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Russian Problems?, by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 19:11:55 GMT 1, i think Russia know that there is very little we can actually do about it. Our army's are already spread very thin, and both our economy's are near enough in recession, whilst the Russian's is booming. They can afford war.
We could get the UN to sanction them but that wont do f all. Russia are big players in the world. The UK and the US will publicly warn Russia but do nothing. In a word. Georgia are f**ked. Russia has it's claws out and it wont be stopped.
Just my honest opinion of course.
i think Russia know that there is very little we can actually do about it. Our army's are already spread very thin, and both our economy's are near enough in recession, whilst the Russian's is booming. They can afford war.
We could get the UN to sanction them but that wont do f all. Russia are big players in the world. The UK and the US will publicly warn Russia but do nothing. In a word. Georgia are f**ked. Russia has it's claws out and it wont be stopped.
Just my honest opinion of course.
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Russian Problems?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 28, 2008 19:18:24 GMT 1, I think any attack on the Ukraine might be the step too far for Russia, and the rest of the world would really need to act 
I think any attack on the Ukraine might be the step too far for Russia, and the rest of the world would really need to act |
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Russian Problems?, by brun on Aug 28, 2008 19:21:57 GMT 1, the russian gangsters are back ! but they need us in europe to keep their economy running cos we got the cash for the gas ,not the russian public ! russia is very reliant on outside money .....so a stand off will ensue !
the russian gangsters are back ! but they need us in europe to keep their economy running cos we got the cash for the gas ,not the russian public ! russia is very reliant on outside money .....so a stand off will ensue !
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Russian Problems?, by Deleted on Aug 28, 2008 19:22:34 GMT 1, I didnt read that, that would be too far. Would get Arsenal out of a tough Champions Leauge tie though! 
I didnt read that, that would be too far. Would get Arsenal out of a tough Champions Leauge tie though! |
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Russian Problems?, by deckstar on Aug 28, 2008 19:27:35 GMT 1, Cold war here we go again 
Cold war here we go again |
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Russian Problems?, by Daniel Silk on Aug 28, 2008 19:35:09 GMT 1, I didnt read that, that would be too far. Would get Arsenal out of a tough Champions Leauge tie though!
Yeah! ;D
We have so many more connection with counties such as the Ukraine now that we dint have say 10 years ago. Plus the number of people and businesses from the UK that have moved over there.
I didnt read that, that would be too far. Would get Arsenal out of a tough Champions Leauge tie though! Yeah! ;D We have so many more connection with counties such as the Ukraine now that we dint have say 10 years ago. Plus the number of people and businesses from the UK that have moved over there. |
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Russian Problems?, by daz205 on Aug 28, 2008 20:46:00 GMT 1, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !
ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU CAN!!!!!
WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !
ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU CAN!!!!!
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Russian Problems?, by manchestermike on Aug 28, 2008 20:51:06 GMT 1, how do you feel Obama will handle if it he was to be in power?
He won't win so we'd never know 
how do you feel Obama will handle if it he was to be in power? He won't win so we'd never know |
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Russian Problems?, by arcam on Aug 28, 2008 21:04:35 GMT 1, how do you feel Obama will handle if it he was to be in power? He won't win so we'd never know
We have to hope that he does.
how do you feel Obama will handle if it he was to be in power? He won't win so we'd never know We have to hope that he does. |
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Russian Problems?, by Michael Jacob on Aug 28, 2008 21:19:53 GMT 1, There is very little we (the US) can do without the support of the UN and other countries. As mentioned above, Russia has come into countless wealth with their oil. As the US sits, we are tapped out on all fronts, be it military or financial. Regardless of our next President, I think tougher times are yet to come. We need to reevaluate how we operate internally as a country, instead of always worrying about our external appearance. Its time to pay the piper...
There is very little we (the US) can do without the support of the UN and other countries. As mentioned above, Russia has come into countless wealth with their oil. As the US sits, we are tapped out on all fronts, be it military or financial. Regardless of our next President, I think tougher times are yet to come. We need to reevaluate how we operate internally as a country, instead of always worrying about our external appearance. Its time to pay the piper...
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Russian Problems?, by Michael Jacob on Aug 28, 2008 21:20:20 GMT 1, That was my 1,000 post! Hip Hip Horray!
That was my 1,000 post! Hip Hip Horray!
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Russian Problems?, by tinkicker on Aug 28, 2008 21:20:31 GMT 1, P.O.W should bring santas getto to the Ukraine this year before its too late!!!!!!!!!It really needs to highlighted!Kiev is the spot to do it!
P.O.W should bring santas getto to the Ukraine this year before its too late!!!!!!!!!It really needs to highlighted!Kiev is the spot to do it!
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Russian Problems?, by slowmo on Aug 28, 2008 21:33:15 GMT 1, Roar bear! When they have no oil left, its a massive backward, divided, political inept and fucked country that no one will give a shit about. This current power flexing is just the rigor mortis of a dying nation.
Roar bear! When they have no oil left, its a massive backward, divided, political inept and fucked country that no one will give a shit about. This current power flexing is just the rigor mortis of a dying nation.
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Russian Problems?, by Cocteau 101 on Aug 28, 2008 21:44:54 GMT 1, I heard on the radio an ex Kremlin insider stating that Russia are far too heavily reliant on Europe to take this too far and he thought it was merely posturing on both the Russian and US sides.
I heard on the radio an ex Kremlin insider stating that Russia are far too heavily reliant on Europe to take this too far and he thought it was merely posturing on both the Russian and US sides.
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Russian Problems?, by mose on Aug 28, 2008 22:01:09 GMT 1, There is very little we (the US) can do without the support of the UN and other countries.
that's not accurate, but if you like thinking it I say go ahead.....
There is very little we (the US) can do without the support of the UN and other countries. that's not accurate, but if you like thinking it I say go ahead..... |
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Russian Problems?, by ikkeno on Aug 29, 2008 1:05:19 GMT 1, Its a complex situation, but it follows the familiar recepie of; wanting control over territories because of strategic advantages and offcourse over resources...money and power basicaly, money=power, power=money etc...
I dugg up a video I remember wathing a few weeks ago when the conflict started
www.liveleak.com/view?i=8bf_1218721868
I belive it somewhat summarizes what the russians belive to be the truth about the conflict/story...
(btw, I havent had time or interest lately to follow this conflict so I havent decided yet on what side I stand and where I should put the blame, so please dont start ranting about me supporting the opinions presented in this vid or anyother for that matter, I dont, Im only using it as an example)
If its one thing ive learnt over the years following international politics/conflicts/finances its that theirs allways atleast two sides of the story, and both are most often equaly belivable, but truth is a relative term so...
Its a complex situation, but it follows the familiar recepie of; wanting control over territories because of strategic advantages and offcourse over resources...money and power basicaly, money=power, power=money etc... I dugg up a video I remember wathing a few weeks ago when the conflict started www.liveleak.com/view?i=8bf_1218721868I belive it somewhat summarizes what the russians belive to be the truth about the conflict/story... (btw, I havent had time or interest lately to follow this conflict so I havent decided yet on what side I stand and where I should put the blame, so please dont start ranting about me supporting the opinions presented in this vid or anyother for that matter, I dont, Im only using it as an example) If its one thing ive learnt over the years following international politics/conflicts/finances its that theirs allways atleast two sides of the story, and both are most often equaly belivable, but truth is a relative term so... |
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Russian Problems?, by dmandpenfold on Aug 29, 2008 21:40:05 GMT 1, Roar bear! When they have no oil left, its a massive backward, divided, political inept and f**ked country that no one will give a s**t about. This current power flexing is just the rigor mortis of a dying nation.
gotta agree with slowmo..Russia's spent that last hundred years in decay and oppression under one self serving gangster or another, today is no different. A lot of chest beating by a crumbling backward state held together purely by the glue of oil, how longs that going to last.
Roar bear! When they have no oil left, its a massive backward, divided, political inept and f**ked country that no one will give a s**t about. This current power flexing is just the rigor mortis of a dying nation. gotta agree with slowmo..Russia's spent that last hundred years in decay and oppression under one self serving gangster or another, today is no different. A lot of chest beating by a crumbling backward state held together purely by the glue of oil, how longs that going to last. |
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Russian Problems?, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 10:27:57 GMT 1, BONGO RECENTLY BACK FROM RUSSIA AND BELARUS
BONGO IS NOT SURPRISED BY RUSSIAN MOVES GIVEN RUSSIA HISTORY & INSECURITY REGARDING BORDERS
BONGO DESO NOT WHOLLY BLAME RUSSIA FOR SITUATION.
NOT COLD WAR BUT COLD WAR LITE
INDEED COLD WAR BY PROXY
NO ONE INVOLVED IN THIS DISPUTE CAN CLAIM TO HAVE CLEAN HANDS
BONGO RECENTLY BACK FROM RUSSIA AND BELARUS
BONGO IS NOT SURPRISED BY RUSSIAN MOVES GIVEN RUSSIA HISTORY & INSECURITY REGARDING BORDERS
BONGO DESO NOT WHOLLY BLAME RUSSIA FOR SITUATION.
NOT COLD WAR BUT COLD WAR LITE
INDEED COLD WAR BY PROXY
NO ONE INVOLVED IN THIS DISPUTE CAN CLAIM TO HAVE CLEAN HANDS
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Russian Problems?, by Deleted on Aug 31, 2008 10:34:13 GMT 1, 
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Russian Problems?, by shaunyboy on Aug 31, 2008 10:51:34 GMT 1, If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so.
As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference.
Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality.
If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so.
As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference.
Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality.
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Russian Problems?, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 12:14:36 GMT 1, BONGO BELIEVES THIS HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH GEORGIA AND SOUTH OSSETIA IN REALITY
BONGO BELIEVES THIS HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH GEORGIA AND SOUTH OSSETIA IN REALITY
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Russian Problems?, by goffy on Aug 31, 2008 12:18:26 GMT 1, I think it is partly the cheeky fucking American government's fault wanting to place missiles 'defense shield' on Russia's borders, "to protect against rogue states like Iran" WTF.
I think it is partly the cheeky fucking American government's fault wanting to place missiles 'defense shield' on Russia's borders, "to protect against rogue states like Iran" WTF.
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Russian Problems?, by BONGO on Aug 31, 2008 12:21:18 GMT 1, THE PEOPLE OF THE CAUCUSES ARE PRAWNS IN GIANT SEAFOOD GAME
THE PAIR OF BIGGER FISH NEED TO CONSUME THEM TO SURVIVE
THE PEOPLE OF THE CAUCUSES ARE PRAWNS IN GIANT SEAFOOD GAME
THE PAIR OF BIGGER FISH NEED TO CONSUME THEM TO SURVIVE
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Russian Problems?, by master on Aug 31, 2008 12:56:51 GMT 1, If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality.
If it was only that simple, world would be a wonderful place to live! 
If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality. If it was only that simple, world would be a wonderful place to live! |
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Russian Problems?, by shaunyboy on Aug 31, 2008 13:12:27 GMT 1, THE PEOPLE OF THE CAUCUSES ARE PRAWNS IN GIANT SEAFOOD GAME THE PAIR OF BIGGER FISH NEED TO CONSUME THEM TO SURVIVE
ahhh the wonders of realpolitik.
Shame so many innocents die.
THE PEOPLE OF THE CAUCUSES ARE PRAWNS IN GIANT SEAFOOD GAME THE PAIR OF BIGGER FISH NEED TO CONSUME THEM TO SURVIVE ahhh the wonders of realpolitik. Shame so many innocents die. |
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Russian Problems?, by Octopus UK on Aug 31, 2008 17:38:54 GMT 1, If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality.
If giving people Russia passports makes them Russian. Also, does the same apply to Chechnya if it wants to break away from Russia.
If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality. If giving people Russia passports makes them Russian. Also, does the same apply to Chechnya if it wants to break away from Russia. |
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Russian Problems?, by shaunyboy on Aug 31, 2008 17:50:59 GMT 1, If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality. If giving people Russia passports makes them Russian. Also, does the same apply to Chechnya if it wants to break away from Russia.
Thats normally how it works and if the majority in Chechnya want to break away from Russia. What do you think?
If South Ossetia want to be an independent country then they should be able to be so. As I understand the situation most of the 70,000 people in South Ossetia are in fact Russian and want to be a part of Russia or at the very least have complete autonomy over their own country, free from Georgia's interference. Lets have another referendum, lets have another majority saying they do not want to be a part of Georgia and let's have the world accept this reality. If giving people Russia passports makes them Russian. Also, does the same apply to Chechnya if it wants to break away from Russia. Thats normally how it works and if the majority in Chechnya want to break away from Russia. What do you think? |
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Russian Problems?, by mose on Aug 31, 2008 17:54:02 GMT 1, if the majority in Chechnya want to break away from Russia.
they will do so in body bags.
if the majority in Chechnya want to break away from Russia. they will do so in body bags. |
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