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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by manchestermike on Mar 25, 2009 15:22:19 GMT 1, I love the way the Daily Mail gets brought into everything. I reckon if we got rid of it we'd have world peace...
Oh and can UK posters pleeeeease stop using the term SUV (American posters you still can )
And I like the pants
I love the way the Daily Mail gets brought into everything. I reckon if we got rid of it we'd have world peace... Oh and can UK posters pleeeeease stop using the term SUV (American posters you still can ) And I like the pants
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by silvermyn on Mar 25, 2009 15:28:17 GMT 1, I wonder if they are mammals pants
I wonder if they are mammals pants
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by manty on Mar 25, 2009 15:28:33 GMT 1, Ha !
It would certainly be a better place without the Daily mail
So who is going to buy this lovely canvas then?
Ha !
It would certainly be a better place without the Daily mail
So who is going to buy this lovely canvas then?
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by lee3 on Mar 25, 2009 16:03:05 GMT 1, Who am I to judge anyone donating anything to the charity of their choice? My shallow question is where on the front of the painting is that signature? I can't seem to find it anywhere and presume it's in the bottom right but my eye can't discern for sure even when I expand the image.
Who am I to judge anyone donating anything to the charity of their choice? My shallow question is where on the front of the painting is that signature? I can't seem to find it anywhere and presume it's in the bottom right but my eye can't discern for sure even when I expand the image.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Heavyconsumer on Mar 25, 2009 16:05:09 GMT 1, Sorry! I refuse to be in anyway guilt tripped into charity because I live in a 2 bedroom semi with a garden! What I find absurd is how people keep expensive art in folders instead of display, but thats obviously just me! I think the UK are very generous when it comes to worldwide charity. Its never ending! Many worthwhile causes at home need addressed. The funding for things like motor neuron diesease is pathetic. But this isnt a competition! To be honest, Id like to know the reasons these are FAILED asylum seekers before donating to such a cause.
I guess this puts a stop once and for all as to the whole "which side is Banksy on" issue which has appeared in other over-heated political threads. I was always convinced he was on the side of peace and human welfare, regardless of religion, race or creed. His work tends to support this.
Personally, this would not have been my choice of charity either, but then I'm not the one donating a small fortune to it, so that's irrelevant imo.
I love to see artists giving of themselves for charity. While I realise Banksy isn't skint like most artists, there is still humility in giving away feely what could be gained from - ask yourself if your goose laid golden eggs, how many would you be giving away for free?
Charity and sharing is the foundation for bettering society, regardless of where or who its' beneficiary - those who do not believe this are condemning half the world's population to die from shortages of food, water and medical care over the next few generations. It's about time that those of us in the more comfortable corners of this world, started taking responsibility for the poverty, desease, misery and death created DIRECTLY by our wealth and desire for creature comforts. Ignorance is slowly but surely becoming less of an excuse as time passes. Surely any fans of Banksy's work should be able to see some of the hypocricy and double standards of our society, or are you just fans of owning something worth more than you paid for it? Sorry, incredibly naive and foolish question, which is clearly inappropriate for here!
Rock on Banksy and whichever charity he chooses.
Clearly, keeping prints in folders is a much more important issue though.
Sorry! I refuse to be in anyway guilt tripped into charity because I live in a 2 bedroom semi with a garden! What I find absurd is how people keep expensive art in folders instead of display, but thats obviously just me! I think the UK are very generous when it comes to worldwide charity. Its never ending! Many worthwhile causes at home need addressed. The funding for things like motor neuron diesease is pathetic. But this isnt a competition! To be honest, Id like to know the reasons these are FAILED asylum seekers before donating to such a cause. I guess this puts a stop once and for all as to the whole "which side is Banksy on" issue which has appeared in other over-heated political threads. I was always convinced he was on the side of peace and human welfare, regardless of religion, race or creed. His work tends to support this. Personally, this would not have been my choice of charity either, but then I'm not the one donating a small fortune to it, so that's irrelevant imo. I love to see artists giving of themselves for charity. While I realise Banksy isn't skint like most artists, there is still humility in giving away feely what could be gained from - ask yourself if your goose laid golden eggs, how many would you be giving away for free? Charity and sharing is the foundation for bettering society, regardless of where or who its' beneficiary - those who do not believe this are condemning half the world's population to die from shortages of food, water and medical care over the next few generations. It's about time that those of us in the more comfortable corners of this world, started taking responsibility for the poverty, desease, misery and death created DIRECTLY by our wealth and desire for creature comforts. Ignorance is slowly but surely becoming less of an excuse as time passes. Surely any fans of Banksy's work should be able to see some of the hypocricy and double standards of our society, or are you just fans of owning something worth more than you paid for it? Sorry, incredibly naive and foolish question, which is clearly inappropriate for here! Rock on Banksy and whichever charity he chooses. Clearly, keeping prints in folders is a much more important issue though.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by richy00 on Mar 25, 2009 16:08:54 GMT 1, Clearly, keeping prints in folders is a much more important issue though. ive run out of walls.
Clearly, keeping prints in folders is a much more important issue though. ive run out of walls.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by silvermyn on Mar 25, 2009 16:31:50 GMT 1, Nice post HC.
Nice post HC.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by skelly on Mar 25, 2009 16:49:42 GMT 1, Charity starts at home? We're humans we live on earth....some places need quite a bit more attention on our home
As far as the art goes, I don't like it as much as the Tesco flag but nonetheless a great piece. This will most likely be bought for a steal if it is only open for bidding on ebay
Charity starts at home? We're humans we live on earth....some places need quite a bit more attention on our home
As far as the art goes, I don't like it as much as the Tesco flag but nonetheless a great piece. This will most likely be bought for a steal if it is only open for bidding on ebay
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by robinbanks on Mar 25, 2009 17:07:24 GMT 1, Who am I to judge anyone donating anything to the charity of their choice? My shallow question is where on the front of the painting is that signature? I can't seem to find it anywhere and presume it's in the bottom right but my eye can't discern for sure even when I expand the image.
I assumed it had been signed on one of the edges of the board - like some of his other canvases are.
Who am I to judge anyone donating anything to the charity of their choice? My shallow question is where on the front of the painting is that signature? I can't seem to find it anywhere and presume it's in the bottom right but my eye can't discern for sure even when I expand the image. I assumed it had been signed on one of the edges of the board - like some of his other canvases are.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by digitalroach on Mar 25, 2009 17:08:10 GMT 1, I think banksy is bang on for doing this.asylum seekers is a dirty word in our press we are made to feel that they are taking or jobs n houses.Like jr ,banksy is highlighting issues that need attention.
I think banksy is bang on for doing this.asylum seekers is a dirty word in our press we are made to feel that they are taking or jobs n houses.Like jr ,banksy is highlighting issues that need attention.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 17:49:00 GMT 1, Surely any fans of Banksy's work should be able to see some of the hypocricy and double standards of our society, or are you just fans of owning something worth more than you paid for it? Sorry, incredibly naive and foolish question, which is clearly inappropriate for here! . very very good point HC
Surely any fans of Banksy's work should be able to see some of the hypocricy and double standards of our society, or are you just fans of owning something worth more than you paid for it? Sorry, incredibly naive and foolish question, which is clearly inappropriate for here! . very very good point HC
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by flypitcher on Mar 25, 2009 22:56:00 GMT 1, Banksy cannot win whatever he does. But even when he was young and had no money I was told a story that he gave away all the money he had at the time to a cause.
Banksy cannot win whatever he does. But even when he was young and had no money I was told a story that he gave away all the money he had at the time to a cause.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by hero on Mar 25, 2009 23:05:58 GMT 1, interestingly, the synagogue is really close to the last graffiti piece
I have been past it a lot, its not in the best nick, but its always busy, i think they even run a school out of it
H
interestingly, the synagogue is really close to the last graffiti piece I have been past it a lot, its not in the best nick, but its always busy, i think they even run a school out of it H
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by low3 on Mar 25, 2009 23:25:46 GMT 1, What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country.
Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here.
Or is that just me?.............
What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country.
Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here.
Or is that just me?.............
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by dynamixx on Mar 25, 2009 23:49:24 GMT 1, Whatever anyone's particular political or religious backgrounds, or views on the plight on of asylum seekers, at the end of the day proceeds from this are being donated to help people who need it, and who are more disadvantaged than us, really not sure where any controversy is coming from.
If this charity was the artist's or donator's particular choice, then why should anyone else to bring that into question? If you'd have chosen differently, fine, fight the choice by donating what you can to whichever charity you feel would be more worthy.
Love the image btw
Whatever anyone's particular political or religious backgrounds, or views on the plight on of asylum seekers, at the end of the day proceeds from this are being donated to help people who need it, and who are more disadvantaged than us, really not sure where any controversy is coming from.
If this charity was the artist's or donator's particular choice, then why should anyone else to bring that into question? If you'd have chosen differently, fine, fight the choice by donating what you can to whichever charity you feel would be more worthy.
Love the image btw
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by fuzzed on Mar 25, 2009 23:54:21 GMT 1, Nice image! Shame I don't have a spare ยฃ30k right now
Nice image! Shame I don't have a spare ยฃ30k right now
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by oe32 on Mar 26, 2009 0:34:51 GMT 1, back to his best
back to his best
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by goffy on Mar 26, 2009 0:48:06 GMT 1, I am against any charity that promotes religion and would rather give to the Tory party. Asylum seeker charities I do donate to.
I am against any charity that promotes religion and would rather give to the Tory party. Asylum seeker charities I do donate to.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 1:12:09 GMT 1, What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country. Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here. Or is that just me?.............
Three quarters of the worldโs refugees are living in developing countries, often in camps. Africa and Asia between them host two thirds of the worldโs refugees. Europe looks after just 18%. (Source: UNHCR, Refugees by numbers, 2006)
Conflict in Sudan has forced up to seven million people from their homes. Over 550,000 have fled the country to neighbouring countries. Only 675 Sudanese people applied for asylum in the UK in 2006. (Sources: US Department of State, Country reports on human rights practices 2006, March 2007 and Home Office, Asylum statistics: 4th quarter 2006, 2007)
The UK is home to less than 3% of the worldโs refugees โ around 290,000 out of 8.4 million worldwide. (Source: UNHCR, 2005 Global refugee trends, 9 June 2006)
In 2006, the UK was 16th in the league table of industrialised countries for the number of asylum applications per head of population. (Source: UNHCR, Asylum levels and trends in industrialised countries 2006, 23 March 2007)
But then again facts are ignored, lies are spread, and whilst we were all blaming Johnny foreigner the bankers bled us a dry and Murdoch and his like continue to amass their fortune whilst paying virtual no tax...nice.
Divide and rule anyone?
P.S.
If Goods and Money can cross borders why cant people, we can take x amount of x out of x but then demand that people have to stay put... and in such an unequal world as this...
What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country. Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here. Or is that just me?............. Three quarters of the worldโs refugees are living in developing countries, often in camps. Africa and Asia between them host two thirds of the worldโs refugees. Europe looks after just 18%. (Source: UNHCR, Refugees by numbers, 2006) Conflict in Sudan has forced up to seven million people from their homes. Over 550,000 have fled the country to neighbouring countries. Only 675 Sudanese people applied for asylum in the UK in 2006. (Sources: US Department of State, Country reports on human rights practices 2006, March 2007 and Home Office, Asylum statistics: 4th quarter 2006, 2007) The UK is home to less than 3% of the worldโs refugees โ around 290,000 out of 8.4 million worldwide. (Source: UNHCR, 2005 Global refugee trends, 9 June 2006) In 2006, the UK was 16th in the league table of industrialised countries for the number of asylum applications per head of population. (Source: UNHCR, Asylum levels and trends in industrialised countries 2006, 23 March 2007) But then again facts are ignored, lies are spread, and whilst we were all blaming Johnny foreigner the bankers bled us a dry and Murdoch and his like continue to amass their fortune whilst paying virtual no tax...nice. Divide and rule anyone? P.S. If Goods and Money can cross borders why cant people, we can take x amount of x out of x but then demand that people have to stay put... and in such an unequal world as this...
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by gwenie on Mar 26, 2009 2:17:27 GMT 1, Charity starts at home? We're humans we live on earth....some places need quite a bit more attention on our home
indubitably.
Charity starts at home? We're humans we live on earth....some places need quite a bit more attention on our home indubitably.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by snausages on Mar 26, 2009 3:57:13 GMT 1, Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea.
Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Heavyconsumer on Mar 26, 2009 5:50:10 GMT 1, Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea.
That was my first reaction Snausages. But it got me thinking and bearing in mind that the focus of this campaign is underpants, I think it works quite well. If the charity's remit was "include uinderpants please," for the piece to fit in with the campaign, he has come up trumps imo (I mean who takes pants seriously, but with the flag it works well imo?).
I suspect that left to his own devices on a subject potentially as poignant as failed asylum seekers, Mr B could have wowed us a bit more, tying into your comment - at first glance I thought it vaguely ammusing, but a bit lazy as a rework tbh.
In today's world would it be overpriced at ยฃ30k? A genuine question, as I'm not educated on art values, whereas I believe it's your business. My guess would be that a unique Banksy might be attractive to traditional art collectors, as well as people interested in this genre. In the UK, he's a household name across the board now, which is pretty unusual for a living artist (my grandparents would recognise his name from the papers and the TV!!!). How much would you be forced to pay for an editioned Banksy canvas these days? I think the S+S OG is up for 6 figures at Laz isn't it?! Also, remembering some of the crazy auction prices achieved for rare prints like the Kates (again multiples), to my untrained eye ยฃ30k doesn't seem crazy at all really, all be it a lot of cash.
Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea. That was my first reaction Snausages. But it got me thinking and bearing in mind that the focus of this campaign is underpants, I think it works quite well. If the charity's remit was "include uinderpants please," for the piece to fit in with the campaign, he has come up trumps imo (I mean who takes pants seriously, but with the flag it works well imo?). I suspect that left to his own devices on a subject potentially as poignant as failed asylum seekers, Mr B could have wowed us a bit more, tying into your comment - at first glance I thought it vaguely ammusing, but a bit lazy as a rework tbh. In today's world would it be overpriced at ยฃ30k? A genuine question, as I'm not educated on art values, whereas I believe it's your business. My guess would be that a unique Banksy might be attractive to traditional art collectors, as well as people interested in this genre. In the UK, he's a household name across the board now, which is pretty unusual for a living artist (my grandparents would recognise his name from the papers and the TV!!!). How much would you be forced to pay for an editioned Banksy canvas these days? I think the S+S OG is up for 6 figures at Laz isn't it?! Also, remembering some of the crazy auction prices achieved for rare prints like the Kates (again multiples), to my untrained eye ยฃ30k doesn't seem crazy at all really, all be it a lot of cash.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by rosstierney on Mar 26, 2009 5:51:23 GMT 1, What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country. Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here. Or is that just me?.............
you answered your own question, the uk is a free for all
did anyone watch panorama a fortnight ago? www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00j4bd7
there is thought to be 750,000+ illegal immigrants in the uk national insurance numbers are being issued, benefits are being claimed & jobs are becoming possible, basically down to lack of communication the uk knows it's lost complete control, their pants are round their ankles they're talking about accepting liability & granting them full citizenship before pulling their pants back up & fastening their belt
don't get me wrong, i don't want to see the genuine seekers kicked out & shipped back to where they came from, i'd just like the rest of europe to accept a fair share
you've got to be naive to think it can carry on the way it is, especially in this climate
What i don't get with asylum seekers is that if things are so bad in your own country and you're in fear of death or torture, why the hell would you go tot he effort of crossing lots of other countries and making it across the channel to a small island. Unless you know they're a soft touch. Surely you'd just stop at the nearest safe country. Even if you get denied asylum it still takes forever to boot them out of the country. We spend millions on it which could be much better spent on other more deserving people than those the government has already decided don't deserve to stay here. Or is that just me?............. you answered your own question, the uk is a free for all did anyone watch panorama a fortnight ago? www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00j4bd7there is thought to be 750,000+ illegal immigrants in the uk national insurance numbers are being issued, benefits are being claimed & jobs are becoming possible, basically down to lack of communication the uk knows it's lost complete control, their pants are round their ankles they're talking about accepting liability & granting them full citizenship before pulling their pants back up & fastening their belt don't get me wrong, i don't want to see the genuine seekers kicked out & shipped back to where they came from, i'd just like the rest of europe to accept a fair share you've got to be naive to think it can carry on the way it is, especially in this climate
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by flypitcher on Mar 26, 2009 8:47:22 GMT 1, Circles comments are very accurate. Also everybody on the board can be traced back to being an asylum seeker. I say let anybody come here if they want a better life.
Circles comments are very accurate. Also everybody on the board can be traced back to being an asylum seeker. I say let anybody come here if they want a better life.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 9:12:15 GMT 1, Ah the old fear of the big black man coming and stealing are women and Banksy prints debate again. its been a while.
we only believe what we are told by the press and we are fed lots of bullshit when it comes to Asylum seekers.
Ah the old fear of the big black man coming and stealing are women and Banksy prints debate again. its been a while.
we only believe what we are told by the press and we are fed lots of bullshit when it comes to Asylum seekers.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 11:58:59 GMT 1, you answered your own question, the uk is a free for all did anyone watch panorama a fortnight ago? www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00j4bd7there is thought to be 750,000+ illegal immigrants in the uk national insurance numbers are being issued, benefits are being claimed & jobs are becoming possible, basically down to lack of communication the uk knows it's lost complete control, their pants are round their ankles they're talking about accepting liability & granting them full citizenship before pulling their pants back up & fastening their belt don't get me wrong, i don't want to see the genuine seekers kicked out & shipped back to where they came from, i'd just like the rest of europe to accept a fair share you've got to be naive to think it can carry on the way it is, especially in this climate The UK asylum system is strictly controlled and complex. It is very difficult to get asylum. Asylum applications to the UK have fallen by almost three quarters over the last five years. (Source: UNHCR, Asylum levels and trends in industrialised countries 2006, 23 March 2007) Asylum seekers are not allowed to work unless they have waited over 12 months for an initial decision on their case. They are forced to rely on state support, which is set at just 70% of income support. Asylum seekers want to work and support themselves. Many do voluntary work while their asylum application is being processed. Asylum seekers do not come to the UK to claim benefits. In fact, most know very little about the UK asylum or benefits systems before they arrive. (Source: Home Office, Understanding the decision-making of asylum seekers, July 2002) Asylum seekers do not jump the queue for council housing and they cannot choose where they live. The accommodation allocated to them is not paid for by the local council. It is nearly always โhard to letโ properties, which other people do not want to live in. Asylum seekers do not get special perks such as mobile phones and help to buy cars. They are also denied access to many of the benefits others rely upon, such as disability living allowance. Most asylum seekers are living in poverty and experience poor health and hunger. (Source: Refugee Council and Oxfam, Poverty and asylum in the UK, July 2002) In 2005, around 102 million people entered the UK, including some 284,000 students. Asylum seekers represented just 0.025% of the total. (Source: Home Office, Control of immigration: statistics 2005, 22 August 2006) But then again facts are ignored, lies are spread, and whilst we were all blaming Johnny foreigner the bankers bled us a dry and Murdoch and his like continue to amass their fortune whilst paying virtual no tax...nice. Divide and rule anyone? P.S. If Goods and Money can cross borders why cant people, we can take x amount of x out of x but then demand that people have to stay put... and in such an unequal world as this... Just out of interest Rupert Murdoch pays around 6% in corporate taxes worldwide over 4 year periods, now Im not being funny but work that figure out on your own salary and see how much you would be paying in taxes if you were a sly fox. Chief whip of asylum seeker/immigrant hysteria... I wonder why? Real leech anyone?
you answered your own question, the uk is a free for all did anyone watch panorama a fortnight ago? www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00j4bd7there is thought to be 750,000+ illegal immigrants in the uk national insurance numbers are being issued, benefits are being claimed & jobs are becoming possible, basically down to lack of communication the uk knows it's lost complete control, their pants are round their ankles they're talking about accepting liability & granting them full citizenship before pulling their pants back up & fastening their belt don't get me wrong, i don't want to see the genuine seekers kicked out & shipped back to where they came from, i'd just like the rest of europe to accept a fair share you've got to be naive to think it can carry on the way it is, especially in this climate The UK asylum system is strictly controlled and complex. It is very difficult to get asylum. Asylum applications to the UK have fallen by almost three quarters over the last five years. (Source: UNHCR, Asylum levels and trends in industrialised countries 2006, 23 March 2007) Asylum seekers are not allowed to work unless they have waited over 12 months for an initial decision on their case. They are forced to rely on state support, which is set at just 70% of income support. Asylum seekers want to work and support themselves. Many do voluntary work while their asylum application is being processed. Asylum seekers do not come to the UK to claim benefits. In fact, most know very little about the UK asylum or benefits systems before they arrive. (Source: Home Office, Understanding the decision-making of asylum seekers, July 2002) Asylum seekers do not jump the queue for council housing and they cannot choose where they live. The accommodation allocated to them is not paid for by the local council. It is nearly always โhard to letโ properties, which other people do not want to live in. Asylum seekers do not get special perks such as mobile phones and help to buy cars. They are also denied access to many of the benefits others rely upon, such as disability living allowance. Most asylum seekers are living in poverty and experience poor health and hunger. (Source: Refugee Council and Oxfam, Poverty and asylum in the UK, July 2002) In 2005, around 102 million people entered the UK, including some 284,000 students. Asylum seekers represented just 0.025% of the total. (Source: Home Office, Control of immigration: statistics 2005, 22 August 2006) But then again facts are ignored, lies are spread, and whilst we were all blaming Johnny foreigner the bankers bled us a dry and Murdoch and his like continue to amass their fortune whilst paying virtual no tax...nice. Divide and rule anyone? P.S. If Goods and Money can cross borders why cant people, we can take x amount of x out of x but then demand that people have to stay put... and in such an unequal world as this... Just out of interest Rupert Murdoch pays around 6% in corporate taxes worldwide over 4 year periods, now Im not being funny but work that figure out on your own salary and see how much you would be paying in taxes if you were a sly fox. Chief whip of asylum seeker/immigrant hysteria... I wonder why? Real leech anyone?
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by snausages on Mar 26, 2009 15:24:59 GMT 1, Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea. Bad idea based why, because you say so? In case you have forgotten, this is about generating awareness and raising money for Asylum Seekers who are so destitute, the one thing they requested over everything else, was........wait for it snausages........underpants, so whats not to get about helping the poor and destitute? Banksy chipped in to help, in what he feels is a worthwhile cause, so who are you to say its a bad idea, especially if you have no interest in buying it or supporting it. Its a classic Banksy all the way, if the piece was named "Allegiance to the pants", would that have made it more compelling for you? How many times has Banksy used his "iconic" images for different messages, ala rats, monkeys, so why should the use of this image be devalued or considered less? I think its the perfect image for a perfect cause. As for the price - considering "Tesco Generation" canvas sold for ยฃ195K in Feb 2008, and this is considerably bigger and even more unique, now that there are the VLH prints - so imo ยฃ30K is a bargain for those that have it!! Dont despair though, i am sure you can find something more in your price range here shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/newnorthlondon?_qi=RTM543157, or you can donate without having to buy anything www.mycharitypage.com/NNLSDropin Sorry to get your knickers in a bunch cookie monster. It's a bad idea because it's a joke and yes I get the joke. Thanks for the explanation but it's obvious that it's for charity and we all know that you get a stiffy for charity's. If you think they're so great send em cash.
And no, it wouldn't help if it were named differently. You bring up the rats, but the rats are a perfect set up to run with and explore, especially the placards. But how great do you think it would be if Banksy kept redoing Flower Thrower, except changing what the guy threw every time? You see the difference?
And I don't really care what the VLH canvas sold for. It's comparing apples to oranges. Spending ยฃ30k on what is basically a spoof is a bad idea. This is always going to be a weird and minor work / image by Banksy.
Can't say I'm impressed by this image, although I think the execution of the kids is great. Funny for a sec but too much of a joke. And the price is way too high. If I had 30k there's no way I'm going to spend it on what is basically a spoof or joke of an iconic image. Bad idea. Bad idea based why, because you say so? In case you have forgotten, this is about generating awareness and raising money for Asylum Seekers who are so destitute, the one thing they requested over everything else, was........wait for it snausages........underpants, so whats not to get about helping the poor and destitute? Banksy chipped in to help, in what he feels is a worthwhile cause, so who are you to say its a bad idea, especially if you have no interest in buying it or supporting it. Its a classic Banksy all the way, if the piece was named "Allegiance to the pants", would that have made it more compelling for you? How many times has Banksy used his "iconic" images for different messages, ala rats, monkeys, so why should the use of this image be devalued or considered less? I think its the perfect image for a perfect cause. As for the price - considering "Tesco Generation" canvas sold for ยฃ195K in Feb 2008, and this is considerably bigger and even more unique, now that there are the VLH prints - so imo ยฃ30K is a bargain for those that have it!! Dont despair though, i am sure you can find something more in your price range here shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/newnorthlondon?_qi=RTM543157, or you can donate without having to buy anything www.mycharitypage.com/NNLSDropinSorry to get your knickers in a bunch cookie monster. It's a bad idea because it's a joke and yes I get the joke. Thanks for the explanation but it's obvious that it's for charity and we all know that you get a stiffy for charity's. If you think they're so great send em cash. And no, it wouldn't help if it were named differently. You bring up the rats, but the rats are a perfect set up to run with and explore, especially the placards. But how great do you think it would be if Banksy kept redoing Flower Thrower, except changing what the guy threw every time? You see the difference? And I don't really care what the VLH canvas sold for. It's comparing apples to oranges. Spending ยฃ30k on what is basically a spoof is a bad idea. This is always going to be a weird and minor work / image by Banksy.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by They call me Stephen on Mar 26, 2009 15:57:07 GMT 1, But they do have something to say, allegiance to the flag is representative of Tesco's stronghold over the UK today (is it 1 in every ยฃ7 is spent there?)
What does this image, not cause, say/represent? We have an allegiance to a pair of pants?
Great cause, forgettable image.
But they do have something to say, allegiance to the flag is representative of Tesco's stronghold over the UK today (is it 1 in every ยฃ7 is spent there?)
What does this image, not cause, say/represent? We have an allegiance to a pair of pants?
Great cause, forgettable image.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by snausages on Mar 26, 2009 16:15:35 GMT 1, Sure, Banksy has a keen sense of humour but this piece is obviously different. It's a reworking of an existing image (spoof) that looks like it was knocked up quick after some charity asked for his help.
Sure, Banksy has a keen sense of humour but this piece is obviously different. It's a reworking of an existing image (spoof) that looks like it was knocked up quick after some charity asked for his help.
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Banksy Charity "Pants" Painting, by digitalroach on Mar 26, 2009 16:32:18 GMT 1, Dont forget the kids are looking at the union jack flag. This still has a very strong message.At least it got people talking about it.
Dont forget the kids are looking at the union jack flag. This still has a very strong message.At least it got people talking about it.
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