Shoot Again
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Shoot Again on Mar 9, 2012 13:19:40 GMT 1, On 10th September 2011, Dreweatts auctioned a painting by UK painter Charming Baker. In both our printed and digital catalogue for the Urban Contemporary Auction we inadvertently and wrongly described Charming Baker as a graffiti artist.
We would like to correct this statement and make it clear that Mr Baker is not a graffiti artist. Rather, he is a fine artist who studied at Central St Martins College of Art in London. We recognise that graffiti is illegal, that Mr Baker has never participated in any such activity and that the insinuation that he has could cause serious damage to Mr Baker's reputation as a fine artist.
Dreweatts, therefore, unreservedly apologises to Mr Baker for the incorrect statements made in the catalogues mentioned above and for any damage caused to Mr Baker and his reputation as a fine artist.
Stephan Ludwig
Executive Chairman, The Fine Art Auction Group Ltd
(Trading as Dreweatts & Bloomsbury Auctions)
On 10th September 2011, Dreweatts auctioned a painting by UK painter Charming Baker. In both our printed and digital catalogue for the Urban Contemporary Auction we inadvertently and wrongly described Charming Baker as a graffiti artist.
We would like to correct this statement and make it clear that Mr Baker is not a graffiti artist. Rather, he is a fine artist who studied at Central St Martins College of Art in London. We recognise that graffiti is illegal, that Mr Baker has never participated in any such activity and that the insinuation that he has could cause serious damage to Mr Baker's reputation as a fine artist.
Dreweatts, therefore, unreservedly apologises to Mr Baker for the incorrect statements made in the catalogues mentioned above and for any damage caused to Mr Baker and his reputation as a fine artist.
Stephan Ludwig
Executive Chairman, The Fine Art Auction Group Ltd
(Trading as Dreweatts & Bloomsbury Auctions)
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Shoot Again
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Shoot Again on Mar 9, 2012 13:20:53 GMT 1, Never bought anything from CB (my wife hates it) but not gonna ever chase any of his work after that ;-)
Never bought anything from CB (my wife hates it) but not gonna ever chase any of his work after that ;-)
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connecta1
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by connecta1 on Mar 9, 2012 13:28:08 GMT 1, ...just saw this, hilarious
...just saw this, hilarious
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Simococo
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Simococo on Mar 9, 2012 13:35:51 GMT 1, brilliant
brilliant
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by They call me Stephen on Mar 9, 2012 13:38:51 GMT 1, haha - superb
haha - superb
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plush
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November 2011
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by plush on Mar 9, 2012 14:24:58 GMT 1, What, he's not like Banksy, then I'm not buying him 
What, he's not like Banksy, then I'm not buying him |
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johnnyh
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March 2011
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by johnnyh on Mar 9, 2012 14:30:31 GMT 1, Quite weird it is so long after though. May be more to this??
Quite weird it is so long after though. May be more to this??
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Argiebaji
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Argiebaji on Mar 10, 2012 11:40:21 GMT 1, Dreweatts seem to have a fantastic knack of getting it very wrong. I guess that's what happens when you dabble in things you don't really understand.
LOL!!
Dreweatts seem to have a fantastic knack of getting it very wrong. I guess that's what happens when you dabble in things you don't really understand. LOL!! |
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Warm Gun
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Warm Gun on Mar 10, 2012 15:53:13 GMT 1, Looks like CB no longer wants to sully his good name with the dirty graffiti/urban scene, the urchins that we are. I didn't hear his complaints when he was being bigged up on this forum before Hirst bought all his work for pretend prices.
Looks like CB no longer wants to sully his good name with the dirty graffiti/urban scene, the urchins that we are. I didn't hear his complaints when he was being bigged up on this forum before Hirst bought all his work for pretend prices.
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Brushstrokes 75 on Mar 10, 2012 17:59:23 GMT 1, It draws the question what is really a street artist : Is it someone in a pure sense who paints (or started painted in the streets)? Is it someone affiliated to others from the 1st Category? Is it someone whose collector base collects works from artists of the 1st category?
Charming Baker used the scene to get famous but he isn't really anything street (at least as far as I know). It seems like he doesn't need his street followers anymore
It draws the question what is really a street artist : Is it someone in a pure sense who paints (or started painted in the streets)? Is it someone affiliated to others from the 1st Category? Is it someone whose collector base collects works from artists of the 1st category?
Charming Baker used the scene to get famous but he isn't really anything street (at least as far as I know). It seems like he doesn't need his street followers anymore
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by fingerz on Mar 10, 2012 19:46:42 GMT 1, thats it then , i'm not talking to him any more .... 
thats it then , i'm not talking to him any more .... |
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Mar 10, 2012 23:09:04 GMT 1, I thought he was a bricklayer???
I thought he was a bricklayer???
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Deux Spin
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March 2011
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Deux Spin on Mar 10, 2012 23:37:45 GMT 1, Hilarious, Dreweatts send that out to people interested in their "Urban Contemporary Art" auctions. They're making a fool out of him.
Hilarious, Dreweatts send that out to people interested in their "Urban Contemporary Art" auctions. They're making a fool out of him.
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hunter
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September 2007
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by hunter on Mar 11, 2012 21:59:45 GMT 1, He might not be a street artist but he has done work on the street.
He might not be a street artist but he has done work on the street.
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sakyamuni
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July 2009
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by sakyamuni on Mar 13, 2012 17:36:33 GMT 1, He is a talented artist, and that won't change my opinion about him and more important about his work. I have exchanged a few emails with him a few years back and he always appeared to me as a nice guy. I am quite curious to know how this story started...
He is a talented artist, and that won't change my opinion about him and more important about his work. I have exchanged a few emails with him a few years back and he always appeared to me as a nice guy. I am quite curious to know how this story started...
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Shoot Again
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Shoot Again on Mar 13, 2012 19:03:29 GMT 1, Would be interesting to see if he would still answer your mails nowdays ;-)
Would be interesting to see if he would still answer your mails nowdays ;-)
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sakyamuni
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by sakyamuni on Mar 13, 2012 19:13:42 GMT 1, Would be interesting to see if he would still answer your mails nowdays ;-)
i guess not
Would be interesting to see if he would still answer your mails nowdays ;-) i guess not |
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fthompson
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September 2010
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by fthompson on Mar 13, 2012 19:53:21 GMT 1, I think they fucked up calling him an artist not the grafitit part.
I think they fucked up calling him an artist not the grafitit part.
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Damien
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July 2008
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Damien on Mar 14, 2012 10:47:10 GMT 1, He's represented by same guy as d*FACE
He's represented by same guy as d*FACE
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balibob
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November 2010
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by balibob on Mar 14, 2012 10:51:42 GMT 1, Not so 'charming' after all then, perhaps he should rename to Dontyouknowwhoiam Baker
Not so 'charming' after all then, perhaps he should rename to Dontyouknowwhoiam Baker
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dotdot
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by dotdot on Mar 14, 2012 11:19:01 GMT 1, I thought a guy called tim was his manager?
correct
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I thought a guy called tim was his manager? correct .. |
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Johnnyroyale
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October 2008
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Johnnyroyale on Mar 19, 2012 18:12:55 GMT 1, This is hilarious and embarrassing (for CB) all at the same time- Can't argue that he's been very well managed using the same methods as the urban art scene to get recognised. IMO this doesn't in anyway detract from the quality of his work and subject matter, and the quality of jealous prints are second to none.
On the other hand maybe there's truth in comments posted here that his prices have peaked. If so the "apology" may well have been instigated by CBs management as a result of the low secondary market price realised by Dreweatts (35k) . His pieces at everything must go were priced circa 70k so a low secondary market price wouldnt go down well with CBs management?
Saying that apparently all his new works for the 2012 nyc show have all been sold- maybe someone has seen the Dreweatts auction results and have asked for a refund/discount
Nice bloke all the same -if his art career bombs i'd recommend him to do an extension - word of mouth is everything not just in art circles
This is hilarious and embarrassing (for CB) all at the same time- Can't argue that he's been very well managed using the same methods as the urban art scene to get recognised. IMO this doesn't in anyway detract from the quality of his work and subject matter, and the quality of jealous prints are second to none. On the other hand maybe there's truth in comments posted here that his prices have peaked. If so the "apology" may well have been instigated by CBs management as a result of the low secondary market price realised by Dreweatts (35k) . His pieces at everything must go were priced circa 70k so a low secondary market price wouldnt go down well with CBs management? Saying that apparently all his new works for the 2012 nyc show have all been sold- maybe someone has seen the Dreweatts auction results and have asked for a refund/discount Nice bloke all the same -if his art career bombs i'd recommend him to do an extension - word of mouth is everything not just in art circles |
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iamzero
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by iamzero on Mar 19, 2012 19:39:26 GMT 1, What a joke. I'm sure this apology was all instigated by Bakers rock and roll promoter Magnarella. And I'm sure Magnarella is also behind engineering Bakers high auction results. I used to like Bakers work ok, but this guy is not next level. He will never be important. And this fiasco of hiring a rock superstar to jumpstart your career is going to crash and burn just like most rock superstars careers crash and burn. I'd be extremely wary of buying this guys work at this point.
This guy is rubbish and I hope his art tumbles dramatically in price... I will glad relieve anyone out there of their Panda Boy prints or Gorilla/ Intelligence.... piece or Shot In The Arse for that matter for a knock down price so you no longer have to look at this shoddy work.
I am selfless in my duty to help you people. I thank you and good day.
What a joke. I'm sure this apology was all instigated by Bakers rock and roll promoter Magnarella. And I'm sure Magnarella is also behind engineering Bakers high auction results. I used to like Bakers work ok, but this guy is not next level. He will never be important. And this fiasco of hiring a rock superstar to jumpstart your career is going to crash and burn just like most rock superstars careers crash and burn. I'd be extremely wary of buying this guys work at this point. This guy is rubbish and I hope his art tumbles dramatically in price... I will glad relieve anyone out there of their Panda Boy prints or Gorilla/ Intelligence.... piece or Shot In The Arse for that matter for a knock down price so you no longer have to look at this shoddy work. I am selfless in my duty to help you people. I thank you and good day. |
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curiousgeorge
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by mojjac on Mar 22, 2012 11:49:28 GMT 1, What sort of Mother names her son Charming? Are his parents pop stars?
What sort of Mother names her son Charming? Are his parents pop stars?
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Damien
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July 2008
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Damien on Mar 22, 2012 11:58:59 GMT 1, his names alan
his names alan
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by mojjac on Mar 22, 2012 12:10:15 GMT 1,
Why not cal himself just Alan Baker then? Charming Baker sounds like something a Graffiti artist would call themselves!
Why not cal himself just Alan Baker then? Charming Baker sounds like something a Graffiti artist would call themselves! |
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Damien
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by Damien on Mar 22, 2012 12:13:50 GMT 1, probably makes him stand out compared to Alan Baker
probably makes him stand out compared to Alan Baker
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sneakerfreak
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by sneakerfreak on Mar 22, 2012 13:49:02 GMT 1, If you look at his signature its defo 'Baker A' - I understand the 'Charming' moniker came from a nickname he got when he was working on building sites. Having met the bloke at his London show last year I can attest -really nice guy and easy to talk to. I think this whole 'apology' thing is probably (and sadly) more about being in the media machine his art has been sucked into, rather than a reflection on the guy himself. Agreed - there has been a stratospheric rise in his prices & maybe things need to settle for him.
If you look at his signature its defo 'Baker A' - I understand the 'Charming' moniker came from a nickname he got when he was working on building sites. Having met the bloke at his London show last year I can attest -really nice guy and easy to talk to. I think this whole 'apology' thing is probably (and sadly) more about being in the media machine his art has been sucked into, rather than a reflection on the guy himself. Agreed - there has been a stratospheric rise in his prices & maybe things need to settle for him.
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ilmambo
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Apology to Charming Baker !!!, by ilmambo on Mar 22, 2012 13:56:45 GMT 1, Q: What makes a great artist?
CB: A great agent
Q: What makes a great artist?
CB: A great agent
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