Gurn
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Gurn on Sept 17, 2008 0:15:03 GMT 1, I think what snakes, I mean Mojo is saying is that it's getting harder to flip, I mean make money on selling prints nowadays. The scene is alive and well thank you very much.
Hit the nail on the head...The cream is rising to the top,there is great art being produced,but in the current climate the flippability of prints is diminishing...sounds good to me...If you're an art lover,that is and not in it for the ยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃ's
I think what snakes, I mean Mojo is saying is that it's getting harder to flip, I mean make money on selling prints nowadays. The scene is alive and well thank you very much. Hit the nail on the head...The cream is rising to the top,there is great art being produced,but in the current climate the flippability of prints is diminishing...sounds good to me...If you're an art lover,that is and not in it for the ยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃ's
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lostplotter
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by lostplotter on Sept 17, 2008 0:17:52 GMT 1, The scene is booming, its just not flipper friendly.
The scene is booming, its just not flipper friendly.
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Guest on Sept 17, 2008 0:23:23 GMT 1, Totally agree with romanywg, this year has seen the flippers burnt. The emphasis of street art has gone back to the street and away from flipping weak and over hyped releases every week. cans, cans 2, Neate street pieces in Prague and Brazil, Faile at the tate, JR in Brazil. Banksy in New Orleans. and all the other artists that are out there putting their art up Grafter, Replete, Pure Evil, Eine, Sickboy, Conor Harington and Nick Walker to name only a few. And I believe there will be a lot more to come from this year.
Totally agree with romanywg, this year has seen the flippers burnt. The emphasis of street art has gone back to the street and away from flipping weak and over hyped releases every week. cans, cans 2, Neate street pieces in Prague and Brazil, Faile at the tate, JR in Brazil. Banksy in New Orleans. and all the other artists that are out there putting their art up Grafter, Replete, Pure Evil, Eine, Sickboy, Conor Harington and Nick Walker to name only a few. And I believe there will be a lot more to come from this year.
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Grubster
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Grubster on Sept 17, 2008 0:34:37 GMT 1, last 5 post are great and agree with many of the things romany and silky have said. every1 keep gettin up! peace
last 5 post are great and agree with many of the things romany and silky have said. every1 keep gettin up! peace
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oneeye
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by oneeye on Sept 17, 2008 5:22:08 GMT 1, This year is about to get kick started!! FRANCIS FAILE PARLA AND RUMORS OF A BANKSY SHOW???
If this scene is dead, I don't want to be alive.
This year is about to get kick started!! FRANCIS FAILE PARLA AND RUMORS OF A BANKSY SHOW???
If this scene is dead, I don't want to be alive.
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 17, 2008 5:42:58 GMT 1, I for one still love much of the art coming out of this scene, but it is harder to separate the good from bad and I can understand why people can't be arsed to do that.
Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever...
I for one still love much of the art coming out of this scene, but it is harder to separate the good from bad and I can understand why people can't be arsed to do that. Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever...
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holden
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by holden on Sept 17, 2008 6:33:44 GMT 1, Nice post Romanywg.
Bobby agree with you until that last statement. Faile have produced far, far worse stuff than Tender. Tender is not only a great image that is so very Faile (I can understand the lesser enthusiasm from the american perspective with perhaps over used indigenous imagery) it is thought provoking, well produced, bright and iconic/historical (courtesy of the Tate). It is highly likely that it may represent a watershed in the printing of the Faile 'torn' brand. They have produced once again another quality image and pioneered another printing format (with risk) rather than stick to safe and churn out a formula.
I can see you may not like the move away from limited edition hand finished exclusive prints to large editions of 300, but thats what happens when your one of the best!
Nice post Romanywg.
Bobby agree with you until that last statement. Faile have produced far, far worse stuff than Tender. Tender is not only a great image that is so very Faile (I can understand the lesser enthusiasm from the american perspective with perhaps over used indigenous imagery) it is thought provoking, well produced, bright and iconic/historical (courtesy of the Tate). It is highly likely that it may represent a watershed in the printing of the Faile 'torn' brand. They have produced once again another quality image and pioneered another printing format (with risk) rather than stick to safe and churn out a formula.
I can see you may not like the move away from limited edition hand finished exclusive prints to large editions of 300, but thats what happens when your one of the best!
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 17, 2008 7:13:27 GMT 1, Holden, my opinion of the Tender piece is on the creativity itself. Not the printing technique, not the fact that it was on the tate - after all they could have threw up an illustration of a turd and it still would have been "historical". Creativity is what matters, sometimes maybe not so much on this forum... Any case, Tender is an overproduced, painfully predictable, "lets include all the bells and whistles" turd. Just my opinion...
Holden, my opinion of the Tender piece is on the creativity itself. Not the printing technique, not the fact that it was on the tate - after all they could have threw up an illustration of a turd and it still would have been "historical". Creativity is what matters, sometimes maybe not so much on this forum... Any case, Tender is an overproduced, painfully predictable, "lets include all the bells and whistles" turd. Just my opinion...
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holden
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by holden on Sept 17, 2008 7:29:44 GMT 1, Holden, my opinion of the Tender piece is on the creativity itself. Not the printing technique, not the fact that it was on the tate - after all they could have threw up an illustration of a turd and it still would have been "historical". Creativity is what matters, sometimes maybe not so much on this forum... Any case, Tender is an overproduced, painfully predictable, "lets include all the bells and whistles" turd. Just my opinion... ;D
But couldnt you say the same thing about all their torn images? I'm leaving the turd bit out here and focussing on the over produced and uncreative aspect of your post. And if not why doesnt this appeal and others do??
Apologies I know its off topic kinda
Holden, my opinion of the Tender piece is on the creativity itself. Not the printing technique, not the fact that it was on the tate - after all they could have threw up an illustration of a turd and it still would have been "historical". Creativity is what matters, sometimes maybe not so much on this forum... Any case, Tender is an overproduced, painfully predictable, "lets include all the bells and whistles" turd. Just my opinion... ;D But couldnt you say the same thing about all their torn images? I'm leaving the turd bit out here and focussing on the over produced and uncreative aspect of your post. And if not why doesnt this appeal and others do?? Apologies I know its off topic kinda
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pezlow
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by pezlow on Sept 17, 2008 7:36:02 GMT 1, I for one still love much of the art coming out of this scene, but it is harder to separate the good from bad and I can understand why people can't be arsed to do that. Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever...
Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking.
I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming.
I for one still love much of the art coming out of this scene, but it is harder to separate the good from bad and I can understand why people can't be arsed to do that. Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever... Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming.
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holden
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by holden on Sept 17, 2008 7:56:27 GMT 1, Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever... Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming.
Again I agree Pezlow, but it does have its plus sides. For me its very much like taking pictures of the work on the street. When you do come across that diamond....ooohh how it glitters and shines! I am happy that people can nay be ar5ed. It maintains a core of avid aficionado's and is likely to result in a fall away of interest of the right people
Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever... Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming. Again I agree Pezlow, but it does have its plus sides. For me its very much like taking pictures of the work on the street. When you do come across that diamond....ooohh how it glitters and shines! I am happy that people can nay be ar5ed. It maintains a core of avid aficionado's and is likely to result in a fall away of interest of the right people
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by onemandown72 on Sept 17, 2008 8:45:47 GMT 1, Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming. Again I agree Pezlow, but it does have its plus sides. For me its very much like taking pictures of the work on the street. When you do come across that diamond....ooohh how it glitters and shines! I am happy that people can nay be ar5ed. It maintains a core of avid aficionado's and is likely to result in a fall away of interest of the right people
I couldn't agree more, and the reason most people were drawn into street art was due to the work that they saw on the street. I was reminded of just why and how much I love street art a couple of weeks ago, was walking through Dalston and saw this giant mural of a stick family, really simple and absolutely lovely. Made my day. I've no idea who did the piece or why. What I do know is that it this is why street art is alive and well. It's these moments that artists can engender through their work that are alive and well.
Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming. Again I agree Pezlow, but it does have its plus sides. For me its very much like taking pictures of the work on the street. When you do come across that diamond....ooohh how it glitters and shines! I am happy that people can nay be ar5ed. It maintains a core of avid aficionado's and is likely to result in a fall away of interest of the right people I couldn't agree more, and the reason most people were drawn into street art was due to the work that they saw on the street. I was reminded of just why and how much I love street art a couple of weeks ago, was walking through Dalston and saw this giant mural of a stick family, really simple and absolutely lovely. Made my day. I've no idea who did the piece or why. What I do know is that it this is why street art is alive and well. It's these moments that artists can engender through their work that are alive and well.
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Sept 17, 2008 9:02:57 GMT 1, This year is about to get kick started!! FRANCIS FAILE PARLA AND RUMORS OF A BANKSY SHOW??? If this scene is dead, I don't want to be alive.
2008 is all about Mr Brainwash.....
This year is about to get kick started!! FRANCIS FAILE PARLA AND RUMORS OF A BANKSY SHOW??? If this scene is dead, I don't want to be alive. 2008 is all about Mr Brainwash.....
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romanywg
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by romanywg on Sept 17, 2008 9:07:46 GMT 1, 2008 is all about Mr Brainwash..... Let's hope not.
2008 is all about Mr Brainwash..... Let's hope not.
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Sept 17, 2008 9:13:14 GMT 1, He will be as big as Banksy this time next year, mark my words....
He will be as big as Banksy this time next year, mark my words....
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by carlito on Sept 17, 2008 9:21:13 GMT 1, Paul Insect / Faile / Choe / Micallef all recently reminded me that there's quality out there...and fuck me B's work in New Orleans and Dolk / pobels recent work is out of this world....the recent times have been fucking ace! now if all the ppl moaning about economies and investments and politics could shut the fuck up...it would be even better
Paul Insect / Faile / Choe / Micallef all recently reminded me that there's quality out there...and fuck me B's work in New Orleans and Dolk / pobels recent work is out of this world....the recent times have been fucking ace! now if all the ppl moaning about economies and investments and politics could shut the fuck up...it would be even better
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by They call me Stephen on Sept 17, 2008 9:46:58 GMT 1, Paul Insect / Faile / Choe / Micallef all recently reminded me that there's quality out there...and f**k me B's work in New Orleans and Dolk / pobels recent work is out of this world....the recent times have been f**king ace! now if all the ppl moaning about economies and investments and politics could shut the f**k up...it would be even better
^^ Agree, all this talk of investments and stock markets are making this place very sour. Everyone who wants to 'get rich quick' should head over to this place www.talkgold.com/forum/ and leave this place to talk about street art
Paul Insect / Faile / Choe / Micallef all recently reminded me that there's quality out there...and f**k me B's work in New Orleans and Dolk / pobels recent work is out of this world....the recent times have been f**king ace! now if all the ppl moaning about economies and investments and politics could shut the f**k up...it would be even better ^^ Agree, all this talk of investments and stock markets are making this place very sour. Everyone who wants to 'get rich quick' should head over to this place www.talkgold.com/forum/ and leave this place to talk about street art
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Guest on Sept 17, 2008 10:14:53 GMT 1, so we all agree, street art is not dead, thank fuck for that.
so we all agree, street art is not dead, thank fuck for that.
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sfdoddsy
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by sfdoddsy on Sept 17, 2008 10:56:01 GMT 1, IMHO, if the importance of the art requires there being a 'scene', then it is doomed to flame out. 'Scenes' don't last, but great art surely does, and that's how it transcends the environment which foments it.
I'm also a relative newcomer to some of the artists beloved here, but I have long been a fan of art with similar sentiments going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement.
There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago.
Then there is the already noted derivative nature of much of the work. It's either yet another ironic stencil, or a cleverly drawn illustration.
We have to assume that Banksy owns long-term use of stencils, and of anti-consumerist messages. Everyone else doing it is to a greater or lesser extent riding his coattails.
It's no surprise to me that other artists seeing success are those who avoid being Banksy-lite and have their own style, ie Faile/Hush/Aiko, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla, Insect, Supine.
To me the 'scene' is about great artists being able to force their way into public consciousness by bypassing the stodginess of establishment galleries, and then reaping the rewards later on.
That's what I find interesting.
IMHO, if the importance of the art requires there being a 'scene', then it is doomed to flame out. 'Scenes' don't last, but great art surely does, and that's how it transcends the environment which foments it.
I'm also a relative newcomer to some of the artists beloved here, but I have long been a fan of art with similar sentiments going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement.
There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago.
Then there is the already noted derivative nature of much of the work. It's either yet another ironic stencil, or a cleverly drawn illustration.
We have to assume that Banksy owns long-term use of stencils, and of anti-consumerist messages. Everyone else doing it is to a greater or lesser extent riding his coattails.
It's no surprise to me that other artists seeing success are those who avoid being Banksy-lite and have their own style, ie Faile/Hush/Aiko, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla, Insect, Supine.
To me the 'scene' is about great artists being able to force their way into public consciousness by bypassing the stodginess of establishment galleries, and then reaping the rewards later on.
That's what I find interesting.
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by onemandown72 on Sept 17, 2008 11:35:20 GMT 1, IMHO, if the importance of the art requires there being a 'scene', then it is doomed to flame out. 'Scenes' don't last, but great art surely does, and that's how it transcends the environment which foments it. I'm also a relative newcomer to some of the artists beloved here, but I have long been a fan of art with similar sentiments going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement. There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago. Then there is the already noted derivative nature of much of the work. It's either yet another ironic stencil, or a cleverly drawn illustration. We have to assume that Banksy owns long-term use of stencils, and of anti-consumerist messages. Everyone else doing it is to a greater or lesser extent riding his coattails. It's no surprise to me that other artists seeing success are those who avoid being Banksy-lite and have their own style, ie Faile/Hush/Aiko, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla, Insect, Supine. To me the 'scene' is about great artists being able to force their way into public consciousness by bypassing the stodginess of establishment galleries, and then reaping the rewards later on. That's what I find interesting.
I feel all great artists develop their own particular style & this can then work for them in a variety of mediums. What has happened with street art is that newer artists have focused on the medium as opposed to the content (stencilling being the best example). Ultimately if you are a limited artist your work won't improve by appearing through a stencil. And this is the crux of the matter for me. Artists need to focus on their work and do something that is personal and unique to them. Being inspired by what is on the streets is a great starting point to create something new, but should be the starting point and not the end in itself
IMHO, if the importance of the art requires there being a 'scene', then it is doomed to flame out. 'Scenes' don't last, but great art surely does, and that's how it transcends the environment which foments it. I'm also a relative newcomer to some of the artists beloved here, but I have long been a fan of art with similar sentiments going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement. There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago. Then there is the already noted derivative nature of much of the work. It's either yet another ironic stencil, or a cleverly drawn illustration. We have to assume that Banksy owns long-term use of stencils, and of anti-consumerist messages. Everyone else doing it is to a greater or lesser extent riding his coattails. It's no surprise to me that other artists seeing success are those who avoid being Banksy-lite and have their own style, ie Faile/Hush/Aiko, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla, Insect, Supine. To me the 'scene' is about great artists being able to force their way into public consciousness by bypassing the stodginess of establishment galleries, and then reaping the rewards later on. That's what I find interesting. I feel all great artists develop their own particular style & this can then work for them in a variety of mediums. What has happened with street art is that newer artists have focused on the medium as opposed to the content (stencilling being the best example). Ultimately if you are a limited artist your work won't improve by appearing through a stencil. And this is the crux of the matter for me. Artists need to focus on their work and do something that is personal and unique to them. Being inspired by what is on the streets is a great starting point to create something new, but should be the starting point and not the end in itself
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dmandpenfold
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by dmandpenfold on Sept 17, 2008 13:25:42 GMT 1, Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever... Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming.
right on Pez overwhelming is right and plenty peddled on here, by the way that's the first time i've heard you swear on the forum
Personally, its easy to separate the good from the bad. Its just that theres an overwhelming amount of the latter. This scene and its $$$$ dynamics has caused even top notch artists to put out bad stuff recently. ie. Faile and their Tender piece, arguably their worst ever... Yeah piece by piece it is easy but when you have a huge pile of s**t and a few diamonds in the middle there is gonna be a reluctance by people to bother even attempting to start looking. I agree that generally the scene is very healthy indeed but the amount of crap out there is depressing and occasionally overwhelming. right on Pez overwhelming is right and plenty peddled on here, by the way that's the first time i've heard you swear on the forum
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Winter
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Winter on Sept 17, 2008 13:33:06 GMT 1, I'd decided to stop buying any prints for the time being then Insect released Star Eyes and I had no choice in the matter. Glad the last signed Soup Can failed to sell at ยฃ6k as this is the one print I still have ambitions of owning.
I'd decided to stop buying any prints for the time being then Insect released Star Eyes and I had no choice in the matter. Glad the last signed Soup Can failed to sell at ยฃ6k as this is the one print I still have ambitions of owning.
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oneeye
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by oneeye on Sept 17, 2008 14:33:49 GMT 1, There's a nice Soup Can at the Sotheby's print auction on Oct 2nd. Keep your eye on it.
There's a nice Soup Can at the Sotheby's print auction on Oct 2nd. Keep your eye on it.
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ninja
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by ninja on Sept 17, 2008 15:03:26 GMT 1, Bye snakes/mojo. Until the next guise.
Me, I'm with winter above ^^, looking forward to being able to own all of the stuff which I thought was out of reach financially.
Bye snakes/mojo. Until the next guise.
Me, I'm with winter above ^^, looking forward to being able to own all of the stuff which I thought was out of reach financially.
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fumanchu
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by fumanchu on Sept 17, 2008 22:10:56 GMT 1, STREET ART DEAD! the CANS FESTIVAL and the works in THAT tunnel was the most exciting thing to hit LONDON since ACID HOUSE mr B sprays a KKKlansman hangin from a noose in ALABAMA one of the most powerful images seen on a wall in the USA ever and bombs NEW ORLEANS sayin it WITH PICTURES street art is LIVE and kickin BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER!
STREET ART DEAD! the CANS FESTIVAL and the works in THAT tunnel was the most exciting thing to hit LONDON since ACID HOUSE mr B sprays a KKKlansman hangin from a noose in ALABAMA one of the most powerful images seen on a wall in the USA ever and bombs NEW ORLEANS sayin it WITH PICTURES street art is LIVE and kickin BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER!
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by slowmo on Sept 17, 2008 23:13:40 GMT 1, "going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." So wrong
"There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago." Is why
Street art is of the moment, not meant to last. A good thought now, an immediate hit. The days of classic art are dead. Moments are the new, capture a moment, IF Obama gets in, lets move on to the new villains. Can't believe you think street art is an extension of an elitist world where the lucky few got to say Baisez-vous. Now we all can, the internet is the founding father of this scene. Free's us all to say exactly what we feel to a global audience, right now.
"going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." So wrong
"There are two big problems I see (as far as lonegivity goes). Firstly, much of the work dates itself. Bush and Blair and capitalism have been a godsend to artists wishing to make a statement, but once Obama gets in what happens to all the anti-Bush stuff? It will seem as dated as the anti-Nixon/Vietnam from 30 years ago." Is why
Street art is of the moment, not meant to last. A good thought now, an immediate hit. The days of classic art are dead. Moments are the new, capture a moment, IF Obama gets in, lets move on to the new villains. Can't believe you think street art is an extension of an elitist world where the lucky few got to say Baisez-vous. Now we all can, the internet is the founding father of this scene. Free's us all to say exactly what we feel to a global audience, right now.
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romanywg
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October 2006
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by romanywg on Sept 18, 2008 17:53:15 GMT 1, "going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." Where did that come from?! that was called 'Dada'. This is called 'street art'. The main players are there already, it will be interesting to see if any other artists come through in 2009.
"going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." Where did that come from?! that was called 'Dada'. This is called 'street art'. The main players are there already, it will be interesting to see if any other artists come through in 2009.
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Prescription Art
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Prescription Art on Sept 18, 2008 17:56:46 GMT 1, [it will be interesting to see if any other artists come through in 2009.
Of course there will, people will always paint on walls. Some people predicted there would be no new artists around this year...
[it will be interesting to see if any other artists come through in 2009. Of course there will, people will always paint on walls. Some people predicted there would be no new artists around this year...
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IS URBAN / STREET ART AND THIS SCENE DEAD?, by Daniel Silk on Sept 18, 2008 18:02:16 GMT 1, "going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." So wrong
Agree totally, Didier Duchamps was quality when he was at Juventus ;D dont remember Duduffet? did he play on the left wing?
"going all the way back to Dubuffet and Duchamp, the twin founding fathers of this particular movement." So wrong Agree totally, Didier Duchamps was quality when he was at Juventus ;D dont remember Duduffet? did he play on the left wing?
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