elwheel
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Paypal dispute question??, by elwheel on Jul 25, 2011 18:04:37 GMT 1, Folks,
Quick question. Bought something on here recently (31 days ago). Seller discovered they did not actually have what they said they had and after some really poor comms said they would refund by paypal by today. That has not happened. I gifted by paypal - do I just open a dispute or does that not work because I gifted it???
Thanks
Folks,
Quick question. Bought something on here recently (31 days ago). Seller discovered they did not actually have what they said they had and after some really poor comms said they would refund by paypal by today. That has not happened. I gifted by paypal - do I just open a dispute or does that not work because I gifted it???
Thanks
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Paypal dispute question??, by xmyart on Jul 25, 2011 18:07:00 GMT 1, Not sure but try it. you might want to be quick too, not sure on the timeline for that, may even be 30 days.
Not sure but try it. you might want to be quick too, not sure on the timeline for that, may even be 30 days.
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Paypal dispute question??, by rottenredrooster on Jul 25, 2011 18:11:01 GMT 1, As far as I'm aware you can open a dispute after 90 days. Although not sure about gift.
Did you pay by card or paypal balance?
As far as I'm aware you can open a dispute after 90 days. Although not sure about gift.
Did you pay by card or paypal balance?
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Damien
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Paypal dispute question??, by Damien on Jul 25, 2011 18:12:59 GMT 1, Dont think you can get the money unless they agree to it, i got ripped off on ebay once after 33days
Dont think you can get the money unless they agree to it, i got ripped off on ebay once after 33days
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Paypal dispute question??, by xmyart on Jul 25, 2011 18:13:59 GMT 1, I think, but could be wrong, thats the 90 days is through ebay only red. Not 100% though
I think, but could be wrong, thats the 90 days is through ebay only red. Not 100% though
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Richard
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Paypal dispute question??, by Richard on Jul 25, 2011 18:16:10 GMT 1, It's 45 days - after that nothing can be done.
I don't think you can do anything with Gift payments though...
It's 45 days - after that nothing can be done.
I don't think you can do anything with Gift payments though...
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Warm Gun
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Paypal dispute question??, by Warm Gun on Jul 25, 2011 18:18:34 GMT 1, I don't think you're protected when sending a paypal gift, it's pretty much at your own risk.
I don't think you're protected when sending a paypal gift, it's pretty much at your own risk.
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craigf
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Paypal dispute question??, by craigf on Jul 25, 2011 18:21:31 GMT 1, nope, a gift payment is meant to be exactly that as it is fee free. If there is an associated service or item to be received its no longer a gift....
nope, a gift payment is meant to be exactly that as it is fee free. If there is an associated service or item to be received its no longer a gift....
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crooked
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Paypal dispute question??, by crooked on Jul 25, 2011 18:22:40 GMT 1, the only thing you can do is go thru your bank and do a funds retrieval, it happened to me a long time ago, just explain to them and your bank will work with you
the only thing you can do is go thru your bank and do a funds retrieval, it happened to me a long time ago, just explain to them and your bank will work with you
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Paypal dispute question??, by xmyart on Jul 25, 2011 18:23:46 GMT 1, That doesnt look good. Hope it gets sorted dude. I wondered about That before as well. I use payment owed, but not sure if that makes any difference either.
That doesnt look good. Hope it gets sorted dude. I wondered about That before as well. I use payment owed, but not sure if that makes any difference either.
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elwheel
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Paypal dispute question??, by elwheel on Jul 25, 2011 18:29:02 GMT 1, Thanks folks,
Looks like I'm screwed unless the 'seller' does the right thing off their own bat. I gifted it through paypal balance, not card. Only 77 quid but its just annoying. Think I'll stop gifting from now on and just add/deduct the fees to/from the price of transactions. @ crooked - haven't heard about that kind of thing - not sure its a UK banking practice
Thanks folks,
Looks like I'm screwed unless the 'seller' does the right thing off their own bat. I gifted it through paypal balance, not card. Only 77 quid but its just annoying. Think I'll stop gifting from now on and just add/deduct the fees to/from the price of transactions. @ crooked - haven't heard about that kind of thing - not sure its a UK banking practice
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Warm Gun
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Paypal dispute question??, by Warm Gun on Jul 25, 2011 18:33:22 GMT 1, Funds retrieval have been brought up on here before, it's not something us Brits get (like you say)
Why don't you name and shame them elwheel?
Funds retrieval have been brought up on here before, it's not something us Brits get (like you say)
Why don't you name and shame them elwheel?
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Paypal dispute question??, by Goooogle Male on Jul 25, 2011 18:34:28 GMT 1, i think there's a way of getting the seller's name and contact details thru paypal - was it on the original details. that, Alternatively if you have their email address google around - see if you can find them on facebook / linked in(just put in their email address) etc. if you find them / their address etc they are much more likely to refund than if you are just someone sending them paypal messages.
i think there's a way of getting the seller's name and contact details thru paypal - was it on the original details. that, Alternatively if you have their email address google around - see if you can find them on facebook / linked in(just put in their email address) etc. if you find them / their address etc they are much more likely to refund than if you are just someone sending them paypal messages.
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gironawatch
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Paypal dispute question??, by gironawatch on Jul 25, 2011 18:34:39 GMT 1, If you have pay paypal gift is like a bank transfer, you can lost the money! Paypal don't take responsibility of it.
You have to ask the seller for the money back.
If you have pay paypal gift is like a bank transfer, you can lost the money! Paypal don't take responsibility of it.
You have to ask the seller for the money back.
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Damien
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Paypal dispute question??, by Damien on Jul 25, 2011 18:35:08 GMT 1, Wont they just do the right thing and pay you back?
Wont they just do the right thing and pay you back?
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elwheel
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Paypal dispute question??, by elwheel on Jul 25, 2011 18:35:44 GMT 1, Warm Gun- If they're still radio silent during the next 48 hours, I will. Thanks for the info folks.
Warm Gun- If they're still radio silent during the next 48 hours, I will. Thanks for the info folks.
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crooked
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Paypal dispute question??, by crooked on Jul 25, 2011 18:36:26 GMT 1, what happened to you happened to me a while back, so i know how it can be. but my seller never intended on sending anything, its basically banks have more power than paypal and they can pull your money from them if theres a problem. so maybe it is just the US bank policy but never hurts to ask. good luck
what happened to you happened to me a while back, so i know how it can be. but my seller never intended on sending anything, its basically banks have more power than paypal and they can pull your money from them if theres a problem. so maybe it is just the US bank policy but never hurts to ask. good luck
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Warm Gun
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Paypal dispute question??, by Warm Gun on Jul 25, 2011 18:36:37 GMT 1, good luck dude, hope you resolve it.
good luck dude, hope you resolve it.
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Sacked...
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Paypal dispute question??, by Sacked... on Jul 25, 2011 18:43:58 GMT 1, Siorry to hear this.its a shame elwheel,this sort of thing gives the forum a bad name and erodes trust,if they dont come up with the money or goods within your alloted time,,name & shame.
Siorry to hear this.its a shame elwheel,this sort of thing gives the forum a bad name and erodes trust,if they dont come up with the money or goods within your alloted time,,name & shame.
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Paypal dispute question??, by rottenredrooster on Jul 25, 2011 19:06:26 GMT 1, Thanks folks, Looks like I'm screwed unless the 'seller' does the right thing off their own bat. I gifted it through paypal balance, not card. Only 77 quid but its just annoying. Think I'll stop gifting from now on and just add/deduct the fees to/from the price of transactions. @ crooked - haven't heard about that kind of thing - not sure its a UK banking practice
Don't think there is much you can do (if anything) if it's come out of your balance. Hopefully after seeing this thread the seller will do the right thing.
Thanks folks, Looks like I'm screwed unless the 'seller' does the right thing off their own bat. I gifted it through paypal balance, not card. Only 77 quid but its just annoying. Think I'll stop gifting from now on and just add/deduct the fees to/from the price of transactions. @ crooked - haven't heard about that kind of thing - not sure its a UK banking practice Don't think there is much you can do (if anything) if it's come out of your balance. Hopefully after seeing this thread the seller will do the right thing. |
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lifeonwalls
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Paypal dispute question??, by lifeonwalls on Jul 25, 2011 21:27:31 GMT 1, Unless it's someone I know, I am ALWAYS suspicious of anyone who requests/demands that payment is made via gift.
Paypal is a benefit to both the buyer AND seller - split the fees is my motto.
Hope you get sorted OP, and will await the name & shame if not.
Unless it's someone I know, I am ALWAYS suspicious of anyone who requests/demands that payment is made via gift.
Paypal is a benefit to both the buyer AND seller - split the fees is my motto.
Hope you get sorted OP, and will await the name & shame if not.
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Paypal dispute question??, by mojjac on Jul 25, 2011 23:09:00 GMT 1, That sucks but thanks to your thread I am now educated as to Paypal gifting and its pros and cons. I simply will cease to use Paypal. Cheers and good luck on resolving your issue.
That sucks but thanks to your thread I am now educated as to Paypal gifting and its pros and cons. I simply will cease to use Paypal. Cheers and good luck on resolving your issue.
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Rolex
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Paypal dispute question??, by Rolex on Jul 26, 2011 0:26:53 GMT 1, I can't believe this guy would do this to you for £77, surely his feedback alone on this forum is worth more than that to him. He might be on holiday hence no reply, you do get 45 days for paypal but like others have said when gifting money the buyer has no comeback, paypal is a great system very easy & convenient , what I do is use a registered credit card with them if any thing goes wrong I'm covered by them & card company, then pay the card off when all is wright.
I can't believe this guy would do this to you for £77, surely his feedback alone on this forum is worth more than that to him. He might be on holiday hence no reply, you do get 45 days for paypal but like others have said when gifting money the buyer has no comeback, paypal is a great system very easy & convenient , what I do is use a registered credit card with them if any thing goes wrong I'm covered by them & card company, then pay the card off when all is wright.
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gibbin82
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Paypal dispute question??, by gibbin82 on Jul 26, 2011 7:36:20 GMT 1, As said above he may be on holiday or there could be some other genuine reason why he can not contact you (some sort of PC problem, illness or family crisis). If he is a forum member rather than exposing him at this stage (if he is dishonest he can just close his forum account and reopen it under another name) I suggest you search through his post to see if he has bought from somebody else on the forum and maybe a polite request to the seller, explaining that you are having difficulty contacting him, you might be able to get his address.
As said above he may be on holiday or there could be some other genuine reason why he can not contact you (some sort of PC problem, illness or family crisis). If he is a forum member rather than exposing him at this stage (if he is dishonest he can just close his forum account and reopen it under another name) I suggest you search through his post to see if he has bought from somebody else on the forum and maybe a polite request to the seller, explaining that you are having difficulty contacting him, you might be able to get his address.
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saint
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Paypal dispute question??, by saint on Jul 26, 2011 9:31:10 GMT 1, name and shame them mate, lets have a good ole' fashioned witch hunt.
name and shame them mate, lets have a good ole' fashioned witch hunt.
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Paypal dispute question??, by xmyart on Jul 26, 2011 9:50:04 GMT 1, Lol can we dunk him? i hear its a great way to prove innocence. And it seems the innocent never make a big thing about it.
Lol can we dunk him? i hear its a great way to prove innocence. And it seems the innocent never make a big thing about it.
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balibob
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Paypal dispute question??, by balibob on Jul 26, 2011 10:37:25 GMT 1, Definately name and shame otherwise the gits just get away with it.
Definately name and shame otherwise the gits just get away with it.
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stickitup
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Paypal dispute question??, by stickitup on Jul 26, 2011 11:02:09 GMT 1, plus it alerts others to the fact that the c*nt is trying to stitch people up. Silky might also take note of the IP address in case they close the account and open as another user after being named and shamed?
plus it alerts others to the fact that the c*nt is trying to stitch people up. Silky might also take note of the IP address in case they close the account and open as another user after being named and shamed?
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saint
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Paypal dispute question??, by saint on Jul 26, 2011 11:04:26 GMT 1, it wasn't deann again was it?
it wasn't deann again was it?
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