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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by slowmo on May 26, 2008 14:07:30 GMT 1, Suit bashing, it's rife on here, not sure why, but how many people have to wear a suit to work then? I do, does that make me the man? The bloke who could never have known about the scene until money was involved?
Personally for me, no, graffiti has been a part of my life as long as I can remember, so I don't really see what donning a suit does that turns people into some sort of evil anti christ of street art, discussions welcome, votes admired more.
Suit bashing, it's rife on here, not sure why, but how many people have to wear a suit to work then? I do, does that make me the man? The bloke who could never have known about the scene until money was involved?
Personally for me, no, graffiti has been a part of my life as long as I can remember, so I don't really see what donning a suit does that turns people into some sort of evil anti christ of street art, discussions welcome, votes admired more.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by dslug on May 26, 2008 14:12:13 GMT 1, Dont take anything you read on the internet to heart,opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
Dont take anything you read on the internet to heart,opinions are like assholes everyone has one.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by loucastel on May 26, 2008 14:17:20 GMT 1, I think the suit thing is just an overused annalogy by people who reckon that people who wear suits to work make a lot more money that the average guy, how wrong they can be, it's just an expression after all, why anybody should take offense is beyond me, clothes and art, strange!! doesnt matter if you wear Armani or Primark.
I think the suit thing is just an overused annalogy by people who reckon that people who wear suits to work make a lot more money that the average guy, how wrong they can be, it's just an expression after all, why anybody should take offense is beyond me, clothes and art, strange!! doesnt matter if you wear Armani or Primark.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by shaunyboy on May 26, 2008 14:23:24 GMT 1, Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to.
If you want to=good.
If you have to=bad.
I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work.
What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits.
For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do.
Join the revolution and tell 'em to FUCK OFF.
Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to.
If you want to=good.
If you have to=bad.
I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work.
What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits.
For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do.
Join the revolution and tell 'em to FUCK OFF.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by mammal2 on May 26, 2008 14:26:26 GMT 1, Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to. If you want to=good. If you have to=bad. I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work. What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do. Join the revolution and tell 'em to f**k OFF.
Though to be fair if you turn up to an investment appraisal meeting in a tight perished g string and nought else your not going to close that deal and the kids are going to be eating grouting for a week.
Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to. If you want to=good. If you have to=bad. I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work. What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do. Join the revolution and tell 'em to f**k OFF. Though to be fair if you turn up to an investment appraisal meeting in a tight perished g string and nought else your not going to close that deal and the kids are going to be eating grouting for a week. |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by Oliver Winconek on May 26, 2008 14:27:10 GMT 1, Nick Walker's Vandal wears a suit and look what he gets up to!
Nick Walker's Vandal wears a suit and look what he gets up to!
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by bullet on May 26, 2008 14:27:51 GMT 1, I dont wear a suit and do ok for myself...
I think the analogy is more based around peoples opinions that people that wear suits sniff out an opportunity and pounce on it, such as making money by standing in a line for a few hours and not knowing what they are lining up for.
I dont think its based around the thoughts that people in suits earn more money at all. My local corner shop worker wears a shirt and tie and i dont think he is particularly minted.
I dont wear a suit and do ok for myself...
I think the analogy is more based around peoples opinions that people that wear suits sniff out an opportunity and pounce on it, such as making money by standing in a line for a few hours and not knowing what they are lining up for.
I dont think its based around the thoughts that people in suits earn more money at all. My local corner shop worker wears a shirt and tie and i dont think he is particularly minted.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by shaunyboy on May 26, 2008 14:30:16 GMT 1, Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to. If you want to=good. If you have to=bad. I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work. What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do. Join the revolution and tell 'em to f**k OFF. Though to be fair if you turn up to an investment appraisal meeting in a tight perished g string and nought else your not going to close that deal and the kids are going to be eating grouting for a week.
Why not try at your next investment appraisal meeting Mammal?
It might be a bit brassy though.
Its not the suit that is the problem its whether you are wearing the suit because you want to or because you are being forced to. If you want to=good. If you have to=bad. I start from the premise that all people should be able to wear what they like and the people I know resent the fact that they have to wear a suit for work. What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. For me its all about exercising power and authority. From doormen in nightclubs to managers at work they all enjoy telling people what to do. Join the revolution and tell 'em to f**k OFF. Though to be fair if you turn up to an investment appraisal meeting in a tight perished g string and nought else your not going to close that deal and the kids are going to be eating grouting for a week. Why not try at your next investment appraisal meeting Mammal? It might be a bit brassy though. |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by manchestermike on May 26, 2008 14:30:41 GMT 1, I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers (if that is what they wear), otherwise I wear jeans and a t-shirt or shirt... No tie with the suit though 
I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers (if that is what they wear), otherwise I wear jeans and a t-shirt or shirt... No tie with the suit though |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by killerkellah on May 26, 2008 14:35:28 GMT 1, if your gonna wear a suit than make sure it isnt a cheap one! nothing worse than an ill fitting suit and a pair of cheap shoes!
.... i suppose the connotation of a suit wearer is a lemming, but in truth we know that isnt always the case...
if your gonna wear a suit than make sure it isnt a cheap one! nothing worse than an ill fitting suit and a pair of cheap shoes!
.... i suppose the connotation of a suit wearer is a lemming, but in truth we know that isnt always the case...
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by dslug on May 26, 2008 14:40:52 GMT 1, serious art clothes question below.....
I am going to my first live opening soon........do I need a man bag in order to fit in ?
serious art clothes question below.....
I am going to my first live opening soon........do I need a man bag in order to fit in ?
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by Eton Groover on May 26, 2008 14:41:36 GMT 1, Nick walkers vandal wears a suit, but that could just be slick marketing aimed at the moneyed city types to make them feel a bit of inner rebellion and increase print values?
But, what do i know?
Nick walkers vandal wears a suit, but that could just be slick marketing aimed at the moneyed city types to make them feel a bit of inner rebellion and increase print values?
But, what do i know?
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by graeme501 on May 26, 2008 14:43:04 GMT 1, ha man bag
im a student, dont shoot me but i dont mind a suit, maybe its because when i graduate my choice of profession wont require me to wear one, but i can see myself sticking one on for some meetings, openings, ect ect
ha man bag
im a student, dont shoot me but i dont mind a suit, maybe its because when i graduate my choice of profession wont require me to wear one, but i can see myself sticking one on for some meetings, openings, ect ect
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by Eton Groover on May 26, 2008 14:43:35 GMT 1, BTW I wear a suit for work, it depends what job you do?
Freedom to wear a suit or not it's up to the individual. If you don't like it but need to for you job.....change career
BTW I wear a suit for work, it depends what job you do?
Freedom to wear a suit or not it's up to the individual. If you don't like it but need to for you job.....change career
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by nikki27 on May 26, 2008 15:10:34 GMT 1,
There is something so sexy about a man in a sharp suit, I wish my other half had to wear one to work..
There is something so sexy about a man in a sharp suit, I wish my other half had to wear one to work..
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by Eton Groover on May 26, 2008 15:13:42 GMT 1, Well, when he is at work how about i pop round in mine?
Well, when he is at work how about i pop round in mine?
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by nikki27 on May 26, 2008 15:29:16 GMT 1, lMAO....That made me smile..
I'am not a desperate housewife,... well not yet anyway...
lMAO....That made me smile..
I'am not a desperate housewife,... well not yet anyway...
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by guest2 on May 26, 2008 17:13:10 GMT 1, I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers.....
and when you're in court of course 
I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers..... and when you're in court of course |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by manchestermike on May 26, 2008 17:17:37 GMT 1, I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers..... and when you're in court of course
That goes without saying ;D
I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers..... and when you're in court of course That goes without saying ;D |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by dh on May 26, 2008 20:04:06 GMT 1, I have to wear a uniform does trhat count?
I have to wear a uniform does trhat count?
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by slowmo on May 26, 2008 20:50:18 GMT 1, what sort of uniform?
what sort of uniform?
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by manchestermike on May 26, 2008 21:07:29 GMT 1,
;D
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by nikki27 on May 26, 2008 21:36:59 GMT 1, I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers..... and when you're in court of course
Hi Frankie.. Iam back round again so keep me updated yeah x
lol ...not to sure about that uniform, i really hope you dont go to work looking like that .... .
I wear a suit when I go out to see some customers..... and when you're in court of course Hi Frankie.. Iam back round again so keep me updated yeah x lol ...not to sure about that uniform, i really hope you dont go to work looking like that .... . |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by dh on May 26, 2008 21:41:15 GMT 1, ;D
Hahaha not far off
;D Hahaha not far off |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by angryboy on May 27, 2008 10:43:56 GMT 1, The impression I get from my short time on here is certain folk think that people that wear a suit can't possibly have any history/artistic interest in this scene, are only in it for the money or because they want to look cool and are causing prices to go up and out of real fans reach. Obvisouly for the most part it's a pretty nonsensical and biggoted view but new lovers of the art with money are pushing prices up, whether they wear a suit or not is debatable though.
The impression I get from my short time on here is certain folk think that people that wear a suit can't possibly have any history/artistic interest in this scene, are only in it for the money or because they want to look cool and are causing prices to go up and out of real fans reach. Obvisouly for the most part it's a pretty nonsensical and biggoted view but new lovers of the art with money are pushing prices up, whether they wear a suit or not is debatable though.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by funyoung on May 27, 2008 12:24:20 GMT 1, What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits.
Afraid I disagree with this entirely. How much respect can you have for a judge in shorts and t-shirt or a banker in a tracksuit when you are entrusting them with your life savings or a doctor who is going to operate on your child but wears scruffy ripped jeans and unironed shirt.
If they can't even be entrusted with their own appearance what can you entrust them with?
Back to old-fashioned virtues for me.
What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. Afraid I disagree with this entirely. How much respect can you have for a judge in shorts and t-shirt or a banker in a tracksuit when you are entrusting them with your life savings or a doctor who is going to operate on your child but wears scruffy ripped jeans and unironed shirt. If they can't even be entrusted with their own appearance what can you entrust them with? Back to old-fashioned virtues for me. |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by redfred on May 27, 2008 12:24:54 GMT 1, I know some extremely wealthy people who never wear a suit and others working for the Minimium wage who have to wear a suit, so where does that leave us??
I know some extremely wealthy people who never wear a suit and others working for the Minimium wage who have to wear a suit, so where does that leave us??
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by angryboy on May 27, 2008 12:41:17 GMT 1, Even if a suit did show how wealthy you were wouldn't it be a bit weird to be hating on someone due to their wealth? I suppose you could blame them for the rise in prices but then I'm assuming all the haters have been in the scene for years and so have made a fortune on all their 2003 Banksy purchases they made before all the suits came late to the party and pushed the prices up.
Even if a suit did show how wealthy you were wouldn't it be a bit weird to be hating on someone due to their wealth? I suppose you could blame them for the rise in prices but then I'm assuming all the haters have been in the scene for years and so have made a fortune on all their 2003 Banksy purchases they made before all the suits came late to the party and pushed the prices up.
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by shaunyboy on May 27, 2008 12:57:27 GMT 1, What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. Afraid I disagree with this entirely. How much respect can you have for a judge in shorts and t-shirt Depends if they are a fair judge or not. Which is totally unrelated to the clothes worn.
or a banker in a tracksuit when you are entrusting them with your life savings Once again the clothes the banker wears does not make him a good banker or a bad banker. I would be more concerned with his quality of his advice not the quality of his suit.or a doctor who is going to operate on your child but wears scruffy ripped jeans and unironed shirt. Still don't know how wearing jeans will somehow make a world class surgeon an incompetent buffoon. It just doesn't add up to me.If they can't even be entrusted with their own appearance what can you entrust them with? For me it is peoples skills that are important not their appearance.Back to old-fashioned virtues for me.
Onwards and upwards for me ;D Now pass me that string vest I've got to go and operate...
What people are wearing bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to their honesty, integrity, usefulness, professionalism or ability to do any particular task therefore it leads me to ask why do some places insist on suits. Afraid I disagree with this entirely. How much respect can you have for a judge in shorts and t-shirt Depends if they are a fair judge or not. Which is totally unrelated to the clothes worn.
or a banker in a tracksuit when you are entrusting them with your life savings Once again the clothes the banker wears does not make him a good banker or a bad banker. I would be more concerned with his quality of his advice not the quality of his suit.or a doctor who is going to operate on your child but wears scruffy ripped jeans and unironed shirt. Still don't know how wearing jeans will somehow make a world class surgeon an incompetent buffoon. It just doesn't add up to me.If they can't even be entrusted with their own appearance what can you entrust them with? For me it is peoples skills that are important not their appearance.Back to old-fashioned virtues for me. |
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Just how bad is the big bad suit?, by funster on May 27, 2008 13:01:19 GMT 1, The impression I get from my short time on here is certain folk think that people that wear a suit can't possibly have any history/artistic interest in this scene, are only in it for the money or because they want to look cool and are causing prices to go up and out of real fans reach. Obvisouly for the most part it's a pretty nonsensical and biggoted view but new lovers of the art with money are pushing prices up, whether they wear a suit or not is debatable though.
I wear a suit atleast 50% of my working hours, I really don't see the problem nor it's link to me appreciating art that I know I couldn't do myself. I also started collecting street art years and years ago before the investment element was even an issue. To say that a suit automatically means all your interested in is profit is nonsense, it just means that you're within a working sector whereby it's considered polite.
As a side story... I went over to Elms Lesters the week before last to take a business acquaintance round, as I turned up early I thought I'd have a quick drink at the pub at the top of the road. I went up to the bar juggling two phones and not paying attention and ordered a beer, when I went to pay I looked around and realised I was in a goth bar with skeletons all over the place and hardcore music  - and then the manager came over and made me take my jacket and tie off 
The impression I get from my short time on here is certain folk think that people that wear a suit can't possibly have any history/artistic interest in this scene, are only in it for the money or because they want to look cool and are causing prices to go up and out of real fans reach. Obvisouly for the most part it's a pretty nonsensical and biggoted view but new lovers of the art with money are pushing prices up, whether they wear a suit or not is debatable though. I wear a suit atleast 50% of my working hours, I really don't see the problem nor it's link to me appreciating art that I know I couldn't do myself. I also started collecting street art years and years ago before the investment element was even an issue. To say that a suit automatically means all your interested in is profit is nonsense, it just means that you're within a working sector whereby it's considered polite. As a side story... I went over to Elms Lesters the week before last to take a business acquaintance round, as I turned up early I thought I'd have a quick drink at the pub at the top of the road. I went up to the bar juggling two phones and not paying attention and ordered a beer, when I went to pay I looked around and realised I was in a goth bar with skeletons all over the place and hardcore music - and then the manager came over and made me take my jacket and tie off |
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