
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who's the Artist? , by Extra Ball on Aug 12, 2018 13:50:24 GMT 1, What are the dimensions? 110 X 91.50 cms? I don’t know sorry it’s quite big x
I do not think it's a pencil on paper, difficult to say without seeing it, but in any case it is superb!
Congratulations.
What are the dimensions? 110 X 91.50 cms? I don’t know sorry it’s quite big x it may be a silkscreen after a drawing of 1946 on paper velin d'arches 300g / m2. I do not think it's a pencil on paper, difficult to say without seeing it, but in any case it is superb! Congratulations. |
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Dive Jedi
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who's the Artist? , by Dive Jedi on Aug 12, 2018 14:01:25 GMT 1, Speaking about finding stuff;
I was looking for an empty tube at my parents house to ship a print.
While going through a bunch of them I found this in one of them…..
Appears to be a commemorative print of some sort?
My mom went: "Ah, you found the Picasso. Was wondering where that was!"
Speaking about finding stuff; I was looking for an empty tube at my parents house to ship a print. While going through a bunch of them I found this in one of them….. Appears to be a commemorative print of some sort? My mom went: "Ah, you found the Picasso. Was wondering where that was!" |
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who's the Artist? , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 12, 2018 14:54:17 GMT 1, Have you looked at the back or what's behind the matte?
Is it pencil or a print.
Possibly an Elmyr or similar forgery.
Have you looked at the back or what's behind the matte?
Is it pencil or a print.
Possibly an Elmyr or similar forgery.
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Whitefish
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February 2015
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who's the Artist? , by Whitefish on Aug 12, 2018 15:50:49 GMT 1, Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks
UNFRAME IT
Hello, i bought this beauty from my local charity shop does anyone on here know who the artist is? I cannot make out the signature. It came professionally framed. I'd love to see the Artist other works, can anyone help? I really appreciate it. Also i know this doesn't fall into the category for urban art. Thanks UNFRAME IT |
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 16:53:20 GMT 1, Ok, so I unframed it and now i'm just as confused, it was difficult to unframe and had many protected layers. Its not pencil at all it must be printed. Also the thin print has been stuck down with some type of glue on card i think to protect it its very thinly printed. It smells very odd like old books. ![]()
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kjg
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December 2014
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who's the Artist? , by kjg on Aug 12, 2018 18:15:31 GMT 1, What's on the back?
And what says the small sticker on the back of the frame?
What's on the back?
And what says the small sticker on the back of the frame?
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 18:30:39 GMT 1,
warning poem
its stuck to cardboard
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moron
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September 2017
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who's the Artist? , by moron on Aug 13, 2018 14:16:15 GMT 1, So it's before 1999 at least as thats when 01 numbers stopped being used in London. It looks like a good quality print more than likely produced under licence by a company.
I imagine all the Mourlot prints would be annotated and numbered and maybe on different paper.
I'd keep it. Hang it on the wall and enjoy it.
So it's before 1999 at least as thats when 01 numbers stopped being used in London. It looks like a good quality print more than likely produced under licence by a company.
I imagine all the Mourlot prints would be annotated and numbered and maybe on different paper.
I'd keep it. Hang it on the wall and enjoy it.
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Gurn
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August 2007
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who's the Artist? , by Gurn on Aug 13, 2018 14:48:46 GMT 1, Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction?
Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction?
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who's the Artist? , by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 15:07:48 GMT 1, Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction?
Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction? No idea Gurn. I have a offer for 200Euros but i realised how much i missed it with it being out of the frame and placed in another room, i'd be interested in buying the other prints of the set, but like i said no idea where to find them. x |
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Gurn
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who's the Artist? , by Gurn on Aug 13, 2018 15:19:43 GMT 1, Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction? No idea Gurn. I have a offer for 200Euros but i realised how much i missed it with it being out of the frame and placed in another room, i'd be interested in buying the other prints of the set, but like i said no idea where to find them. x Some of the SPADEM prints were embossed, some have the relevant information on the back. Your print appears to be dry mounted which potentially means that the information, if any, is hidden/lost. No idea if this is one.
Either way, this is a nice find.
As others have said, re-frame it, put it on the wall and enjoy it.
Watermark looks like 'Arches', so decent quality paper. Possible S.P.A.D.E.M edition/reproduction? No idea Gurn. I have a offer for 200Euros but i realised how much i missed it with it being out of the frame and placed in another room, i'd be interested in buying the other prints of the set, but like i said no idea where to find them. x Some of the SPADEM prints were embossed, some have the relevant information on the back. Your print appears to be dry mounted which potentially means that the information, if any, is hidden/lost. No idea if this is one.
Either way, this is a nice find.
As others have said, re-frame it, put it on the wall and enjoy it.
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met
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who's the Artist? , by met on Aug 13, 2018 17:12:47 GMT 1, Wow thanks Met, really useful information. I don’t know much outside of urban art thanks for the info x
No problem.
Although the studio had long-since moved, I used to live on the same street as the early premises of Atelier Mourlot — rue de Chabrol in the 10th arrondissement of Paris. It's interesting to consider all the artists who would have spent extended periods of time there: Picasso, Matisse, Braque, Bonnard, Miró et al.
Robert Doisneau has a vast body of work, but one of my favourites among his images is a 1952 photo he took of Françoise Gilot and Picasso:
Ok, so I unframed it and now i'm just as confused, it was difficult to unframe and had many protected layers. Its not pencil at all it must be printed. Also the thin print has been stuck down with some type of glue on card i think to protect it its very thinly printed. It smells very odd like old books. [...]  [...]
Not a lithograph, I'm afraid. [In your earlier shots with the frame, it wasn't clear whether there might just be a mat on top of the work.]
This is an offset lithograph, or possibly a screenprint. Most likely uneditioned and unofficial.
For reference, here are two examples showing what the paper looks like with Mourlot lithographs of images Picasso drew of Gilot:
Wow thanks Met, really useful information. I don’t know much outside of urban art thanks for the info x No problem. Although the studio had long-since moved, I used to live on the same street as the early premises of Atelier Mourlot — rue de Chabrol in the 10th arrondissement of Paris. It's interesting to consider all the artists who would have spent extended periods of time there: Picasso, Matisse, Braque, Bonnard, Miró et al. Robert Doisneau has a vast body of work, but one of my favourites among his images is a 1952 photo he took of Françoise Gilot and Picasso: Ok, so I unframed it and now i'm just as confused, it was difficult to unframe and had many protected layers. Its not pencil at all it must be printed. Also the thin print has been stuck down with some type of glue on card i think to protect it its very thinly printed. It smells very odd like old books. [...] [...] Not a lithograph, I'm afraid. [In your earlier shots with the frame, it wasn't clear whether there might just be a mat on top of the work.] This is an offset lithograph, or possibly a screenprint. Most likely uneditioned and unofficial. For reference, here are two examples showing what the paper looks like with Mourlot lithographs of images Picasso drew of Gilot: |
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printminx
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who's the Artist? , by printminx on Aug 13, 2018 18:09:58 GMT 1, Hi really impressed by the knowledge of the members and their advice......
now I too picked up a print about 5 years ago in a charity shop, it stopped me in my tracks and I had to have it. Have had reframed as frame falling apart and no help or writing on reverse of print. I have spent weeks trying to find out who made it but as I can't decipher the signature I havnt got anywhere. I have asked printmakers and even wrote to the British Museum but no reply. Anyone got any ideas? I thought it might be something to do with Cuba and protest posters but still no luck. I think its a lino cut as you can see those little lines where the cut out sections show the grooves of the cutters but I could be wrong. This is my first post.
Robert Frost October
Hi really impressed by the knowledge of the members and their advice...... now I too picked up a print about 5 years ago in a charity shop, it stopped me in my tracks and I had to have it. Have had reframed as frame falling apart and no help or writing on reverse of print. I have spent weeks trying to find out who made it but as I can't decipher the signature I havnt got anywhere. I have asked printmakers and even wrote to the British Museum but no reply. Anyone got any ideas? I thought it might be something to do with Cuba and protest posters but still no luck. I think its a lino cut as you can see those little lines where the cut out sections show the grooves of the cutters but I could be wrong. This is my first post. Robert Frost October |
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kjg
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who's the Artist? , by kjg on Aug 13, 2018 18:42:06 GMT 1, It looks more like the flag from former Csechoslowakia to me:
The title reads something like: 'Der Sieg', which is German for 'The Win'. Maybe it has something to do with Charter 77?
It looks more like the flag from former Csechoslowakia to me:
The title reads something like: 'Der Sieg', which is German for 'The Win'. Maybe it has something to do with Charter 77?
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printminx
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February 2018
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who's the Artist? , by printminx on Aug 13, 2018 18:54:17 GMT 1, Thankx for the info... I will have a look along those lines.
Thankx for the info... I will have a look along those lines.
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Poly Mindset
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March 2014
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who's the Artist? , by Poly Mindset on Oct 17, 2018 0:57:31 GMT 1, 
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