Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jun 16, 2008 14:29:14 GMT 1, Has anyone heard from him? It has been a long time that I have been trying to reach him. Some of you might have seen some of the post Ive had a while back looking for him. He replied that everything was being corrected and good. Well, they're not. Heres my story (if you care to read). I know some of you like "issues" to be kept private, but I also know many artists are trying to support the Cards of Art program he started.
- A while back Morrissey went through some tough times as you know. To help out, I sent him a print.
- He got the print and was very thankful, but really wanted my other print.
- I sent him the other print. (keep in mind, I sent both prints to him for free, including the postage I paid) Afterall, Im trying to help out.
- I sold my Olympic prints and he bought one of them. I sent it to him without payment. This was a mistake on my part. I was waiting for payment but accidentally mailed it out with a large batch of other stuff.
-He assured me payment was coming.
- This assurance went on and on. I sent PM's through the forum, and emails directly to him.
- a month or so ago, He posted about some of his artwork, so I commented on the thread. He replied back very casually stating he paid via money order. A week later he said the contacted the bank. He said he would pay me via paypal the following Tuesday. Needless to say, Tuesday came and no money.
If youve read this far, thanks for taking the time to read it. If youre one of the artist creating cards for "the Charity" please be cautious. Im not saying its not legit, but I do have my concerns due to lack of communications.
Jake
Has anyone heard from him? It has been a long time that I have been trying to reach him. Some of you might have seen some of the post Ive had a while back looking for him. He replied that everything was being corrected and good. Well, they're not. Heres my story (if you care to read). I know some of you like "issues" to be kept private, but I also know many artists are trying to support the Cards of Art program he started.
- A while back Morrissey went through some tough times as you know. To help out, I sent him a print.
- He got the print and was very thankful, but really wanted my other print.
- I sent him the other print. (keep in mind, I sent both prints to him for free, including the postage I paid) Afterall, Im trying to help out.
- I sold my Olympic prints and he bought one of them. I sent it to him without payment. This was a mistake on my part. I was waiting for payment but accidentally mailed it out with a large batch of other stuff.
-He assured me payment was coming.
- This assurance went on and on. I sent PM's through the forum, and emails directly to him.
- a month or so ago, He posted about some of his artwork, so I commented on the thread. He replied back very casually stating he paid via money order. A week later he said the contacted the bank. He said he would pay me via paypal the following Tuesday. Needless to say, Tuesday came and no money.
If youve read this far, thanks for taking the time to read it. If youre one of the artist creating cards for "the Charity" please be cautious. Im not saying its not legit, but I do have my concerns due to lack of communications.
Jake
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Where is morrissey1?, by pimp on Jun 16, 2008 14:53:23 GMT 1, the guy sounds like a fruit loop to me
sorry you lost your artwork through his 'issues' though, don't blame you for being fucked off!
the guy sounds like a fruit loop to me
sorry you lost your artwork through his 'issues' though, don't blame you for being fucked off!
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Heavyconsumer
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Where is morrissey1?, by Heavyconsumer on Jun 16, 2008 15:12:21 GMT 1, I remember you and Jef giving him some art as a gesture, to help get him back on the road after losing all his stuff. Mighty fine gestures on your parts. 
He seems a genuine and sincere guy and I reckon he'll be back on here when he can be. Perhaps further patience is the order of the day?  Sadly with the nature of certain things he's admitted, life can spiral out of control and take some dealing with. 
I think you're right to post a thread CJ, as it seemed to "awaken" him last time! Hopefully Robert's ok and and the charity project will materialise successfully. Glad to hear he has paypal usage back at least, as that should help the cards project be more viable to more members.
Good luck!
I remember you and Jef giving him some art as a gesture, to help get him back on the road after losing all his stuff. Mighty fine gestures on your parts. He seems a genuine and sincere guy and I reckon he'll be back on here when he can be. Perhaps further patience is the order of the day? Sadly with the nature of certain things he's admitted, life can spiral out of control and take some dealing with. I think you're right to post a thread CJ, as it seemed to "awaken" him last time! Hopefully Robert's ok and and the charity project will materialise successfully. Glad to hear he has paypal usage back at least, as that should help the cards project be more viable to more members. Good luck! |
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Where is morrissey1?, by craigf on Jun 16, 2008 15:14:53 GMT 1, Sad to read this CJ, he seemed a genuine guy going through a hard time. Hope everything sorts itself out for you and Morrisey1
Sad to read this CJ, he seemed a genuine guy going through a hard time. Hope everything sorts itself out for you and Morrisey1
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Where is morrissey1?, by Sacked... on Jun 16, 2008 15:19:33 GMT 1, I brought some things from Robert back in jan i had to keep prompting but he did eventually come through.As hc said Robert has had some problem patches and mayb he's going through one at the moment.
I brought some things from Robert back in jan i had to keep prompting but he did eventually come through.As hc said Robert has had some problem patches and mayb he's going through one at the moment.
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Where is morrissey1?, by alsbabar on Jun 16, 2008 15:23:21 GMT 1, sorry to read about your experience CJ
I can vouch for Crazyjake, he has done many a good turn for members on here
sorry to read about your experience CJ
I can vouch for Crazyjake, he has done many a good turn for members on here
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jun 16, 2008 15:26:19 GMT 1, Thanks for all the support and kind words. Lets hope all is ok with Robert and that things will work out for those involved.
Jake
Thanks for all the support and kind words. Lets hope all is ok with Robert and that things will work out for those involved.
Jake
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Where is morrissey1?, by bullet on Jun 16, 2008 15:37:21 GMT 1, He will get back to you eventually, took him 2 months to get back to me for a refund but he will...
He will get back to you eventually, took him 2 months to get back to me for a refund but he will...
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Where is morrissey1?, by dog byte on Jun 16, 2008 19:34:07 GMT 1, hope he is ok...
seems like he has gone through some rough times..
the charity cards are a great idea!
i have a lot of respect for morrissey for wanting to do this project for a great cause.
i'm afraid this can turn into another charity disaster if this starts and he isn't fully able to handle the large responsibility.
hope he is ok...
seems like he has gone through some rough times..
the charity cards are a great idea!
i have a lot of respect for morrissey for wanting to do this project for a great cause.
i'm afraid this can turn into another charity disaster if this starts and he isn't fully able to handle the large responsibility.
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jun 16, 2008 19:38:18 GMT 1, I agree the cards are a great idea. Its manageable for the artists to produce.
I agree the cards are a great idea. Its manageable for the artists to produce.
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Where is morrissey1?, by streetgirl on Jun 17, 2008 8:50:09 GMT 1, Hey Crazy,
Read the post and I'm sorry this has happened. Whatever the reasons, it's put you in an awkward position and I am sure the decision to post wasn't an easy one.
Just been trying to piece things together and wondered if you could give a timeline, from the date the print was set to when he contacted you and since you last heard from him.
It's a very tricky area unfortunately. I've read all about his recent/past trials and tribulations and whilst I absolutely empathise, there is a smidge of frustration I guess...I can't know what is going on with morrissey1, but it seems like a long time to leave a fellow member, an artist who has donated so generously, hanging.
And I've read back through his posts and see he has given some assurances that the money order is en route.
But I guess they don't go very far if there is still no evidence of the deniro's.
Personally, I would be falling over myself if any transaction was delayed or put into question. If nothing else, this forum and the good business that goes on behind the scenes relies on both reputation and trust. Both seem to be on shaky ground and I really hope that this resolves itself sooner rather than later.
Hey Crazy,
Read the post and I'm sorry this has happened. Whatever the reasons, it's put you in an awkward position and I am sure the decision to post wasn't an easy one.
Just been trying to piece things together and wondered if you could give a timeline, from the date the print was set to when he contacted you and since you last heard from him.
It's a very tricky area unfortunately. I've read all about his recent/past trials and tribulations and whilst I absolutely empathise, there is a smidge of frustration I guess...I can't know what is going on with morrissey1, but it seems like a long time to leave a fellow member, an artist who has donated so generously, hanging.
And I've read back through his posts and see he has given some assurances that the money order is en route.
But I guess they don't go very far if there is still no evidence of the deniro's.
Personally, I would be falling over myself if any transaction was delayed or put into question. If nothing else, this forum and the good business that goes on behind the scenes relies on both reputation and trust. Both seem to be on shaky ground and I really hope that this resolves itself sooner rather than later.
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pezlow
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Where is morrissey1?, by pezlow on Jun 17, 2008 9:08:02 GMT 1, Crazyjake is a top guy. I'm sure he didn't take this decision to post lightly. Come on Morrisey do the decent thing.
Crazyjake is a top guy. I'm sure he didn't take this decision to post lightly. Come on Morrisey do the decent thing.
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jun 17, 2008 13:16:39 GMT 1, Once again, thanks for all the support. It was a very difficult decision to post this thread. Not only do I believe in not saying anything unless its nice, I also try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
The last PM I got was dated May 23rd. He said since the money order wasnt cashed, his bank was refunding him the money, and that he would pay me via paypal the following Tuesday. I have tried PMing him as well as emailing, with no success.
I appreciate those trying to help. It looks like Ill be chalking this one up one of lifes little lessons. Its helped posting this and getting great support.
Thanks!
Jake
Once again, thanks for all the support. It was a very difficult decision to post this thread. Not only do I believe in not saying anything unless its nice, I also try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
The last PM I got was dated May 23rd. He said since the money order wasnt cashed, his bank was refunding him the money, and that he would pay me via paypal the following Tuesday. I have tried PMing him as well as emailing, with no success.
I appreciate those trying to help. It looks like Ill be chalking this one up one of lifes little lessons. Its helped posting this and getting great support.
Thanks!
Jake
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Michael Jacob
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Where is morrissey1?, by Michael Jacob on Jun 26, 2008 1:24:05 GMT 1, C'mon Robert! You logged on yesterday, how about a reply?
C'mon Robert! You logged on yesterday, how about a reply?
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Where is morrissey1?, by jamesreeve5 on Jun 26, 2008 1:30:29 GMT 1, wow... sorry to hear about the issues you are having jake
wow... sorry to hear about the issues you are having jake
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Blind Angle
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Where is morrissey1?, by Blind Angle on Jun 26, 2008 2:25:57 GMT 1, I'm very sorry to hear about this as well Jake! I know it must have taken a lot of consideration to post this from you.
If you are logging on Mr. M there is no excuse for not replying to Jake!
I'm very sorry to hear about this as well Jake! I know it must have taken a lot of consideration to post this from you.
If you are logging on Mr. M there is no excuse for not replying to Jake!
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Where is morrissey1?, by bored with screen names on Jun 26, 2008 5:32:14 GMT 1, I dont know how many times I've seen people on message boards take advantage of other members.
This was the guy that had some complicated story about why his Josh Keyes was on ebay for about 2X market value and he had no control over the price that was set right? That was a new one I gotta hand it to him.
Doesn't beat the one about the guy who owed people a ton of items and claimed his house burned down therefore he couldn't deliver though.
Hope he steps up and does the right thing here.
I dont know how many times I've seen people on message boards take advantage of other members.
This was the guy that had some complicated story about why his Josh Keyes was on ebay for about 2X market value and he had no control over the price that was set right? That was a new one I gotta hand it to him.
Doesn't beat the one about the guy who owed people a ton of items and claimed his house burned down therefore he couldn't deliver though.
Hope he steps up and does the right thing here.
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Where is morrissey1?, by manchestermike on Jun 26, 2008 9:29:29 GMT 1, I dont know how many times I've seen people on message boards take advantage of other members. This was the guy that had some complicated story about why his Josh Keyes was on ebay for about 2X market value and he had no control over the price that was set right? That was a new one I gotta hand it to him.
Doesn't beat the one about the guy who owed people a ton of items and claimed his house burned down therefore he couldn't deliver though.Hope he steps up and does the right thing here.
Don't be so quick to think that didn't happen, he may have been Fifty Cent's secret boyfriend
I dont know how many times I've seen people on message boards take advantage of other members. This was the guy that had some complicated story about why his Josh Keyes was on ebay for about 2X market value and he had no control over the price that was set right? That was a new one I gotta hand it to him.
Doesn't beat the one about the guy who owed people a ton of items and claimed his house burned down therefore he couldn't deliver though.Hope he steps up and does the right thing here. Don't be so quick to think that didn't happen, he may have been Fifty Cent's secret boyfriend |
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Where is morrissey1?, by streetgirl on Jun 26, 2008 10:35:46 GMT 1, Thought this thread had disappeared as it was all sorted!
Personally for me now, whatever excuse is given, frankly, it's not good enough. If you can log onto the forum, you can drop a guy a message.
Morrissey1:
Thought this thread had disappeared as it was all sorted! Personally for me now, whatever excuse is given, frankly, it's not good enough. If you can log onto the forum, you can drop a guy a message. Morrissey1: |
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Where is morrissey1?, by jam on Jul 14, 2008 18:15:20 GMT 1, This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake.
Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution. 
This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake. Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution. |
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Where is morrissey1?, by ruat caelum on Jul 14, 2008 18:51:10 GMT 1, This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake. Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution.
Agreed.
Whether his sob stories were true or not, morrissey1's subsequent actions or lack of action constitute pretty shameful behaviour in my book.
As a Smiths and Morrissey fan myself, I must say that I find the forced association with this forum member (through his username and avatar) to be truly embarrassing.
This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake. Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution. Agreed. Whether his sob stories were true or not, morrissey1's subsequent actions or lack of action constitute pretty shameful behaviour in my book. As a Smiths and Morrissey fan myself, I must say that I find the forced association with this forum member (through his username and avatar) to be truly embarrassing. |
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Where is morrissey1?, by Agent Provocateur on Jul 14, 2008 20:59:25 GMT 1, I feel for you CJ... I have emailed and PM'd Mr M a couple of times just to check whether he had received my Cards of Art and I still haven't had a response. Sorry to change the tack!
I feel for you CJ... I have emailed and PM'd Mr M a couple of times just to check whether he had received my Cards of Art and I still haven't had a response. Sorry to change the tack!
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Where is morrissey1?, by spenie1975 on Jul 14, 2008 21:01:13 GMT 1, Looks like the cards were just a way of getting free art from whats gone on.
Looks like the cards were just a way of getting free art from whats gone on.
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Where is morrissey1?, by dotdot on Jul 14, 2008 21:32:36 GMT 1, This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake. Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution. Agreed. Whether his sob stories were true or not, morrissey1's subsequent actions or lack of action constitute pretty shameful behaviour in my book. As a Smiths and Morrissey fan myself, I must say that I find the forced association with this forum member (through his username and avatar) to be truly embarrassing.
I agree on several points there ruat.
the veggie'd one would be disappointed at this thread....
wonder what johnny'd have to say - there would be expletives.
This thread deserved to be brought up until morrissey1 settles up with crazyjake. Seeing how Robert has time to log in and comment on other threads, the very least he could do is communicate with someone who went out of his way to help when morrissey1 was supposedly going through tough times. I think the avoidance of a debit is appalling and requires immediate restitution. Agreed. Whether his sob stories were true or not, morrissey1's subsequent actions or lack of action constitute pretty shameful behaviour in my book. As a Smiths and Morrissey fan myself, I must say that I find the forced association with this forum member (through his username and avatar) to be truly embarrassing. I agree on several points there ruat. the veggie'd one would be disappointed at this thread.... wonder what johnny'd have to say - there would be expletives. |
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Where is morrissey1?, by Harveyn on Jul 14, 2008 21:47:35 GMT 1, Ruat...I have to agree that both the lack of communication and feedback is completely out of order.
Ruat...I have to agree that both the lack of communication and feedback is completely out of order.
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dog byte
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Where is morrissey1?, by dog byte on Jul 14, 2008 22:02:25 GMT 1, is it really so strange? 
Yes this is getting weird. This is not normal or healthy behavior on his part.
is it really so strange? Yes this is getting weird. This is not normal or healthy behavior on his part. |
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Where is morrissey1?, by snakes on Jul 14, 2008 22:24:51 GMT 1, Well this thread was started approximately a month ago and no response from the man in question.
He is either a gutless wonder who will not speak up for himself or a thieving scum bag who is hiding behind the pretence of a charity in order to rip off those who are decent enough to contribute their works for free.
Somehow i feel it is the latter of the two as he has been on numerous times since this thread was created and that probably does not include times that he may well have been cruising the site when not logged in!
Well this thread was started approximately a month ago and no response from the man in question.
He is either a gutless wonder who will not speak up for himself or a thieving scum bag who is hiding behind the pretence of a charity in order to rip off those who are decent enough to contribute their works for free.
Somehow i feel it is the latter of the two as he has been on numerous times since this thread was created and that probably does not include times that he may well have been cruising the site when not logged in!
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Where is morrissey1?, by Gurn on Jul 14, 2008 22:32:34 GMT 1, Mos,I recall you being a helpful and elequent member of this forum..We all felt for you when it appeared you where having personal problems and rallied round to give you support.It may well be that you have serious issues in your life,but,unfortunately mate it is beginning to dawn on many of us that you may not be what you appeared..I hope that you are not a scammer,that would be crap...Do the right thing pal........PS....you still haven't sent the art you were gonna do for me(tell you what,keep it)
Mos,I recall you being a helpful and elequent member of this forum..We all felt for you when it appeared you where having personal problems and rallied round to give you support.It may well be that you have serious issues in your life,but,unfortunately mate it is beginning to dawn on many of us that you may not be what you appeared..I hope that you are not a scammer,that would be crap...Do the right thing pal........PS....you still haven't sent the art you were gonna do for me(tell you what,keep it) |
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Where is morrissey1?, by shaunyboy on Jul 15, 2008 8:38:39 GMT 1, Heaven knows I'm miserable now.
Heaven knows I'm miserable now.
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Where is morrissey1?, by Ged on Jul 15, 2008 9:00:29 GMT 1, I feel for you CJ... I have emailed and PM'd Mr M a couple of times just to check whether he had received my Cards of Art and I still haven't had a response. Sorry to change the tack!
I got an email saying he'd received the cards and print I donated (May 23rd) but have not heard back since, despite several efforts to contact him in regards to this matter.
Somewhere inside I'm hoping there is a genuine reason as to why he has not paid CJ for his Olympic print or at least replied to his emails, but the longer this goes on the more I become closer to coming round to the thought that we may not hear from him again.
Fingers crossed Morrissey will get the money to CJ asap and that time won't show that not only has he duped him out of two prints and payment for a third but he also used the Herbie Fund to build a nice collection of original works of which he has no intention of selling the cards to raise much needed funds for the charity.
I've PM's again, directing him to this thread, hopefully it might get him moving and sort this out.
I feel for you CJ... I have emailed and PM'd Mr M a couple of times just to check whether he had received my Cards of Art and I still haven't had a response. Sorry to change the tack! I got an email saying he'd received the cards and print I donated (May 23rd) but have not heard back since, despite several efforts to contact him in regards to this matter. Somewhere inside I'm hoping there is a genuine reason as to why he has not paid CJ for his Olympic print or at least replied to his emails, but the longer this goes on the more I become closer to coming round to the thought that we may not hear from him again. Fingers crossed Morrissey will get the money to CJ asap and that time won't show that not only has he duped him out of two prints and payment for a third but he also used the Herbie Fund to build a nice collection of original works of which he has no intention of selling the cards to raise much needed funds for the charity. I've PM's again, directing him to this thread, hopefully it might get him moving and sort this out. |
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Sadly with the nature of certain things he's admitted, life can spiral out of control and take some dealing with. 
