Ged
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Where is morrissey1?, by Ged on Jul 15, 2008 9:12:08 GMT 1, Just PM'd Morrissey:
Read this thread:
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=21406&page=1
You really need to sort this out mate. I'm getting increasingly concerned that not just myself but also many other artists have contributed work to help you raise money for the Herbie Fund when you have no intention of carrying out the sale. This is an awful accusation for me to make but with the lack of contact, news and updates on your blog in regards to this I have no other option than to think the worst. Also, and it's not really my place to get involved but, you need to settle up with CrazyJake or at least contact him about the Olympic print.
This is turning quite nasty and you are doing yourself no favours by avoiding the matter. Get it sorted mate before your reputation is tarnished for good.
Ged
Just PM'd Morrissey: Read this thread:
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=21406&page=1
You really need to sort this out mate. I'm getting increasingly concerned that not just myself but also many other artists have contributed work to help you raise money for the Herbie Fund when you have no intention of carrying out the sale. This is an awful accusation for me to make but with the lack of contact, news and updates on your blog in regards to this I have no other option than to think the worst. Also, and it's not really my place to get involved but, you need to settle up with CrazyJake or at least contact him about the Olympic print.
This is turning quite nasty and you are doing yourself no favours by avoiding the matter. Get it sorted mate before your reputation is tarnished for good.
Ged
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Where is morrissey1?, by elvisreturns on Jul 15, 2008 9:12:58 GMT 1, It seems he had plenty of time to post in the thread about CarTrain's print this guy is clearly another crook out to rip people off.
It seems he had plenty of time to post in the thread about CarTrain's print this guy is clearly another crook out to rip people off.
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Where is morrissey1?, by elvisreturns on Jul 15, 2008 9:26:16 GMT 1, The cheeky fucker even accussed Silky of acting unscrupulously This from a thieving little worm
The cheeky fucker even accussed Silky of acting unscrupulously This from a thieving little worm
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jul 15, 2008 13:46:20 GMT 1, Let me first say many thanks to all the support from fellow forum members. I did finally receive two PMs yesterday from Morrissey. If you're bored and feel like reading, heres the first PM from him...
hey....been told by a couple of people that my name has been slightly dragged through the mud......havent heard from you in a while (and I havent messaged either).....but i told u the payment, money order I sent u is being investigated as it being shown as being endorsed....im not saying you did that...i definitely dont think you would... but im not going to pay twice for the same piece.....when i get refunded from that money order in investigaqtion i will definitely send that to you.....and you can talk with the people investigating this issue as well....like i said no finger pointing at you....but i cant pay twice
I then wrote back...
Robert You PM'd me May 23rd saying things were being fixed by your bank. You said you would paypal the following Tuesday, thats May 27th. Ive PM'd you with no reply. Ive emailed you with no reply! You wouldnt be paying twice, you be paying me for what you owe me, and waiting for a refund from your bank.
He then wrote back...
yes but i cant get a refund from my bank because the money order has been endorsed......
Heres my last reply, which I havent back from yet...
endorsed by what? That doesnt make sense
What pisses me off is his continual change of the story. Back on May 23rd he said his bank said the check was unpaid and that they stopped payment on it. He said he would pay the following Tuesday. I cant tell you how many emails and PMs have been sent unanswered. Its not about the money, it just pisses me off to help someone then have them screw you over. In a way, I should be fortunate to learn one of lifes lessons at such a low cost. Not only do I hope this gets resolved, I also hope the charity "art cards" proceed in a positive manner.
Thanks again to everyones support!
Crazy Jake
Let me first say many thanks to all the support from fellow forum members. I did finally receive two PMs yesterday from Morrissey. If you're bored and feel like reading, heres the first PM from him...
hey....been told by a couple of people that my name has been slightly dragged through the mud......havent heard from you in a while (and I havent messaged either).....but i told u the payment, money order I sent u is being investigated as it being shown as being endorsed....im not saying you did that...i definitely dont think you would... but im not going to pay twice for the same piece.....when i get refunded from that money order in investigaqtion i will definitely send that to you.....and you can talk with the people investigating this issue as well....like i said no finger pointing at you....but i cant pay twice
I then wrote back...
Robert You PM'd me May 23rd saying things were being fixed by your bank. You said you would paypal the following Tuesday, thats May 27th. Ive PM'd you with no reply. Ive emailed you with no reply! You wouldnt be paying twice, you be paying me for what you owe me, and waiting for a refund from your bank.
He then wrote back...
yes but i cant get a refund from my bank because the money order has been endorsed......
Heres my last reply, which I havent back from yet...
endorsed by what? That doesnt make sense
What pisses me off is his continual change of the story. Back on May 23rd he said his bank said the check was unpaid and that they stopped payment on it. He said he would pay the following Tuesday. I cant tell you how many emails and PMs have been sent unanswered. Its not about the money, it just pisses me off to help someone then have them screw you over. In a way, I should be fortunate to learn one of lifes lessons at such a low cost. Not only do I hope this gets resolved, I also hope the charity "art cards" proceed in a positive manner.
Thanks again to everyones support!
Crazy Jake
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killerkellah
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Where is morrissey1?, by killerkellah on Jul 15, 2008 14:02:37 GMT 1, stop being a c**t M1 and pay whats owed or return the item, simple.
the only person dragging your name through the mud is you.
stop being a c**t M1 and pay whats owed or return the item, simple.
the only person dragging your name through the mud is you.
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dmandpenfold
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Where is morrissey1?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 15, 2008 14:50:22 GMT 1, ooh a forum related charity/event disaster, how unusual
ooh a forum related charity/event disaster, how unusual
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Heavyconsumer
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Where is morrissey1?, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 15, 2008 15:19:48 GMT 1, CJ hasn't been paid and M1 is hung-up on some admin cockup at the bank and then saying he won't pay a second time. Why won't he pay twice for the same thing, if that's what it takes to make sure CJ gets his dough? This is how he repays the forum artists, after they sent him FREE artwork, when he was down in the dumps, just a few months back! Ignoring PMs and emails is totally unacceptable. It's treating someone who's done you a favour, like a pest.
Perhaps as someone who seems to be off-balance at times, he isn't the most suitable candidate for running a charity project?! If he can't be arsed (or summon the will/strength) to return the contributing artists' emails, there can't be much confidence in his successful administration of funds. He seems plain flakey now. I don't believe he's been proven to be a crook or a bad person, just unreliable. I wouldn't send him my cash. Payment for the art-cards should be a direct payment to the Herbie Fund, or else I think it should be handled by an alternative member if he wants to salvage his reputation and keep the project going. It was a very original and cool idea, so I hope it works out, cause it's also a great cause.
CJ hasn't been paid and M1 is hung-up on some admin cockup at the bank and then saying he won't pay a second time. Why won't he pay twice for the same thing, if that's what it takes to make sure CJ gets his dough? This is how he repays the forum artists, after they sent him FREE artwork, when he was down in the dumps, just a few months back! Ignoring PMs and emails is totally unacceptable. It's treating someone who's done you a favour, like a pest. Perhaps as someone who seems to be off-balance at times, he isn't the most suitable candidate for running a charity project?! If he can't be arsed (or summon the will/strength) to return the contributing artists' emails, there can't be much confidence in his successful administration of funds. He seems plain flakey now. I don't believe he's been proven to be a crook or a bad person, just unreliable. I wouldn't send him my cash. Payment for the art-cards should be a direct payment to the Herbie Fund, or else I think it should be handled by an alternative member if he wants to salvage his reputation and keep the project going. It was a very original and cool idea, so I hope it works out, cause it's also a great cause.
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shaunyboy
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Where is morrissey1?, by shaunyboy on Jul 15, 2008 20:31:15 GMT 1, Sorted yet?
Sorted yet?
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jul 15, 2008 21:06:08 GMT 1, I wish... he's gone stealth again.
I wish... he's gone stealth again.
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BK83
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Where is morrissey1?, by BK83 on Jul 15, 2008 21:11:48 GMT 1, I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git.
Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved.
I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git.
Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved.
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Where is morrissey1?, by snakes on Jul 15, 2008 21:42:31 GMT 1, Get the POLICE involved as he is obviously a fraudster..
Get the POLICE involved as he is obviously a fraudster..
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dmandpenfold
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Where is morrissey1?, by dmandpenfold on Jul 15, 2008 22:07:31 GMT 1, I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git. Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved. i missed all this, i think i was watching a wall dry that week, what was the story??
I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git. Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved. i missed all this, i think i was watching a wall dry that week, what was the story??
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Philippe
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Where is morrissey1?, by Philippe on Jul 15, 2008 22:18:00 GMT 1, I remember his first post on the forum and how he started a thread to introduce himself saying how friendly and informative everybody was and that he couldn't wait to start contributing. Man where did all that go or was it just a front? Either way he should learn to handle his sh*t better, isn't M1 over 50?
I remember his first post on the forum and how he started a thread to introduce himself saying how friendly and informative everybody was and that he couldn't wait to start contributing. Man where did all that go or was it just a front? Either way he should learn to handle his sh*t better, isn't M1 over 50?
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Heavyconsumer
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Where is morrissey1?, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 15, 2008 23:13:07 GMT 1, I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git. Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved. i missed all this, i think i was watching a wall dry that week, what was the story??
I think he's referring to the story in this thread..
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5214&page=1
I have to say. I never trusted this guy! -- when everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt last time. I just didn't believe his story for some reason. He seems a right git. Good luck, CJ. Although, I honestly doubt it will be resolved. i missed all this, i think i was watching a wall dry that week, what was the story?? I think he's referring to the story in this thread.. banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5214&page=1
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funster
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Where is morrissey1?, by funster on Jul 15, 2008 23:18:04 GMT 1, I'm getting an ill feeling of all of the generousity that seems to go to waste on this forum. Having exchanged numerous emails with M1 I can't say I'm slightly dissappointed in his actions. I've also realised tonight that I owe Agent Prov some £££ so maybe it's an honest mistake like mine? /
p.s - AP, I'll send you a pm!
I'm getting an ill feeling of all of the generousity that seems to go to waste on this forum. Having exchanged numerous emails with M1 I can't say I'm slightly dissappointed in his actions. I've also realised tonight that I owe Agent Prov some £££ so maybe it's an honest mistake like mine? / p.s - AP, I'll send you a pm!
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curiousgeorge
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Where is morrissey1?, by curiousgeorge on Jul 15, 2008 23:24:30 GMT 1, I'm getting an ill feeling of all of the generousity that seems to go to waste on this forum. Having exchanged numerous emails with M1 I can't say I'm slightly dissappointed in his actions. I've also realised tonight that I owe Agent Prov some £££ so maybe it's an honest mistake like mine? / p.s - AP, I'll send you a pm!
Oi, i think you better send me a pm too, i think you forgot the ££'s you owe me
Loving the mob mentality on this thread
Also for what it's worth, i think PRIVATE message should ALWAYS remain so. Hope things work out for you CJ always found you a pleasure to deal with
I'm getting an ill feeling of all of the generousity that seems to go to waste on this forum. Having exchanged numerous emails with M1 I can't say I'm slightly dissappointed in his actions. I've also realised tonight that I owe Agent Prov some £££ so maybe it's an honest mistake like mine? / p.s - AP, I'll send you a pm! Oi, i think you better send me a pm too, i think you forgot the ££'s you owe me Loving the mob mentality on this thread Also for what it's worth, i think PRIVATE message should ALWAYS remain so. Hope things work out for you CJ always found you a pleasure to deal with
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shaunyboy
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Where is morrissey1?, by shaunyboy on Jul 16, 2008 8:23:42 GMT 1, Lets hope it is sorted today.
Lets hope it is sorted today.
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shaunyboy
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Where is morrissey1?, by shaunyboy on Jul 17, 2008 9:17:22 GMT 1, Today would be nice.
Today would be nice.
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kronoopus
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Where is morrissey1?, by kronoopus on Jul 17, 2008 23:18:21 GMT 1, uh-huh
uh-huh
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Where is morrissey1?, by snakes on Jul 17, 2008 23:48:58 GMT 1, What a wanker
What a wanker
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Where is morrissey1?, by manchestermike on Jul 18, 2008 8:41:12 GMT 1,
I agree. I hope he didn't dupe too many with the art cards thing either!
I agree. I hope he didn't dupe too many with the art cards thing either!
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mcster
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Where is morrissey1?, by mcster on Jul 18, 2008 8:51:21 GMT 1, Looking at this thread and some others, I wonder if we should try and work out how to stop things like this happening between forum members. Without doubt most people on here are genuine, but with something so open you are bound to get scammers. I don't know M1 or Jake and don't feel I should comment on their problems, but I think the best way forward is to put our heads together and stop any repeats. Anyone got any ideas? I'm going to see if I can come up with something..
Looking at this thread and some others, I wonder if we should try and work out how to stop things like this happening between forum members. Without doubt most people on here are genuine, but with something so open you are bound to get scammers. I don't know M1 or Jake and don't feel I should comment on their problems, but I think the best way forward is to put our heads together and stop any repeats. Anyone got any ideas? I'm going to see if I can come up with something..
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Heavyconsumer
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Where is morrissey1?, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 18, 2008 9:02:02 GMT 1, I'm not convinced yet that M1 has set out to scam anyone or is malicious. I will be soon though if he doesn't respond, to clarify what's going on with his project for the Herbie Foundation and why he's been ignoring the artists. He's definitely not handling things in the best way!
I'm not convinced yet that M1 has set out to scam anyone or is malicious. I will be soon though if he doesn't respond, to clarify what's going on with his project for the Herbie Foundation and why he's been ignoring the artists. He's definitely not handling things in the best way!
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origo
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Where is morrissey1?, by origo on Jul 18, 2008 10:04:12 GMT 1, Karma will hit like a a hammer...
Karma will hit like a a hammer...
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Where is morrissey1?, by Agent Provocateur on Jul 18, 2008 10:34:28 GMT 1, I agree HC... I'm not convinced M1 is trying to scam anyone, but the longer the silence goes on more people will think the worse!
I agree HC... I'm not convinced M1 is trying to scam anyone, but the longer the silence goes on more people will think the worse!
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kronoopus
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Where is morrissey1?, by kronoopus on Jul 18, 2008 22:10:30 GMT 1, uh-huh
uh-huh
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Where is morrissey1?, by snakes on Jul 18, 2008 23:32:53 GMT 1, His last few posts make interesting reading as does his web site.
Man I thought i was bad with my felt tips and crayons!!
www.robertdennisdubeauart.blogspot.com/
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Tiki
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Where is morrissey1?, by Tiki on Jul 19, 2008 12:43:56 GMT 1, I definately think something needs to be set up to prevent charity fuck ups on here. For example if someone wants to do something for charity they have to do it through and alongside a few hand picked forum members to ensure its not just a heist so to speak.
I definately think something needs to be set up to prevent charity fuck ups on here. For example if someone wants to do something for charity they have to do it through and alongside a few hand picked forum members to ensure its not just a heist so to speak.
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Heavyconsumer
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Where is morrissey1?, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 19, 2008 15:30:26 GMT 1, I definately think something needs to be set up to prevent charity f**k ups on here. For example if someone wants to do something for charity they have to do it through and alongside a few hand picked forum members to ensure its not just a heist so to speak.
I think in theory that's a great idea, but with so few moderators on the site at the moment, it might be tough to implement.
I definately think something needs to be set up to prevent charity f**k ups on here. For example if someone wants to do something for charity they have to do it through and alongside a few hand picked forum members to ensure its not just a heist so to speak. I think in theory that's a great idea, but with so few moderators on the site at the moment, it might be tough to implement.
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