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Greg Gossel, by Balboa on Sept 9, 2009 19:12:40 GMT 1, www.greggossel.com/
What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind.
Apologies if he's been discussed elsewhere and I've missed the thread.
www.greggossel.com/What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind. Apologies if he's been discussed elsewhere and I've missed the thread.
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annar50
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Greg Gossel, by annar50 on Sept 9, 2009 20:31:06 GMT 1, www.greggossel.com/What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind. Apologies if he's been discussed elsewhere and I've missed the thread.
yeah like gregs work a little faile but every 1 copies bits from artists, like wise in the music bizz
www.greggossel.com/What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind. Apologies if he's been discussed elsewhere and I've missed the thread. yeah like gregs work a little faile but every 1 copies bits from artists, like wise in the music bizz
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Greg Gossel, by James Smith 77 on Sept 9, 2009 21:21:43 GMT 1, His technique is good. BUT.....he jocks Faile so badly.
His technique is good. BUT.....he jocks Faile so badly.
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Greg Gossel, by meatbag on Sept 9, 2009 23:36:34 GMT 1, yeah like gregs work a little faile but every 1 copies bits from artists, like wise in the music bizz
yea i kind can understand that but greg would be a cover band in that analogy.
I'm sure Faile has bigger issues but damn I'd be pissed.
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yeah like gregs work a little faile but every 1 copies bits from artists, like wise in the music bizz yea i kind can understand that but greg would be a cover band in that analogy. I'm sure Faile has bigger issues but damn I'd be pissed. L: GG R: F L: F R: GG L: GG R: F L: F R: GG L: GG R: F
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Greg Gossel, by James Smith 77 on Sept 10, 2009 3:46:44 GMT 1, You've to admit that Greg does copy Faile's style amazingly well. They look so good I almost want to buy one.
You've to admit that Greg does copy Faile's style amazingly well. They look so good I almost want to buy one.
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Greg Gossel, by bazzj04 on Sept 10, 2009 9:34:37 GMT 1, Some good pieces, agree very similar to Faile though , what kind of prices to these go for then, any ideas?.
Some good pieces, agree very similar to Faile though , what kind of prices to these go for then, any ideas?.
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annar50
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Greg Gossel, by annar50 on Sept 10, 2009 16:30:49 GMT 1, Some good pieces, agree very similar to Faile though , what kind of prices to these go for then, any ideas?.
some originals pop up once in a while on ebay. hangup gallery has some i think
Some good pieces, agree very similar to Faile though , what kind of prices to these go for then, any ideas?. some originals pop up once in a while on ebay. hangup gallery has some i think
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Greg Gossel, by nah on Sept 10, 2009 16:34:26 GMT 1, Waaaaay too close for comfort
Waaaaay too close for comfort
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Greg Gossel, by bazzj04 on Sept 10, 2009 16:47:32 GMT 1, Thanks
Thanks
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Greg Gossel, by lee3 on Sept 10, 2009 18:49:01 GMT 1, >>>What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind.<<<
I like Gossell's work though I don't own any. In all honesty, Faile and Gossell both remind me more of Rotella, Villegle, and Hains than each other. From what I know, Faile and Gossell both create collages that share an inspiration from the de collages produced by the the New Realists. They have both drawn inspriation from artists before them and make it their own which is something any good artist does. To suggest that one is directly copying the other to me is similar to the argument elsewhere on this page regarding the soup spray cans. IOW, I think we're going off tangent if we argue that one of these artists found inspiration before the other when both of them (imo*) are more influenced by artists that were doing similar looking compositions well before them.
>>>What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind.<<<
I like Gossell's work though I don't own any. In all honesty, Faile and Gossell both remind me more of Rotella, Villegle, and Hains than each other. From what I know, Faile and Gossell both create collages that share an inspiration from the de collages produced by the the New Realists. They have both drawn inspriation from artists before them and make it their own which is something any good artist does. To suggest that one is directly copying the other to me is similar to the argument elsewhere on this page regarding the soup spray cans. IOW, I think we're going off tangent if we argue that one of these artists found inspiration before the other when both of them (imo*) are more influenced by artists that were doing similar looking compositions well before them.
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Greg Gossel, by Francis on Sept 10, 2009 19:10:23 GMT 1, why doesn't faile just jump greg gossel into their gang and he could assist in creating faile pieces in the collective
why doesn't faile just jump greg gossel into their gang and he could assist in creating faile pieces in the collective
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Greg Gossel, by linkd95 on Sept 10, 2009 20:22:29 GMT 1, I agree with Francis, i think that would be a better idea as the pieces he created are extremely simialar to Faile's almost copied, but still decent looking pieces and quite cheap.
I agree with Francis, i think that would be a better idea as the pieces he created are extremely simialar to Faile's almost copied, but still decent looking pieces and quite cheap.
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Greg Gossel, by thecsoldier on Sept 10, 2009 20:48:34 GMT 1, he's been called the poor mans fail in a couple articles (cant remember them off the top of my head), but i really do like his stuff
he's been called the poor mans fail in a couple articles (cant remember them off the top of my head), but i really do like his stuff
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Greg Gossel, by motor on Sept 10, 2009 22:26:27 GMT 1, I agree with Francis, i think that would be a better idea as the pieces he created are extremely simialar to Faile's almost copied, but still decent looking pieces and quite cheap.
What's next? Banksy working for Cartrain? Are people really so thick?
I agree with Francis, i think that would be a better idea as the pieces he created are extremely simialar to Faile's almost copied, but still decent looking pieces and quite cheap. What's next? Banksy working for Cartrain? Are people really so thick?
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Greg Gossel, by holden on Sept 10, 2009 23:19:17 GMT 1, >>>What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind.<<< I like Gossell's work though I don't own any. In all honesty, Faile and Gossell both remind me more of Rotella, Villegle, and Hains than each other. From what I know, Faile and Gossell both create collages that share an inspiration from the de collages produced by the the New Realists. They have both drawn inspriation from artists before them and make it their own which is something any good artist does. To suggest that one is directly copying the other to me is similar to the argument elsewhere on this page regarding the soup spray cans. IOW, I think we're going off tangent if we argue that one of these artists found inspiration before the other when both of them (imo*) are more influenced by artists that were doing similar looking compositions well before them.
I agree with your comments regarding the style and even composition....but the content is a tad too close for comfort. There are more on the Faile forum showing the use of the same images.....boxers, horses, crying ladies. It is way too often to be called co-incidental and way to close to be called original.
Courtesy of forsol half way down faileforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1467
>>>What do people think? Faile instantly springs to my mind.<<< I like Gossell's work though I don't own any. In all honesty, Faile and Gossell both remind me more of Rotella, Villegle, and Hains than each other. From what I know, Faile and Gossell both create collages that share an inspiration from the de collages produced by the the New Realists. They have both drawn inspriation from artists before them and make it their own which is something any good artist does. To suggest that one is directly copying the other to me is similar to the argument elsewhere on this page regarding the soup spray cans. IOW, I think we're going off tangent if we argue that one of these artists found inspiration before the other when both of them (imo*) are more influenced by artists that were doing similar looking compositions well before them. I agree with your comments regarding the style and even composition....but the content is a tad too close for comfort. There are more on the Faile forum showing the use of the same images.....boxers, horses, crying ladies. It is way too often to be called co-incidental and way to close to be called original. Courtesy of forsol half way down faileforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1467
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Greg Gossel, by lee3 on Sept 11, 2009 16:47:05 GMT 1, >>>It is way too often to be called co-incidental <<<
If you believe either of these artists are the first to use women (crying or otherwise), horses, guns, or other pop imagery then all the power to you. That's what I mean when I say we're off on a tangent. It's like someon taking credit for a new landscape painting to me.
>>>way to close to be called original.<<
Imho (and don't misconstrue this as a criticism as it's not), neither one of these artists (Faile and Gossell) has broken new ground with anything that I consider original. They are what they are to my eyes, very good artists producing work in a certain style.
>>>It is way too often to be called co-incidental <<<
If you believe either of these artists are the first to use women (crying or otherwise), horses, guns, or other pop imagery then all the power to you. That's what I mean when I say we're off on a tangent. It's like someon taking credit for a new landscape painting to me.
>>>way to close to be called original.<<
Imho (and don't misconstrue this as a criticism as it's not), neither one of these artists (Faile and Gossell) has broken new ground with anything that I consider original. They are what they are to my eyes, very good artists producing work in a certain style.
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Greg Gossel, by Daniel Silk on Sept 11, 2009 16:58:40 GMT 1, Waaaaay too close for comfort
Yeah, its good work but would be better if he developed his own style a bit more
Waaaaay too close for comfort Yeah, its good work but would be better if he developed his own style a bit more
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Greg Gossel, by holden on Sept 13, 2009 2:13:10 GMT 1, I fully understand what you mean lee3 about originality and where the inspiration has come from with Faile and Greg's work...........and agree.
I'd love to see the pics lined up from Rotella, Hains and Villegle, side by side as above to show the same use of composition, image (boxer v boxer, crying girl v crying girl etc etc) and especially theme.
However, looking at the artwork from the two in this thread, I agree with nah.... 'way to close for comfort' and Silky's of 'he'd be better of developing his own style a tad more'.
Clearly talented but needs to lose the 'cover band' for Faile tag I personally give him
I fully understand what you mean lee3 about originality and where the inspiration has come from with Faile and Greg's work...........and agree.
I'd love to see the pics lined up from Rotella, Hains and Villegle, side by side as above to show the same use of composition, image (boxer v boxer, crying girl v crying girl etc etc) and especially theme.
However, looking at the artwork from the two in this thread, I agree with nah.... 'way to close for comfort' and Silky's of 'he'd be better of developing his own style a tad more'.
Clearly talented but needs to lose the 'cover band' for Faile tag I personally give him
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Greg Gossel, by snausages on Sept 13, 2009 3:20:59 GMT 1, I always figured if you couldn't afford an original Faile a Gossel was ok but this is way way too close for comfort. Technically he's alright, but this is biting without adding a thing. Faile should have greg join!? As what an intern?
Faile may not be revolutionary on this style but they've really taken it a step forward or at the very least sideways away from Rotella et al. As in they create their own imagery as well as using found imagery, they consciously fabricate their own stories and meanings (instead of simulating a 'found' scene as in Rotella), they rip on comic books, create their own typography, they get sculptural with the works, use crates, the prayer wheel / totem poles. They've taken what was done and made it their own, Gossel is just taking.
I always figured if you couldn't afford an original Faile a Gossel was ok but this is way way too close for comfort. Technically he's alright, but this is biting without adding a thing. Faile should have greg join!? As what an intern?
Faile may not be revolutionary on this style but they've really taken it a step forward or at the very least sideways away from Rotella et al. As in they create their own imagery as well as using found imagery, they consciously fabricate their own stories and meanings (instead of simulating a 'found' scene as in Rotella), they rip on comic books, create their own typography, they get sculptural with the works, use crates, the prayer wheel / totem poles. They've taken what was done and made it their own, Gossel is just taking.
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Greg Gossel, by crazyarsemother on Sept 13, 2009 8:21:27 GMT 1, How long has he been practising? I love this college style. Sometimes its too easy to judge an artist at one particular moment in time. By understanding the techniques and aesthetics that Faile uses may be a very important part of Gossel's career. Remember if he has integrity he should be making work for himself - not you. This process maybe part of a 'construction phase', learning a practise that he can then start to deconstruct in his own way. He looks very exciting to me and I look forward to seeing where he goes.
Cheers Nick for sharing.
How long has he been practising? I love this college style. Sometimes its too easy to judge an artist at one particular moment in time. By understanding the techniques and aesthetics that Faile uses may be a very important part of Gossel's career. Remember if he has integrity he should be making work for himself - not you. This process maybe part of a 'construction phase', learning a practise that he can then start to deconstruct in his own way. He looks very exciting to me and I look forward to seeing where he goes.
Cheers Nick for sharing.
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Greg Gossel, by meatbag on Sept 13, 2009 17:27:19 GMT 1, There is no original thinking when you are painting by numbers.
There is no original thinking when you are painting by numbers.
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Greg Gossel, by wizzy on Sept 13, 2009 17:39:42 GMT 1, You can say that again Meatbag!.
You can say that again Meatbag!.
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Greg Gossel, by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 18:38:26 GMT 1, gossel...hahaha
gossel...hahaha
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