flypitcher
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Obama supports Israel murders, by flypitcher on Dec 30, 2008 20:48:19 GMT 1,
His silence is deafening.
ANOTHER SCUMBAG.
His silence is deafening.
ANOTHER SCUMBAG.
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Winter
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Obama supports Israel murders, by Winter on Dec 30, 2008 20:56:08 GMT 1, Not really art related is it
Not really art related is it
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flypitcher
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Obama supports Israel murders, by flypitcher on Dec 30, 2008 21:06:12 GMT 1, Winter think hard about what you have just written.
Winter think hard about what you have just written. |
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achtungbono
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Obama supports Israel murders, by achtungbono on Dec 30, 2008 21:09:47 GMT 1, He may not Support it per se, but given the size of the fundy Christian lobby that prays for all out war in the Middle East, so they can experience the arrival of Jesus II for the final battle on earth, its not surprising he has consistantly & subtly ensured the USAs continued support of "plucky little Israel" - and oh yes, this final battle that the fuindies wish for will mean the final chapter in humanitys short, eventful tenure on the earth and only those who have truly embraced the Lord can experience the Rapture & ascent into heaven. Google "Rapture" and see what these antidelivual morons really desire.
Traditional & poorly researched outlook on this invariably placed the blame on the Jewish Lobby , pushing an agenda, but this is more anti semitic rumourmongering than hard fact
Way to go Obama.
Change
or probabaly not
He may not Support it per se, but given the size of the fundy Christian lobby that prays for all out war in the Middle East, so they can experience the arrival of Jesus II for the final battle on earth, its not surprising he has consistantly & subtly ensured the USAs continued support of "plucky little Israel" - and oh yes, this final battle that the fuindies wish for will mean the final chapter in humanitys short, eventful tenure on the earth and only those who have truly embraced the Lord can experience the Rapture & ascent into heaven. Google "Rapture" and see what these antidelivual morons really desire.
Traditional & poorly researched outlook on this invariably placed the blame on the Jewish Lobby , pushing an agenda, but this is more anti semitic rumourmongering than hard fact
Way to go Obama.
Change
or probabaly not
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Obama supports Israel murders, by alsbabar on Dec 30, 2008 21:10:34 GMT 1, It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB
It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB
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achtungbono
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Obama supports Israel murders, by achtungbono on Dec 30, 2008 21:14:27 GMT 1, It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB
Can you see one of Obs leading art shock troops coming out with anything that actually erodes his masters policies ?
Its not like Ob has kept quite on the ME situation - pre election, he was on record as a continued fincial & moral supporter of the Israeli State - this isnt a surprise
Change
Hmmmm
It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB Can you see one of Obs leading art shock troops coming out with anything that actually erodes his masters policies ? Its not like Ob has kept quite on the ME situation - pre election, he was on record as a continued fincial & moral supporter of the Israeli State - this isnt a surprise Change Hmmmm |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by onemandown72 on Dec 30, 2008 21:18:37 GMT 1, He may not Support it per se, but given the size of the fundy Christian lobby that prays for all out war in the Middle East, so they can experience the arrival of Jesus II for the final battle on earth, its not surprising he has consistantly & subtly ensured the USAs continued support of "plucky little Israel" - and oh yes, this final battle that the fuindies wish for will mean the final chapter in humanitys short, eventful tenure on the earth and only those who have truly embraced the Lord can experience the Rapture & ascent into heaven. Google "Rapture" and see what these antidelivual morons really desire. Traditional & poorly researched outlook on this invariably placed the blame on the Jewish Lobby , pushing an agenda, but this is more anti semitic rumourmongering than hard fact Way to go Obama. Change or probabaly not
The conflict that never ends - how much money does this generate for the arms & construction industry?
I also tend to agree with Winter that this isn't art related, and not only incredibly complicated but also a hugely incendiary issue for a vast majority of people (most who have very little understanding of the problem).
It would be fairly refreshing if the thread was locked and allowed to slowly drop away.
I am in no way supporting or critizing either side here. I really don't feel I know enough about it to do so. But I would rather not see a whole load of misguided hostility arise as a result of the thread
He may not Support it per se, but given the size of the fundy Christian lobby that prays for all out war in the Middle East, so they can experience the arrival of Jesus II for the final battle on earth, its not surprising he has consistantly & subtly ensured the USAs continued support of "plucky little Israel" - and oh yes, this final battle that the fuindies wish for will mean the final chapter in humanitys short, eventful tenure on the earth and only those who have truly embraced the Lord can experience the Rapture & ascent into heaven. Google "Rapture" and see what these antidelivual morons really desire. Traditional & poorly researched outlook on this invariably placed the blame on the Jewish Lobby , pushing an agenda, but this is more anti semitic rumourmongering than hard fact Way to go Obama. Change or probabaly not The conflict that never ends - how much money does this generate for the arms & construction industry? I also tend to agree with Winter that this isn't art related, and not only incredibly complicated but also a hugely incendiary issue for a vast majority of people (most who have very little understanding of the problem). It would be fairly refreshing if the thread was locked and allowed to slowly drop away. I am in no way supporting or critizing either side here. I really don't feel I know enough about it to do so. But I would rather not see a whole load of misguided hostility arise as a result of the thread |
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Zippy
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Obama supports Israel murders, by Zippy on Dec 30, 2008 21:20:39 GMT 1, You have posted this under "Banksy + Urban & Pop Art Chat"
It doesn't fall intothis category so I suggest it gets moved or deleted.
You have posted this under "Banksy + Urban & Pop Art Chat"
It doesn't fall intothis category so I suggest it gets moved or deleted.
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Obama supports Israel murders, by veralynn on Dec 30, 2008 21:21:34 GMT 1, I am precluded from commentary due to Alsbabar's avatar, Jamie Lynn (no relation) might just have made a mistake, split condom etc, it won't happen to Miley.....
I am precluded from commentary due to Alsbabar's avatar, Jamie Lynn (no relation) might just have made a mistake, split condom etc, it won't happen to Miley.....
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flypitcher
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Obama supports Israel murders, by flypitcher on Dec 30, 2008 21:27:53 GMT 1, Ok don't mention this. Let's forget the elephant in the room and that Banksy is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine cause. So it's not about life.
Beautiful members on this forum.
Ok don't mention this. Let's forget the elephant in the room and that Banksy is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine cause. So it's not about life.
Beautiful members on this forum.
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daveart
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Obama supports Israel murders, by daveart on Dec 30, 2008 21:48:56 GMT 1, in an effort to turn this into some type of discussion on art.... could flypitcher or someone else elaborate on "Bansky is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine Cause" i am no Banksy effort.. but dont recall any of his art work that would lead me in this direction at all.. let alone believe he is 'heavily involved'
thank you.
in an effort to turn this into some type of discussion on art.... could flypitcher or someone else elaborate on "Bansky is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine Cause" i am no Banksy effort.. but dont recall any of his art work that would lead me in this direction at all.. let alone believe he is 'heavily involved'
thank you.
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Obama supports Israel murders, by alsbabar on Dec 30, 2008 21:50:38 GMT 1, people can have healthy open discussions about politics on other forums, it can give this forum a new/different direction
forum.thegiant.org/viewforum.php?f=31
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Obama supports Israel murders, by slowmo on Dec 30, 2008 21:54:23 GMT 1, 
Here's just a few examples of the oppression that Banksy dislikes so much, in terms of which side he supports in this conflict, I would say the pictures do the talking
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Obama supports Israel murders, by loucastel on Dec 30, 2008 21:58:39 GMT 1, Ok don't mention this. Let's forget the elephant in the room and that Banksy is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine cause. So it's not about life. Beautiful members on this forum.
What are you trying to achieve with this post? dont you think there is enough dissent in the middle east without trying to cause the same on this forum, most of us on here only know what the media and politicians tell us, others more informed will be either muslims or jews perhaps, I am sure though, there are wrongs on both sides, neither faction is totally blameless, and using Banksy to justyfy this post is ridiculous, that is just one persons opinion, not shared by all, a very emotional subject for a lot of people, if aired on here will cause upset for a lot I am sure, again I ask what is your agenda for posting this?
Ok don't mention this. Let's forget the elephant in the room and that Banksy is heavily involved in supporting the Palestine cause. So it's not about life. Beautiful members on this forum. What are you trying to achieve with this post? dont you think there is enough dissent in the middle east without trying to cause the same on this forum, most of us on here only know what the media and politicians tell us, others more informed will be either muslims or jews perhaps, I am sure though, there are wrongs on both sides, neither faction is totally blameless, and using Banksy to justyfy this post is ridiculous, that is just one persons opinion, not shared by all, a very emotional subject for a lot of people, if aired on here will cause upset for a lot I am sure, again I ask what is your agenda for posting this? |
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daveart
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Obama supports Israel murders, by daveart on Dec 30, 2008 22:02:50 GMT 1, "oppression that Banksy dislikes so much" -- ok i'll buy that. -- but you interpret these to 'literally' take sides between Isreal and Palestine?
the top one.. i see this is pointing out an obvious fact. but not taking sides. second one is just damn funny.
I look at the bottom one and think about modern airport security. not complex internation relations between countries and ethnic groups.
iraq/afghanistan/russia/us-guantanmo/many african countries/ there is opression everywhere. how do these take sides on the issue of Isreal? sorry if i am missing something obvious. maybe bansky has made statements that lead the interpretation of these?
"oppression that Banksy dislikes so much" -- ok i'll buy that. -- but you interpret these to 'literally' take sides between Isreal and Palestine?
the top one.. i see this is pointing out an obvious fact. but not taking sides. second one is just damn funny.
I look at the bottom one and think about modern airport security. not complex internation relations between countries and ethnic groups.
iraq/afghanistan/russia/us-guantanmo/many african countries/ there is opression everywhere. how do these take sides on the issue of Isreal? sorry if i am missing something obvious. maybe bansky has made statements that lead the interpretation of these?
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Obama supports Israel murders, by Deleted on Dec 30, 2008 22:08:27 GMT 1, great add at the top of this page, NOT!
"Learn Hebrew Online with Israel's best teachers"
great add at the top of this page, NOT!
"Learn Hebrew Online with Israel's best teachers"
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flypitcher
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Obama supports Israel murders, by flypitcher on Dec 30, 2008 22:34:39 GMT 1, Stop hijacking the thread kids.
It's about Obama playing golf while his friends sell Apache helicopters and F16 TO KILL KIDS.
Stop hijacking the thread kids.
It's about Obama playing golf while his friends sell Apache helicopters and F16 TO KILL KIDS.
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idude
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Obama supports Israel murders, by idude on Dec 30, 2008 22:39:08 GMT 1, great add at the top of this page, NOT! "Learn Hebrew Online with Israel's best teachers"
Hmm... I get an ad for "militarylovelinks.com". Hilarious...
great add at the top of this page, NOT! "Learn Hebrew Online with Israel's best teachers" Hmm... I get an ad for "militarylovelinks.com". Hilarious... |
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kiy
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Obama supports Israel murders, by kiy on Dec 31, 2008 0:01:42 GMT 1, Change - Maybe but Obama is surrounded/backed by Zionist so I don't see much changing.
As for relevancy on this forum, Maybe Lou and Zippy should be so vocal and not participate when anything, non art related is discussed on the forum. If you don't want to participate then don't post..
Change - Maybe but Obama is surrounded/backed by Zionist so I don't see much changing.
As for relevancy on this forum, Maybe Lou and Zippy should be so vocal and not participate when anything, non art related is discussed on the forum. If you don't want to participate then don't post..
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brun
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Obama supports Israel murders, by brun on Dec 31, 2008 0:15:56 GMT 1, read some robert fisk such as "the great war for civilisation" , a man who has seen many wars as a journalist based in middle east, he met osama bin laden in 1979 when he was a mujhadeen fighting with USA backing ! while the USA / UK /france/germany/italy/russia etc. sell their arms to the middle east , its good business for them if the place is in constant turmoil !
the first conference obama went after his democratic nomination was the zionists ! i wont say he was supporting israel but he didnt exactly tell them to eff off did he ?
and those of you who dont think banksy has a political view about israel /palestine conflict , time you thought hard about what is on your walls .........
read some robert fisk such as "the great war for civilisation" , a man who has seen many wars as a journalist based in middle east, he met osama bin laden in 1979 when he was a mujhadeen fighting with USA backing ! while the USA / UK /france/germany/italy/russia etc. sell their arms to the middle east , its good business for them if the place is in constant turmoil !
the first conference obama went after his democratic nomination was the zionists ! i wont say he was supporting israel but he didnt exactly tell them to eff off did he ?
and those of you who dont think banksy has a political view about israel /palestine conflict , time you thought hard about what is on your walls .........
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origo
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Obama supports Israel murders, by origo on Dec 31, 2008 0:17:51 GMT 1, The day that an american president doesnยดt support Israel, will be the day hell freezes over.
The day that an american president doesnยดt support Israel, will be the day hell freezes over.
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Obama supports Israel murders, by brun on Dec 31, 2008 0:19:29 GMT 1, while the palestinians throw stones , the israelis retaliate with live ammo on kids ! when the palestinians fire a rocket and kill one , the israelis flatten a city and kill 350 ...........its not really fair since the land belongs to palestine in the first place and the zionists just took it for themselves !
while the palestinians throw stones , the israelis retaliate with live ammo on kids ! when the palestinians fire a rocket and kill one , the israelis flatten a city and kill 350 ...........its not really fair since the land belongs to palestine in the first place and the zionists just took it for themselves !
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Obama supports Israel murders, by greeneny on Dec 31, 2008 0:39:46 GMT 1, I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones.
Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands.
But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here?
Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize
I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones.
Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands.
But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here?
Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize
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Obama supports Israel murders, by gbh on Dec 31, 2008 0:45:44 GMT 1, I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones. Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here? Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize
finally, someone with a clue.
I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones. Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here? Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize finally, someone with a clue. |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by alsbabar on Dec 31, 2008 0:57:28 GMT 1, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands.
totally disagree, the international outrage, more importantly, the repercussions from the secular middle eastern countries would demand action - as it is Israel are pushing their luck violating UN resolution after resolution. The way i see it, they bomb buildings without a care as to who is inside it, if they have cause to believe a Hamas (which is a legitimate government) fighter is inside it. 4 die in Israel, total outrage, and have cause to kill/murder 350 Palestinians including women and children
Israel have used the same tactics since 1948 - the intifada of 87 showed the inbalance, the memorable images of kids with slings and stones against tanks and rockets.
That isnt sense, that is as indiscriminate as it gets!!!
if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. totally disagree, the international outrage, more importantly, the repercussions from the secular middle eastern countries would demand action - as it is Israel are pushing their luck violating UN resolution after resolution. The way i see it, they bomb buildings without a care as to who is inside it, if they have cause to believe a Hamas (which is a legitimate government) fighter is inside it. 4 die in Israel, total outrage, and have cause to kill/murder 350 Palestinians including women and children Israel have used the same tactics since 1948 - the intifada of 87 showed the inbalance, the memorable images of kids with slings and stones against tanks and rockets. That isnt sense, that is as indiscriminate as it gets!!! |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by kiy on Dec 31, 2008 1:05:57 GMT 1, I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones. Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here? Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize finally, someone with a clue.
If its OK to discuss the politics behind the art, why is there a issue discussing the politics that influence the art.....
Most of the prominent artists discussed on this forum have brought politics into there art...Banksy, Micallef, Parla, Shepard Fairey.....Blek
I completely support the Palestinians which is why I'm all for stopping Hamas from indiscriminately firing rockets and mortar shells at Israeli civilians which is a war crime - Grad and Katyusha rockets are hardly throwing stones. Also, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. But even more importantly - why is this subject even being discussed here? Its got no place in this forum and will only inflame and polarize finally, someone with a clue. If its OK to discuss the politics behind the art, why is there a issue discussing the politics that influence the art..... Most of the prominent artists discussed on this forum have brought politics into there art...Banksy, Micallef, Parla, Shepard Fairey.....Blek |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by onemandown72 on Dec 31, 2008 1:06:04 GMT 1, if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. totally disagree, the international outrage, more importantly, the repercussions from the secular middle eastern countries would demand action - as it is Israel are pushing their luck violating UN resolution after resolution. The way i see it, they bomb buildings without a care as to who is inside it, if they have cause to believe a Hamas (which is a legitimate government) fighter is inside it. 4 die in Israel, total outrage, and have cause to kill/murder 350 Palestinians including women and children Israel have used the same tactics since 1948 - the intifada of 87 showed the inbalance, the memorable images of kids with slings and stones against tanks and rockets. That isnt sense, that is as indiscriminate as it gets!!!
Who does it serve for the conflict to continue?
This is always a question that has bothered me, as I cannot understand where it is all going.
Northern Island ended in peace as it had no where else to go. Whilst I know relatively little about the middle east I see both sides controlling the fighting, with more to lose from peace
if the Israelis were really looking to just kill civilians as Hamas certainly are doing, I think the body count would be after four days probably in the tens of thousands. totally disagree, the international outrage, more importantly, the repercussions from the secular middle eastern countries would demand action - as it is Israel are pushing their luck violating UN resolution after resolution. The way i see it, they bomb buildings without a care as to who is inside it, if they have cause to believe a Hamas (which is a legitimate government) fighter is inside it. 4 die in Israel, total outrage, and have cause to kill/murder 350 Palestinians including women and children Israel have used the same tactics since 1948 - the intifada of 87 showed the inbalance, the memorable images of kids with slings and stones against tanks and rockets. That isnt sense, that is as indiscriminate as it gets!!! Who does it serve for the conflict to continue? This is always a question that has bothered me, as I cannot understand where it is all going. Northern Island ended in peace as it had no where else to go. Whilst I know relatively little about the middle east I see both sides controlling the fighting, with more to lose from peace |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by snausages on Dec 31, 2008 1:10:28 GMT 1, It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB
I'd prefer to get my news/opinions from CNN, BBC, NY Times, and any number of more respected sources before I'd resort to obey giant.
It will be interesting to see/read Shepard Fairey's on this statement by OB I'd prefer to get my news/opinions from CNN, BBC, NY Times, and any number of more respected sources before I'd resort to obey giant. |
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Obama supports Israel murders, by Deleted on Dec 31, 2008 1:12:23 GMT 1, Fighting for that patch of land has gone on for thousands of years, Before Christ was born or created. it will never stop as long as religion is alive. So all the chatter is pretty pointless. we cant agree on a forum, they will never agree with so much history.
Fighting for that patch of land has gone on for thousands of years, Before Christ was born or created. it will never stop as long as religion is alive. So all the chatter is pretty pointless. we cant agree on a forum, they will never agree with so much history.
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Obama supports Israel murders, by Gentle Mental on Dec 31, 2008 1:17:02 GMT 1, I read somewhere that you really shouldn't kill people.
I read somewhere that you really shouldn't kill people.
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