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jB
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by jB on May 20, 2008 19:39:26 GMT 1, you should really send those off to POW
you should really send those off to POW
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 19:44:14 GMT 1, sure, POW can bid on them if they want them....
sure, POW can bid on them if they want them....
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westley
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July 2007
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by westley on May 20, 2008 20:00:06 GMT 1, what would pow do with them ?
what would pow do with them ?
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 20:04:00 GMT 1, no idea, but i have brought a love rat and im needing the cash,
no idea, but i have brought a love rat and im needing the cash,
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by funkrye on May 20, 2008 20:45:35 GMT 1, So what your saying is that you've
a) bought some back doors prints cheap or b) Knocked up some fakes yourself
and are now selling them for profit to buy a real Banksy, leaving the poor sucker who buys them of you with the dodgy prints.
So all your talk of back door prints being fine was lies as your selling them on as soon as possible. And i bet the real banksy has provenance.
So what your saying is that you've
a) bought some back doors prints cheap or b) Knocked up some fakes yourself
and are now selling them for profit to buy a real Banksy, leaving the poor sucker who buys them of you with the dodgy prints.
So all your talk of back door prints being fine was lies as your selling them on as soon as possible. And i bet the real banksy has provenance.
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 20:53:13 GMT 1, actually i got them in a trade deal with another forum member, he wanted my dface and he offered these 3 prints so we did a deal.. i was intending to keep them but then i won a love rat cheap on ebay and decided that these would be the easiest things to sell, i have tried to sell some other stuff but no one is interested
backdoor prints are fine, they are backdoor prints everyone knows that.. and yes my love rat does have watertight prov.
actually i got them in a trade deal with another forum member, he wanted my dface and he offered these 3 prints so we did a deal.. i was intending to keep them but then i won a love rat cheap on ebay and decided that these would be the easiest things to sell, i have tried to sell some other stuff but no one is interested backdoor prints are fine, they are backdoor prints everyone knows that.. and yes my love rat does have watertight prov.
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taylor26
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August 2007
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by taylor26 on May 20, 2008 20:55:32 GMT 1, anyone else notice that the highest bidder has only ever bid on this sellers items
2 bids in 30 days 50% bid rate with the same seller
In my view shill bidder
anyone else notice that the highest bidder has only ever bid on this sellers items
2 bids in 30 days 50% bid rate with the same seller
In my view shill bidder
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Heavyconsumer
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by Heavyconsumer on May 20, 2008 21:00:51 GMT 1, The 2 MQs look quite different from one another in terms of the paper they're on, particularly the amount of white border surrounding the image. I would suggest that at least one of them did not come from POW.
The 2 MQs look quite different from one another in terms of the paper they're on, particularly the amount of white border surrounding the image. I would suggest that at least one of them did not come from POW.
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:01:52 GMT 1, the same seller??? i have only listed this item and some dface decks in the last month.. he has bid on my items twice in 2 days as these backdoor prints have been listed twice dumbass...
shill bidding my ass.. if i wanted to shill bid i have plently of friends who would do it for me but those 3 bidders are none of them..
the same seller??? i have only listed this item and some dface decks in the last month.. he has bid on my items twice in 2 days as these backdoor prints have been listed twice dumbass...
shill bidding my ass.. if i wanted to shill bid i have plently of friends who would do it for me but those 3 bidders are none of them..
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:02:41 GMT 1, i can assure you 100% that i didnt make these myself..
i can assure you 100% that i didnt make these myself..
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taylor26
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by taylor26 on May 20, 2008 21:02:47 GMT 1, they look like misprints as the border is not right on either
they look like misprints as the border is not right on either
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:04:27 GMT 1, well maybe the person i got them off will fill you in as to where they came from...
well maybe the person i got them off will fill you in as to where they came from...
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taylor26
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by taylor26 on May 20, 2008 21:08:17 GMT 1, so is the border the same on both ?
so is the border the same on both ?
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jam
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November 2006
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by jam on May 20, 2008 21:09:19 GMT 1, backdoor prints are fine, they are backdoor prints everyone knows that..
Backdoor prints are anything but fine. Stolen images, yes. Causing continued confusion as to what consists as a true 'backdoor' print VS a flat out fake meant to deceive, yes. Harmful to the integrity of the print market, yes. 'Fine' in any way shape or form, NO.
backdoor prints are fine, they are backdoor prints everyone knows that.. Backdoor prints are anything but fine. Stolen images, yes. Causing continued confusion as to what consists as a true 'backdoor' print VS a flat out fake meant to deceive, yes. Harmful to the integrity of the print market, yes. 'Fine' in any way shape or form, NO.
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gingergit
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by gingergit on May 20, 2008 21:13:43 GMT 1, I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints.......
I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints.......
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funster
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by funster on May 20, 2008 21:13:56 GMT 1, I have to agree with Jam. IMO POW et el made a massive mistake by letting these out, however close they are to the originals. However, richy is well within his rights to sell them and certainly hasn't mislead any buyers, the mistake lies elsewhere.
I have to agree with Jam. IMO POW et el made a massive mistake by letting these out, however close they are to the originals. However, richy is well within his rights to sell them and certainly hasn't mislead any buyers, the mistake lies elsewhere.
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:29:58 GMT 1, I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints.......
i brought these as backdoor prints with no prov and am selling them as backdoor prints with no prov.. of course i insist that my signed or unsigned prints from limited runs come with prov, who wouldnt.. i dont really understand what your trying to say?
I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints....... i brought these as backdoor prints with no prov and am selling them as backdoor prints with no prov.. of course i insist that my signed or unsigned prints from limited runs come with prov, who wouldnt.. i dont really understand what your trying to say?
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:30:46 GMT 1, so is the border the same on both ?
the boarder is the same on both, i think, i dont have the one on the right anymore so i cant check
so is the border the same on both ? the boarder is the same on both, i think, i dont have the one on the right anymore so i cant check
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:31:24 GMT 1, I have to agree with Jam. IMO POW et el made a massive mistake by letting these out, however close they are to the originals. However, richy is well within his rights to sell them and certainly hasn't mislead any buyers, the mistake lies elsewhere.
thank you,
I have to agree with Jam. IMO POW et el made a massive mistake by letting these out, however close they are to the originals. However, richy is well within his rights to sell them and certainly hasn't mislead any buyers, the mistake lies elsewhere. thank you,
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on May 20, 2008 21:32:13 GMT 1, no idea, but i have brought a love rat and im needing the cash,
i thought you were selling these for your housemate?
you are one shady bastard aint ya? stop with the lies now, or else seek help for your multiple personality disorder lol
you know as well as anyone these are dink, don't forget to get your "housemate" to write BACKDOOR all over the reverse eh........
no idea, but i have brought a love rat and im needing the cash, i thought you were selling these for your housemate? you are one shady bastard aint ya? stop with the lies now, or else seek help for your multiple personality disorder lol you know as well as anyone these are dink, don't forget to get your "housemate" to write BACKDOOR all over the reverse eh........
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grafffan
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March 2008
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by grafffan on May 20, 2008 21:33:12 GMT 1, I don’t think Richy you should even waste your time answering their questions and whatever...just the fact that all most are worried about is money money money and a value...well eBay value that is.
Pretty disturbing and sad, a lot of good conversations started and no comments/additions because so many are worried about the next way to flip some work...started a new thread about new artists not talked about much and got one message...should have talked about value value value!
Funny part about it is Banksy makes fun of these same type of people in his art...obsessed with money and such and what it is selling for on eBay. Well this forum in many ways is just another eBay...what happened to truly enjoying the art for what it is, not just the value? I know this is not everyone but wow...
I don’t think Richy you should even waste your time answering their questions and whatever...just the fact that all most are worried about is money money money and a value...well eBay value that is.
Pretty disturbing and sad, a lot of good conversations started and no comments/additions because so many are worried about the next way to flip some work...started a new thread about new artists not talked about much and got one message...should have talked about value value value!
Funny part about it is Banksy makes fun of these same type of people in his art...obsessed with money and such and what it is selling for on eBay. Well this forum in many ways is just another eBay...what happened to truly enjoying the art for what it is, not just the value? I know this is not everyone but wow...
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by rosstierney on May 20, 2008 21:33:36 GMT 1, they look like misprints as the border is not right on either
if you'd bothered to look at the other photo's you'd realise it's sitting on top of a piece of paper? give the lad a break. it's already been discussed on prior threads:
they look like misprints as the border is not right on either if you'd bothered to look at the other photo's you'd realise it's sitting on top of a piece of paper? give the lad a break. it's already been discussed on prior threads:
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jam
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November 2006
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by jam on May 20, 2008 21:36:37 GMT 1, I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints....... i brought these as backdoor prints with no prov and am selling them as backdoor prints with no prov.. of course i insist that my signed or unsigned prints from limited runs come with prov, who wouldnt.. i dont really understand what your trying to say?
So you bought them, or traded for them? Regardless of how you are selling them, you are opening the door for some unscrouplous person to purchase them, put a number on them that matches an authentic print with proper provonance, and put it back on the market to take advantage of someone. Ginger is right on... you are perpetuating a problem that is eroding the provenance guarantee and the amusing part is that you can have no guarantee the same thing hasn't happened with the print you paid for and feel is legitimate. Surely you can see how this is an issue!
I find it amusing that the person who is selling these back door prints also insists that the love rat he bought comes with full provenance...... if back door prints are fine, surely provenance shouldnt be an issue for any of his prints....... i brought these as backdoor prints with no prov and am selling them as backdoor prints with no prov.. of course i insist that my signed or unsigned prints from limited runs come with prov, who wouldnt.. i dont really understand what your trying to say? So you bought them, or traded for them? Regardless of how you are selling them, you are opening the door for some unscrouplous person to purchase them, put a number on them that matches an authentic print with proper provonance, and put it back on the market to take advantage of someone. Ginger is right on... you are perpetuating a problem that is eroding the provenance guarantee and the amusing part is that you can have no guarantee the same thing hasn't happened with the print you paid for and feel is legitimate. Surely you can see how this is an issue!
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on May 20, 2008 21:37:17 GMT 1, I don’t think Richy you should even waste your time answering their questions and whatever...just the fact that all most are worried about is money money money and a value...well eBay value that is. Pretty disturbing and sad, a lot of good conversations started and no comments/additions because so many are worried about the next way to flip some work...started a new thread about new artists not talked about much and got one message...should have talked about value value value! Funny part about it is Banksy makes fun of these same type of people in his art...obsessed with money and such and what it is selling for on eBay. Well this forum in many ways is just another eBay...what happened to truly enjoying the art for what it is, not just the value? I know this is not everyone but wow...
you what?
we are talking about potential stolen property here so get your facts straight- no-one cares about "values"! in fact people should just get a high res print out if they want the image rather than pissing a couple hundred quid up the wall
I don’t think Richy you should even waste your time answering their questions and whatever...just the fact that all most are worried about is money money money and a value...well eBay value that is. Pretty disturbing and sad, a lot of good conversations started and no comments/additions because so many are worried about the next way to flip some work...started a new thread about new artists not talked about much and got one message...should have talked about value value value! Funny part about it is Banksy makes fun of these same type of people in his art...obsessed with money and such and what it is selling for on eBay. Well this forum in many ways is just another eBay...what happened to truly enjoying the art for what it is, not just the value? I know this is not everyone but wow... you what? we are talking about potential stolen property here so get your facts straight- no-one cares about "values"! in fact people should just get a high res print out if they want the image rather than pissing a couple hundred quid up the wall
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grafffan
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by grafffan on May 20, 2008 21:45:49 GMT 1, Its just hilarious some of the discussions on here....no one cares about values hu? That is why when so many of the time the prices are the same or higher than the eBay sold price. Come on, no one cares hu...good one mate!
Its just hilarious some of the discussions on here....no one cares about values hu? That is why when so many of the time the prices are the same or higher than the eBay sold price. Come on, no one cares hu...good one mate!
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by rosstierney on May 20, 2008 21:56:33 GMT 1, you should really send those off to POW
there's no difference between:
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130224147411&ssPageName=ADME
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cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300226266824&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020
pow have had the latter in hand & all they did was punch a little hole into the bottom right hand corner
they know their hands are tied because these prints are already in circulation & money has already been exchanged
the problem isn't rich00, it's whoever distributed them in the first place. if i was to hazard a guess, i'd say it was an individual working for the printing company looking to make a few quid on the side.
the only way pow could remove these from circulation, that's if they even wanted to, would be to offer an incentive. there's no way the people who own them are going to accept a loss of a few hundred quid, just for the sake of the industry. i know i wouldn't.
you should really send those off to POW there's no difference between: cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130224147411&ssPageName=ADME& cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300226266824&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020pow have had the latter in hand & all they did was punch a little hole into the bottom right hand corner they know their hands are tied because these prints are already in circulation & money has already been exchanged the problem isn't rich00, it's whoever distributed them in the first place. if i was to hazard a guess, i'd say it was an individual working for the printing company looking to make a few quid on the side. the only way pow could remove these from circulation, that's if they even wanted to, would be to offer an incentive. there's no way the people who own them are going to accept a loss of a few hundred quid, just for the sake of the industry. i know i wouldn't.
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clipit101
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by clipit101 on May 20, 2008 21:57:07 GMT 1, Jesus guys calm down, you'd have thought he'd killed someone. If he's selling them at least he's been honest. Ive got a backdoor print and couldn't give a shit if its real fake or whatever, to me and many others its an affordable Banksy. Good luck with the sale richy00
Jesus guys calm down, you'd have thought he'd killed someone. If he's selling them at least he's been honest. Ive got a backdoor print and couldn't give a shit if its real fake or whatever, to me and many others its an affordable Banksy. Good luck with the sale richy00
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by richy00 on May 20, 2008 21:57:26 GMT 1, its funny how you get uptight about stolen property when it affects your arts value, or maybe you might get shafted on a fake print but we happily talk about vandalism of private property and encourage it.
the print i paid for i have full prov as the guy is the original owner.
they are being sold for my housemate. He is on this forum too as a "well respected member" we both went to the dface BRP show and brought a st imp each, we then traded them on here for these 3 prints,
anyway i dont give a shit, they will be sold, if your so worried just dont buy a pulp fiction with a scratch on the top right or a monkey queen with a brown mark...
its funny how you get uptight about stolen property when it affects your arts value, or maybe you might get shafted on a fake print but we happily talk about vandalism of private property and encourage it.
the print i paid for i have full prov as the guy is the original owner.
they are being sold for my housemate. He is on this forum too as a "well respected member" we both went to the dface BRP show and brought a st imp each, we then traded them on here for these 3 prints,
anyway i dont give a shit, they will be sold, if your so worried just dont buy a pulp fiction with a scratch on the top right or a monkey queen with a brown mark...
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backdoor prints 99p start on ebay now, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on May 20, 2008 21:58:06 GMT 1, Its just hilarious some of the discussions on here....no one cares about values hu? That is why when so many of the time the prices are the same or higher than the eBay sold price. Come on, no one cares hu...good one mate!
what are you blabbering about?
i'm not talking about other threads im talking about these prints on THIS thread!
jesus
Its just hilarious some of the discussions on here....no one cares about values hu? That is why when so many of the time the prices are the same or higher than the eBay sold price. Come on, no one cares hu...good one mate! what are you blabbering about? i'm not talking about other threads im talking about these prints on THIS thread! jesus
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