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jB
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by jB on Aug 11, 2008 21:04:36 GMT 1, is it signed being number 13?
is it signed being number 13?
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by felix on Aug 11, 2008 21:06:37 GMT 1, I thought this one looked a bit strange, I would make sure you exchange at POW offices and pay the ยฃ50 authentication charge.
I thought this one looked a bit strange, I would make sure you exchange at POW offices and pay the ยฃ50 authentication charge.
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 11, 2008 21:06:40 GMT 1, back when these were done, numbering was random.
therefore it is very possible that 13 may be unsigned
back when these were done, numbering was random.
therefore it is very possible that 13 may be unsigned
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jB
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by jB on Aug 11, 2008 21:07:13 GMT 1, gotcha
gotcha
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by onemandown72 on Aug 11, 2008 21:09:22 GMT 1, I was talking about this with my neighbour - if you love the image, want it up on the wall then it's a great price for an early Banksy.
I was talking about this with my neighbour - if you love the image, want it up on the wall then it's a great price for an early Banksy.
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by felix on Aug 11, 2008 21:12:11 GMT 1, I wouldn't give two craps about the damage, just make sure it's the real McCoy before exchanging monies.
I wouldn't give two craps about the damage, just make sure it's the real McCoy before exchanging monies.
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by felix on Aug 11, 2008 21:14:53 GMT 1, Btw nice purchase, great price, hope it all goes well!
Btw nice purchase, great price, hope it all goes well!
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Daz
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by Daz on Aug 11, 2008 21:19:05 GMT 1, def meet at pow
def meet at pow
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by slowmo on Aug 11, 2008 21:21:51 GMT 1, Just looked very closely with the cutter line on the image with mine, this looks good mate. Ask for his full name and address at time of purchase, set up an email address that is loosely related to his name, then email POW pretending to be this fella, if the email confirms the name, its prov and more importantly puts your mind at ease.
Just looked very closely with the cutter line on the image with mine, this looks good mate. Ask for his full name and address at time of purchase, set up an email address that is loosely related to his name, then email POW pretending to be this fella, if the email confirms the name, its prov and more importantly puts your mind at ease.
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dinomaa
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by dinomaa on Aug 11, 2008 21:25:51 GMT 1, He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood.
He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood.
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by bobbyt23 on Aug 11, 2008 21:28:47 GMT 1, can you not just meet at pow to get it verified then do the deal?
can you not just meet at pow to get it verified then do the deal?
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G-Man
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by G-Man on Aug 11, 2008 21:39:37 GMT 1, He doesn't wanna travel to London which is fair enough I reckon
Can anyone else that owns this print let me know waht they think of it and what to look out for??
The guy is OK for me to pick up the print in person which gives me confidence but when I get there what should I look out for?
Ta
He doesn't wanna travel to London which is fair enough I reckon
Can anyone else that owns this print let me know waht they think of it and what to look out for??
The guy is OK for me to pick up the print in person which gives me confidence but when I get there what should I look out for?
Ta
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by Deleted on Aug 11, 2008 21:43:57 GMT 1, He doesn't wanna travel to London which is fair enough I reckon Can anyone else that owns this print let me know waht they think of it and what to look out for?? The guy is OK for me to pick up the print in person which gives me confidence but when I get there what should I look out for? Ta
Printing presses. Seriously though, you will at least have his address if he is at home and he does say he offers a refund if its found to be dodgy (although he is the first owner). Trust your gut feeling!.
He doesn't wanna travel to London which is fair enough I reckon Can anyone else that owns this print let me know waht they think of it and what to look out for?? The guy is OK for me to pick up the print in person which gives me confidence but when I get there what should I look out for? Ta Printing presses. Seriously though, you will at least have his address if he is at home and he does say he offers a refund if its found to be dodgy (although he is the first owner). Trust your gut feeling!. |
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by manty on Aug 12, 2008 1:49:22 GMT 1, He said he didnt have a reciept, he says its genuine or your money back, he is letting you collect from his house.
You got it at a good price
I think you should just pay up and enjoy the print, you bidded for it, won it, you should complete the deal, the time for questions was during the auction not after.
Have a nice day :-)
He said he didnt have a reciept, he says its genuine or your money back, he is letting you collect from his house.
You got it at a good price
I think you should just pay up and enjoy the print, you bidded for it, won it, you should complete the deal, the time for questions was during the auction not after.
Have a nice day :-)
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by graeme501 on Aug 12, 2008 2:21:10 GMT 1, yeah it was a really good price
pay through paypal, paying the extra fee's if u have to, and take it to POW, get it verified - if it turns out to be a fake ask him for a refund and if he ignores file a claim through paypal
yeah it was a really good price
pay through paypal, paying the extra fee's if u have to, and take it to POW, get it verified - if it turns out to be a fake ask him for a refund and if he ignores file a claim through paypal
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jakek
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by jakek on Aug 12, 2008 6:37:08 GMT 1, He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood.
If he's the original owner and it's a low print number there's every chance he bought them having no idea what their value would be worth and so didn't think about keeping receipts. At the time i'd bought a few pieces from the Greenleaf bookshop in bristol and the best you could hope for there was a till receipt as provenance (i don't even know if they had their name on them).
I would say i prefer Bomb Middle England and Have a Nice Day from this series.
He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood. If he's the original owner and it's a low print number there's every chance he bought them having no idea what their value would be worth and so didn't think about keeping receipts. At the time i'd bought a few pieces from the Greenleaf bookshop in bristol and the best you could hope for there was a till receipt as provenance (i don't even know if they had their name on them). I would say i prefer Bomb Middle England and Have a Nice Day from this series. |
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nixon451
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by nixon451 on Aug 12, 2008 17:12:56 GMT 1, Perhaps I am old school, but considering you won the auction I think you should just pay the man.
I always thought you were supposed to ask questions before bidding, but what do I know.
Perhaps I am old school, but considering you won the auction I think you should just pay the man.
I always thought you were supposed to ask questions before bidding, but what do I know.
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by onemandown72 on Aug 12, 2008 17:47:20 GMT 1, He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood. If he's the original owner and it's a low print number there's every chance he bought them having no idea what their value would be worth and so didn't think about keeping receipts. At the time i'd bought a few pieces from the Greenleaf bookshop in bristol and the best you could hope for there was a till receipt as provenance (i don't even know if they had their name on them). I would say i prefer Bomb Middle England and Have a Nice Day from this series.
As is the case with my Bomb Hugger from Tom Tom. In fact I would be very surprised, if anybody at the time had wanted prov for a ยฃ50 unsigned print, that had been bought with no intention to sell and to stick up on your wall
He has sold another print without any provenance. Not saying that means much, probably just coincidence - it looks qood. If he's the original owner and it's a low print number there's every chance he bought them having no idea what their value would be worth and so didn't think about keeping receipts. At the time i'd bought a few pieces from the Greenleaf bookshop in bristol and the best you could hope for there was a till receipt as provenance (i don't even know if they had their name on them). I would say i prefer Bomb Middle England and Have a Nice Day from this series. As is the case with my Bomb Hugger from Tom Tom. In fact I would be very surprised, if anybody at the time had wanted prov for a ยฃ50 unsigned print, that had been bought with no intention to sell and to stick up on your wall |
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G-Man
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by G-Man on Aug 12, 2008 19:57:26 GMT 1, Hey guys thanks for all your input I really appreciate it thats what the forum is all about
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The end of the story goes like this......
I called Lawrence at AR to try and authenticate but Lawrence being Lawrence (you know  ) was a bit vague about the older prints sayin that they didn't keep a database of these early prints...
I spoke to Dora who said that it looked OK but couldnt be sure and thought that this early a number should have been signed really.....
I spoke to a mate who reminded me about the early non-blind-stamped prints with fake receipts from AR which were good fakes.......
I spoke to the seller who was sure about the genuine-ness of the print as it was in an early AR frame did have no prov and got it as a gift gave me his address and said that if it didn't check out with Dora that he'd refund all my cash and I could collect in person....
Then I arranged that I would pay thro PP and a mate of mine would pick up in person tmw in Brighton......
Then I get a call from the seller saying that it all seems like a lot of complications and he's now paranoid aout the print being fake, doesn't want to have to refund me if I find out that it is fake etc etc wants to call the deal off and will give good feedback!!!
Well I reckon that the guy wasn't sure if it was a fake or not and didn't like all my sniffing around so.........
Either I got a lucky escape from an early fake or missed out on a bargain on this one? ?
You decide??!!!!!!
Hey guys thanks for all your input I really appreciate it thats what the forum is all about ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The end of the story goes like this...... I called Lawrence at AR to try and authenticate but Lawrence being Lawrence (you know ) was a bit vague about the older prints sayin that they didn't keep a database of these early prints... I spoke to Dora who said that it looked OK but couldnt be sure and thought that this early a number should have been signed really..... I spoke to a mate who reminded me about the early non-blind-stamped prints with fake receipts from AR which were good fakes....... I spoke to the seller who was sure about the genuine-ness of the print as it was in an early AR frame did have no prov and got it as a gift gave me his address and said that if it didn't check out with Dora that he'd refund all my cash and I could collect in person.... Then I arranged that I would pay thro PP and a mate of mine would pick up in person tmw in Brighton...... Then I get a call from the seller saying that it all seems like a lot of complications and he's now paranoid aout the print being fake, doesn't want to have to refund me if I find out that it is fake etc etc wants to call the deal off and will give good feedback!!! Well I reckon that the guy wasn't sure if it was a fake or not and didn't like all my sniffing around so......... Either I got a lucky escape from an early fake or missed out on a bargain on this one? ? You decide? ?!!!!!! |
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by arcam on Aug 12, 2008 20:25:39 GMT 1, Who knows hey......
Who knows hey......
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by grantb on Aug 12, 2008 20:30:21 GMT 1, ohh i reckon fake. he knows you will find its a fake then he will have to go through the unessesscery hassle.
if he wants to just leave positive that means he will be paying ebay fees which will be a lot ?
also if you do leave him positive it give him ammunition meaning he can be trusted andwill use that to sell more fakes??
ohh i reckon fake. he knows you will find its a fake then he will have to go through the unessesscery hassle.
if he wants to just leave positive that means he will be paying ebay fees which will be a lot ?
also if you do leave him positive it give him ammunition meaning he can be trusted andwill use that to sell more fakes??
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discoduster
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by discoduster on Aug 12, 2008 20:33:14 GMT 1, What a waste of fucking time...Cheers for that.
What a waste of fucking time...Cheers for that.
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jfury
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by jfury on Aug 12, 2008 20:46:05 GMT 1, What a waste of f**king time...Cheers for that.
hahaha
What a waste of f**king time...Cheers for that. hahaha |
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dotdot
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by dotdot on Aug 12, 2008 20:58:33 GMT 1, interesting story.. ahem could be a good
deal.. however it is slightly imperfect. (damaged..)
ok if you're still interested (imho of course)...
contact seller - advise "if you want a deal it goes to
pow for full verification" ie what dora recommends
- be that pest control or send it in.
advise seller that you'll pay for the hassle (a minor
detail if it turns out to be fake..).
if the seller is genuine they'll bite the bullet and not
want to be assoc with "bringing the game into disrepute"...
- (from what you've said they seem ok.. if a little tense
toward the end..)
you're the buyer - it's your choice and if you're
still keen.... their call.
keep us posted.
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oh and may i echo what manty said - these things
should *always* be sorted pre bid. (m + 1)
interesting story.. ahem could be a good
deal.. however it is slightly imperfect. (damaged..)
ok if you're still interested (imho of course)...
contact seller - advise "if you want a deal it goes to
pow for full verification" ie what dora recommends
- be that pest control or send it in.
advise seller that you'll pay for the hassle (a minor
detail if it turns out to be fake..).
if the seller is genuine they'll bite the bullet and not
want to be assoc with "bringing the game into disrepute"...
- (from what you've said they seem ok.. if a little tense
toward the end..)
you're the buyer - it's your choice and if you're
still keen.... their call.
keep us posted.
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oh and may i echo what manty said - these things
should *always* be sorted pre bid. (m + 1)
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loucastel
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by loucastel on Aug 12, 2008 21:02:24 GMT 1, It's like a bloody lynch mob on here, none of you know if it is fake or not, I hope that you have missed a bargain, because if I was the selller, and being buggered around like this after the auction had ended, I would pull out also, any questions should be asked during, not after the auction, If unsure, why bid?
It's like a bloody lynch mob on here, none of you know if it is fake or not, I hope that you have missed a bargain, because if I was the selller, and being buggered around like this after the auction had ended, I would pull out also, any questions should be asked during, not after the auction, If unsure, why bid? |
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by Guest on Aug 12, 2008 21:06:59 GMT 1, great story, for a novel!
great story, for a novel!
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by grantb on Aug 12, 2008 21:23:31 GMT 1, actually my post does seem like im saying its a deffinite fake...but im not 100%
the way i look at it is
"If your not 100% sure dont get it, if you are deffinetly sure get it"
actually my post does seem like im saying its a deffinite fake...but im not 100%
the way i look at it is
"If your not 100% sure dont get it, if you are deffinetly sure get it"
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Help please? THANKS and the end...?, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Aug 12, 2008 21:53:28 GMT 1, not surprised he wants out of the deal.
you would do my nut. i think if i was him i'd pay you to leave it frankly!
not surprised he wants out of the deal.
you would do my nut. i think if i was him i'd pay you to leave it frankly!
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? The damage looks like it could be restored easily for under ยฃ100
) was a bit vague about the older prints sayin that they didn't keep a database of these early prints...
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