oldejames
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by oldejames on May 24, 2021 19:28:42 GMT 1, ON HOLD. Let everyone know if sale does not go thru!
FOR SALE:
Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print
60 x 50 cm
23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches
Edition of 50 + 5 AP
Signed and numbered on the back
Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions. Have original email receipt.
Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass.
Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso.
Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50.
Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping.
Asking $6,000 OBO. In no rush to sell.
Please DM for actual images of work!
ON HOLD. Let everyone know if sale does not go thru! FOR SALE: Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print 60 x 50 cm 23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches Edition of 50 + 5 AP Signed and numbered on the back Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions. Have original email receipt. Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass. Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso. Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50. Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping. Asking $6,000 OBO. In no rush to sell. Please DM for actual images of work!
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astbury
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by astbury on May 24, 2021 20:43:58 GMT 1, Some first post!
Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair
FOR SALE: Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print 60 x 50 cm 23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches Edition of 50 + 5 AP Signed and numbered on the back Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions.ย Have original email receipt. Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass. Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso.ย Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50. Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping. Asking $6,000 OBO.ย In no rush to sell. Please DM for actual images of work!
Some first post! Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair FOR SALE: Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print 60 x 50 cm 23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches Edition of 50 + 5 AP Signed and numbered on the back Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions.ย Have original email receipt. Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass. Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso.ย Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50. Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping. Asking $6,000 OBO.ย In no rush to sell. Please DM for actual images of work!
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ianarts
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by ianarts on May 24, 2021 21:01:33 GMT 1, Beautiful print!
Beautiful print!
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met
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by met on May 25, 2021 5:54:01 GMT 1, FOR SALE: Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print 60 x 50 cm 23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches Edition of 50 + 5 AP Signed and numbered on the back Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions. Have original email receipt. Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass. Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso. Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50. Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping. Asking $6,000 OBO. In no rush to sell. Please DM for actual images of work!
Quoted for posterity.
FOR SALE: Genieve Figgis "Heracles and Omphale (after Franรงois Boucher)" (2017) Archival pigment print 60 x 50 cm 23 5/8 x 19 5/8 inches Edition of 50 + 5 AP Signed and numbered on the back Purchased directly from Almine Rech Editions. Have original email receipt. Work is float framed with UltraVue UV70 Anti-Reflective Glass. Not sure edition number as it's signed / numbered on verso. Can remove frame for shipping and let interested parties know number out of 50. Located in Los Angeles--ideally would prefer local pickup, but as mentioned can remove frame for shipping. Asking $6,000 OBO. In no rush to sell. Please DM for actual images of work! Quoted for posterity.
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met
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by met on May 25, 2021 7:24:52 GMT 1, Some first post!Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair [...]
Granted, astbury, it's a new account. But does it read like a first post?
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oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum.
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To potential buyers, especially less experienced ones, some tips for protecting yourselves:
1. Try having at least one of the initial discussions via Skype or Zoom, rather than relying exclusively on more anonymous written or telephone communications โ to get a better feel for the seller, by seeing if they're pleasant, forthcoming, and otherwise demonstrating good faith.
2. As a precautionary measure for higher-value transactions, consider asking for a seller's proof of identity (e.g. valid passport) and perhaps even physical address (e.g. recent utility bill).
3. Google the seller โ their name, telephone number, email address, home or work address โ to check whether they have a reassuring presence online (which may help to rule out the possibility they've given you a fake name or pseudonym, along with a burner phone number and email account).
4. Get the seller's references for some of their previous sales, and follow them up.
5. Find out in advance what provenance or authenticity documentation will accompany the art being sold, to ensure you're comfortable with it.
6. Where possible, verify the art's purported provenance and ownership title.
7. Insist on a detailed description of the condition of the art, accompanied by clear, high-res photographs (front, back, sides, and some at an angle in natural, raking light), with a particular emphasis on any damage, however minor โ tears, marks, surface dirt, scuffing, abrasions, cracked paint or ink, pigment loss, water stains, foxing, discolouration, light damage, mount damage, skinning, adhesive residue, handling creases, rolling creases, corner dents, buckling, trimming, etc.
8. Request information about any restoration work carried out on the piece โ including professional flattening, which can slightly discolour a work on paper, alter its surface texture and (if very carelessly done) also flatten out a blind stamp.
9. Should an agreement to purchase be reached in principle, ask the seller to confirm they will take the piece off the market, and not continue to offer it to other buyers.
10. A face-to-face completion in a secure location during daytime is recommended, and will allow the condition of the artwork to be checked against the description provided. Please do not be stupid, by turning up with large sums of cash in your pockets when meeting a stranger. Rely instead on a smartphone for a PayPal transfer or, if you're confident enough, a bank transfer.
11. If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, pay in a manner that gives you recourse, such as with PayPal, in case the art doesn't arrive, it shows up damaged, or you end up receiving a counterfeit or stolen piece.
12. If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, make the sale conditional upon the seller also undertaking to:
(i) carefully package the art and ship it using suitably robust, protective packaging that is capable of withstanding the inevitable hard knocks and bashes in transit;
(ii) arrange a fully-insured, very prompt dispatch (within, say, two business days of receiving the sale proceeds) with a pre-agreed and preferably express courier service; and
(iii) immediately follow-up in writing and provide you with valid tracking details or other relevant updates for the parcel.
During the course of your dealings with a seller, you might sense they're being oddly evasive, uncommunicative, or creating other obstacles in relation to some of the points in 1 to 12 above. If so, then use your good judgement on whether to pursue any further.
There are plenty of charming, talented and experienced scammers in the art market, as well as less nefarious individuals who may still bend the truth or mislead you just to secure a sale. They know which buttons to push, and how to create a sense of urgency. They know that the possibility of losing out on a bargain is what many buyers fear most.
Do keep this mind. Try not to be the sucker who gets ripped off because they were overly keen and ignored the red flags.
Good luck. And remember the Golden Rule.
Some first post!Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair [...] Granted, astbury, it's a new account. But does it read like a first post? __________ oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum. __________ To potential buyers, especially less experienced ones, some tips for protecting yourselves:1. Try having at least one of the initial discussions via Skype or Zoom, rather than relying exclusively on more anonymous written or telephone communications โ to get a better feel for the seller, by seeing if they're pleasant, forthcoming, and otherwise demonstrating good faith. 2. As a precautionary measure for higher-value transactions, consider asking for a seller's proof of identity (e.g. valid passport) and perhaps even physical address (e.g. recent utility bill). 3. Google the seller โ their name, telephone number, email address, home or work address โ to check whether they have a reassuring presence online (which may help to rule out the possibility they've given you a fake name or pseudonym, along with a burner phone number and email account). 4. Get the seller's references for some of their previous sales, and follow them up. 5. Find out in advance what provenance or authenticity documentation will accompany the art being sold, to ensure you're comfortable with it. 6. Where possible, verify the art's purported provenance and ownership title. 7. Insist on a detailed description of the condition of the art, accompanied by clear, high-res photographs (front, back, sides, and some at an angle in natural, raking light), with a particular emphasis on any damage, however minor โ tears, marks, surface dirt, scuffing, abrasions, cracked paint or ink, pigment loss, water stains, foxing, discolouration, light damage, mount damage, skinning, adhesive residue, handling creases, rolling creases, corner dents, buckling, trimming, etc. 8. Request information about any restoration work carried out on the piece โ including professional flattening, which can slightly discolour a work on paper, alter its surface texture and (if very carelessly done) also flatten out a blind stamp. 9. Should an agreement to purchase be reached in principle, ask the seller to confirm they will take the piece off the market, and not continue to offer it to other buyers. 10. A face-to-face completion in a secure location during daytime is recommended, and will allow the condition of the artwork to be checked against the description provided. Please do not be stupid, by turning up with large sums of cash in your pockets when meeting a stranger. Rely instead on a smartphone for a PayPal transfer or, if you're confident enough, a bank transfer. 11. If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, pay in a manner that gives you recourse, such as with PayPal, in case the art doesn't arrive, it shows up damaged, or you end up receiving a counterfeit or stolen piece. 12. If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, make the sale conditional upon the seller also undertaking to: (i) carefully package the art and ship it using suitably robust, protective packaging that is capable of withstanding the inevitable hard knocks and bashes in transit; (ii) arrange a fully-insured, very prompt dispatch (within, say, two business days of receiving the sale proceeds) with a pre-agreed and preferably express courier service; and (iii) immediately follow-up in writing and provide you with valid tracking details or other relevant updates for the parcel. During the course of your dealings with a seller, you might sense they're being oddly evasive, uncommunicative, or creating other obstacles in relation to some of the points in 1 to 12 above. If so, then use your good judgement on whether to pursue any further. There are plenty of charming, talented and experienced scammers in the art market, as well as less nefarious individuals who may still bend the truth or mislead you just to secure a sale. They know which buttons to push, and how to create a sense of urgency. They know that the possibility of losing out on a bargain is what many buyers fear most. Do keep this mind. Try not to be the sucker who gets ripped off because they were overly keen and ignored the red flags. Good luck. And remember the Golden Rule.
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oldejames
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by oldejames on May 25, 2021 14:15:12 GMT 1, Hi there โ New here but not new to collecting. This was my first ever post on this forum. All I did was look at other posts to see how you all are communicating here. Happy for anyone to reach out / hop on a zoom or any of the other number of precautionary measures you outlined below. Thanks!
Some first post!Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair Granted, astbury, it's a new account. But does it read like a first post? __________ oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum. __________ To potential buyers, especially less experienced ones, some tips for protecting yourselves:1.ย Try having at least one of the initial discussions via Skype or Zoom, rather than relying exclusively on more anonymous written or telephone communications โ to get a better feel for the seller, by seeing if they're pleasant, forthcoming, and otherwise demonstrating good faith. 2.ย As a precautionary measure for higher-value transactions, consider asking for a seller's proof of identity (e.g.ย valid passport) and perhaps even physical address (e.g.ย recent utility bill). 3.ย Google the seller โย their name, telephone number, email address, home or work address โย to check whether they have a reassuring presence online (which may help to rule out the possibility they've given you a fake name or pseudonym, along with a burner phone number and email account). 4.ย Get the seller's references for some of their previous sales, and follow them up. 5.ย Find out in advance what provenance or authenticity documentation will accompany the art being sold, to ensure you're comfortable with it. 6.ย Where possible, verify the art's purported provenance and ownership title. 7.ย Insist on a detailed description of the condition of the art, accompanied by clear, high-res photographs (front, back, sides, and some at an angle in natural, raking light), with a particular emphasis on any damage, however minor โ tears, marks, surface dirt, scuffing, abrasions, cracked paint or ink, pigment loss, water stains, foxing, discolouration, light damage, mount damage, skinning, adhesive residue, handling creases, rolling creases, corner dents, buckling, trimming, etc. 8.ย Request information about any restoration work carried out on the piece โ including professional flattening, which can slightly discolour a work on paper, alter its surface texture and (if very carelessly done) also flatten out a blind stamp. 9.ย Should an agreement to purchase be reached in principle, ask the seller to confirm they will take the piece off the market, and not continue to offer it to other buyers. 10.ย A face-to-face completion in a secure location during daytime is recommended, and will allow the condition of the artwork to be checked against the description provided. Please do not be stupid, by turning up with large sums of cash in your pockets when meeting a stranger. Rely instead on a smartphone for a PayPal transfer or, if you're confident enough, a bank transfer. 11.ย If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, pay in a manner that gives you recourse, such as with PayPal, in case the art doesn't arrive, it shows up damaged, or you end up receiving a counterfeit or stolen piece. 12.ย If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, make the sale conditional upon the seller also undertaking to: ย ย (i)ย carefully package the art and ship it using suitably robust, protective packaging that is capable of withstanding the inevitable hard knocks and bashes in transit; ย ย (ii)ย arrange a fully-insured, very prompt dispatch (within, say, two business days of receiving the sale proceeds) with a pre-agreed and preferably express courier service; and ย ย (iii)ย immediately follow-up in writing and provide you with valid tracking details or other relevant updates for the parcel. During the course of your dealings with a seller, you might sense they're being oddly evasive, uncommunicative, or creating other obstacles in relation to some of the points in 1 to 12 above. If so, then use your good judgement on whether to pursue any further. There are plenty of charming, talented and experienced scammers in the art market, as well as less nefarious individuals who may still bend the truth or mislead you just to secure a sale. They know which buttons to push, and how to create a sense of urgency. They know that the possibility of losing out on a bargain is what many buyers fear most. Do keep this mind. Try not to be the sucker who gets ripped off because they were overly keen and ignored the red flags. Good luck. And remember the Golden Rule.
Hi there โ New here but not new to collecting. This was my first ever post on this forum. All I did was look at other posts to see how you all are communicating here. Happy for anyone to reach out / hop on a zoom or any of the other number of precautionary measures you outlined below. Thanks! Some first post!Only other one of these I have seen available is $15k so price seems fair Granted, astbury, it's a new account. But does it read like a first post? __________ oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum. __________ To potential buyers, especially less experienced ones, some tips for protecting yourselves:1.ย Try having at least one of the initial discussions via Skype or Zoom, rather than relying exclusively on more anonymous written or telephone communications โ to get a better feel for the seller, by seeing if they're pleasant, forthcoming, and otherwise demonstrating good faith. 2.ย As a precautionary measure for higher-value transactions, consider asking for a seller's proof of identity (e.g.ย valid passport) and perhaps even physical address (e.g.ย recent utility bill). 3.ย Google the seller โย their name, telephone number, email address, home or work address โย to check whether they have a reassuring presence online (which may help to rule out the possibility they've given you a fake name or pseudonym, along with a burner phone number and email account). 4.ย Get the seller's references for some of their previous sales, and follow them up. 5.ย Find out in advance what provenance or authenticity documentation will accompany the art being sold, to ensure you're comfortable with it. 6.ย Where possible, verify the art's purported provenance and ownership title. 7.ย Insist on a detailed description of the condition of the art, accompanied by clear, high-res photographs (front, back, sides, and some at an angle in natural, raking light), with a particular emphasis on any damage, however minor โ tears, marks, surface dirt, scuffing, abrasions, cracked paint or ink, pigment loss, water stains, foxing, discolouration, light damage, mount damage, skinning, adhesive residue, handling creases, rolling creases, corner dents, buckling, trimming, etc. 8.ย Request information about any restoration work carried out on the piece โ including professional flattening, which can slightly discolour a work on paper, alter its surface texture and (if very carelessly done) also flatten out a blind stamp. 9.ย Should an agreement to purchase be reached in principle, ask the seller to confirm they will take the piece off the market, and not continue to offer it to other buyers. 10.ย A face-to-face completion in a secure location during daytime is recommended, and will allow the condition of the artwork to be checked against the description provided. Please do not be stupid, by turning up with large sums of cash in your pockets when meeting a stranger. Rely instead on a smartphone for a PayPal transfer or, if you're confident enough, a bank transfer. 11.ย If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, pay in a manner that gives you recourse, such as with PayPal, in case the art doesn't arrive, it shows up damaged, or you end up receiving a counterfeit or stolen piece. 12.ย If geography prevents a face-to-face completion, make the sale conditional upon the seller also undertaking to: ย ย (i)ย carefully package the art and ship it using suitably robust, protective packaging that is capable of withstanding the inevitable hard knocks and bashes in transit; ย ย (ii)ย arrange a fully-insured, very prompt dispatch (within, say, two business days of receiving the sale proceeds) with a pre-agreed and preferably express courier service; and ย ย (iii)ย immediately follow-up in writing and provide you with valid tracking details or other relevant updates for the parcel. During the course of your dealings with a seller, you might sense they're being oddly evasive, uncommunicative, or creating other obstacles in relation to some of the points in 1 to 12 above. If so, then use your good judgement on whether to pursue any further. There are plenty of charming, talented and experienced scammers in the art market, as well as less nefarious individuals who may still bend the truth or mislead you just to secure a sale. They know which buttons to push, and how to create a sense of urgency. They know that the possibility of losing out on a bargain is what many buyers fear most. Do keep this mind. Try not to be the sucker who gets ripped off because they were overly keen and ignored the red flags. Good luck. And remember the Golden Rule.
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met
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[SOLD] Genieve Figgis - Heracles and Omphale - Print , by met on May 27, 2021 0:45:51 GMT 1, Hi there โ New here but not new to collecting. This was my first ever post on this forum. All I did was look at other posts to see how you all are communicating here. Happy for anyone to reach out / hop on a zoom or any of the other number of precautionary measures you outlined below. Thanks! [...] oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum. [...]
Many thanks for the prompt reply.
Its non-defensive tone was most welcome, and I appreciated the confirmation that you've never had another account here.
[Individuals almost inevitably drop in my esteem whenever I discover they're hiding behind multiple usernames on this forum โ whether it be to:
(i) hype the art in their own collections; (ii) increase the perceived interest in, or value of, an item being sold; (iii) snipe at or abuse other members more anonymously; (iv) give the false impression their opinions in an argument are shared by a larger number of people; (v) lowball sellers to chip away at their price expectations; or (vi) shield themselves from criticism when reselling or flipping, and avoid damaging their standing on the forum (built up under a separate account).
All of it is deceitful, wretched, and just so cowardly.]
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A further point regarding Skype or Zoom calls (which, once again, collectors are recommended to consider when distance-purchasing from people they don't know):
I should have mentioned these have the additional benefit of allowing buyers to verify that sellers are in possession of the relevant art. Besides helping to identify cases of outright fraud, this can also weed out the numerous dealers who:
(a) neither own nor hold the art they're trying to sell; and
(b) have dishonestly failed to disclose their status as mere brokers, as opposed to actual owners.
__________
Coming from a newly-registered account, what your sale posts reminded me is that (at least based on his previous behaviour) this forum was due another herpes-style outbreak by the recurrent art thief and scammer, Jason Zenga.
To my fellow members, do exercise good judgement. And stay on your toes.
Take sensible precautions when buying from strangers on the internet, especially if you sense they're being overly guarded about disclosing their identity and location.
Hi there โ New here but not new to collecting. This was my first ever post on this forum. All I did was look at other posts to see how you all are communicating here. Happy for anyone to reach out / hop on a zoom or any of the other number of precautionary measures you outlined below. Thanks! [...] oldejames โ In the interest of transparency and buyer peace of mind, please could you confirm your other current or previous username(s) on this forum. [...] Many thanks for the prompt reply. Its non-defensive tone was most welcome, and I appreciated the confirmation that you've never had another account here. [Individuals almost inevitably drop in my esteem whenever I discover they're hiding behind multiple usernames on this forum โ whether it be to:
(i) hype the art in their own collections; (ii) increase the perceived interest in, or value of, an item being sold; (iii) snipe at or abuse other members more anonymously; (iv) give the false impression their opinions in an argument are shared by a larger number of people; (v) lowball sellers to chip away at their price expectations; or (vi) shield themselves from criticism when reselling or flipping, and avoid damaging their standing on the forum (built up under a separate account).
All of it is deceitful, wretched, and just so cowardly.]__________ A further point regarding Skype or Zoom calls (which, once again, collectors are recommended to consider when distance-purchasing from people they don't know): I should have mentioned these have the additional benefit of allowing buyers to verify that sellers are in possession of the relevant art. Besides helping to identify cases of outright fraud, this can also weed out the numerous dealers who: (a) neither own nor hold the art they're trying to sell; and (b) have dishonestly failed to disclose their status as mere brokers, as opposed to actual owners. __________ Coming from a newly-registered account, what your sale posts reminded me is that (at least based on his previous behaviour) this forum was due another herpes-style outbreak by the recurrent art thief and scammer, Jason Zenga. To my fellow members, do exercise good judgement. And stay on your toes. Take sensible precautions when buying from strangers on the internet, especially if you sense they're being overly guarded about disclosing their identity and location.
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