hlarmy
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by hlarmy on Mar 26, 2011 1:43:23 GMT 1, I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad.
What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed?
Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated.
I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad. What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed? Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated. |
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craigf
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by craigf on Mar 26, 2011 8:38:29 GMT 1, I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad. What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed? Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated.
Is it a large print Huw? If it has been framed without adhesives it is hard not to have some even if the print is pretty flat. One way to minimise them is for the framer to pack the frame (there is a proper description for this, but in lay man terms my understanding is they can put an additional backing board in that can be attached to the mount to sort of sandwich the print in place "flattening" the print)
I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad. What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed? Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated. Is it a large print Huw? If it has been framed without adhesives it is hard not to have some even if the print is pretty flat. One way to minimise them is for the framer to pack the frame (there is a proper description for this, but in lay man terms my understanding is they can put an additional backing board in that can be attached to the mount to sort of sandwich the print in place "flattening" the print) |
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hlarmy
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by hlarmy on Mar 26, 2011 9:01:39 GMT 1, Cheers Craig, is the chance of rippling higher if the framer has very little border to play with? If that makes sense, I'll take some photos and post up shortly
Cheers Craig, is the chance of rippling higher if the framer has very little border to play with? If that makes sense, I'll take some photos and post up shortly |
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by wizzy on Mar 26, 2011 9:52:41 GMT 1, My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute.
My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute.
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rsj
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by rsj on Mar 26, 2011 10:01:30 GMT 1, I have exactly the same problem, with an original on paper of a similar size as yours. It was framed by MFM in the same fashion. It may be almost unavoidable but it bugs me every time I look at it... I wonder whether the framers would take back and re-do it for their customers.
I have exactly the same problem, with an original on paper of a similar size as yours. It was framed by MFM in the same fashion. It may be almost unavoidable but it bugs me every time I look at it... I wonder whether the framers would take back and re-do it for their customers.
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hlarmy
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by hlarmy on Mar 26, 2011 10:01:55 GMT 1, My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute.
I tried that last night with a towel and an iron; it's burnt to shit but at least the ripples have gone
My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute. I tried that last night with a towel and an iron; it's burnt to shit but at least the ripples have gone |
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curiousgeorge
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craigf
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by craigf on Mar 26, 2011 10:38:09 GMT 1, Hmmm, see what you mean Huw, that's quite significant 
Hmmm, see what you mean Huw, that's quite significant |
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rillo
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by rillo on Mar 26, 2011 10:53:18 GMT 1, Lenny villa would sort this out for you in a jiffy
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Lenny villa would sort this out for you in a jiffy ] |
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by manty on Mar 26, 2011 11:11:07 GMT 1, If its practical, take it back to whence it was first framed, and allow them to rectify it for you.
Remind them that using duck tape is not a 'fix'
Its expansion/contraction of the paper, caused by heat, its obvious to me you have hung this over your cooker or in your shower cubicle, you should know better than to do this
If its practical, take it back to whence it was first framed, and allow them to rectify it for you.
Remind them that using duck tape is not a 'fix'
Its expansion/contraction of the paper, caused by heat, its obvious to me you have hung this over your cooker or in your shower cubicle, you should know better than to do this
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by Mister Frame Man on Mar 26, 2011 13:33:17 GMT 1, I have exactly the same problem, with an original on paper of a similar size as yours. It was framed by MFM in the same fashion. It may be almost unavoidable but it bugs me every time I look at it... I wonder whether the framers would take back and re-do it for their customers.
Always happy to collect and take a look FOC, but would appreciate tying it in with another job to cover transport costs.
I have exactly the same problem, with an original on paper of a similar size as yours. It was framed by MFM in the same fashion. It may be almost unavoidable but it bugs me every time I look at it... I wonder whether the framers would take back and re-do it for their customers. Always happy to collect and take a look FOC, but would appreciate tying it in with another job to cover transport costs. |
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dotdot
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by dotdot on Mar 26, 2011 14:22:39 GMT 1, I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad. What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed? Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated.
H ordinarily you can "assume" the either the print is on paper or card - either way at some point in the future the material will change shape through moisture coming in from somewhere.
My local restorer advises strongly against simply framing a print - adding that almost nobody he knows does this due, not least, to the issues you have described.
Simply put, the work is "stuck" to backing card then mounted / framed.
The backing card must be conversation standard and executed using entirely water based materials.
Now, if your local framer - or mine (past tense) for that matter can't do this or doesn't quite know what I'm talking about... well .. all bets are off.
You spend an age finding good art ..... spend an age finding a good framer.
My local failed in several places.... and was sacked before I even hired him. (damaged a print just moving it around..)
(quel damage ? = waste of time, patience .. and your hard earned).
hth.
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I have recently had a print framed and the rippling at the top and the bottom, just by the mount, is pretty bad. What causes this - is this due to the quality of the paper or is it just a bad frame job? When the print is framed, it is stretched slightly to ensure there is no rippling and / or how is rippling avoided? Is it something that can be fixed? Any feedback would be both interesting and much appreciated. H ordinarily you can "assume" the either the print is on paper or card - either way at some point in the future the material will change shape through moisture coming in from somewhere. My local restorer advises strongly against simply framing a print - adding that almost nobody he knows does this due, not least, to the issues you have described. Simply put, the work is "stuck" to backing card then mounted / framed. The backing card must be conversation standard and executed using entirely water based materials. Now, if your local framer - or mine (past tense) for that matter can't do this or doesn't quite know what I'm talking about... well .. all bets are off. You spend an age finding good art ..... spend an age finding a good framer. My local failed in several places.... and was sacked before I even hired him. (damaged a print just moving it around..) (quel damage ? = waste of time, patience .. and your hard earned). hth. .. |
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mmmike
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by mmmike on Mar 26, 2011 14:52:09 GMT 1, My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute.
Great advice
My advice to you H would be to unripple it when you have a minute. Great advice |
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Advice from framers needed: rippling in the print, by Rsyok on Mar 27, 2011 22:35:45 GMT 1, H is this a 'normal' giglee on paper print or c-type photo paper ? Did you get it framed locally ? Chris had no probs with my St Giles which must be as wide. They look like quite small ripples as if moistures got to it rather than just not held 100% flat. Im sure if you took it back they would add extra back boards but have a look while they are doing it.
H is this a 'normal' giglee on paper print or c-type photo paper ? Did you get it framed locally ? Chris had no probs with my St Giles which must be as wide. They look like quite small ripples as if moistures got to it rather than just not held 100% flat. Im sure if you took it back they would add extra back boards but have a look while they are doing it.
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