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Stencil or Paste Up, by carlito on Nov 21, 2007 10:58:43 GMT 1, What do you guys think about the above...?
I have to say when I think of street art I think of work with a can, work done speedily with a certain amount skill, from old skool lettering, to witty comments, to intricate stencil work - to me that's the domain of street art a style of its own copied not bettered in the gallery...
now when I think of paste ups..I think of work done in the studio, that's on the street is almost like fly pitching....yes it can look good but to me doesn't fit....I know there's been some great paste ups by Faile, Beejoir, D Face etc etc but to me its just not the same...
just my humble opinion obviously
What do you guys think about the above...?
I have to say when I think of street art I think of work with a can, work done speedily with a certain amount skill, from old skool lettering, to witty comments, to intricate stencil work - to me that's the domain of street art a style of its own copied not bettered in the gallery...
now when I think of paste ups..I think of work done in the studio, that's on the street is almost like fly pitching....yes it can look good but to me doesn't fit....I know there's been some great paste ups by Faile, Beejoir, D Face etc etc but to me its just not the same...
just my humble opinion obviously
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Stencil or Paste Up, by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 11:04:53 GMT 1, I dont dislike paste ups - if they look good or get a point accross, but i dont merit them with the same skill and artistic talent as Graff work - infact i wouldnt put it in the 'graffitti' sector, it just happens to be on the streets. Thats not to say i dont appreciate it though. Obey has done some awesome paste-ups and if its illegal and over an advert for Madonnas range of clothing for H&M then all the better...
I dont dislike paste ups - if they look good or get a point accross, but i dont merit them with the same skill and artistic talent as Graff work - infact i wouldnt put it in the 'graffitti' sector, it just happens to be on the streets. Thats not to say i dont appreciate it though. Obey has done some awesome paste-ups and if its illegal and over an advert for Madonnas range of clothing for H&M then all the better...
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Stencil or Paste Up, by carl on Nov 21, 2007 11:07:29 GMT 1, What do you guys think about the above...? I have to say when I think of street art I think of work with a can, work done speedily with a certain amount skill, from old skool lettering, to witty comments, to intricate stencil work - to me that's the domain of street art a style of its own copied not bettered in the gallery... now when I think of paste ups..I think of work done in the studio, that's on the street is almost like fly pitching....yes it can look good but to me doesn't fit....I know there's been some great paste ups by Faile, Beejoir, D Face etc etc but to me its just not the same... just my humble opinion obviously
Always better when it comes from a can. I like paste ups but they are a very different type of street art.
What do you guys think about the above...? I have to say when I think of street art I think of work with a can, work done speedily with a certain amount skill, from old skool lettering, to witty comments, to intricate stencil work - to me that's the domain of street art a style of its own copied not bettered in the gallery... now when I think of paste ups..I think of work done in the studio, that's on the street is almost like fly pitching....yes it can look good but to me doesn't fit....I know there's been some great paste ups by Faile, Beejoir, D Face etc etc but to me its just not the same... just my humble opinion obviously Always better when it comes from a can. I like paste ups but they are a very different type of street art. |
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Stencil or Paste Up, by Harveyn on Nov 21, 2007 11:37:39 GMT 1, Both good, both in fact can be fantastic, but my preference is Stencil.
Both good, both in fact can be fantastic, but my preference is Stencil.
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Stencil or Paste Up, by mcnuts on Nov 21, 2007 11:44:13 GMT 1, i prefer both as the methods can achieve different things. Stencils may have to be quick and dirty even with a complicated stencil. Spray and run unless you are like banksy and can out up a scaffold to cover your arse. Paste-ups allow the artist time to work on an image in the studio and paste it-up and run.
Both have their merits and their masters. I think if it was all one or the other, itโd be boring.
Paste-ups also, imho decay better and, in the process there of creates an aesthetic that I really like (similar to the work of new realism artists). It's something that paint/stencils alone cant replicate.
i prefer both as the methods can achieve different things. Stencils may have to be quick and dirty even with a complicated stencil. Spray and run unless you are like banksy and can out up a scaffold to cover your arse. Paste-ups allow the artist time to work on an image in the studio and paste it-up and run.
Both have their merits and their masters. I think if it was all one or the other, itโd be boring.
Paste-ups also, imho decay better and, in the process there of creates an aesthetic that I really like (similar to the work of new realism artists). It's something that paint/stencils alone cant replicate.
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Stencil or Paste Up, by Strange Al on Nov 21, 2007 12:24:12 GMT 1, Paste-ups also, imho decay better and, in the process there of create and aesthetic that I really like (similar to the work of new realism artists). It's something that paint/stencils alone cant replicate.
Swoon made some interesting comments on this point in her interview in Swindle Magazine:
"I like my artwork to have a lifecycle. Iโve done paintings using stencils. But for me the paintings donโt do anything. They just stay there. But in working with paper, as I do now, the pieces become alive. Itโs organic. The paper curls. It ages. It rots. Itโs responsive." ( swindlemagazine.com/issue04/swoon/ )
It's obviously an oversimplification to say that "paintings don't do anything", but the natural decaying process of a stencil is certainly much slower and very different to that of a paste up.
I don't have a particular preference between stencils and paste ups - if it's good art, then it's good art.
Paste-ups also, imho decay better and, in the process there of create and aesthetic that I really like (similar to the work of new realism artists). It's something that paint/stencils alone cant replicate. Swoon made some interesting comments on this point in her interview in Swindle Magazine: "I like my artwork to have a lifecycle. Iโve done paintings using stencils. But for me the paintings donโt do anything. They just stay there. But in working with paper, as I do now, the pieces become alive. Itโs organic. The paper curls. It ages. It rots. Itโs responsive." ( swindlemagazine.com/issue04/swoon/ ) It's obviously an oversimplification to say that "paintings don't do anything", but the natural decaying process of a stencil is certainly much slower and very different to that of a paste up. I don't have a particular preference between stencils and paste ups - if it's good art, then it's good art. |
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Stencil or Paste Up, by mike hunt on Nov 21, 2007 15:15:59 GMT 1, Some of the old fly posters that were up in the 80s/90s were so subversive, edgy and diverse, it made todays streetart seem tame in comparison. Who cares about the format, as long as it works?!
Some of the old fly posters that were up in the 80s/90s were so subversive, edgy and diverse, it made todays streetart seem tame in comparison. Who cares about the format, as long as it works?!
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Stencil or Paste Up, by m@san on Nov 21, 2007 19:03:41 GMT 1, I'm sure if Banksy decided to take the next print edition and paste it up around London you'd all be wetting yourself about how great paste ups are.
For all of you slagging of paste ups please feel free to send me any of your unwanted prints as they are after all only paste ups that haven't been pasted anywhere!
What would you prefer? A limited edition print or a one of hand finished paste up!
I'm sure if Banksy decided to take the next print edition and paste it up around London you'd all be wetting yourself about how great paste ups are.
For all of you slagging of paste ups please feel free to send me any of your unwanted prints as they are after all only paste ups that haven't been pasted anywhere!
What would you prefer? A limited edition print or a one of hand finished paste up!
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Stencil or Paste Up, by Simococo on Nov 21, 2007 19:30:29 GMT 1, I love a good paste up, with Bast of course being its true King...
I love a good paste up, with Bast of course being its true King...
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Stencil or Paste Up, by BK83 on Nov 21, 2007 19:31:41 GMT 1, Some people also choose to paste up because its not classed as graffiti/vandalism/paint...it is classed as fly posting. Huge difference in terms of criminal charges.
This is a very good point. In many instances you get away with simply a desk ticket for wheatpasting, whereas 9 times out of 10 if your caught spraypainting you'll be spending the night in jail.....
Some people also choose to paste up because its not classed as graffiti/vandalism/paint...it is classed as fly posting. Huge difference in terms of criminal charges. This is a very good point. In many instances you get away with simply a desk ticket for wheatpasting, whereas 9 times out of 10 if your caught spraypainting you'll be spending the night in jail..... |
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Stencil or Paste Up, by m@san on Nov 21, 2007 19:42:12 GMT 1, Some people also choose to paste up because its not classed as graffiti/vandalism/paint...it is classed as fly posting. Huge difference in terms of criminal charges. This is a very good point. In many instances you get away with simply a desk ticket for wheatpasting, whereas 9 times out of 10 if your caught spraypainting you'll be spending the night in jail.....
I've only been caught once. The police officer made me take the paste-up up down, confiscated the rest of my posters and made a note of my name & address (fake) in his notebook. I've been told that as long as you can remove it and no damage has been done to the surface at most they can only charge you with Flyposting which is a civil rather than a criminal offence.
The other thing with paste ups is that with a long decorators pole you can get stuff up above the reach of the council buffing teams.
I've recently started hammering picture nails into walls and hanging canvases which is technically criminal damage as you're making a hole in the surface.
Some people also choose to paste up because its not classed as graffiti/vandalism/paint...it is classed as fly posting. Huge difference in terms of criminal charges. This is a very good point. In many instances you get away with simply a desk ticket for wheatpasting, whereas 9 times out of 10 if your caught spraypainting you'll be spending the night in jail..... I've only been caught once. The police officer made me take the paste-up up down, confiscated the rest of my posters and made a note of my name & address (fake) in his notebook. I've been told that as long as you can remove it and no damage has been done to the surface at most they can only charge you with Flyposting which is a civil rather than a criminal offence. The other thing with paste ups is that with a long decorators pole you can get stuff up above the reach of the council buffing teams. I've recently started hammering picture nails into walls and hanging canvases which is technically criminal damage as you're making a hole in the surface. |
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