flypitcher
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by flypitcher on Dec 10, 2008 23:34:44 GMT 1, Just read this quote.
"The middle class work so hard to look for acceptance from the working class that they have allowed a middle class entrepreneur to hoodwink them into believing vandalism is art and they buy the stuff, everything banksy pretends to be against is represented by middle class up bringing making him one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet."
True or False?
Just read this quote.
"The middle class work so hard to look for acceptance from the working class that they have allowed a middle class entrepreneur to hoodwink them into believing vandalism is art and they buy the stuff, everything banksy pretends to be against is represented by middle class up bringing making him one of the biggest hypocrites on the planet."
True or False?
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Cocteau 101
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Cocteau 101 on Dec 10, 2008 23:36:05 GMT 1, That's what people would like us to believe.
That's what people would like us to believe.
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achtungbono
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by achtungbono on Dec 10, 2008 23:37:00 GMT 1, we are all middle class now
we are all middle class now
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by brun on Dec 10, 2008 23:46:33 GMT 1, dont think we are ............
dont think we are ............
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 10, 2008 23:50:09 GMT 1, WTF does being white have to do with anything though? I know plenty of middle (and upper) class black and Asian families.
WTF does being white have to do with anything though? I know plenty of middle (and upper) class black and Asian families.
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by onemandown72 on Dec 10, 2008 23:52:39 GMT 1, Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK?
Post office, Supermarket workers, British Rail, Bus drivers.
Whilst we have less heavy indsutry we stil have a traditional working class in the UK
Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Post office, Supermarket workers, British Rail, Bus drivers. Whilst we have less heavy indsutry we stil have a traditional working class in the UK |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Happy Shopper on Dec 10, 2008 23:53:05 GMT 1, I don't agree that it would make him a hypocrite. You can be anti establishment, but have to live within it. What do you want him to be? An anarchist living in a hut in the woods?
I don't agree that it would make him a hypocrite. You can be anti establishment, but have to live within it. What do you want him to be? An anarchist living in a hut in the woods?
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 10, 2008 23:53:16 GMT 1, Where is the quote from? Hope its not a taggers website getting all jealous again
Where is the quote from? Hope its not a taggers website getting all jealous again
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 10, 2008 23:54:06 GMT 1, Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK?
Education? f**king salary feels working class enough! ;D
Police Force?
Fire Brigade?
Transport system workers?
Nursing.
Council workers and property maintenance workers. (street sweepers, dustmen, sign erectors and road marking painters, janitors etc etc)
I think there are quite a few "working class" occupations still out there, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter!
Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Education? f**king salary feels working class enough! ;D Police Force? Fire Brigade? Transport system workers? Nursing. Council workers and property maintenance workers. (street sweepers, dustmen, sign erectors and road marking painters, janitors etc etc) I think there are quite a few "working class" occupations still out there, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 10, 2008 23:55:10 GMT 1, Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Post office, Supermarket workers, British Rail, Bus drivers. Whilst we have less heavy indsutry we stil have a traditional working class in the UK
I deleted the post as I am trying to be less argumentative, but you just named all services in those jobs.
Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Post office, Supermarket workers, British Rail, Bus drivers. Whilst we have less heavy indsutry we stil have a traditional working class in the UK I deleted the post as I am trying to be less argumentative, but you just named all services in those jobs. |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 10, 2008 23:56:19 GMT 1, Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Education? f**king salary feels working class enough! ;D Police Force? Fire Brigade? Transport system workers? Nursing. Council workers and property maintenance workers. (street sweepers, dustmen, sign erectors and road marking painters, janitors etc etc) I think there are quite a few "working class" occupations still out there, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter!
Same, all services
Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? Education? f**king salary feels working class enough! ;D Police Force? Fire Brigade? Transport system workers? Nursing. Council workers and property maintenance workers. (street sweepers, dustmen, sign erectors and road marking painters, janitors etc etc) I think there are quite a few "working class" occupations still out there, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Same, all services |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by cashman on Dec 10, 2008 23:57:39 GMT 1, Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter!
Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ?
Its true brun, we no longer have any industry, we're a services led nation. Tell me a major industry of working class workers left in the UK? but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ? |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Gurn on Dec 10, 2008 23:58:29 GMT 1, Banksy's street art is for everyone who walks by it in the street,these pieces are sold,I know,but not by Banksy,and only to mugs,imo.It could be argued though,that his canvas/prints are mostly bought by the white middle classes....plenty of them were buying lottery tickets at the weekend.
Banksy's street art is for everyone who walks by it in the street,these pieces are sold,I know,but not by Banksy,and only to mugs,imo.It could be argued though,that his canvas/prints are mostly bought by the white middle classes....plenty of them were buying lottery tickets at the weekend.
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achtungbono
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by achtungbono on Dec 10, 2008 23:59:10 GMT 1, Class is a nice little way of compartmentalising people for academic, political & marketing ends
I try not to assign this scheme to people I know & meet
Class is a nice little way of compartmentalising people for academic, political & marketing ends
I try not to assign this scheme to people I know & meet
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 11, 2008 0:00:13 GMT 1, Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'.
I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this)
Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'.
I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this)
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flypitcher
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by flypitcher on Dec 11, 2008 0:02:27 GMT 1, The quote is from thisisbristol.co.uk, they are talking about redeveloping Stokes Croft and maybe getting rid off the Mild Mild West.
The quote is from thisisbristol.co.uk, they are talking about redeveloping Stokes Croft and maybe getting rid off the Mild Mild West.
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 11, 2008 0:02:42 GMT 1, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ?
My roots are not working class (very much middle class in fact), but my current income dictates that I feel working class and I'm absolutely not ashamed of it. I was suggesting that drawing lines between groups of people based on class, religion, race, income, or anything else, is a sure fire way to create a feeling of inequality. We are who we are and we do what we do and should not feel we're judged for where we come from or the income on which we survive. Life imo is simply about the choices we make.
but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ? My roots are not working class (very much middle class in fact), but my current income dictates that I feel working class and I'm absolutely not ashamed of it. I was suggesting that drawing lines between groups of people based on class, religion, race, income, or anything else, is a sure fire way to create a feeling of inequality. We are who we are and we do what we do and should not feel we're judged for where we come from or the income on which we survive. Life imo is simply about the choices we make. |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by I like pictures on Dec 11, 2008 0:03:00 GMT 1, would agree with slowmo on that working class does seem to be a little out dated "title".
would agree with slowmo on that working class does seem to be a little out dated "title".
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by cashman on Dec 11, 2008 0:03:02 GMT 1, The quote is from thisisbristol.co.uk, they are talking about redeveloping Stokes Croft and maybe getting rid off the Mild Mild West.
what quote ?
The quote is from thisisbristol.co.uk, they are talking about redeveloping Stokes Croft and maybe getting rid off the Mild Mild West. what quote ? |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Deleted on Dec 11, 2008 0:04:37 GMT 1, but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ?
I dye my roots ;D
but how many of us/them in them would like to be tarred with that brush is another matter! Im working class and proud mate, why be ashamed of your roots ? I dye my roots ;D |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by psylensa on Dec 11, 2008 0:04:40 GMT 1, So working class consists of those who do actual labor and the middle class is made up of rich people?
If thats the case let me say (as a member of the working class) we'll always think of you as a bunch of tw**s.
No offence.
So working class consists of those who do actual labor and the middle class is made up of rich people?
If thats the case let me say (as a member of the working class) we'll always think of you as a bunch of tw**s.
No offence.
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 11, 2008 0:05:05 GMT 1, Class is a nice little way of compartmentalising people for academic, political & marketing ends I try not to assign this scheme to people I know & meet
If there were karma, I'd spend a while beefing yours up!! 
Class is a nice little way of compartmentalising people for academic, political & marketing ends I try not to assign this scheme to people I know & meet If there were karma, I'd spend a while beefing yours up!! |
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 11, 2008 0:06:41 GMT 1, What a question and God thinks what answers will sadly follow, another stupid and ugly thread in a stupid and ugly forum. Peace...
Well you like it enough to visit and contribute, so either we're not that bad or you are too! ;D
What a question and God thinks what answers will sadly follow, another stupid and ugly thread in a stupid and ugly forum. Peace... Well you like it enough to visit and contribute, so either we're not that bad or you are too! ;D |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by brun on Dec 11, 2008 0:09:15 GMT 1, sorry was just out feeding the pigeons . where were we ?
got to get up a 5am to stoke the fire and then off to the coalface ..........
sorry was just out feeding the pigeons . where were we ?
got to get up a 5am to stoke the fire and then off to the coalface ..........
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by cashman on Dec 11, 2008 0:11:04 GMT 1, sorry was just out feeding the pigeons . where were we ? quote] ;D
sorry was just out feeding the pigeons . where were we ? quote] ;D |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by Heavyconsumer on Dec 11, 2008 0:12:01 GMT 1, Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'. I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this)
Agreed, so by your own "model," are service industry workers in many cases, today's equivalent of yesterday's working class?
Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'. I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this) Agreed, so by your own "model," are service industry workers in many cases, today's equivalent of yesterday's working class? |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 11, 2008 0:12:14 GMT 1, Thats the spirit. I'll be ironing my white collar and dreaming of that promotion to credit control so I can get that 3 bed semi dammit ;D
Thats the spirit. I'll be ironing my white collar and dreaming of that promotion to credit control so I can get that 3 bed semi dammit ;D
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by slowmo on Dec 11, 2008 0:13:39 GMT 1, Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'. I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this) Agreed, so by your own "model," are service industry workers in many cases, today's equivalent of yesterday's working class?
Nope, that system is dead, but now seems to work very well in India, where the industry and economic model is similar to ours about 30-50 years ago. I now no longer think the working class applies at all.
Like John Lennon said, 'a working class hero is something to be'. I just think working class is outmoded. Its now benefits class, service class, self employed class and other class to me. (all old models fit into all levels of this) Agreed, so by your own "model," are service industry workers in many cases, today's equivalent of yesterday's working class? Nope, that system is dead, but now seems to work very well in India, where the industry and economic model is similar to ours about 30-50 years ago. I now no longer think the working class applies at all. |
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Is Banksy for the white middle class?, by brun on Dec 11, 2008 0:15:36 GMT 1, :(this is a pretty lame thread ...........but the working class have no jobs anymore as i see it .....the street art has become populist through development of culture since 1970s gave us hip hop, adidas and grafitti !
of course mr banks has made it acceptable but in a decent way ..........we all had more money and more knowledge to consume !
back to the whippets now 
:(this is a pretty lame thread ...........but the working class have no jobs anymore as i see it .....the street art has become populist through development of culture since 1970s gave us hip hop, adidas and grafitti ! of course mr banks has made it acceptable but in a decent way ..........we all had more money and more knowledge to consume ! back to the whippets now |
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