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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Jul 6, 2012 19:38:21 GMT 1, 
Just picked this up. The top and bottom are wavy and the bottom corners are touching the glass as they are curving up. He said that floating on foamcore wouldn't make a difference and that it shows character but I hate it. The signature is so close to the bottom that mounting isn't a likely option.
Any thoughts on what to do here?
thx.
Just picked this up. The top and bottom are wavy and the bottom corners are touching the glass as they are curving up. He said that floating on foamcore wouldn't make a difference and that it shows character but I hate it. The signature is so close to the bottom that mounting isn't a likely option. Any thoughts on what to do here? thx. |
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Dr Plip
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Dr Plip on Jul 6, 2012 20:46:53 GMT 1, Shows character? I've never heard that one before. Have you used this framer before? If you've got a good relationship with them and have spent money with them in the past, tell them you're not happy with the finish.
Did they explain their mounting process to you before you went ahead with it?
Shows character? I've never heard that one before. Have you used this framer before? If you've got a good relationship with them and have spent money with them in the past, tell them you're not happy with the finish.
Did they explain their mounting process to you before you went ahead with it?
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 20:50:42 GMT 1, haha showed character? from him to give it to you that way maybe. What a dork. I'd go back and say you are not satisfied. In the end it's a transaction like any other and when you as a customer are not satisfied with what the seller delivers, it's your right to get something better.
never realized this print is so pink? or is that my screen?
haha showed character? from him to give it to you that way maybe. What a dork. I'd go back and say you are not satisfied. In the end it's a transaction like any other and when you as a customer are not satisfied with what the seller delivers, it's your right to get something better.
never realized this print is so pink? or is that my screen?
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chaserawr
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by chaserawr on Jul 6, 2012 20:52:35 GMT 1, Seems like the frame isn't deep enough for the float.
Seems like the frame isn't deep enough for the float.
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Deleted on Jul 6, 2012 20:55:35 GMT 1, Your not having much luck at the moment are you itindale 
Your not having much luck at the moment are you itindale |
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Jul 6, 2012 21:08:29 GMT 1, Your not having much luck at the moment are you itindale
hahaha, seemingly not! Everything seems to be shit, except my wife that is 
Heading back tomorrow and accessing options. Agree that it isn't deep enough, not sure why they didn't say anything about that. Been in a new city for about 3 weeks and have brought in 5 pieces.
They said that they could put some weight on it but it will still have waves. He said that a matte would eliminate it but would cover signature/edition.
Your not having much luck at the moment are you itindale hahaha, seemingly not! Everything seems to be shit, except my wife that is Heading back tomorrow and accessing options. Agree that it isn't deep enough, not sure why they didn't say anything about that. Been in a new city for about 3 weeks and have brought in 5 pieces. They said that they could put some weight on it but it will still have waves. He said that a matte would eliminate it but would cover signature/edition. |
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chaserawr
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by chaserawr on Jul 6, 2012 21:11:30 GMT 1, Alot of my floated prints have a slight wave to them, or curved ends. I'd keep everything the way it is and ditch that molding and get something deeper with spacers.
Alot of my floated prints have a slight wave to them, or curved ends. I'd keep everything the way it is and ditch that molding and get something deeper with spacers.
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iamzero
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by iamzero on Jul 6, 2012 22:15:58 GMT 1, I would imagine most float mounted pieces have at least a small amount of wave as the paper moves. The methods ive used recommend attaching tape at around 50mm intervals but it looks like yours is nowhere near that and I'd say maybe deeper mount. But I'd also agree that I don't actually mind the slight pucker when floated but would still say perhaps yours need a little more hinges
I would imagine most float mounted pieces have at least a small amount of wave as the paper moves. The methods ive used recommend attaching tape at around 50mm intervals but it looks like yours is nowhere near that and I'd say maybe deeper mount. But I'd also agree that I don't actually mind the slight pucker when floated but would still say perhaps yours need a little more hinges
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Jul 6, 2012 22:17:26 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice all and for the pm's, I appreciate the help! Will your suggestions in tomorrow
Thanks for the advice all and for the pm's, I appreciate the help! Will your suggestions in tomorrow
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Jul 6, 2012 22:17:54 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice all and for the pm's, I appreciate the help! Will take your suggestions in tomorrow
Thanks for the advice all and for the pm's, I appreciate the help! Will take your suggestions in tomorrow |
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by iamzero on Jul 6, 2012 22:34:47 GMT 1, Art will move with the change in temperature and humidity and will show more with float mounting because of it having more hinges attaching it to the mount/ Matt board. A piece this size when window mounted would usually have two t hinges at the top of the art work keeping it from dropping and the window mount helps with the rest, holding the work flat and away from the glass whilst allowing a small amount of movement.
Art will move with the change in temperature and humidity and will show more with float mounting because of it having more hinges attaching it to the mount/ Matt board. A piece this size when window mounted would usually have two t hinges at the top of the art work keeping it from dropping and the window mount helps with the rest, holding the work flat and away from the glass whilst allowing a small amount of movement.
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by Andy'77 on Jul 19, 2012 10:27:44 GMT 1, When I first got a piece float mounted, I didn't like it at all. I didn't like the waves on the print, so went back to my framer and got a window mount placed on it. I've since changed my opinion partially due to looking at work on paper framed at the Tate in St. Ives and always seeing this wave. Everything I have is now float mounted and there's always a slight wave. I believe the paper shouldn't be entirely flat as it gives the paper no room to move however, the print shouldn't be touching the glass.
When I first got a piece float mounted, I didn't like it at all. I didn't like the waves on the print, so went back to my framer and got a window mount placed on it. I've since changed my opinion partially due to looking at work on paper framed at the Tate in St. Ives and always seeing this wave. Everything I have is now float mounted and there's always a slight wave. I believe the paper shouldn't be entirely flat as it gives the paper no room to move however, the print shouldn't be touching the glass.
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ilmambo
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by ilmambo on Jul 19, 2012 21:29:48 GMT 1, "3D effect" and a bit of waving, as said by other before, is pretty much normal on float mounted prints.
if the print is on thick paper you should wait till it's completely flattened so the borders/corners won't curve up, anyways that frame doesn't look suitable for float mounting, at least not without a spacer and I can't see one!
I would ask the framer to remove the print from the frame, let it flatten some more (did he frame it straight out of the tube?) and tell him to use a frame deep enough, with a spacer and at least 1 cm between the glass and the print.
I hope he used some archival stuff to float mount the print...
"3D effect" and a bit of waving, as said by other before, is pretty much normal on float mounted prints.
if the print is on thick paper you should wait till it's completely flattened so the borders/corners won't curve up, anyways that frame doesn't look suitable for float mounting, at least not without a spacer and I can't see one!
I would ask the framer to remove the print from the frame, let it flatten some more (did he frame it straight out of the tube?) and tell him to use a frame deep enough, with a spacer and at least 1 cm between the glass and the print.
I hope he used some archival stuff to float mount the print...
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ESPO - Crappy Framing advice, by therivler1 on Jul 20, 2012 0:04:27 GMT 1, floating + no spacers = bad framer. they should know better. do not go back there after they fix this.
floating + no spacers = bad framer. they should know better. do not go back there after they fix this.
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