reznyce
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What should POW do from this point on?, by reznyce on Sept 26, 2007 0:23:08 GMT 1, What do people in this forum think POW should do to regain our trust, if anything?
I thought this would be a good discussion. And it will be a good way to send a message to POW.
What do people in this forum think POW should do to regain our trust, if anything?
I thought this would be a good discussion. And it will be a good way to send a message to POW.
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Deleted on Sept 26, 2007 0:26:53 GMT 1, just releasing trolly hunters will take our minds of it.
just releasing trolly hunters will take our minds of it.
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jB
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What should POW do from this point on?, by jB on Sept 26, 2007 0:28:57 GMT 1, i agree slammer ;D and allow certain people on this forum get first dibs
i agree slammer ;D and allow certain people on this forum get first dibs
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robertlondon
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What should POW do from this point on?, by robertlondon on Sept 26, 2007 1:32:18 GMT 1, Respect and trust are earned.
Flashing up some sort of "don't worry" message on a website for 1 hour on a Saturday night leads me to think that they don't know what they're doing and does not fill me with confidence.
I think POW should:- explain on their website what is happening (as far as they're allowed)
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[/li][li] list all the (25 or so) prints that are "of concern".[/color]
[/li][li] state what they are going to do to prevent this happening again - perhaps devising a better system of guaranteeing provenance other than "ringing Dora".[/color]
[/li][li] produce a definitive list of what extra official versions of each print have been produced (artist proofs etc). There's just too much ambiguity.[/color]
[/li][li] reply to customer emails within a reasonable period of time.[/color]
[/li][li] consider the reality of their market - perhaps including larger runs of unsigned editions (great for the art lover, perhaps not so great for the flipper).[/color]
[/li][li] devise a system that ensures that everyone, no matter where they are in the world, has a fighting chance of ordering prints from their website.[/color]
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...I could go on, but won't.
I like colours.
Respect and trust are earned. Flashing up some sort of "don't worry" message on a website for 1 hour on a Saturday night leads me to think that they don't know what they're doing and does not fill me with confidence. I think POW should: - explain on their website what is happening (as far as they're allowed)
[/color] [/li][li] list all the (25 or so) prints that are "of concern".[/color] [/li][li] state what they are going to do to prevent this happening again - perhaps devising a better system of guaranteeing provenance other than "ringing Dora".[/color] [/li][li] produce a definitive list of what extra official versions of each print have been produced (artist proofs etc). There's just too much ambiguity.[/color] [/li][li] reply to customer emails within a reasonable period of time.[/color] [/li][li] consider the reality of their market - perhaps including larger runs of unsigned editions (great for the art lover, perhaps not so great for the flipper).[/color] [/li][li] devise a system that ensures that everyone, no matter where they are in the world, has a fighting chance of ordering prints from their website.[/color] [/li][/ul] ...I could go on, but won't. I like colours. |
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melttheguns
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What should POW do from this point on?, by melttheguns on Sept 26, 2007 1:36:42 GMT 1, they could start by not replacing damaged prints with new prints so long after the original release. dont print so many extras. make a few extra ap's to replace immediate misfortunes. send with sturdier and safer shipping practices to minimize damage, and if damage happens and no ap's are left for replacement. tough shit...offer a refund.
they should destroy all old extra prints. (sad...but it would ease the public opinion).
a numbered edition should represent exactly how many prints are available....
they could start by not replacing damaged prints with new prints so long after the original release. dont print so many extras. make a few extra ap's to replace immediate misfortunes. send with sturdier and safer shipping practices to minimize damage, and if damage happens and no ap's are left for replacement. tough shit...offer a refund.
they should destroy all old extra prints. (sad...but it would ease the public opinion).
a numbered edition should represent exactly how many prints are available....
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reznyce
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What should POW do from this point on?, by reznyce on Sept 26, 2007 3:04:04 GMT 1, I agree with all of the above.
They should also provide a signed provenance with every print they sell. Their customer service sucks. They need to fix that. But above all, they must be transparent. I think somehow the entire process should be monitored by an independent party - some kind of auditor.
I agree with all of the above.
They should also provide a signed provenance with every print they sell. Their customer service sucks. They need to fix that. But above all, they must be transparent. I think somehow the entire process should be monitored by an independent party - some kind of auditor.
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 3:14:20 GMT 1, POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K.
POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K.
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goffy
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What should POW do from this point on?, by goffy on Sept 26, 2007 3:21:14 GMT 1, Like Frankie from Campbarbara, or Anthony from Opus plus others from other gallery/print houses, I think it would help if someone from POW would contribute regularly to this Forum. I'm sure we have more questions other than 'when's the next Banksy coming out?'
Like Frankie from Campbarbara, or Anthony from Opus plus others from other gallery/print houses, I think it would help if someone from POW would contribute regularly to this Forum. I'm sure we have more questions other than 'when's the next Banksy coming out?'
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What should POW do from this point on?, by pw on Sept 26, 2007 3:32:43 GMT 1, POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K.
theres no problem with the prints bought direct from POW. its only those bought through ebay.
if you think your POW prints are dodgy and dont want them i'm sure theres plenty of people on here who'll take them off you for cost price!
POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K. theres no problem with the prints bought direct from POW. its only those bought through ebay. if you think your POW prints are dodgy and dont want them i'm sure theres plenty of people on here who'll take them off you for cost price! |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by trebor on Sept 26, 2007 3:37:07 GMT 1, Why the fuck would POW give a shit what you think?
Why the fuck would POW give a shit what you think?
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Yessir
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 3:39:19 GMT 1, I'm not sure POW will do anything from this point on, it will be business as usually for them, in terms of when the next Banksy or Micallef print comes out, do you think they will struggle to sell them out, over a short period of time?
Some people may have doubts about POW  , but the[glow=red,2,300] reward [/glow]of owning a Banksy or Micallef to most, I assume by far outweighs the [glow=red,2,300]risk[/glow].
I'm not sure POW will do anything from this point on, it will be business as usually for them, in terms of when the next Banksy or Micallef print comes out, do you think they will struggle to sell them out, over a short period of time? Some people may have doubts about POW , but the[glow=red,2,300] reward [/glow]of owning a Banksy or Micallef to most, I assume by far outweighs the [glow=red,2,300]risk[/glow]. |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 3:42:25 GMT 1, Why the f**k would POW give a s**t what you think?
they don't - and won't as long as people continue to suck their d*ick
Why the f**k would POW give a s**t what you think? they don't - and won't as long as people continue to suck their d*ick |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 3:44:15 GMT 1, I'm not sure POW will do anything from this point on, it will be business as usually for them, in terms of when the next Banksy or Micallef print comes out, do you think they will struggle to sell them out, over a short period of time? Some people may have doubts about POW , but the[glow=red,2,300] reward [/glow]of owning a Banksy or Micallef to most, I assume by far outweighs the [glow=red,2,300]risk[/glow].
yeah the dreams of grandeur can push common sense to the side
I'm not sure POW will do anything from this point on, it will be business as usually for them, in terms of when the next Banksy or Micallef print comes out, do you think they will struggle to sell them out, over a short period of time? Some people may have doubts about POW , but the[glow=red,2,300] reward [/glow]of owning a Banksy or Micallef to most, I assume by far outweighs the [glow=red,2,300]risk[/glow]. yeah the dreams of grandeur can push common sense to the side |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 3:48:59 GMT 1, POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K.
Will POW see any of your $ again bobby?
POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K. Will POW see any of your $ again bobby? |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 3:53:21 GMT 1, POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K. Will you by from POW again?
of course - they have a monopoly on 2 artists that I care greatly about. Doesnt mean I have to be happy happy joy joy about their ineptitude and lack of integrity.
POW should offer refunds for ANY print that they have sold in the last 12 months. They have been inept, disrespectful (just look how they package their prints) and most of all, deceptive - possibly even fraudulent. Thats how you REALLY gain trust. People should stop continuing to kiss their a*sses because of the very remote chance you might get a banksy for 1K. Will you by from POW again? of course - they have a monopoly on 2 artists that I care greatly about. Doesnt mean I have to be happy happy joy joy about their ineptitude and lack of integrity. |
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Yessir
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 4:05:21 GMT 1, Bobby I think that you are kind of tarring everyone at POW, with the same brush, with some of your statements ( no one truly knows what or what has not gone on behind the scenes). 
I have dealt with some of the staff at POW and I honestly don't have a bad word to say about how I was treated...
Bobby I think that you are kind of tarring everyone at POW, with the same brush, with some of your statements ( no one truly knows what or what has not gone on behind the scenes). I have dealt with some of the staff at POW and I honestly don't have a bad word to say about how I was treated... |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by ctc2 on Sept 26, 2007 4:35:09 GMT 1, As bad as they treat us we keep coming back for more. The only way they would change anything is if they were hit in the pocket. Does not look like that will happen as long as they have Banksy and AM. The fact is they really dont give a s$%t as long as the money is coming in. The reason I think this is because there are many people on this forum who have been suspicious of some of these prints for well over a year. I read the posts. If people on the forum raised questions, should not have POW? I really feel manipulated by them in that they have something I want and I cant seem to do without it.
Since the people who did this were their employees, I think they should own up and compensate anyone who was hit by this scam. Might not seem fair, but these people used the mechanics of POW to complete their scheme. It is POW's responsibility to either have safeguards in place to stop this or find out about it in a reasonable time. Whether they like it or not, the people who did this were POW and would have not been able to pull it off had they not been within the walls of POW.
As bad as they treat us we keep coming back for more. The only way they would change anything is if they were hit in the pocket. Does not look like that will happen as long as they have Banksy and AM. The fact is they really dont give a s$%t as long as the money is coming in. The reason I think this is because there are many people on this forum who have been suspicious of some of these prints for well over a year. I read the posts. If people on the forum raised questions, should not have POW? I really feel manipulated by them in that they have something I want and I cant seem to do without it.
Since the people who did this were their employees, I think they should own up and compensate anyone who was hit by this scam. Might not seem fair, but these people used the mechanics of POW to complete their scheme. It is POW's responsibility to either have safeguards in place to stop this or find out about it in a reasonable time. Whether they like it or not, the people who did this were POW and would have not been able to pull it off had they not been within the walls of POW.
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 4:45:09 GMT 1, I do not know any of them on any level except as a purchaser of their prints. What I do know is the following:
1. They have THE WORST art packaging I have ever encountered which leads partly to #2.
2. No adherence whatsoever of historical standards of authenticity and/or edition #s - "damaged print? oh no problem we'll just PRINT some more"
3. Widespread news reports of fraudulent behaviour from within and they brush it off - leaving us peasants wondering whats going on with our heroes...
Hey right now we don't know what went on but common sense and human nature says that it was more widespread than a few bad apples. Its always just a few bad apples isn't it? Its pretty powerful when you can literally PRINT money.
I do not know any of them on any level except as a purchaser of their prints. What I do know is the following:
1. They have THE WORST art packaging I have ever encountered which leads partly to #2.
2. No adherence whatsoever of historical standards of authenticity and/or edition #s - "damaged print? oh no problem we'll just PRINT some more"
3. Widespread news reports of fraudulent behaviour from within and they brush it off - leaving us peasants wondering whats going on with our heroes...
Hey right now we don't know what went on but common sense and human nature says that it was more widespread than a few bad apples. Its always just a few bad apples isn't it? Its pretty powerful when you can literally PRINT money.
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Yessir
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 5:01:14 GMT 1, I do not know any of them on any level except as a purchaser of their prints. What I do know is the following: 1. They have THE WORST art packaging I have ever encountered which leads partly to #2. 2. No adherence whatsoever of historical standards of authenticity and/or edition #s - "damaged print? oh no problem we'll just PRINT some more" 3. Widespread news reports of fraudulent behaviour from within and they brush it off - leaving us peasants wondering whats going on with our heroes... Hey right now we don't know what went on but common sense and human nature says that it was more widespread than a few bad apples. Its always just a few bad apples isn't it? Its pretty powerful when you can literally PRINT money.
I'm not too sure Bobby,
If POW was 100% geared towards extracting the maximum amount of revenue from us all, why sell Banksy/Micallef prints for well under "secondary market value", in the first place?.
We have all seen the astronomical values generated on Ebay, days after a Banksy/Micallef release, so surely we can assume POW are aware of this too.
I do not know any of them on any level except as a purchaser of their prints. What I do know is the following: 1. They have THE WORST art packaging I have ever encountered which leads partly to #2. 2. No adherence whatsoever of historical standards of authenticity and/or edition #s - "damaged print? oh no problem we'll just PRINT some more" 3. Widespread news reports of fraudulent behaviour from within and they brush it off - leaving us peasants wondering whats going on with our heroes... Hey right now we don't know what went on but common sense and human nature says that it was more widespread than a few bad apples. Its always just a few bad apples isn't it? Its pretty powerful when you can literally PRINT money. I'm not too sure Bobby, If POW was 100% geared towards extracting the maximum amount of revenue from us all, why sell Banksy/Micallef prints for well under "secondary market value", in the first place?. We have all seen the astronomical values generated on Ebay, days after a Banksy/Micallef release, so surely we can assume POW are aware of this too. |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 5:17:13 GMT 1, Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces
Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces
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Yessir
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 5:46:23 GMT 1, Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces
Point taken bobby... but let me pitch a curve ball to you.
Example
LAZ releases 50 edition Micallef prints for ยฃ4700 and sells out, now at that price you are not going to get many speculative purchasers ( backed up by the amount of these prints that have landed on Ebay).
The result is that LAZ makes a bigger profit out of buyers of these prints by hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release.
POW on the other hand release a signed Banksy Morons at ยฃ600 and at that price YOU ARE going to get MANY speculative purchasers ( backed up again by the flood of these prints on ebay).
The result, YES POW will make a profit, SO will the many many speculative purchasers, who benefit from POW not hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release, thus allowing them to muscle in on a "slice of the pie".
STRIKE 1, STRIKE 2 & STRIKE 3 ;D
Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces Point taken bobby... but let me pitch a curve ball to you. Example LAZ releases 50 edition Micallef prints for ยฃ4700 and sells out, now at that price you are not going to get many speculative purchasers ( backed up by the amount of these prints that have landed on Ebay). The result is that LAZ makes a bigger profit out of buyers of these prints by hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release. POW on the other hand release a signed Banksy Morons at ยฃ600 and at that price YOU ARE going to get MANY speculative purchasers ( backed up again by the flood of these prints on ebay). The result, YES POW will make a profit, SO will the many many speculative purchasers, who benefit from POW not hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release, thus allowing them to muscle in on a "slice of the pie". STRIKE 1, STRIKE 2 & STRIKE 3 ;D |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by BK83 on Sept 26, 2007 5:59:47 GMT 1, do we even want POW to make their customer service and/or service in general better at this point. They've had too many chances and they continue to fuck us all over. Fuck them! I'm taking my money to the smaller print houses.
do we even want POW to make their customer service and/or service in general better at this point. They've had too many chances and they continue to fuck us all over. Fuck them! I'm taking my money to the smaller print houses.
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What should POW do from this point on?, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 6:18:42 GMT 1, Anthony its pretty much business 101 - laz is simply covering the different demographics but with the same results = MAXIMUM PROFIT. The "laz" prints are geared for the wealthier more "exclusive" driven buyer. Higher margins on smaller runs. The POW ones are for the more "common" folk - but here he's working on volume. The volume makes up for the lower margins. You see, he can't maximize his profits if everything is of the high end. That would leave a huge demographic out. He's got everything covered. Hes might be a p*ick but he's a brilliant businessman...
Anthony its pretty much business 101 - laz is simply covering the different demographics but with the same results = MAXIMUM PROFIT. The "laz" prints are geared for the wealthier more "exclusive" driven buyer. Higher margins on smaller runs. The POW ones are for the more "common" folk - but here he's working on volume. The volume makes up for the lower margins. You see, he can't maximize his profits if everything is of the high end. That would leave a huge demographic out. He's got everything covered. Hes might be a p*ick but he's a brilliant businessman...
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Yessir
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Yessir on Sept 26, 2007 6:31:04 GMT 1, Thanks for the "grown man's", chat bobby...
My bed is calling me 
Thanks for the "grown man's", chat bobby... My bed is calling me |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by JD on Sept 26, 2007 8:30:47 GMT 1, Why the f**k would POW give a s**t what you think?
Because when all's said and done they need customers.Their mishandling of the LA prints has already lost them dedicated once a day browsers to Brp,SOS,ebay for Mics and Neates etc etc. Remember not so long ago any old toss on there would sell out just cause of the Banksy stable? Not any more.
Why the f**k would POW give a s**t what you think? Because when all's said and done they need customers.Their mishandling of the LA prints has already lost them dedicated once a day browsers to Brp,SOS,ebay for Mics and Neates etc etc. Remember not so long ago any old toss on there would sell out just cause of the Banksy stable? Not any more. |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by verbalkint on Sept 26, 2007 9:06:13 GMT 1, Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces Point taken bobby... but let me pitch a curve ball to you. Example LAZ releases 50 edition Micallef prints for ยฃ4700 and sells out, now at that price you are not going to get many speculative purchasers ( backed up by the amount of these prints that have landed on Ebay). The result is that LAZ makes a bigger profit out of buyers of these prints by hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release. POW on the other hand release a signed Banksy Morons at ยฃ600 and at that price YOU ARE going to get MANY speculative purchasers ( backed up again by the flood of these prints on ebay). The result, YES POW will make a profit, SO will the many many speculative purchasers, who benefit from POW not hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release, thus allowing them to muscle in on a "slice of the pie". STRIKE 1, STRIKE 2 & STRIKE 3 ;D
Im sorry anthony but you make a bad point if you assume laz and POW are different entities, steve laz owns one and has a big stake in the other.
Laz released the soupcan colourways through his shop at steep prices, if i remember right he did the banksy di-faced notes lithos through the shop too, despite what it says on LAZ's website about them not being connected to POW 'but we like them', that is the biggest load of bollocks ever.
And it does not take a huge leap of imagination to see steve pocketing 10 signed prints from every run for himself and making sure another 20 find their way through the back door to certain galleries for a nice fat cut.
Like someone says above, it is like working at the royal mint, if you take a tube home with you with 3 prints in it, you have made ยฃ15,000, now at the royal mint you get searched on your way out, i doubt the POW staff do. It would be so easy to put 5 signed returned damaged prints to one side, or send them to a friends house, or rig the releases so your friends get them etc etc
It is big money, of course it happens
Anthony - you have to understand the psychological aspect of a speculative bubble. They want the frenzy. They want you to buy without thinking/looking. To think they're doing us a favor and not maximizing profits is naive. The secondary market fuels everything from the cheaper prints all the way to the high end stuff ie. micallefs recent 240K usd pieces Point taken bobby... but let me pitch a curve ball to you. Example LAZ releases 50 edition Micallef prints for ยฃ4700 and sells out, now at that price you are not going to get many speculative purchasers ( backed up by the amount of these prints that have landed on Ebay). The result is that LAZ makes a bigger profit out of buyers of these prints by hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release. POW on the other hand release a signed Banksy Morons at ยฃ600 and at that price YOU ARE going to get MANY speculative purchasers ( backed up again by the flood of these prints on ebay). The result, YES POW will make a profit, SO will the many many speculative purchasers, who benefit from POW not hiking prices to "secondary market value", from the initial release, thus allowing them to muscle in on a "slice of the pie". STRIKE 1, STRIKE 2 & STRIKE 3 ;D Im sorry anthony but you make a bad point if you assume laz and POW are different entities, steve laz owns one and has a big stake in the other. Laz released the soupcan colourways through his shop at steep prices, if i remember right he did the banksy di-faced notes lithos through the shop too, despite what it says on LAZ's website about them not being connected to POW 'but we like them', that is the biggest load of bollocks ever. And it does not take a huge leap of imagination to see steve pocketing 10 signed prints from every run for himself and making sure another 20 find their way through the back door to certain galleries for a nice fat cut. Like someone says above, it is like working at the royal mint, if you take a tube home with you with 3 prints in it, you have made ยฃ15,000, now at the royal mint you get searched on your way out, i doubt the POW staff do. It would be so easy to put 5 signed returned damaged prints to one side, or send them to a friends house, or rig the releases so your friends get them etc etc It is big money, of course it happens |
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What should POW do from this point on?, by Coach on Sept 26, 2007 9:17:41 GMT 1, slightly off thread, i know, apologies in advance, but if you have bought a banksy on ebay, presumably the best thing to do now is contact pow by email and ask them to re-confirm that who you believe to be the orriginla owner, is indeed the orriginal owner?
slightly off thread, i know, apologies in advance, but if you have bought a banksy on ebay, presumably the best thing to do now is contact pow by email and ask them to re-confirm that who you believe to be the orriginla owner, is indeed the orriginal owner?
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doughy
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What should POW do from this point on?, by doughy on Sept 26, 2007 9:30:57 GMT 1, If you thnik there isn't a member of the LAZ & POW staff looking at this forum already, then you are sadly mistaken..
They know what is being said here, and yet still no sign of any message to alay fears, or a reassuring we know or are investigating as a post on the forum.
Seeing as a large part of their market comes to this forum, doesn't that say much about you guys and galls and how they feel about you and your concerns?
If you thnik there isn't a member of the LAZ & POW staff looking at this forum already, then you are sadly mistaken..
They know what is being said here, and yet still no sign of any message to alay fears, or a reassuring we know or are investigating as a post on the forum.
Seeing as a large part of their market comes to this forum, doesn't that say much about you guys and galls and how they feel about you and your concerns?
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What should POW do from this point on?, by johnas on Sept 26, 2007 9:42:14 GMT 1, surely first and foremost, POW should at least comment on the situation and communicate what actions they are taking to investigate these allegations (have people been suspended? has an independent auditer been brought in? how long will this all take?). They need to prove that they are taking this extremely seriously and understand from the customer point of view the impact on their reputation this could have.
Once investigated, they should again communicate their findings - a full and proper statement. From there, they need to explain EXACTLY how this is not going to happen again and what safeguards have been put in place. They need to gain our confidence.
I guess the main thing in the first instance is communication. Something that POW are awful at. For me at least, informing us of what is going on would be a step in the right direction and, although very uncharacteristic for POW, this would show me that they take the allegations seriously enough to take the unprecedented step of talking to customers! A small blurb in the FAQ's is just useless words imo.
bottom line is they need to gain customer trust and the best way of doing that is through communication and being transparent.
surely first and foremost, POW should at least comment on the situation and communicate what actions they are taking to investigate these allegations (have people been suspended? has an independent auditer been brought in? how long will this all take?). They need to prove that they are taking this extremely seriously and understand from the customer point of view the impact on their reputation this could have.
Once investigated, they should again communicate their findings - a full and proper statement. From there, they need to explain EXACTLY how this is not going to happen again and what safeguards have been put in place. They need to gain our confidence.
I guess the main thing in the first instance is communication. Something that POW are awful at. For me at least, informing us of what is going on would be a step in the right direction and, although very uncharacteristic for POW, this would show me that they take the allegations seriously enough to take the unprecedented step of talking to customers! A small blurb in the FAQ's is just useless words imo.
bottom line is they need to gain customer trust and the best way of doing that is through communication and being transparent.
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nombei
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What should POW do from this point on?, by nombei on Sept 26, 2007 9:58:25 GMT 1, well, if POW is really looking into this and planning to take legal action, then they might not be able to make any sort of statement at this time other than what was said in the article.
still, i agree that some sort of post on this forum would make me think somewhat better of them. though at this point i really don't plan to give POW anymore of my money. the recent events have just shown that they have lost the plot.
so i suppose that should mean one extra "Trolley Hunters" for the flippers (inside POW or otherwise).
well, if POW is really looking into this and planning to take legal action, then they might not be able to make any sort of statement at this time other than what was said in the article.
still, i agree that some sort of post on this forum would make me think somewhat better of them. though at this point i really don't plan to give POW anymore of my money. the recent events have just shown that they have lost the plot.
so i suppose that should mean one extra "Trolley Hunters" for the flippers (inside POW or otherwise).
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, but the[glow=red,2,300] reward [/glow]of owning a Banksy or Micallef to most, I assume by far outweighs the [glow=red,2,300]risk[/glow]. 
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