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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 17, 2007 14:27:07 GMT 1, Does anyone know where I can get some A1 size acid free sleeves from to store my prints in? I was in London at the weekend and went to Cass Art on Berwick Street, The London Graphic Centre in Covent Garden and a couple of other art shops and they were all out of stock. Apparently there is a shortage of them as their supplier is moving warehouse so unable to deliver for a good few weeks.
If you know of any good places online that can deliver then please let me know.
Also, do you think using foam core is necessary along with the sleeves and portfolio? The reason I ask is that if I used 3mm foam core that a number of people on this forum seem to be using, then my potrfolio would be full with just a few prints. All portfolios I found at the weekend were not very wide/deep. They would probably hold about 20 sleeves/prints without the foamcore but a lot less with it, maybe half a dozen.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Does anyone know where I can get some A1 size acid free sleeves from to store my prints in? I was in London at the weekend and went to Cass Art on Berwick Street, The London Graphic Centre in Covent Garden and a couple of other art shops and they were all out of stock. Apparently there is a shortage of them as their supplier is moving warehouse so unable to deliver for a good few weeks.
If you know of any good places online that can deliver then please let me know.
Also, do you think using foam core is necessary along with the sleeves and portfolio? The reason I ask is that if I used 3mm foam core that a number of people on this forum seem to be using, then my potrfolio would be full with just a few prints. All portfolios I found at the weekend were not very wide/deep. They would probably hold about 20 sleeves/prints without the foamcore but a lot less with it, maybe half a dozen.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by wezzley on Jul 17, 2007 14:51:53 GMT 1, Hiya, I shopped around bigtime, and ended up like this -
I got my A1 sleves from secol, and A1 mountboard from officegiant of all places.
I got my A0 sleves from preservationequipement and my A0 mountboard from lionpictureframing
Hiya, I shopped around bigtime, and ended up like this -
I got my A1 sleves from secol, and A1 mountboard from officegiant of all places.
I got my A0 sleves from preservationequipement and my A0 mountboard from lionpictureframing
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 17, 2007 15:10:50 GMT 1, Thanks Wezzley
For the A1 sleeves, which from the following list did you choose:
www.secol.co.uk/SLEEVES.SHTML
as I can't see the correct size on there, or am I just looking in the wrong place?
Thanks Wezzley For the A1 sleeves, which from the following list did you choose: www.secol.co.uk/SLEEVES.SHTMLas I can't see the correct size on there, or am I just looking in the wrong place? |
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 17, 2007 16:28:25 GMT 1, Thanks. Looks like the they are without the ring binder edge for portfolios though. Anyone know of any with holes?
Thanks. Looks like the they are without the ring binder edge for portfolios though. Anyone know of any with holes?
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by wezzley on Jul 17, 2007 16:41:45 GMT 1, oh yeh - no holes 
oh yeh - no holes |
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by howlinhooker on Jul 18, 2007 10:30:57 GMT 1, cheers everyone very helpfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers everyone very helpfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 18, 2007 12:11:45 GMT 1, Yeah, thanks everyone. I think I will be going with these ones:
www.graphicsdirect.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=164
Does anyone know if the plastic is acid free as well as the black paper?
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 19, 2007 12:17:50 GMT 1, I just got an email back from Chris at Graphics Direct Ltd who said:
"Sorry it has taken some time to get back to you I have been waiting for an answer from our suppliers. Unfortunately our supplier is looking at changing to acid free sleeves very soon, however this will not be happening until aprox a couple of months time as they still have stocks of their old sleeves.
Sorry I cannot help further."
So it looks like the sleeves they use are currently not acid free. Anyone know of anyone else, or what do people think of storing the prints in these for a few months until they do stock the acid free ones? You think the prints will be ok in the for this amount of time?
I just got an email back from Chris at Graphics Direct Ltd who said:
"Sorry it has taken some time to get back to you I have been waiting for an answer from our suppliers. Unfortunately our supplier is looking at changing to acid free sleeves very soon, however this will not be happening until aprox a couple of months time as they still have stocks of their old sleeves.
Sorry I cannot help further."
So it looks like the sleeves they use are currently not acid free. Anyone know of anyone else, or what do people think of storing the prints in these for a few months until they do stock the acid free ones? You think the prints will be ok in the for this amount of time?
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by slacker on Jul 19, 2007 12:31:21 GMT 1, oops - i'm using those sleeves.
so the paper in the sleeves is acid free but the sleeves themselves aren't? seems crazy to me.
oops - i'm using those sleeves.
so the paper in the sleeves is acid free but the sleeves themselves aren't? seems crazy to me.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 19, 2007 13:11:51 GMT 1, Yes that right. The ad on their website never mentioned the plastic being acid free so I emailed them the other day. The post I just added was their response. I'm not sure what difference it will make to your prints if you stored them in them for a few months, but from reading on this forum acid free is the way to go. Its a shame that they are not acid free as they black paper would be perfect for making the prints display better.
Anyone know of any other places to get similar A1 sleeves but with acid free plastic and paper?
Yes that right. The ad on their website never mentioned the plastic being acid free so I emailed them the other day. The post I just added was their response. I'm not sure what difference it will make to your prints if you stored them in them for a few months, but from reading on this forum acid free is the way to go. Its a shame that they are not acid free as they black paper would be perfect for making the prints display better.
Anyone know of any other places to get similar A1 sleeves but with acid free plastic and paper?
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by slacker on Jul 19, 2007 13:40:48 GMT 1, i've only had my prints in the sleeves for a few weeks but i reckon i'll be taking them out tonight now.
i've only had my prints in the sleeves for a few weeks but i reckon i'll be taking them out tonight now.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Jul 19, 2007 14:06:43 GMT 1, So how you going to store them now? No where seems to be selling the right kind of sleeves.
So how you going to store them now? No where seems to be selling the right kind of sleeves.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by slacker on Jul 19, 2007 21:13:01 GMT 1, luckily i can leave it flat so i think i'll just store them inside the portfolio between sheets of acid free foam board for now. that should keep them safe until i can source some new sleeves.
luckily i can leave it flat so i think i'll just store them inside the portfolio between sheets of acid free foam board for now. that should keep them safe until i can source some new sleeves.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by orangematt on Jul 19, 2007 21:32:19 GMT 1, Hiya.. not sure if these are of any interest to you,, i use them for my collection, after failing to find any reasonably priced archive storage i ended up importing these in bulk from usa.. as i ended up with so many i have occasionally sold them in packs of 10 on eBay for ยฃ10 = p&p ยฃ4.50
they are produced by Krystal Seal , slightly smaller than A1 and they dont have the portfolio ring holes.. But i do believe they are a good solution to storage problems ! Please do let me know if any of you would like to check them out also appreciate any information if any problems have arisen from using these ( as i say my whole collection -apart from the pieces on the walls obviously- are in these envelopes )
PACK OF 10 - 22inch by 30 inch
KRYSTAL SEAL
SELF SEALING ART, PRINT & PHOTO ENVELOPES.
For long or short term protection of your valuable artwork.
ARCHIVAL and CRYSTAL CLEAR
made of 2 mil Polypropylene
accepts mounted and matted artwork
Suitable for storage of prints, original artwork, drawings, watercolours, photographs and ink jet prints.
All the best, MAtt
(pm me if interested)( ps. i am not a dealer , just another collector )
Hiya.. not sure if these are of any interest to you,, i use them for my collection, after failing to find any reasonably priced archive storage i ended up importing these in bulk from usa.. as i ended up with so many i have occasionally sold them in packs of 10 on eBay for ยฃ10 = p&p ยฃ4.50
they are produced by Krystal Seal , slightly smaller than A1 and they dont have the portfolio ring holes.. But i do believe they are a good solution to storage problems ! Please do let me know if any of you would like to check them out also appreciate any information if any problems have arisen from using these ( as i say my whole collection -apart from the pieces on the walls obviously- are in these envelopes )
PACK OF 10 - 22inch by 30 inch
KRYSTAL SEAL
SELF SEALING ART, PRINT & PHOTO ENVELOPES.
For long or short term protection of your valuable artwork.
ARCHIVAL and CRYSTAL CLEAR
made of 2 mil Polypropylene
accepts mounted and matted artwork
Suitable for storage of prints, original artwork, drawings, watercolours, photographs and ink jet prints.
All the best, MAtt
(pm me if interested)( ps. i am not a dealer , just another collector )
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Danger Mouse on Aug 14, 2007 10:08:03 GMT 1, I have contacted a number of suppliers I found through Google and got the following response:
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www.officegiant.co.uk/products.asp?ProductID=DL94770
The confirmed that the plastic is acid free. However when I checked them against the Daler-Rowney website site (see below), they are not actually acid free!! Price is รยฃ2.42 each
Price for 12 = รยฃ34.16 with VAT as
Delivery is Free for UK orders over รยฃ25.00 ex.vat
Orders below รยฃ25 are subject to a delivery charge of รยฃ2.95.
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www.internet-stationers.co.uk/Shop/istationers_shop/index.asp?productID=5040&deptID=3567&ptype=3
They come from the same manufacturer as above and they confirmed they are totally acid free also. However when I checked them against the Daler-Rowney website site (see below), they are not actually acid free!!
Same price at รยฃ2.42 each, but work out slighty more expensive for 10 or more due to free postage on others.
Price for 12 = รยฃ39.70 with VAT
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www.ziggyart.co.uk/products/portfolios/portfolio_sleeves/mapac_archival_sleeves_150_micron.asp
Out of stock.
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www.technicalsales.co.uk/?id=products&item=9
The confirmed they are totally acid free. Price is รยฃ3.99 each.
Price for 12 = รยฃ47.88 + รยฃ13.50 P&P, so รยฃ61.38 in total
I ordered these ones!! The best I could find in the UK that were in stock and totally acid free !!!
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www.mapac.com/art/products/sleeves-and-presenters/sleeves/polypropylene-archival-sleeves-150-micron
The confirmed they are totally acid free, but they are out of stock until end of August due to their factory moving location and being unable to make them.
Price รยฃ4 each, sold in minimum of packs of 5, so รยฃ20 for pack of 5.
Orders to public must be over รยฃ100 or will incur a รยฃ10 delivery charge.
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Secol stock A1 acid free pockets but they do not have punched holes for portfolios.
These are just a plain A1 pocket, sealed on three sides. Priced at รยฃ101.70 per pack of fifty, excluding carriage and VAT.
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www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1818
A1 Elite Display Sleeve (801 830 100).
150 Micron, long term storage, made from polypropylene.
www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1830
A1 Professional Display Sleeve (801 810 100).
190 micron, made from PVC.
www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1835
A1 Essential Display Sleeve (801 820 100).
150 micron, made from PVC.
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I have contacted a number of suppliers I found through Google and got the following response: --- www.officegiant.co.uk/products.asp?ProductID=DL94770The confirmed that the plastic is acid free. However when I checked them against the Daler-Rowney website site (see below), they are not actually acid free!! Price is รยฃ2.42 each Price for 12 = รยฃ34.16 with VAT as Delivery is Free for UK orders over รยฃ25.00 ex.vat Orders below รยฃ25 are subject to a delivery charge of รยฃ2.95. --- www.internet-stationers.co.uk/Shop/istationers_shop/index.asp?productID=5040&deptID=3567&ptype=3They come from the same manufacturer as above and they confirmed they are totally acid free also. However when I checked them against the Daler-Rowney website site (see below), they are not actually acid free!! Same price at รยฃ2.42 each, but work out slighty more expensive for 10 or more due to free postage on others. Price for 12 = รยฃ39.70 with VAT --- www.ziggyart.co.uk/products/portfolios/portfolio_sleeves/mapac_archival_sleeves_150_micron.aspOut of stock. --- www.technicalsales.co.uk/?id=products&item=9The confirmed they are totally acid free. Price is รยฃ3.99 each. Price for 12 = รยฃ47.88 + รยฃ13.50 P&P, so รยฃ61.38 in total I ordered these ones!! The best I could find in the UK that were in stock and totally acid free !!! --- www.mapac.com/art/products/sleeves-and-presenters/sleeves/polypropylene-archival-sleeves-150-micronThe confirmed they are totally acid free, but they are out of stock until end of August due to their factory moving location and being unable to make them. Price รยฃ4 each, sold in minimum of packs of 5, so รยฃ20 for pack of 5. Orders to public must be over รยฃ100 or will incur a รยฃ10 delivery charge. --- Secol stock A1 acid free pockets but they do not have punched holes for portfolios. These are just a plain A1 pocket, sealed on three sides. Priced at รยฃ101.70 per pack of fifty, excluding carriage and VAT. --- www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1818A1 Elite Display Sleeve (801 830 100). 150 Micron, long term storage, made from polypropylene. www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1830A1 Professional Display Sleeve (801 810 100). 190 micron, made from PVC. www.daler-rowney.com/prod_catalogue/ProductPage.asp?category=13&brand=124&ProductID=1835A1 Essential Display Sleeve (801 820 100). 150 micron, made from PVC. --- |
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by mcnuts on Aug 14, 2007 10:12:37 GMT 1, +1 DM great info. Was a shambles trying to get "acid-free" info and many weren't what they claimed. cheers for this.
+1 DM great info. Was a shambles trying to get "acid-free" info and many weren't what they claimed. cheers for this.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by corblimeylimey on Aug 14, 2007 10:31:10 GMT 1, It seems what you've discovered is that polypropylene is the 'safe' plastic, the daler rowney elite sleeves are made of polypropylene, are they the only sleeves that are 100% safe?
I'm surprised the plastic has much effect, surely it's nothing compared to the effect the wrong type of paper or card could have.
It seems what you've discovered is that polypropylene is the 'safe' plastic, the daler rowney elite sleeves are made of polypropylene, are they the only sleeves that are 100% safe?
I'm surprised the plastic has much effect, surely it's nothing compared to the effect the wrong type of paper or card could have.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Andy'77 on Aug 14, 2007 13:41:36 GMT 1, Balls, I got those Graphics direct ones thinking they were acid free. Then was told it was the card that wasn't acid free so removed that, only now to find out that the card is the only bit that was.... Oh dear....
Balls, I got those Graphics direct ones thinking they were acid free. Then was told it was the card that wasn't acid free so removed that, only now to find out that the card is the only bit that was.... Oh dear....
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Run Pig Run on Aug 14, 2007 17:31:49 GMT 1, anyone know what this acid actually does? it all seems bit mysterious.
does the big bad acid monster eat away at whatever it touches or does the acid monster release deadly acid fumes and anything nearby will be destroyed.
ie. if you had a print in a frame with an acidic mountboard but it only just touches the edges of the print, would it burn the print away where it's touching it or ruin the whole lot.........
what happens?
anyone know what this acid actually does? it all seems bit mysterious.
does the big bad acid monster eat away at whatever it touches or does the acid monster release deadly acid fumes and anything nearby will be destroyed.
ie. if you had a print in a frame with an acidic mountboard but it only just touches the edges of the print, would it burn the print away where it's touching it or ruin the whole lot.........
what happens?
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by corblimeylimey on Aug 14, 2007 21:08:40 GMT 1, anyone know what this acid actually does? it all seems bit mysterious. does the big bad acid monster eat away at whatever it touches or does the acid monster release deadly acid fumes and anything nearby will be destroyed. ie. if you had a print in a frame with an acidic mountboard but it only just touches the edges of the print, would it burn the print away where it's touching it or ruin the whole lot......... what happens?
www.homesweethomeart.com/artprintsqa.php#qa37
Why is it important that my framing materials be acid-free?
Mount/matboard which is not chemically inert and free of acid, transfers its acidity to the paper which over time causes it to turn brown (known as mount/mat burn), become brittle, and even to disintegrate when removed from the mount/mat. Museums recommend that mounts/mats be made from 100-percent cotton rag mountboard/matboard, at least two-ply in thickness.
A less expensive alternative is "conservamat" or conservation board, which is made from highly purified pH neutral wood pulp. Some fabrics like linen, cotton, and silk are also safe to use.
www.conservationregister.com/careprintsdrawings.asp?id=4
anyone know what this acid actually does? it all seems bit mysterious. does the big bad acid monster eat away at whatever it touches or does the acid monster release deadly acid fumes and anything nearby will be destroyed. ie. if you had a print in a frame with an acidic mountboard but it only just touches the edges of the print, would it burn the print away where it's touching it or ruin the whole lot......... what happens? Why is it important that my framing materials be acid-free? Mount/matboard which is not chemically inert and free of acid, transfers its acidity to the paper which over time causes it to turn brown (known as mount/mat burn), become brittle, and even to disintegrate when removed from the mount/mat. Museums recommend that mounts/mats be made from 100-percent cotton rag mountboard/matboard, at least two-ply in thickness. A less expensive alternative is "conservamat" or conservation board, which is made from highly purified pH neutral wood pulp. Some fabrics like linen, cotton, and silk are also safe to use. www.conservationregister.com/careprintsdrawings.asp?id=4 |
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by kingkambo on Aug 22, 2007 16:57:58 GMT 1, Atlantis Art always have acid free archival sleeves in stock... all sizes.
Atlantis Art always have acid free archival sleeves in stock... all sizes.
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by andrewd on Sept 23, 2007 12:09:30 GMT 1, ^^^^^^^ What Kingkambo said
www.atlantisart.co.uk
went there on Saturday, it's HUGE, just about everything you could possibly need, seems that Sweettoof and a few others have been there as there are several paintings on the walls outside.
^^^^^^^ What Kingkambo said www.atlantisart.co.ukwent there on Saturday, it's HUGE, just about everything you could possibly need, seems that Sweettoof and a few others have been there as there are several paintings on the walls outside. |
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A1 Acid Free Art Sleeves, by Richard on Jan 10, 2008 23:10:47 GMT 1, Cool - I have bunged in some thick card to stop bending and will not bother with tissue. It seems to defeat the object somewhat if you can't look at the work easily!
Cool - I have bunged in some thick card to stop bending and will not bother with tissue. It seems to defeat the object somewhat if you can't look at the work easily!
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