lukas01
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Cleon Peterson , by lukas01 on Nov 30, 2023 17:20:06 GMT 1, Cleon Peterson
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Pawel
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Cleon Peterson , by Pawel on Nov 30, 2023 17:22:22 GMT 1, Shipping to Poland โฌ90
Shipping to Poland โฌ90
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lukas01
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Cleon Peterson , by lukas01 on Nov 30, 2023 17:25:02 GMT 1, Yes, shipping a little expensive. But it is a signed book with a small limited edition screenprint included.
Yes, shipping a little expensive. But it is a signed book with a small limited edition screenprint included.
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quezer
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Cleon Peterson , by quezer on Nov 30, 2023 17:33:53 GMT 1, US shipping is not bad - solid price point imo. I snagged one.
US shipping is not bad - solid price point imo. I snagged one.
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quezer
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Cleon Peterson , by quezer on Nov 30, 2023 17:36:34 GMT 1, Sold out quickly.
Sold out quickly.
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lukas01
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Cleon Peterson , by lukas01 on Nov 30, 2023 17:40:53 GMT 1, This version of the book is also on sale...
This version of the book is also on sale...
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Cleon Peterson , by warsaw project on Nov 30, 2023 18:02:33 GMT 1, Yea, put me off. was only 30 for the Faile print.
Yea, put me off. was only 30 for the Faile print.
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blurp
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Cleon Peterson , by blurp on Nov 30, 2023 19:21:15 GMT 1, Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic.
This version of the book is also on sale...
Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. This version of the book is also on sale...
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Cleon Peterson , by John The Badgers on Nov 30, 2023 19:43:25 GMT 1, Perhaps a little harsh, but the book not signed?
Appreciate you get the print with the signed 'collectors edition', but a lot of really good signed books available at ยฃ30-ยฃ60, just see the nice people at Phaidon, and this not as far as I can see.
Perhaps a little harsh, but the book not signed?
Appreciate you get the print with the signed 'collectors edition', but a lot of really good signed books available at ยฃ30-ยฃ60, just see the nice people at Phaidon, and this not as far as I can see.
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New Wave Dave
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Cleon Peterson , by New Wave Dave on Nov 30, 2023 22:03:55 GMT 1, Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. This version of the book is also on sale... Depends on the context. Obviously his work is conveying some harrowing messaging, with heavy tones of violence and barbarism, that could be analogous to the nazi party. Maybe that's the whole point. Or maybe he wasn't aware of it. To be honest, I didn't initially equate this with any Nazi sloganeering when I first read the title.
Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. This version of the book is also on sale... Depends on the context. Obviously his work is conveying some harrowing messaging, with heavy tones of violence and barbarism, that could be analogous to the nazi party. Maybe that's the whole point. Or maybe he wasn't aware of it. To be honest, I didn't initially equate this with any Nazi sloganeering when I first read the title.
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WOOF
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Cleon Peterson , by WOOF on Dec 1, 2023 1:15:14 GMT 1, I'd be VERY surprised if he just randomly thought up "Blood and Soil" and had no idea it was a nazi slogan...
I'd be VERY surprised if he just randomly thought up "Blood and Soil" and had no idea it was a nazi slogan...
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blurp
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Cleon Peterson , by blurp on Dec 1, 2023 16:43:47 GMT 1, it's certainly a question worth asking the artist. As I've done some research in the past on rwe, i unfortunately know it all too well.
Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. Depends on the context. Obviously his work is conveying some harrowing messaging, with heavy tones of violence and barbarism, that could be analogous to the nazi party. Maybe that's the whole point. Or maybe he wasn't aware of it. To be honest, I didn't initially equate this with any Nazi sloganeering when I first read the title.
it's certainly a question worth asking the artist. As I've done some research in the past on rwe, i unfortunately know it all too well. Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. Depends on the context. Obviously his work is conveying some harrowing messaging, with heavy tones of violence and barbarism, that could be analogous to the nazi party. Maybe that's the whole point. Or maybe he wasn't aware of it. To be honest, I didn't initially equate this with any Nazi sloganeering when I first read the title.
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yojoe007
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Cleon Peterson , by yojoe007 on Dec 10, 2023 3:09:39 GMT 1, Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. This version of the book is also on sale... I mean... did you google it?
From OTI: "His 2018 exhibition at Over the Influence, Blood and Soil, adhered to the black and red aesthetic of Fascist propaganda that was codified in Europe in the lead up to the Second World War, drawing deliberate parallels between those histories of societal debasement and the hyperbolic and increasingly violent state of contemporary American discourse."
The show was full of images of political power abuses, "deplorables", conspiracy theorist/right wing extremism, state violence, etc. etc. This book is about that era of his artistic output, which culminated in the Blood and Soil show.
Is nobody going to problematize the use of a nazi propaganda slogan or do we see it as edgie and subversive that he's trying to use and reclaim the phrase. To me, it is lazy, cheap and sullies what is an otherwise mildly intersting and marginally innovative aesthetic. This version of the book is also on sale... I mean... did you google it? From OTI: "His 2018 exhibition at Over the Influence, Blood and Soil, adhered to the black and red aesthetic of Fascist propaganda that was codified in Europe in the lead up to the Second World War, drawing deliberate parallels between those histories of societal debasement and the hyperbolic and increasingly violent state of contemporary American discourse." The show was full of images of political power abuses, "deplorables", conspiracy theorist/right wing extremism, state violence, etc. etc. This book is about that era of his artistic output, which culminated in the Blood and Soil show.
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yojoe007
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Cleon Peterson , by yojoe007 on Jan 4, 2024 23:57:09 GMT 1,
I missed out on the signed + print edition (Australia time), but snagged the regular edition. It is a beautiful, oversized, cloth covered volume. Yes, international shipping was very expensive. But the book is big, the book is heavy, the book was shipped well protected, and it's not the artist's fault. Just the way the world is.
I reached out to Cleon's representation and asked of there was any chance I could have my copy signed. Cleon was kind enough to oblige, and I'm a very happy customer.
Hope some others picked up this amazing tome!
I missed out on the signed + print edition (Australia time), but snagged the regular edition. It is a beautiful, oversized, cloth covered volume. Yes, international shipping was very expensive. But the book is big, the book is heavy, the book was shipped well protected, and it's not the artist's fault. Just the way the world is. I reached out to Cleon's representation and asked of there was any chance I could have my copy signed. Cleon was kind enough to oblige, and I'm a very happy customer. Hope some others picked up this amazing tome!
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Cleon Peterson , by Glitter G on Jan 6, 2024 0:30:46 GMT 1, If anyone is interested in buying it, I have an extra copy in Ireland, not signed
If anyone is interested in buying it, I have an extra copy in Ireland, not signed
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