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What advice would you give in this situation? , by Guest on Jun 17, 2008 1:15:40 GMT 1, Kind of curious how the lot here would handle an email like this that I just got from an upset father...
Dear Jet Set Group,
I have a 22 year old son who has been in trouble with the law for tagging walls around the Cleveland Ohio area. I'm frustrated and supportive of his work, but feel he needs to express himself legally on canvas versus private citizens property. My plea, could you possibly review his work and offer him an apprenticeship? I'm sure he would work for free for a period of time, I don't want him to end up jail or prison. Please help me.
Desperate,
Brian 330-XXX-8X1X
Kind of curious how the lot here would handle an email like this that I just got from an upset father...
Dear Jet Set Group,
I have a 22 year old son who has been in trouble with the law for tagging walls around the Cleveland Ohio area. I'm frustrated and supportive of his work, but feel he needs to express himself legally on canvas versus private citizens property. My plea, could you possibly review his work and offer him an apprenticeship? I'm sure he would work for free for a period of time, I don't want him to end up jail or prison. Please help me.
Desperate,
Brian 330-XXX-8X1X
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by jB on Jun 17, 2008 1:47:43 GMT 1, give the kid a chance
give the kid a chance
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by freeisthemagic on Jun 17, 2008 5:50:44 GMT 1, Let him fuck up some more walls its what he loves.
Let him fuck up some more walls its what he loves.
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by thesewalls on Jun 17, 2008 6:03:31 GMT 1, He can still f*ck up walls while he does his apprenticeship - it's surely a step in the right direction. Make it part time or something...a chance to prove himself so to speak.
I wonder who else the desperate father sent similar messages to? Maybe he's the one in need of an 'apprenticeship'?
He can still f*ck up walls while he does his apprenticeship - it's surely a step in the right direction. Make it part time or something...a chance to prove himself so to speak.
I wonder who else the desperate father sent similar messages to? Maybe he's the one in need of an 'apprenticeship'?
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by jamesreeve5 on Jun 17, 2008 6:59:02 GMT 1, I wonder who else the desperate father sent similar messages to? Maybe he's the one in need of an 'apprenticeship'?
haha... first thing I thought as well
I wonder who else the desperate father sent similar messages to? Maybe he's the one in need of an 'apprenticeship'? haha... first thing I thought as well |
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by onemandown72 on Jun 17, 2008 7:51:45 GMT 1, Take a look at his work, and that'll make your mind up
Take a look at his work, and that'll make your mind up
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by funster on Jun 17, 2008 9:09:27 GMT 1, I say give him a chance. Maybe he'll end up being so in awe with your work he'll give up and get a desk job 
I say give him a chance. Maybe he'll end up being so in awe with your work he'll give up and get a desk job |
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by chuggabuttnose on Jun 17, 2008 10:50:53 GMT 1, Sell him one of you Gold Flags, which you seem to have an endless supply of!!!
Sell him one of you Gold Flags, which you seem to have an endless supply of!!!
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by seidbereit on Jun 17, 2008 11:06:02 GMT 1, Dear Brian,
thank you for your email. I'm enclosing contact details for Sir Alan Sugar as it sounds like your son is just the sort of candidate he'll be looking for on his next series, in fact he sounds like a winner.
Many thanks
JSG
PS. there's no difference between jail and prison.
Dear Brian,
thank you for your email. I'm enclosing contact details for Sir Alan Sugar as it sounds like your son is just the sort of candidate he'll be looking for on his next series, in fact he sounds like a winner.
Many thanks
JSG
PS. there's no difference between jail and prison.
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by jonvespa on Jun 17, 2008 14:51:34 GMT 1, Dear Brian, PS. there's no difference between jail and prison.
technically, jail is short term, around a year, prison could be lifelong. for the day job, i go to both to see clients.
i would work with the kid, keep him off the streets (at least until he's good), nothing worse than bad tagging...trust me, i live in the LBC, bad tagging is EVERYWHERE....very little creativity....
Dear Brian, PS. there's no difference between jail and prison. technically, jail is short term, around a year, prison could be lifelong. for the day job, i go to both to see clients. i would work with the kid, keep him off the streets (at least until he's good), nothing worse than bad tagging...trust me, i live in the LBC, bad tagging is EVERYWHERE....very little creativity.... |
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by pastiepie on Jun 17, 2008 15:03:31 GMT 1, He obviouslly doesn't realise that street artists also "vandalise" property. The thing is if you're good enough (ala Banksy) you don't seem to get in trouble for it. So my advice would be to become better at what you do.
He obviouslly doesn't realise that street artists also "vandalise" property. The thing is if you're good enough (ala Banksy) you don't seem to get in trouble for it. So my advice would be to become better at what you do.
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by Daan on Jun 17, 2008 15:22:25 GMT 1, Ha, I have a 22 year old son. Come on that's not a kid but a grown man, if not something went wrong in the raising part on his end...
Ha, I have a 22 year old son. Come on that's not a kid but a grown man, if not something went wrong in the raising part on his end...
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by GVD on Jun 17, 2008 16:01:44 GMT 1, I would hand his fathers details and the email to the police, that'll show that tagger ;D.
Haha no seriously, i would see if his work is any good. If its good then take him, if not, well too bad.
I would hand his fathers details and the email to the police, that'll show that tagger ;D.
Haha no seriously, i would see if his work is any good. If its good then take him, if not, well too bad.
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by Guest on Jun 17, 2008 16:14:01 GMT 1, I agree with pretty much everyone on here...
This is the thing. The 22yr. old IS the father, and he spent 180 days in county for Graffiti and Breaking Parole last fall. Now he's trying to get his shit together and move forward with his life.
His story is a dime a dozen. His artwork is crap. He is little more than a red-neck street thug with a can of paint, as far as I can tell.
I told him to just continue doing what he loves to do, and be productive and constructive with his actions. I told him that he needs to give his work some context to be able to reach people.
I have no idea how the guy got my name or contact info. I'd like to think that I maintain a pretty low profile.
Oh, and here in the USA; Jail generally refers to town or county lock-up, and prison is state or federal; where the big boys party.
Finally, I'm here in Vegas, and he's in Ohio. How the hell can I give him a job? What was he thinking?
I agree with pretty much everyone on here...
This is the thing. The 22yr. old IS the father, and he spent 180 days in county for Graffiti and Breaking Parole last fall. Now he's trying to get his shit together and move forward with his life.
His story is a dime a dozen. His artwork is crap. He is little more than a red-neck street thug with a can of paint, as far as I can tell.
I told him to just continue doing what he loves to do, and be productive and constructive with his actions. I told him that he needs to give his work some context to be able to reach people.
I have no idea how the guy got my name or contact info. I'd like to think that I maintain a pretty low profile.
Oh, and here in the USA; Jail generally refers to town or county lock-up, and prison is state or federal; where the big boys party.
Finally, I'm here in Vegas, and he's in Ohio. How the hell can I give him a job? What was he thinking?
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by jonvespa on Jun 17, 2008 16:33:05 GMT 1, I agree with pretty much everyone on here... This is the thing. The 22yr. old IS the father, and he spent 180 days in county for Graffiti and Breaking Parole last fall. Now he's trying to get his s**t together and move forward with his life. His story is a dime a dozen. His artwork is crap. He is little more than a red-neck street thug with a can of paint, as far as I can tell. I told him to just continue doing what he loves to do, and be productive and constructive with his actions. I told him that he needs to give his work some context to be able to reach people. I have no idea how the guy got my name or contact info. I'd like to think that I maintain a pretty low profile. Oh, and here in the USA; Jail generally refers to town or county lock-up, and prison is state or federal; where the big boys party. Finally, I'm here in Vegas, and he's in Ohio. How the hell can I give him a job? What was he thinking?
ummm, isnt CRAZY JAKE closer to ohio :-)
I agree with pretty much everyone on here... This is the thing. The 22yr. old IS the father, and he spent 180 days in county for Graffiti and Breaking Parole last fall. Now he's trying to get his s**t together and move forward with his life. His story is a dime a dozen. His artwork is crap. He is little more than a red-neck street thug with a can of paint, as far as I can tell. I told him to just continue doing what he loves to do, and be productive and constructive with his actions. I told him that he needs to give his work some context to be able to reach people. I have no idea how the guy got my name or contact info. I'd like to think that I maintain a pretty low profile. Oh, and here in the USA; Jail generally refers to town or county lock-up, and prison is state or federal; where the big boys party. Finally, I'm here in Vegas, and he's in Ohio. How the hell can I give him a job? What was he thinking? ummm, isnt CRAZY JAKE closer to ohio :-) |
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What advice would you give in this situation? , by Guest on Jun 17, 2008 17:42:41 GMT 1, Yes, Jake is in Ohio, called me this morning to see if there was anything he could do to help! What a great guy.
I gave him the convicted artist's name and number, and told him that he could call him if he wants to help or give some advice or something...
Was really impressed with Crazy Jake this morning. Definitely someone who's looking out for the best interest of the community!
Yes, Jake is in Ohio, called me this morning to see if there was anything he could do to help! What a great guy.
I gave him the convicted artist's name and number, and told him that he could call him if he wants to help or give some advice or something...
Was really impressed with Crazy Jake this morning. Definitely someone who's looking out for the best interest of the community!
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