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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Gallery Grace on Feb 3, 2008 23:04:30 GMT 1, Nice piece, I would have gone for all white frame but still looks good.
Nice piece, I would have gone for all white frame but still looks good.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by solar77 on Feb 3, 2008 23:07:21 GMT 1, 230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW 
Seems a bit expensive for an edition of 25. I would much rather have the "Stop Me Before I Paint Again" at that price.
230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW Seems a bit expensive for an edition of 25. I would much rather have the "Stop Me Before I Paint Again" at that price. |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by guest2 on Feb 3, 2008 23:07:55 GMT 1, 230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW
What did the last one at auction fetch?
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Gallery Grace
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Gallery Grace on Feb 3, 2008 23:10:03 GMT 1, 230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW What did the last one at auction fetch?
I thought it was just under half that but I may be wrong
230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW What did the last one at auction fetch? I thought it was just under half that but I may be wrong |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Va Va Voom on Feb 3, 2008 23:15:13 GMT 1, 50k for an edition of 25,joke price for a weak image..imo.
50k for an edition of 25,joke price for a weak image..imo.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by howlinhooker on Feb 3, 2008 23:16:15 GMT 1, 230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW Seems a bit expensive for an edition of 25. I would much rather have the "Stop Me Before I Paint Again" at that price.
230219630979 NOT MINE BUT 50K BUY IT NOW Seems a bit expensive for an edition of 25. I would much rather have the "Stop Me Before I Paint Again" at that price. """"COULDNT AGREE MORE MATE WOULD LOVE THAT PIECE""""" ยฃ50K CRAZY MONEY ANYWAY !!! |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by BME on Feb 3, 2008 23:20:52 GMT 1, I love this canvas. The last one at auction fetched 19k from memory but it was in pretty poor condition. I think that 50k is too high- I would have thought 25k-30k would be closer to the mark. Far too much for me anyway.
I love this canvas. The last one at auction fetched 19k from memory but it was in pretty poor condition. I think that 50k is too high- I would have thought 25k-30k would be closer to the mark. Far too much for me anyway.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by sm on Feb 3, 2008 23:26:25 GMT 1, way too much, especially in the current market. Beautiful print though, maybe one day.
way too much, especially in the current market. Beautiful print though, maybe one day.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by craigf on Feb 3, 2008 23:50:36 GMT 1, Seems odd it's a 3 day auction as it is hardly an impulse purchase!
Very nice, but you can buy a lot of ยฃ50k!
Seems odd it's a 3 day auction as it is hardly an impulse purchase!
Very nice, but you can buy a lot of ยฃ50k!
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Hoops on Feb 4, 2008 0:06:32 GMT 1, Hi All,
To answer a few questions :
Pricing ..........I was given a value of ยฃ36K for this by Laz last year.
The price which I have stated is the price that a gallery would price it up , although I would then have to pay 20% commission.....I am open to offers and hopefully would be able to meet somewhere in the middle.Dont forget that If you buy a piece at Auction then you also have to pay 20-25% commission on top of the hammer price
Yes it is an edition of 25..If it was a unique piece then it would be anywhere from ยฃ100k -ยฃ250K
Regarding the Current Climate............Although Banksy`s prices have been softening recently on close inspection you will find that it is mainly the larger edition numbers and later prints ..............The classics ie Laugh now, Radar Rat , Christ with shopping , Kate moss etc etc have not.
It is presently a 3 day auction but I may well extend it ( not sure if you can still do that though ) it is done as a 3 day so that when all the press hits regarding Bonhams my canvas should be on the first page.
Also it is 100 % authentic with a signed letter from Laz
Hi All,
To answer a few questions :
Pricing ..........I was given a value of ยฃ36K for this by Laz last year.
The price which I have stated is the price that a gallery would price it up , although I would then have to pay 20% commission.....I am open to offers and hopefully would be able to meet somewhere in the middle.Dont forget that If you buy a piece at Auction then you also have to pay 20-25% commission on top of the hammer price
Yes it is an edition of 25..If it was a unique piece then it would be anywhere from ยฃ100k -ยฃ250K
Regarding the Current Climate............Although Banksy`s prices have been softening recently on close inspection you will find that it is mainly the larger edition numbers and later prints ..............The classics ie Laugh now, Radar Rat , Christ with shopping , Kate moss etc etc have not.
It is presently a 3 day auction but I may well extend it ( not sure if you can still do that though ) it is done as a 3 day so that when all the press hits regarding Bonhams my canvas should be on the first page.
Also it is 100 % authentic with a signed letter from Laz
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by jam on Feb 4, 2008 0:14:41 GMT 1, Problem is, One just sold at the Sothebys Contemporary Art
Sale (L07713) in London for a hammer price with buyer's premium for ยฃ19,700. That means the seller actually net out about 13k. Given that piece had some condition issues, I expect you should look for around the 20-25k mark for yours as a private sale.
Problem is, One just sold at the Sothebys Contemporary Art
Sale (L07713) in London for a hammer price with buyer's premium for ยฃ19,700. That means the seller actually net out about 13k. Given that piece had some condition issues, I expect you should look for around the 20-25k mark for yours as a private sale.
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Hoops
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Hoops on Feb 4, 2008 0:41:17 GMT 1, No Problem I see
I personally wouldnt purchase a damaged print let alone a damaged canvas.........I also wouldnt let this go for ยฃ25k .....I would rather keep it a few more years then fund my kids through school
No Problem I see
I personally wouldnt purchase a damaged print let alone a damaged canvas.........I also wouldnt let this go for ยฃ25k .....I would rather keep it a few more years then fund my kids through school
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by rolyateel on Feb 4, 2008 20:27:21 GMT 1,
shame you can't fucking spell
think you'll find it's "sought"
shame you can't fucking spell
think you'll find it's "sought"
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by GB on Feb 4, 2008 20:35:20 GMT 1, not that this makes ANY difference to the price, but what was the going price for these when they came out? guessing it varied, as i am sure banksy didnt have one distribution point, also its not like you can slap a rrp on them like you can with a can of baked beans!
not that this makes ANY difference to the price, but what was the going price for these when they came out? guessing it varied, as i am sure banksy didnt have one distribution point, also its not like you can slap a rrp on them like you can with a can of baked beans!
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by crazyarsemother on Feb 4, 2008 20:41:19 GMT 1, Just out of interest is it a good quality hand made canvas or is it one of the thin cheapy hjobs from the The Works? Cheers
Just out of interest is it a good quality hand made canvas or is it one of the thin cheapy hjobs from the The Works? Cheers
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by patrese on Feb 4, 2008 20:45:48 GMT 1, think you will do well to get 15k for it
think you will do well to get 15k for it
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by funster on Feb 4, 2008 20:49:09 GMT 1, This will never ever sell at even close to ยฃ50k, maybe not even close to ยฃ25k. I appreciate where you're coming from Hoops but the people who'd buy through Laz won't buy through you/EBay and the same goes for Sotheby's/Bonhams. I sold mine last year and it was the best move I ever made in retrospect coz I bought Arms Outstretched by Neate with the ยฃ 
Crazyarsemother - the canvas is good 
This will never ever sell at even close to ยฃ50k, maybe not even close to ยฃ25k. I appreciate where you're coming from Hoops but the people who'd buy through Laz won't buy through you/EBay and the same goes for Sotheby's/Bonhams. I sold mine last year and it was the best move I ever made in retrospect coz I bought Arms Outstretched by Neate with the ยฃ Crazyarsemother - the canvas is good |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by dodge on Feb 4, 2008 21:01:50 GMT 1, shame you can't fu cking spell think you'll find it's "sought"
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shame you can't fu cking spell think you'll find it's "sought" ;D |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by funster on Feb 4, 2008 21:22:54 GMT 1, Hoops, really definately don't have a prob with you or your piece (I still drool everytime I see it!!). You've been offerred good amounts and I really think you should consider them.
Hoops, really definately don't have a prob with you or your piece (I still drool everytime I see it!!). You've been offerred good amounts and I really think you should consider them. |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by felix on Feb 4, 2008 21:26:42 GMT 1, not that this makes ANY difference to the price, but what was the going price for these when they came out? guessing it varied, as i am sure banksy didnt have one distribution point, also its not like you can slap a rrp on them like you can with a can of baked beans!
I think they were ยฃ525 when originally from POW  GULP
not that this makes ANY difference to the price, but what was the going price for these when they came out? guessing it varied, as i am sure banksy didnt have one distribution point, also its not like you can slap a rrp on them like you can with a can of baked beans! I think they were ยฃ525 when originally from POW GULP |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by funster on Feb 4, 2008 21:28:27 GMT 1, In fairness to Hoops that was a big amount of cash for an semi-unknown artist and a little sprayed canvas!
In fairness to Hoops that was a big amount of cash for an semi-unknown artist and a little sprayed canvas!
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by felix on Feb 4, 2008 21:33:20 GMT 1, In fairness to Hoops that was a big amount of cash for an semi-unknown artist and a little sprayed canvas!
Thats exactly what I thought at the time    ;D
In fairness to Hoops that was a big amount of cash for an semi-unknown artist and a little sprayed canvas! Thats exactly what I thought at the time ;D |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Hoops on Feb 4, 2008 21:35:58 GMT 1, Funstar
Indeed it was a lot of money............I was so close to buying kids + guns for ยฃ425 If my memory serves me but I really couldnt stretch to that as well even though I really Loved that image
Funstar
Indeed it was a lot of money............I was so close to buying kids + guns for ยฃ425 If my memory serves me but I really couldnt stretch to that as well even though I really Loved that image
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by flypitcher on Feb 4, 2008 21:47:24 GMT 1, Hi there, Don't worry about the kids ( keyboard gangsters) on the forum, abusing and swearing at you. This comes from envy and how bitter they are because of their own inadequacies."Burden displacement" is the term I think psychiatrists use. It is a shame that the Mods don't sort it out as it prevents a lot more intelligent people contributing to the forum.
Hi there, Don't worry about the kids ( keyboard gangsters) on the forum, abusing and swearing at you. This comes from envy and how bitter they are because of their own inadequacies."Burden displacement" is the term I think psychiatrists use. It is a shame that the Mods don't sort it out as it prevents a lot more intelligent people contributing to the forum.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by darjeeling on Feb 4, 2008 23:05:23 GMT 1, Good luck with the sell but not only did one recently sell for 19k but just a few months ago another sold for only ยฃ13k โsee the other thread linked below โ sure plus premium but the seller would only get about ยฃ12k - 50's pretty high - you might as well just whore the piece over to the gallery and let them scalp it to some over emotional client. Still, I'd kill to have something I paid a grand for be worth ยฃ10-20k. That don't happen too many times in a lifetime.
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1192183652&page=3#1192212399
Good luck with the sell but not only did one recently sell for 19k but just a few months ago another sold for only ยฃ13k โsee the other thread linked below โ sure plus premium but the seller would only get about ยฃ12k - 50's pretty high - you might as well just whore the piece over to the gallery and let them scalp it to some over emotional client. Still, I'd kill to have something I paid a grand for be worth ยฃ10-20k. That don't happen too many times in a lifetime. banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1192183652&page=3#1192212399 |
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by ABC on Feb 4, 2008 23:08:47 GMT 1, A nice canvas and to be honest he can ask what he likes for it I suppose, I turned one down a few years back for 4k.
A nice canvas and to be honest he can ask what he likes for it I suppose, I turned one down a few years back for 4k.
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by Hoops on Feb 4, 2008 23:37:05 GMT 1, darjeeling
It didnt make its reserve so didnt sell..shit time shit auction etc.....
The one a week before did though for ยฃ32k + etc etc
darjeeling
It didnt make its reserve so didnt sell..shit time shit auction etc.....
The one a week before did though for ยฃ32k + etc etc
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BLOODY NICE CANVAS ON THE BAY , by darjeeling on Feb 4, 2008 23:47:33 GMT 1, depends how you want to spin it - didn't make its reserve because no one thought it was worth that much money - and shit time??? so right now! now is a better time!?! If Laz gives you a value of 36k you should really cut that in half to get a better estimate of actual value. It's pretty normal for "estimated" value of art to be on the high side for insurance purposes. But keep it, hold on to it for another three years like you say. Might be worth a million โ then again it might be worth less. I congratulate you on your very nice and fortunate purchase but I have no respect for anyone with this kind of attitude. Reminds me of last summer when everyone was wondering if they should sell they're 'Serpia' for $10000 or hold out for 2008 when it would be worth double that. Or they're unsigned Pulp Fiction, $5000 wasn't enough, they wanted to hold out until 08 when it would be worth 10k!?!? No sympathy for them.
depends how you want to spin it - didn't make its reserve because no one thought it was worth that much money - and shit time??? so right now! now is a better time!?! If Laz gives you a value of 36k you should really cut that in half to get a better estimate of actual value. It's pretty normal for "estimated" value of art to be on the high side for insurance purposes. But keep it, hold on to it for another three years like you say. Might be worth a million โ then again it might be worth less. I congratulate you on your very nice and fortunate purchase but I have no respect for anyone with this kind of attitude. Reminds me of last summer when everyone was wondering if they should sell they're 'Serpia' for $10000 or hold out for 2008 when it would be worth double that. Or they're unsigned Pulp Fiction, $5000 wasn't enough, they wanted to hold out until 08 when it would be worth 10k!?!? No sympathy for them.
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