denzil
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by denzil on Jun 19, 2009 7:40:05 GMT 1, news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8108286.stm 'Faked' Banksy art trio charged
Three people have appeared in court charged with faking artwork by the graffiti artist Banksy.
Grant Howard, 43, from south Croydon, and Lee Parker, 44, from Eastbourne, east Sussex, are charged with conspiracy to defraud.
At City of London Magistrates' Court Vesna Grande-Howard, 32, also of south Croydon, is accused of money laundering.
All three face a charge of possessing articles for use in fraud.
They are accused of forging screen prints purporting to be by controversial 'guerilla artist' Banksy, whose art has sold for hundreds of thousands of pounds.
It is also alleged they manufactured and sold faked Vivienne Westwood clothing.
The accused are due before Southwark Crown Court on 18 August.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8108286.stm 'Faked' Banksy art trio charged Three people have appeared in court charged with faking artwork by the graffiti artist Banksy. Grant Howard, 43, from south Croydon, and Lee Parker, 44, from Eastbourne, east Sussex, are charged with conspiracy to defraud. At City of London Magistrates' Court Vesna Grande-Howard, 32, also of south Croydon, is accused of money laundering. All three face a charge of possessing articles for use in fraud. They are accused of forging screen prints purporting to be by controversial 'guerilla artist' Banksy, whose art has sold for hundreds of thousands of pounds. It is also alleged they manufactured and sold faked Vivienne Westwood clothing. The accused are due before Southwark Crown Court on 18 August.
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G-Man
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by G-Man on Jun 19, 2009 8:16:29 GMT 1, Good stuff
Thats the second lot charged in the last few months
The other lot were the guys based in Coventry that ripped me off
Good stuff
Thats the second lot charged in the last few months
The other lot were the guys based in Coventry that ripped me off
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by nah on Jun 19, 2009 11:07:20 GMT 1, great news
great news
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by wizzy on Jun 19, 2009 17:16:25 GMT 1, Good.
Good.
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Heavyconsumer
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by Heavyconsumer on Jun 19, 2009 17:49:56 GMT 1, Thanks for posting. Great news that people are getting busted at last.
Thanks for posting. Great news that people are getting busted at last.
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maadbeats
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by maadbeats on Jun 19, 2009 18:19:40 GMT 1, Let em burn
Let em burn
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llkoolj
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by llkoolj on Jun 19, 2009 18:21:50 GMT 1, who wants to egg them at court??
who wants to egg them at court??
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by Deleted on Jun 19, 2009 18:53:36 GMT 1, Don't understand this... I'm sure i read that when Banksy was younger he got sent inside for flogging fake Tiffany? Surely this is just hypocrisy... If this happened before banksy became a household name and part of the art establishment they would have probably been let off.
Don't understand this... I'm sure i read that when Banksy was younger he got sent inside for flogging fake Tiffany? Surely this is just hypocrisy... If this happened before banksy became a household name and part of the art establishment they would have probably been let off.
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junta
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by junta on Jun 19, 2009 19:01:02 GMT 1, true but if it happened before banksy was famous they wouldnt have been able to scam people out of so much money. these guys wernt exactly doing ยฃ5 t-shirts by the sound of it
true but if it happened before banksy was famous they wouldnt have been able to scam people out of so much money. these guys wernt exactly doing ยฃ5 t-shirts by the sound of it
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dodge
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dodge on Jun 19, 2009 20:15:07 GMT 1, Got scammed by these guys. Hope they get successfully prosecuted. Last time I use ebay for Banksy prints. Message board only purchases from now on!
Hope their cocks fall off too.
Got scammed by these guys. Hope they get successfully prosecuted. Last time I use ebay for Banksy prints. Message board only purchases from now on!
Hope their cocks fall off too.
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olivier
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by olivier on Jun 19, 2009 20:16:09 GMT 1, i wonder if these guys are the source of all that fake vivienne westwood / seditionaries stuff that damien hirst bought last year?
i wonder if these guys are the source of all that fake vivienne westwood / seditionaries stuff that damien hirst bought last year?
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dodge
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dodge on Jun 19, 2009 20:46:41 GMT 1, I wouldn't be surprised. They were extremely convincing.
I wouldn't be surprised. They were extremely convincing.
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retardthebear
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by retardthebear on Jun 19, 2009 20:49:54 GMT 1, not surprised they got caught. I live in South Croydon and most people dont seem to bright haha
not surprised they got caught. I live in South Croydon and most people dont seem to bright haha
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low3
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by low3 on Jun 20, 2009 0:06:38 GMT 1, There's a bit of a difference between flogging a bit of knock off out of a bag in the pub for ยฃ20 here and there (most people are smart enough to know that stuff's fake) and major counterfeiting of art where you're relieving people of thousands of pounds at a time.
It says something that a few people on here have been had by these wankers. Stick them in a cell with the biggest, most sex starved inmates you can find!
There's a bit of a difference between flogging a bit of knock off out of a bag in the pub for ยฃ20 here and there (most people are smart enough to know that stuff's fake) and major counterfeiting of art where you're relieving people of thousands of pounds at a time.
It says something that a few people on here have been had by these wankers. Stick them in a cell with the biggest, most sex starved inmates you can find!
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dodge
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dodge on Jun 20, 2009 8:37:03 GMT 1, Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhh!
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhh!
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by thegreatarchitect on Jun 20, 2009 9:54:17 GMT 1,
That's a bit extreme, a punishment usually reserved for hierarchy
Hung Drawn and Quartered for fraudsters.
That's a bit extreme, a punishment usually reserved for hierarchy Hung Drawn and Quartered for fraudsters. |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by thegreatarchitect on Jun 20, 2009 9:56:04 GMT 1, There's a bit of a difference between flogging a bit of knock off out of a bag in the pub for ยฃ20 here and there (most people are smart enough to know that stuff's fake) and major counterfeiting of art where you're relieving people of thousands of pounds at a time. It says something that a few people on here have been had by these wankers. Stick them in a cell with the biggest, most sex starved inmates you can find!
How do you know they wouldn't like that ?
There's a bit of a difference between flogging a bit of knock off out of a bag in the pub for ยฃ20 here and there (most people are smart enough to know that stuff's fake) and major counterfeiting of art where you're relieving people of thousands of pounds at a time. It says something that a few people on here have been had by these wankers. Stick them in a cell with the biggest, most sex starved inmates you can find! How do you know they wouldn't like that ? |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by wizzy on Jun 20, 2009 9:59:24 GMT 1, With a rusty spoon. I hope they get what they deserve for the crimes, but at least nobody was physically injured by their doing so thats something these days, worse things happen etc..., glad its sorted though.
With a rusty spoon. I hope they get what they deserve for the crimes, but at least nobody was physically injured by their doing so thats something these days, worse things happen etc..., glad its sorted though.
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Jimmy J
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by Jimmy J on Jun 20, 2009 10:21:56 GMT 1, About time.
About time. |
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dodge
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dodge on Jun 20, 2009 11:19:32 GMT 1, About time.
Clint would have sorted them out! ;D
About time. Clint would have sorted them out! ;D |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by bojangles on Jun 20, 2009 14:36:31 GMT 1, i dealt with lee parker - nasty piece of work glad he's been done.
They were buying genuine banksy's to get the genuine provenance. they then faked the print and copied the provenance so it all seemed above board when selling.
i only queried when the unsigned gansta rat was the wrong edition size.
i mean of all the bloody things to get yourself caught!
wot an f'in numpty
i dealt with lee parker - nasty piece of work glad he's been done.
They were buying genuine banksy's to get the genuine provenance. they then faked the print and copied the provenance so it all seemed above board when selling.
i only queried when the unsigned gansta rat was the wrong edition size.
i mean of all the bloody things to get yourself caught!
wot an f'in numpty
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etched
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by etched on Jun 20, 2009 21:54:19 GMT 1, hang em high for target practice - i have loads of old veg in the composter
hang em high for target practice - i have loads of old veg in the composter
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Dead Elvis
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by Dead Elvis on Jun 20, 2009 23:51:29 GMT 1, Yeah, I was scammed by these guys as well....
Glad to see them brought to justice....
Yeah, I was scammed by these guys as well....
Glad to see them brought to justice....
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dodge
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dodge on Jun 21, 2009 8:22:38 GMT 1, It looks like a lot of people on here have been stung by them. Not surprising given the large scale of the scam.
It looks like a lot of people on here have been stung by them. Not surprising given the large scale of the scam.
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Sundowner
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by Sundowner on Jun 21, 2009 11:44:22 GMT 1, i dealt with lee parker - nasty piece of work glad he's been done. They were buying genuine banksy's to get the genuine provenance. they then faked the print and copied the provenance so it all seemed above board when selling. i only queried when the unsigned gansta rat was the wrong edition size. i mean of all the bloody things to get yourself caught! wot an f'in numpty
So were they faking Pest Control COAs? 
That is really worrying, as there could still be prints out there that aren't real but which people believe have provenance. 
Better reason than ever to go via reputable sellers on this forum, rather than ebay. 
i dealt with lee parker - nasty piece of work glad he's been done. They were buying genuine banksy's to get the genuine provenance. they then faked the print and copied the provenance so it all seemed above board when selling. i only queried when the unsigned gansta rat was the wrong edition size. i mean of all the bloody things to get yourself caught! wot an f'in numpty So were they faking Pest Control COAs? That is really worrying, as there could still be prints out there that aren't real but which people believe have provenance. Better reason than ever to go via reputable sellers on this forum, rather than ebay. |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by thegreatarchitect on Jun 21, 2009 12:45:11 GMT 1, Seems to me this thread is turning in to a witch hunt. What happened to presumed innocent until proved guilty. Where would the objectivity be if the jury was made up of forum members
That's one of the reasons local authorities will not inform the local community if they relocate sex offenders into their area
Seems to me this thread is turning in to a witch hunt. What happened to presumed innocent until proved guilty. Where would the objectivity be if the jury was made up of forum members
That's one of the reasons local authorities will not inform the local community if they relocate sex offenders into their area
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by wizzy on Jun 21, 2009 13:01:11 GMT 1, Ducking Stool required.
Ducking Stool required.
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dotdot
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by dotdot on Jun 21, 2009 13:02:54 GMT 1, Seems to me this thread is turning in to a witch hunt. What happened to presumed innocent until proved guilty. Where would the objectivity be if the jury was made up of forum members That's one of the reasons local authorities will not inform the local community if they relocate sex offenders into their area
It would appear as you've probably read, earlier in the thread, folks here were scammed by parties above.
Generally if you are scammed the scammer is by definition guilty of something... hence the appearance in court unless of course you'd wish an alternative.
Chances of court being made up of persons who'd been victims is as you know quite small - in that they'd fail to meet the pre reqs.
It's taken quite a while to come to court - not sure if it'll make the telly given there's a show of work on at the same time in brizzle...
Without wishing to pass sentence on the presumed innocent at this stage it looks like evidence gathering may have yielded potentially something larger than first envisaged in which case the case might actually be quite something out of the ordinary.. but then that(cough) is a bit of speculation for you...
Seems to me this thread is turning in to a witch hunt. What happened to presumed innocent until proved guilty. Where would the objectivity be if the jury was made up of forum members That's one of the reasons local authorities will not inform the local community if they relocate sex offenders into their area It would appear as you've probably read, earlier in the thread, folks here were scammed by parties above. Generally if you are scammed the scammer is by definition guilty of something... hence the appearance in court unless of course you'd wish an alternative. Chances of court being made up of persons who'd been victims is as you know quite small - in that they'd fail to meet the pre reqs. It's taken quite a while to come to court - not sure if it'll make the telly given there's a show of work on at the same time in brizzle... Without wishing to pass sentence on the presumed innocent at this stage it looks like evidence gathering may have yielded potentially something larger than first envisaged in which case the case might actually be quite something out of the ordinary.. but then that(cough) is a bit of speculation for you... |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by thegreatarchitect on Jun 21, 2009 13:08:51 GMT 1,
I get the impression Wiz You'd like to be the judge in this case
Ducking stools were for suspected witches and nagging wives
Wiz not Fraudsters
I get the impression Wiz You'd like to be the judge in this case Ducking stools were for suspected witches and nagging wives Wiz not Fraudsters |
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'Faked' Banksy art trio charged, by wizzy on Jun 21, 2009 13:11:21 GMT 1, What gives you the impression i would like to be the Judge?, i have no desire to judge them nor anyone else.
edit: The Ducking Stool punishment although being used for Suspected Witches was also used as a punishment for a wider range of crimes and was seen as a way of publicly humiliating the offender, rightly or wrongly.
What gives you the impression i would like to be the Judge?, i have no desire to judge them nor anyone else.
edit: The Ducking Stool punishment although being used for Suspected Witches was also used as a punishment for a wider range of crimes and was seen as a way of publicly humiliating the offender, rightly or wrongly.
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