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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Ruggs on Dec 1, 2009 23:54:39 GMT 1, Alen Yentob talks to contemporary art collectors about the Own Art Scheme.
Alen Yentob talks to contemporary art collectors about the Own Art Scheme.
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 23:57:52 GMT 1, he gave a banksy away 
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 23:59:58 GMT 1, and sold the other one
and sold the other one
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sashaz
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by sashaz on Dec 2, 2009 0:04:43 GMT 1, there is some real rubbish! each to their own
there is some real rubbish! each to their own
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by sashaz on Dec 2, 2009 0:11:28 GMT 1, ray ceasar is nice.
ray ceasar is nice.
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Winter
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Winter on Dec 2, 2009 0:40:04 GMT 1, I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent
I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 1:16:11 GMT 1, I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent
Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings
I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by imbue on Dec 2, 2009 2:39:07 GMT 1, I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings
Hey Cartrain, fu*k off.
I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings Hey Cartrain, fu*k off. |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 3:16:39 GMT 1, Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings Hey Cartrain, fu*k off.
lol
play nice 
Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings Hey Cartrain, fu*k off. lol play nice |
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Rsyok
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Rsyok on Dec 2, 2009 10:13:57 GMT 1, Here here Imbue.
Here here Imbue.
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Winter
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Winter on Dec 2, 2009 10:46:49 GMT 1, I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings
If you've actually seen his work you might realise most would take more than one person to produce. I'm pretty sure it's not just down to laziness.
I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings If you've actually seen his work you might realise most would take more than one person to produce. I'm pretty sure it's not just down to laziness. |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by darrenrapley on Dec 2, 2009 11:01:55 GMT 1, So Cartrain is slagging off Kapoor?
So Cartrain is slagging off Kapoor?
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by angel41 on Dec 2, 2009 13:20:28 GMT 1, Kapoor's work is excellent. The Imagine programme on him the other week was trully inspiring.
Kapoor's work is excellent. The Imagine programme on him the other week was trully inspiring.
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sashaz
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by sashaz on Dec 2, 2009 14:40:23 GMT 1, koons, kapur, hirst, warhol they all had underlings to do that actual work.
koons, kapur, hirst, warhol they all had underlings to do that actual work.
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by topper007 on Dec 2, 2009 18:00:09 GMT 1, So Cartrain is slagging off Kapoor?
It would seem so. Maybe he's jealous that the RA didn't chose him as the first living artist to be given a solo show 
And as for having a problem with work not being entirely original/all the artist's own work, where do we begin?
So Cartrain is slagging off Kapoor? It would seem so. Maybe he's jealous that the RA didn't chose him as the first living artist to be given a solo show And as for having a problem with work not being entirely original/all the artist's own work, where do we begin? |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by RYCA on Dec 3, 2009 0:51:16 GMT 1, anish kapoor, the guy is awesome.
any designer/artist with an imagination and ideas so big that it requires a skilled staff/team to help make their ideas a reality, should not be jeered. This has been common practice for centuries (and more)
Isambard Kingdom Brunel never actually built anything, does this make him any less of a engineer ?
anish kapoor, the guy is awesome.
any designer/artist with an imagination and ideas so big that it requires a skilled staff/team to help make their ideas a reality, should not be jeered. This has been common practice for centuries (and more)
Isambard Kingdom Brunel never actually built anything, does this make him any less of a engineer ?
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gozgoz
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by gozgoz on Dec 3, 2009 1:11:19 GMT 1, Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings If you've actually seen his work you might realise most would take more than one person to produce. I'm pretty sure it's not just down to laziness.
really? I thought he was a lazy bast*rd who just couldnt be arsed to carry and raise that friggin 84m trumpet like thing and hoist it up against the New Zealand gale winds all by himself. pfft. Bum.
www.sculpture.org.uk/image/910000000542/1/
check it. I couldnt believe my eyes. I thought it was some weird cameera trick or something.
Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings If you've actually seen his work you might realise most would take more than one person to produce. I'm pretty sure it's not just down to laziness. really? I thought he was a lazy bast*rd who just couldnt be arsed to carry and raise that friggin 84m trumpet like thing and hoist it up against the New Zealand gale winds all by himself. pfft. Bum. www.sculpture.org.uk/image/910000000542/1/check it. I couldnt believe my eyes. I thought it was some weird cameera trick or something. |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by maroom on Dec 3, 2009 12:15:58 GMT 1,
Wow - that's pretty special
Wow - that's pretty special |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by monkeyballs on Dec 3, 2009 23:11:37 GMT 1, I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings
The real work is in the imagination. Also the stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming, its the mark of truly great individuals. I'll be honest, I think you're on the wind up, as I find it very hard for anyone not to find something to admire in Kapoors work, if not, then I'll have to put my old man hat on and say 'one day sonny, you'll understand'
I love Imagine, the Anish Kapoor was excellent Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings The real work is in the imagination. Also the stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming, its the mark of truly great individuals. I'll be honest, I think you're on the wind up, as I find it very hard for anyone not to find something to admire in Kapoors work, if not, then I'll have to put my old man hat on and say 'one day sonny, you'll understand' |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 0:19:27 GMT 1, Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings The real work is in the imagination. Also the stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming, its the mark of truly great individuals. I'll be honest, I think you're on the wind up, as I find it very hard for anyone not to find something to admire in Kapoors work, if not, then I'll have to put my old man hat on and say 'one day sonny, you'll understand'
Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost
Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph
to many links are lost
Are you sure? I always thought he's always got others to do the real work, Then complained when they got it wrong to his feeble way of thinking 'kAPOOR- NO Humility regarding his short comings The real work is in the imagination. Also the stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming, its the mark of truly great individuals. I'll be honest, I think you're on the wind up, as I find it very hard for anyone not to find something to admire in Kapoors work, if not, then I'll have to put my old man hat on and say 'one day sonny, you'll understand' Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost |
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Pattycakes
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Pattycakes on Dec 4, 2009 9:25:36 GMT 1, Cartrain, you really don't seem to get it. Artist's throughout history have had assistants, Michelangelo used a number of assistants notably in the sistine chapel commission - does that make him less of an artist? Rodin didn't cast or re-size a single bronze in his entire lifetime, that was down to assistants, he only made the plasters, does that make the Thinker less of a work? Artists who are successful in their lifetime employ assistants, it enables them to create bigger better works, works that on their own they simply could not accomplish. It's all part of the process of creating art, and has been for hundreds of years, who are you to challenge practices established by the likes of Michelangelo? You're a silly little boy with very limited experience, why don't you go away and read some books rather than spend your time stealing pencils - then at least you might be able to contribute in a semi-intelligent way.
Cartrain, you really don't seem to get it. Artist's throughout history have had assistants, Michelangelo used a number of assistants notably in the sistine chapel commission - does that make him less of an artist? Rodin didn't cast or re-size a single bronze in his entire lifetime, that was down to assistants, he only made the plasters, does that make the Thinker less of a work? Artists who are successful in their lifetime employ assistants, it enables them to create bigger better works, works that on their own they simply could not accomplish. It's all part of the process of creating art, and has been for hundreds of years, who are you to challenge practices established by the likes of Michelangelo? You're a silly little boy with very limited experience, why don't you go away and read some books rather than spend your time stealing pencils - then at least you might be able to contribute in a semi-intelligent way.
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by sashaz on Dec 4, 2009 10:34:33 GMT 1, rembrant, rubens, raphael, michaleangelo, leonardo (not all the TMNT), velasquez and so many other very respected and loved artists had asistants to get ti to a state that the master would finish.
rembrant, rubens, raphael, michaleangelo, leonardo (not all the TMNT), velasquez and so many other very respected and loved artists had asistants to get ti to a state that the master would finish.
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 13:55:47 GMT 1, Cartrain, you really don't seem to get it. Artist's throughout history have had assistants, Michelangelo used a number of assistants notably in the sistine chapel commission - does that make him less of an artist? Rodin didn't cast or re-size a single bronze in his entire lifetime, that was down to assistants, he only made the plasters, does that make the Thinker less of a work? Artists who are successful in their lifetime employ assistants, it enables them to create bigger better works, works that on their own they simply could not accomplish. It's all part of the process of creating art, and has been for hundreds of years, who are you to challenge practices established by the likes of Michelangelo? You're a silly little boy with very limited experience, why don't you go away and read some books rather than spend your time stealing pencils - then at least you might be able to contribute in a semi-intelligent way.
Why did you have to reduce your response down to insults?
up until that point i thought you had a point
Cartrain, you really don't seem to get it. Artist's throughout history have had assistants, Michelangelo used a number of assistants notably in the sistine chapel commission - does that make him less of an artist? Rodin didn't cast or re-size a single bronze in his entire lifetime, that was down to assistants, he only made the plasters, does that make the Thinker less of a work? Artists who are successful in their lifetime employ assistants, it enables them to create bigger better works, works that on their own they simply could not accomplish. It's all part of the process of creating art, and has been for hundreds of years, who are you to challenge practices established by the likes of Michelangelo? You're a silly little boy with very limited experience, why don't you go away and read some books rather than spend your time stealing pencils - then at least you might be able to contribute in a semi-intelligent way. Why did you have to reduce your response down to insults? up until that point i thought you had a point |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by gozgoz on Dec 4, 2009 14:01:23 GMT 1, Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost Doesnt Richard Prince do that?
Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost Doesnt Richard Prince do that? |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by gozgoz on Dec 4, 2009 14:05:35 GMT 1, Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost but what if its just not humanly possible for one man to do? Like most of Anish Kapoor's stuff? Or Frank Gehry's stuff for instance? I dont understand this at all... If you want to argue for arguments sake, when u make your collages using pictures from books, arent u employing the works of others in your work? Why dont u go and take photos of bush/ blair yourself? where's the hands-on passion?
Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost but what if its just not humanly possible for one man to do? Like most of Anish Kapoor's stuff? Or Frank Gehry's stuff for instance? I dont understand this at all... If you want to argue for arguments sake, when u make your collages using pictures from books, arent u employing the works of others in your work? Why dont u go and take photos of bush/ blair yourself? where's the hands-on passion? |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by gozgoz on Dec 4, 2009 16:47:17 GMT 1, Hang on.
Isnt banksy your idol?
why doesnt it annoy you that Banksy doesnt do a lot of work on his own as well? He sure didnt handmake those statutes or that huge ice cream truck or the thinker statute or the olive carved watchtowers?
Seems like he clearly "employ[ed] others to construct [his] ideas"?
Hang on.
Isnt banksy your idol?
why doesnt it annoy you that Banksy doesnt do a lot of work on his own as well? He sure didnt handmake those statutes or that huge ice cream truck or the thinker statute or the olive carved watchtowers?
Seems like he clearly "employ[ed] others to construct [his] ideas"?
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 0:53:54 GMT 1, Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost but what if its just not humanly possible for one man to do? Like most of Anish Kapoor's stuff? Or Frank Gehry's stuff for instance? I dont understand this at all... If you want to argue for arguments sake, when u make your collages using pictures from books, arent u employing the works of others in your work? Why dont u go and take photos of bush/ blair yourself? where's the hands-on passion? Its in the manipulation of the image Love the passion i have in finding something new from the everyday seen it before image ;D
Stubborn insistence on perfection is no short coming thats very true MB But what is lost is where so many ARTISTS today employ others to construct their ideas and the hands on passion that can only be conveyed when both idea and that direct involvement is lost Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost but what if its just not humanly possible for one man to do? Like most of Anish Kapoor's stuff? Or Frank Gehry's stuff for instance? I dont understand this at all... If you want to argue for arguments sake, when u make your collages using pictures from books, arent u employing the works of others in your work? Why dont u go and take photos of bush/ blair yourself? where's the hands-on passion? Its in the manipulation of the image Love the passion i have in finding something new from the everyday seen it before image ;D |
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IMAGINE... 'OWN ART' PROGRAMME ON BBC1 NOW!, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 21:34:45 GMT 1, Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost Doesnt Richard Prince do that? who?  ////
Its like taking a photograph of a photograph of a photograph to many links are lost Doesnt Richard Prince do that? who? //// |
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