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Is anything original anymore???, by schlomo on Feb 8, 2010 14:38:50 GMT 1, Been having this conversation at work today after finding a silversmiths makers mark from 1720 which is identical to the Chanel logo, interesting stuff, although rather obviously just a coincidence rather than Chanel using his mark, he was an unknown silversmith, name of Christopher Canner II for anyone who's interested.....
Anyways, the discussion is interesting but we tend to talk about silver and silver styles here, so thought i would throw it to the forum.
Does anything new today have any originality? Most things we can do today have been done before, is there anyone that is totally unique in this scene?? Obviously Banksy is considered the top artist in the scene at the mo, but he wasn't the first, and isn't the last, so is he unique?? Is anything original anymore???
discuss. (and yes, once more i'm bored at work).....
Been having this conversation at work today after finding a silversmiths makers mark from 1720 which is identical to the Chanel logo, interesting stuff, although rather obviously just a coincidence rather than Chanel using his mark, he was an unknown silversmith, name of Christopher Canner II for anyone who's interested.....
Anyways, the discussion is interesting but we tend to talk about silver and silver styles here, so thought i would throw it to the forum.
Does anything new today have any originality? Most things we can do today have been done before, is there anyone that is totally unique in this scene?? Obviously Banksy is considered the top artist in the scene at the mo, but he wasn't the first, and isn't the last, so is he unique?? Is anything original anymore???
discuss. (and yes, once more i'm bored at work).....
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Is anything original anymore???, by manty on Feb 8, 2010 17:06:04 GMT 1, Yep, Neate is original, 4D art man, its the future, you know it!!
Yep, Neate is original, 4D art man, its the future, you know it!!
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Is anything original anymore???, by snausages on Feb 8, 2010 19:33:10 GMT 1, Yeah but Neate owes a ton to Georges Braque and all those guys. It's fresh, but not original. Is it?
Yeah but Neate owes a ton to Georges Braque and all those guys. It's fresh, but not original. Is it?
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Is anything original anymore???, by snausages on Feb 8, 2010 19:38:05 GMT 1, I went to see this show and without knowing the curatorial thought behind it, I can't say that I left thinking about originality. Don't really think the show is that great myself except for 1 or 2 artists. But I saw this article about the show and it has a thought worth considering.
"Spontaneous Generation" at Zach Feuer Gallery, 530 West 24th Street, on view through March 13, opening Friday, Feb. 5, 6 - 8 p.m.
Curated by Meredith Darrow, this group show tackles a subject on many people's minds โโโโโ is it possible to come up with something that's actually artistically original? Arthur Danto crankily says no, but perhaps the abstract artists included here โ from Sarah Braman and Alistair Frost to Lynda Benglis and Ken Price (who also has a show opening at Matthew Marks Friday) โ can suggest a new approach to novelty that arises from a perspectival shift. That is, if something that's been done before arises organically from their practice, can't it then be said to be original in some way? It'll be interesting to see if the work actually prompts such thinking in this show, which was inspired by Borges but owes no little debt to Duchamp.
I went to see this show and without knowing the curatorial thought behind it, I can't say that I left thinking about originality. Don't really think the show is that great myself except for 1 or 2 artists. But I saw this article about the show and it has a thought worth considering.
"Spontaneous Generation" at Zach Feuer Gallery, 530 West 24th Street, on view through March 13, opening Friday, Feb. 5, 6 - 8 p.m.
Curated by Meredith Darrow, this group show tackles a subject on many people's minds โโโโโ is it possible to come up with something that's actually artistically original? Arthur Danto crankily says no, but perhaps the abstract artists included here โ from Sarah Braman and Alistair Frost to Lynda Benglis and Ken Price (who also has a show opening at Matthew Marks Friday) โ can suggest a new approach to novelty that arises from a perspectival shift. That is, if something that's been done before arises organically from their practice, can't it then be said to be original in some way? It'll be interesting to see if the work actually prompts such thinking in this show, which was inspired by Borges but owes no little debt to Duchamp.
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Is anything original anymore???, by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 19:50:43 GMT 1, Nothings original, all we have learnt is based on what we have seen or heard.
Nothings original, all we have learnt is based on what we have seen or heard.
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Is anything original anymore???, by thecsoldier on Feb 8, 2010 22:10:49 GMT 1, 
one of my favorites
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Is anything original anymore???, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 8, 2010 22:19:11 GMT 1, Nice thread sclomo - I think the originality comes with the cocept and the intellectual thought process that goes into it. I had a similar discussion with friends about art movements i.e. how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point.
Nice thread sclomo - I think the originality comes with the cocept and the intellectual thought process that goes into it. I had a similar discussion with friends about art movements i.e. how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point.
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Is anything original anymore???, by spirit on Feb 8, 2010 23:08:28 GMT 1,
inspired. thanks for posting.
inspired. thanks for posting. |
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Is anything original anymore???, by spirit on Feb 8, 2010 23:10:33 GMT 1, how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point.
already been done 
how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point. already been done |
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Is anything original anymore???, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 8, 2010 23:21:03 GMT 1, how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point. already been done
Hard to articulate but I don't mean what we know as conceptual art. Hopefully someone may be able to expand.
how do you create a new art movment. Tricky to answer but conceptually may be a starting point. already been done Hard to articulate but I don't mean what we know as conceptual art. Hopefully someone may be able to expand. |
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Is anything original anymore???, by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 23:33:07 GMT 1, is there anyone else in the world who has done a self portrait in Plasticine before Vincent Brown this year ?
Plasticine on Plastic
is there anyone else in the world who has done a self portrait in Plasticine before Vincent Brown this year ? Plasticine on Plastic |
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Is anything original anymore???, by spirit on Feb 8, 2010 23:57:30 GMT 1, already been done Hard to articulate but I don't mean what we know as conceptual art. Hopefully someone may be able to expand.
I figured that, I was just pulling your leg.
already been done Hard to articulate but I don't mean what we know as conceptual art. Hopefully someone may be able to expand. I figured that, I was just pulling your leg. |
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Is anything original anymore???, by curiousgeorge on Feb 8, 2010 23:59:44 GMT 1, Spooky! I came here to mention just that!!! (vincent brown)
Another level IMO
Spooky! I came here to mention just that!!! (vincent brown)
Another level IMO
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Is anything original anymore???, by afroken on Feb 9, 2010 0:02:09 GMT 1, There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in shit. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original.
There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in shit. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original.
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Is anything original anymore???, by spirit on Feb 9, 2010 0:07:58 GMT 1, There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in s**t. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original.
Mad people have been throwing their own s**t around forever.
Calling it art may well be original though...should we refer to this new school as the bowel movement?
There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in s**t. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original. Mad people have been throwing their own s**t around forever. Calling it art may well be original though...should we refer to this new school as the bowel movement? |
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Is anything original anymore???, by snausages on Feb 9, 2010 0:23:35 GMT 1, It's easy to say nothing is original anymore, but the fact is everything is original. But "originality" is more interesting when people aren't "trying" to be original, more when people do what's natural to them. But it's a murky debate because originality doesn't necessarily mean innovative like is often implied.
I think originality and new movements have to do with the collective unconscious of the time - that springs forth from social and environmental factors. Although art now may be linked to that which came before, the authenticity and originality is when it comes naturally from within (individual or societal), regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past.
It's easy to say nothing is original anymore, but the fact is everything is original. But "originality" is more interesting when people aren't "trying" to be original, more when people do what's natural to them. But it's a murky debate because originality doesn't necessarily mean innovative like is often implied.
I think originality and new movements have to do with the collective unconscious of the time - that springs forth from social and environmental factors. Although art now may be linked to that which came before, the authenticity and originality is when it comes naturally from within (individual or societal), regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past.
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Is anything original anymore???, by afroken on Feb 9, 2010 0:23:46 GMT 1, Seriously though, I think Kate MccGwire is an artist doing something totally unique and singularly original:
www.allvisualarts.org/artists/kate-mccgwire.aspx
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Is anything original anymore???, by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 0:26:09 GMT 1, There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in s**t. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original.
no it's not
There's a guy who shows up at all the openings at White Cube in Hoxton Square. He screams and shouts and then pulls down his pants, sticks his hand up his arse and pulls it out covered in s**t. It's some kind of protest art apparently. That's pretty original. no it's not |
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Is anything original anymore???, by Silentbill on Feb 9, 2010 0:47:57 GMT 1, It's easy to say nothing is original anymore, but the fact is everything is original. And I find "originality" is more interesting though when people aren't "trying" to be original. When people just do what's natural to them. But it's a murky debate because originality doesn't necessarily mean innovative like is often implied. I think originality and new movements have to do with the collective unconscious of the time - that springs forth from social and environmental factors. Although art now may be linked to that which came before, the authenticity and originality is when it comes from within (individual or societal), regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past.
Cracking post, couldnt agree more.
It's easy to say nothing is original anymore, but the fact is everything is original. And I find "originality" is more interesting though when people aren't "trying" to be original. When people just do what's natural to them. But it's a murky debate because originality doesn't necessarily mean innovative like is often implied. I think originality and new movements have to do with the collective unconscious of the time - that springs forth from social and environmental factors. Although art now may be linked to that which came before, the authenticity and originality is when it comes from within (individual or societal), regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past. Cracking post, couldnt agree more. |
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Is anything original anymore???, by linkd95 on Feb 9, 2010 0:52:37 GMT 1, Asha Zero is original, you should take a look at his work hes pretty darn good.
Asha Zero is original, you should take a look at his work hes pretty darn good.
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Is anything original anymore???, by spirit on Feb 9, 2010 0:57:00 GMT 1,
that is definitely different. very beautiful but also a little creepy and unnerving. Man twisting nature to his own ends...
that is definitely different. very beautiful but also a little creepy and unnerving. Man twisting nature to his own ends... |
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Is anything original anymore???, by angel41 on Feb 9, 2010 10:32:46 GMT 1, These are original. Pretty cool as well:
These are original. Pretty cool as well: |
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Is anything original anymore???, by manty on Feb 9, 2010 17:55:14 GMT 1, But is the sig genuine, looks a little suspect to me, and is that a list of editions in yellow?
But is the sig genuine, looks a little suspect to me, and is that a list of editions in yellow?
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