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maadbeats
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by maadbeats on May 2, 2008 15:11:30 GMT 1, Whn Faile released them last summer they were $5k. Now at least $10k - $15k
Whn Faile released them last summer they were $5k. Now at least $10k - $15k
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motor
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by motor on May 2, 2008 15:11:54 GMT 1, Obviously it depends on images.
The last one on Laz web was £8K+VAT.
There will be two boxes in Bonhams auction later this month so who knows...
Obviously it depends on images.
The last one on Laz web was £8K+VAT.
There will be two boxes in Bonhams auction later this month so who knows...
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by bobbymeachamjr on May 2, 2008 15:40:36 GMT 1, The size you referenced 50cm x 40cm x20cm went for avg of 14K gbp each at auction. They were both monotone.
Laz had some of these @this size @£8K+VAT a while ago. Expect to pay between these 2 reference #s (8k-14K) depending on the quality of images and/or execution / colors etc
The extra large boxes are 50cm x 50cm x 30cm. Minimum of 10K gbp (prob for a monotone). Nice full color ones much more than 10K gbp as you're getting 4 full sides of beauty...
The size you referenced 50cm x 40cm x20cm went for avg of 14K gbp each at auction. They were both monotone.
Laz had some of these @this size @£8K+VAT a while ago. Expect to pay between these 2 reference #s (8k-14K) depending on the quality of images and/or execution / colors etc
The extra large boxes are 50cm x 50cm x 30cm. Minimum of 10K gbp (prob for a monotone). Nice full color ones much more than 10K gbp as you're getting 4 full sides of beauty...
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by bobbymeachamjr on May 2, 2008 15:59:24 GMT 1, Yeah with current Faile frenzy in full effect, that one @bonhams gonna easily beat its estimate...
Yeah with current Faile frenzy in full effect, that one @bonhams gonna easily beat its estimate...
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by ricosg11 on May 2, 2008 16:21:50 GMT 1, its one of the better boxes I have seen and a great size too.
its one of the better boxes I have seen and a great size too.
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lalinea
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by lalinea on May 2, 2008 22:56:19 GMT 1, Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC.
Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC.
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motor
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by motor on May 2, 2008 23:07:08 GMT 1, Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC.
Sorry but you're wrong.
And that's a fact.
Not sure about NIA but after that there was
London $1000-$2000
NYC $2000-$3500
NYC November $5000-$6500
Laz November $6000-$8000
and that's a fact as well.
Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC. Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. |
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oneeye
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by oneeye on May 3, 2008 0:50:26 GMT 1, That's a stunning box! Would be surprised if it went for north of 30.
That's a stunning box! Would be surprised if it went for north of 30.
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by Deleted on May 3, 2008 0:52:08 GMT 1, would it be fair to say that Faile's signature "medium" is the box? I personally love them and if I had to choose, would get a box before a canvas piece.
would it be fair to say that Faile's signature "medium" is the box? I personally love them and if I had to choose, would get a box before a canvas piece.
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Toykio
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by Toykio on May 3, 2008 2:13:10 GMT 1, i saw this piece in person & its really amazing!
pretty shure that someone will pay this in the very near future!
i saw this piece in person & its really amazing!
pretty shure that someone will pay this in the very near future!
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by bobbymeachamjr on May 3, 2008 6:34:30 GMT 1, Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC. Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well.
Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000
Laz apr08 - all sold
Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC. Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000 Laz apr08 - all sold |
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RBK
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by RBK on May 3, 2008 6:34:38 GMT 1, would it be fair to say that Faile's signature "medium" is the box? I personally love them and if I had to choose, would get a box before a canvas piece.
Everyone one's entitled to their own opinion - but I think you're cuckoo in the coconut if you really think this. Some of the boxes are really nice, but nothing compares their canvases imho.
would it be fair to say that Faile's signature "medium" is the box? I personally love them and if I had to choose, would get a box before a canvas piece. Everyone one's entitled to their own opinion - but I think you're cuckoo in the coconut if you really think this. Some of the boxes are really nice, but nothing compares their canvases imho. |
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oneeye
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by oneeye on May 3, 2008 15:20:06 GMT 1, Don't buy it if you're hoping it will go up in value. But the answer to your question is without a doubt it's going up.
Don't buy it if you're hoping it will go up in value. But the answer to your question is without a doubt it's going up.
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lalinea
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by lalinea on May 3, 2008 23:10:02 GMT 1, Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Fail box $700+ LA early 07 Guaranteed Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000 Laz apr08 - all sold
Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Fail box $700+ LA early 07 Guaranteed Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000 Laz apr08 - all sold |
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lalinea
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by lalinea on May 3, 2008 23:12:30 GMT 1, Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC. Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well.
Faile Boxes started at $700+ at a Gallery in Los Angeles early 07 FACT
Those boxes went for $700 USD in Feb 07 at a show in LA, then they were $1100 USD later in the year at a show in NYC. Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Faile Boxes started at $700+ at a Gallery in Los Angeles early 07 FACT |
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dime683
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by dime683 on May 3, 2008 23:42:12 GMT 1, i picked on up in nyc at their show for $1500. and im looking at the receipt so im pretty sure it cost that much.
i picked on up in nyc at their show for $1500. and im looking at the receipt so im pretty sure it cost that much.
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motor
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by motor on May 4, 2008 8:34:15 GMT 1, i picked on up in nyc at their show for $1500. and im looking at the receipt so im pretty sure it cost that much.
You're right Dime.
The thin ones (50x30x5cm) in Black & White and Red & White were actually $1500.
Thanks.
i picked on up in nyc at their show for $1500. and im looking at the receipt so im pretty sure it cost that much. You're right Dime. The thin ones (50x30x5cm) in Black & White and Red & White were actually $1500. Thanks. |
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by Johnston America on May 5, 2008 13:07:10 GMT 1, 50X30X20 FC = $3500
50X30X10 FC = $3000
50X30X5 FC = $2500
50X40X30 RW/BW= $2500
50X30X10 RW = $2000 (There were no BW in this size)
50X30X5 RW/BW = $1500
50X30X20 FC = $3500
50X30X10 FC = $3000
50X30X5 FC = $2500
50X40X30 RW/BW= $2500
50X30X10 RW = $2000 (There were no BW in this size)
50X30X5 RW/BW = $1500
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Philippe
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by Philippe on May 5, 2008 22:42:43 GMT 1, thank you for the clarification JAm 
thank you for the clarification JAm |
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by darjeeling on May 6, 2008 1:22:32 GMT 1, Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000 Laz apr08 - all sold
you sure they sold or did laz 'pull them' again in anticipation of jacking the prices higher? Because the boxes LAZ had left over were, well they were 'left overs' i.e. weak. If you bought one for 3-5k, sure hold on to it, maybe they'll double again maybe they'll drop? But no big deal if the value drops 5 or 10k when you paid 3k. But if you pay 20k for one and things drop ...holy jesus...
If you want to buy a box now you're going to pay more than it's worth, do yourself a favor and put the money in a CD or something. You'll thank me later.
Sorry but you're wrong. And that's a fact. Not sure about NIA but after that there was London $1000-$2000 NYC $2000-$3500 NYC November $5000-$6500 Laz November $6000-$8000 and that's a fact as well. Laz feb/mar 08 - $16000 - $20000 Laz apr08 - all sold you sure they sold or did laz 'pull them' again in anticipation of jacking the prices higher? Because the boxes LAZ had left over were, well they were 'left overs' i.e. weak. If you bought one for 3-5k, sure hold on to it, maybe they'll double again maybe they'll drop? But no big deal if the value drops 5 or 10k when you paid 3k. But if you pay 20k for one and things drop ...holy jesus... If you want to buy a box now you're going to pay more than it's worth, do yourself a favor and put the money in a CD or something. You'll thank me later. |
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oneeye
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by oneeye on May 6, 2008 1:39:11 GMT 1, You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay.
And to be honest, I don't understand your logic. Why would someone put their money in a CD when they want to invest in something they can look at everyday and appreciate?
I remember a friend of mine was getting the same type of advice when he was contemplating purchasing an Adam Neate original for 20K...thank God he didn't listen to the advice.
You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay.
And to be honest, I don't understand your logic. Why would someone put their money in a CD when they want to invest in something they can look at everyday and appreciate?
I remember a friend of mine was getting the same type of advice when he was contemplating purchasing an Adam Neate original for 20K...thank God he didn't listen to the advice.
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by darjeeling on May 6, 2008 2:10:21 GMT 1, fine with me, go ahead and pay someone 20k for a box. It's a great time to speculate on street art. Nothing but up. up. up. 
just giving my opinion and I may be wrong sure, but it is an informed opinion, but hey whatever rocks your boogie dude.
fine with me, go ahead and pay someone 20k for a box. It's a great time to speculate on street art. Nothing but up. up. up. just giving my opinion and I may be wrong sure, but it is an informed opinion, but hey whatever rocks your boogie dude. |
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by darjeeling on May 6, 2008 2:21:08 GMT 1, You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay.
Anyway, about this comment which I hear all the time over here to justify ridiculous prices, well take your art to an auction house or insurance firm and see how they value it. They weigh numerous factors above and beyond the old it's worth whatever you can sucker someone to pay for it. 8 years ago some people were "willing to pay" several hundred dollars a share for Cisco systems, they obviously paid more than it's worth...
You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. Anyway, about this comment which I hear all the time over here to justify ridiculous prices, well take your art to an auction house or insurance firm and see how they value it. They weigh numerous factors above and beyond the old it's worth whatever you can sucker someone to pay for it. 8 years ago some people were "willing to pay" several hundred dollars a share for Cisco systems, they obviously paid more than it's worth... |
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by bobbymeachamjr on May 6, 2008 6:18:09 GMT 1, You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. Anyway, about this comment which I hear all the time over here to justify ridiculous prices, well take your art to an auction house or insurance firm and see how they value it. They weigh numerous factors above and beyond the old it's worth whatever you can sucker someone to pay for it.
Actually an big name auction house is valuing a small box @ $20K
www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotdetailsNoFlash&iSaleItemNo=3923075
You're going to pay more than what's it's worth? I don't get that. Art is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. Anyway, about this comment which I hear all the time over here to justify ridiculous prices, well take your art to an auction house or insurance firm and see how they value it. They weigh numerous factors above and beyond the old it's worth whatever you can sucker someone to pay for it. Actually an big name auction house is valuing a small box @ $20K www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotdetailsNoFlash&iSaleItemNo=3923075 |
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by darjeeling on May 6, 2008 13:33:54 GMT 1, Thanks but that's already been pointed out and isn't the point of what I was saying. But hey, if you own a box I suggest you get your ass over to Bonhams asap. And let's not kid ourselves folks. Nobody spends 20k on 'art' because they "want something to look at everyday." It's all about ego and money at this level.
Thanks but that's already been pointed out and isn't the point of what I was saying. But hey, if you own a box I suggest you get your ass over to Bonhams asap. And let's not kid ourselves folks. Nobody spends 20k on 'art' because they "want something to look at everyday." It's all about ego and money at this level.
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by ricosg11 on May 6, 2008 13:40:32 GMT 1, actually at the 20k level up to 80-100k we are chicken poop. The big boys are barely involved yet. Not saying its a good or bad idea to buy one of these investment wise. All im sayin is that a wealthy art collector can fart out 20k.
actually at the 20k level up to 80-100k we are chicken poop. The big boys are barely involved yet. Not saying its a good or bad idea to buy one of these investment wise. All im sayin is that a wealthy art collector can fart out 20k.
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jam
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by jam on May 6, 2008 13:50:30 GMT 1, Tis true... most auction houses talk about $100k being the threshold that needs to be consistently broke by an artist for the real collectors to take notice.
Tis true... most auction houses talk about $100k being the threshold that needs to be consistently broke by an artist for the real collectors to take notice.
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What price should I expect to pay for a Faile box?, by ricosg11 on May 6, 2008 15:50:36 GMT 1, Jam I tried really hard not to use the term "real collector". Cause whats that make us??
Jam I tried really hard not to use the term "real collector". Cause whats that make us??
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