themightyreds
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February 2007
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Glass against print, by themightyreds on Apr 19, 2007 23:06:52 GMT 1, Anyone know if its really not ok to let the print touch the glass of the frame its in, or if it causes any damage at all??
Been looking at getting one of the frames from the 'Get your Banksy's out..' thead that has a J&J (i think) sandwiched between two sheets of glass and wondered if that would affect/harm the print in any way...
Anyone know if its really not ok to let the print touch the glass of the frame its in, or if it causes any damage at all??
Been looking at getting one of the frames from the 'Get your Banksy's out..' thead that has a J&J (i think) sandwiched between two sheets of glass and wondered if that would affect/harm the print in any way...
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Glass against print, by bristolmassive on May 10, 2007 17:29:15 GMT 1, you're not supposed to but I do have a couple of prints in the frames you're talking about (habitat)  They've been in for a couple of months now and I do check them regularly for damage etc but they're fine.
I'm convinced that as long as you keep them away from moisture, a few monitored months against glass isn't going to ruin the print. BTW the habitat frames look superb for the money.
you're not supposed to but I do have a couple of prints in the frames you're talking about (habitat) They've been in for a couple of months now and I do check them regularly for damage etc but they're fine. I'm convinced that as long as you keep them away from moisture, a few monitored months against glass isn't going to ruin the print. BTW the habitat frames look superb for the money. |
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pw
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Glass against print, by pw on May 10, 2007 17:44:05 GMT 1, you're really playing a dangerous game by letting your print touch the glass. 99 times out of 100 you'll be ok, but you'll kick yourself if you happen to be the other 1%.
I think you can get some sort of spacers to put between the glass and frame, resulting in the glass being removed from the print. or you could probably make your own quite easily.
you're really playing a dangerous game by letting your print touch the glass. 99 times out of 100 you'll be ok, but you'll kick yourself if you happen to be the other 1%.
I think you can get some sort of spacers to put between the glass and frame, resulting in the glass being removed from the print. or you could probably make your own quite easily.
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CR
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Glass against print, by CR on May 10, 2007 17:47:22 GMT 1, I've looked into spacers alot and its never easy!
The lip which the glass lays on is rarley more than 1mm which means you need to get thin wood or a thin mount.
If you go for a mount for a 50x70 print your talking about a mount 1mm thick all the way round, which ends up being really flimsy and hard to fit in the frame without it showing!
I'd love to know how people have managed to do theirs.
CR
I've looked into spacers alot and its never easy!
The lip which the glass lays on is rarley more than 1mm which means you need to get thin wood or a thin mount.
If you go for a mount for a 50x70 print your talking about a mount 1mm thick all the way round, which ends up being really flimsy and hard to fit in the frame without it showing!
I'd love to know how people have managed to do theirs.
CR
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Glass against print, by bristolmassive on May 10, 2007 18:29:45 GMT 1, you're really playing a dangerous game by letting your print touch the glass. 99 times out of 100 you'll be ok, but you'll kick yourself if you happen to be the other 1%. I think you can get some sort of spacers to put between the glass and frame, resulting in the glass being removed from the print. or you could probably make your own quite easily.
agree with you pw - this is only a stop gap while I gather the cash to pro frame my collection. I still reckon short term they'll be no problems. Fingers crossed
CR - just sent you a PM re your message a couple of weeks ago.
you're really playing a dangerous game by letting your print touch the glass. 99 times out of 100 you'll be ok, but you'll kick yourself if you happen to be the other 1%. I think you can get some sort of spacers to put between the glass and frame, resulting in the glass being removed from the print. or you could probably make your own quite easily. agree with you pw - this is only a stop gap while I gather the cash to pro frame my collection. I still reckon short term they'll be no problems. Fingers crossed CR - just sent you a PM re your message a couple of weeks ago. |
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Glass against print, by carlito on May 11, 2007 11:30:21 GMT 1, anywhere you can buy spacers online?
anywhere you can buy spacers online?
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Run Pig Run
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Glass against print, by Run Pig Run on May 11, 2007 16:14:17 GMT 1, just go into a framing shop buy a big bit of mount board and cut it with a sharp knife. thats all a framers will do so why pay them.
just go into a framing shop buy a big bit of mount board and cut it with a sharp knife. thats all a framers will do so why pay them.
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Glass against print, by corblimeylimey on May 11, 2007 18:50:49 GMT 1, bombhugger, actually that's not what my framers did or how rolyateel did it, you can get plastic strips, the cross section looks rectangular or square, and they're available in white, black, and clear (possibly more) they have a self adhesive strip on one side which fixes to the glass, and if you take a look at that link I posted you can see it hides in the frame rebate very well, and holds the print back from the glass by about 5mm.
bombhugger, actually that's not what my framers did or how rolyateel did it, you can get plastic strips, the cross section looks rectangular or square, and they're available in white, black, and clear (possibly more) they have a self adhesive strip on one side which fixes to the glass, and if you take a look at that link I posted you can see it hides in the frame rebate very well, and holds the print back from the glass by about 5mm.
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romanywg
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Glass against print, by romanywg on May 11, 2007 22:39:53 GMT 1, I've framed this screenprint about 20 years ago and it is right against the glass, no spacers, hadn't even heard of them then. It hasn't faded at all. Also I think I cut the bottom off the print to get it into the frame, cutting off the edition number and signature! Let's say it's all a learning curve!
I've framed this screenprint about 20 years ago and it is right against the glass, no spacers, hadn't even heard of them then. It hasn't faded at all. Also I think I cut the bottom off the print to get it into the frame, cutting off the edition number and signature! Let's say it's all a learning curve! |
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Pure Evil
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Glass against print, by Pure Evil on May 12, 2007 15:47:00 GMT 1, apparently the habitat frames are NOT acid free... which is a problem, so put some acid free paper BEHIND the print to protect it...
mind you I just bought 4 of the 100cm by 70cm frames from habitat and I haven't bothered with the whole acid-free thing... I LOVE acid.
apparently the habitat frames are NOT acid free... which is a problem, so put some acid free paper BEHIND the print to protect it...
mind you I just bought 4 of the 100cm by 70cm frames from habitat and I haven't bothered with the whole acid-free thing... I LOVE acid.
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Glass against print, by corblimeylimey on May 12, 2007 16:01:20 GMT 1, You're living life on the edge aren't you Mr Evil ;D
I replaced the backing of my Habitat frames with Corrie-Core which is acid free and also a lot less dusty than the hardboard back they do come with.
You're living life on the edge aren't you Mr Evil ;D
I replaced the backing of my Habitat frames with Corrie-Core which is acid free and also a lot less dusty than the hardboard back they do come with.
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romanywg
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Glass against print, by romanywg on May 12, 2007 23:21:27 GMT 1, Where do you find corrie core cbl?
Where do you find corrie core cbl?
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Glass against print, by corblimeylimey on May 13, 2007 13:55:35 GMT 1, My framer supplied it.
Actually I was wrong it's called Corrie-Cor, I've just googled it and even though it's a registered trade mark brand name, nothing is coming up, try asking your framer. Basically its like a good quality cardboard, pretty strong and rigid.
My framer supplied it.
Actually I was wrong it's called Corrie-Cor, I've just googled it and even though it's a registered trade mark brand name, nothing is coming up, try asking your framer. Basically its like a good quality cardboard, pretty strong and rigid.
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Run Pig Run
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Glass against print, by Run Pig Run on Jun 3, 2007 19:27:41 GMT 1, bombhugger, actually that's not what my framers did or how rolyateel did it, you can get plastic strips, the cross section looks rectangular or square, and they're available in white, black, and clear (possibly more) they have a self adhesive strip on one side which fixes to the glass, and if you take a look at that link I posted you can see it hides in the frame rebate very well, and holds the print back from the glass by about 5mm.
yeah, sorry I didn't read the post properly and all the way through.
But I bought a acid-free peice of mountboard from my framers for ยฃ10 - it's about 5mm thick and i've used it for spacers on loads of my stuff and it works really well. although the proper spacers do sound better if you can get hold of them
heres one I did the other day.......
bombhugger, actually that's not what my framers did or how rolyateel did it, you can get plastic strips, the cross section looks rectangular or square, and they're available in white, black, and clear (possibly more) they have a self adhesive strip on one side which fixes to the glass, and if you take a look at that link I posted you can see it hides in the frame rebate very well, and holds the print back from the glass by about 5mm. yeah, sorry I didn't read the post properly and all the way through. But I bought a acid-free peice of mountboard from my framers for ยฃ10 - it's about 5mm thick and i've used it for spacers on loads of my stuff and it works really well. although the proper spacers do sound better if you can get hold of them heres one I did the other day....... |
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katlazy08
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Glass against print, by katlazy08 on Feb 4, 2009 11:49:53 GMT 1, I've framed this screenprint about 20 years ago and it is right against the glass, no spacers, hadn't even heard of them then. It hasn't faded at all.
The problem isn't fading, it's that your print may stick to the glass. When you come to re-frame it you may (or may not) have a nasty surprise.
It doesn't happen always, but when it does, your print is completely ruined.
- Light will fade the print (prevent this using UV filter glass & keep out of direct sunlight)
- Acid will burn paper - leaving a nicotine style stain (prevent this using acid free backing, tape and mount card)
- Moisture will ripple the print (and aid print sticking to the glass)
If you need a budget solution - then get a ready made frame that has an aperture roughly 6" wider and taller than your print.
Ask your local framer to cut a piece of backing board and a double/triple mount to fit the print to the frame. And fit it yourself if you have the gear.
A mount isn't expensive, and it makes a huge difference.
The spaced idea is nice too... but fiddly if you're doing it yourself.
I've framed this screenprint about 20 years ago and it is right against the glass, no spacers, hadn't even heard of them then. It hasn't faded at all. The problem isn't fading, it's that your print may stick to the glass. When you come to re-frame it you may (or may not) have a nasty surprise. It doesn't happen always, but when it does, your print is completely ruined. - Light will fade the print (prevent this using UV filter glass & keep out of direct sunlight)
- Acid will burn paper - leaving a nicotine style stain (prevent this using acid free backing, tape and mount card)
- Moisture will ripple the print (and aid print sticking to the glass)
If you need a budget solution - then get a ready made frame that has an aperture roughly 6" wider and taller than your print. Ask your local framer to cut a piece of backing board and a double/triple mount to fit the print to the frame. And fit it yourself if you have the gear. A mount isn't expensive, and it makes a huge difference. The spaced idea is nice too... but fiddly if you're doing it yourself. |
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They've been in for a couple of months now and I do check them regularly for damage etc but they're fine. 
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