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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 1, 2024 16:21:11 GMT 1, If these are on the same paper as the UPs it is cheap poster paper. Would make sense to frame them.
If these are on the same paper as the UPs it is cheap poster paper. Would make sense to frame them.
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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 1, 2024 13:57:20 GMT 1, On paper....
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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 1, 2024 13:34:32 GMT 1, 100 + 20 AP - gonna be really expansive and for sorted customers I guess I think these are gonna be reasonably cheap to create some buzz and excitement.
100 + 20 AP - gonna be really expansive and for sorted customers I guess I think these are gonna be reasonably cheap to create some buzz and excitement.
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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 1, 2024 13:31:04 GMT 1, I'm surprised nobody tried to flip these yet.
I'm surprised nobody tried to flip these yet.
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The Collection of Sir Elton John: Opening Night, by Pawel on Feb 26, 2024 13:52:22 GMT 1, (In terms of value of the work. They may never sell it!)
(In terms of value of the work. They may never sell it!)
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by Pawel on Feb 25, 2024 19:28:37 GMT 1, Also Linus Borgo:
Also Linus Borgo:
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by Pawel on Feb 25, 2024 19:27:24 GMT 1, Couldn't attend Sainer's finissage at the National Museum in Gdaลsk, got this back from the framer:
Couldn't attend Sainer's finissage at the National Museum in Gdaลsk, got this back from the framer:
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Genieve Figgis - Picnic, by Pawel on Feb 24, 2024 0:06:53 GMT 1, Yeah I think Giclees are really lazy TBH Im ok with giclees, but I'm not sure if her style is suitable for prints.
Yeah I think Giclees are really lazy TBH Im ok with giclees, but I'm not sure if her style is suitable for prints.
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Ai Weiwei Artist's Hand Sculpture, by Pawel on Feb 22, 2024 9:43:04 GMT 1, Damn, that is one serious price drop. Good luck: this is one of the Ai Weiweis that will surely stand the test of time! These were always circa โฌ5k here so itโs not tooo bad. Agreed, a classic Ai Weiwei. He killed i5 with all the glass versions.
Damn, that is one serious price drop. Good luck: this is one of the Ai Weiweis that will surely stand the test of time! These were always circa โฌ5k here so itโs not tooo bad. Agreed, a classic Ai Weiwei. He killed i5 with all the glass versions.
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Possibilities with my Banksy's, by Pawel on Feb 21, 2024 1:31:56 GMT 1, I would sell everything else other that Banksy.
I would sell everything else other that Banksy.
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Invader Alert 2020 Print, by Pawel on Feb 17, 2024 18:06:17 GMT 1,
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 15, 2024 16:34:12 GMT 1, Isn't it just a gag like Dappy's pdf? No. It's real. They actually ask to speak with you, to get on their "good list". Could you name all Picasso's periods and put them in chronological order? Additional points for stating the years.
Isn't it just a gag like Dappy's pdf? No. It's real. They actually ask to speak with you, to get on their "good list". Could you name all Picasso's periods and put them in chronological order? Additional points for stating the years.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 15, 2024 14:42:45 GMT 1, I assume the phone interviews are just Angela/Sofiya/etc. running you through the online questions and filling out the form for you? Isn't it just a gag like Dappy's pdf?
I assume the phone interviews are just Angela/Sofiya/etc. running you through the online questions and filling out the form for you? Isn't it just a gag like Dappy's pdf?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 15, 2024 13:28:55 GMT 1, Would absolutely love one of these but a serious price for a 150 edition print?
Hirst wanna have a word with you. Especially after the yesterday reveal that he sold only 3000 giclee prints for $3.5k. People are raving these will make a killing on the secondary.
I mean I believe they could not sell it for much cheaper if a smaller, B&W etching sell for $16k. I agree it would be a better edition of 75, but 150 still reasonable. It all really depends on how many releases AA does down the line.
Would absolutely love one of these but a serious price for a 150 edition print? Hirst wanna have a word with you. Especially after the yesterday reveal that he sold only 3000 giclee prints for $3.5k. People are raving these will make a killing on the secondary. I mean I believe they could not sell it for much cheaper if a smaller, B&W etching sell for $16k. I agree it would be a better edition of 75, but 150 still reasonable. It all really depends on how many releases AA does down the line.
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Damien Hirst Secret Garden Painting Print release, by Pawel on Feb 14, 2024 21:43:18 GMT 1, They will do well when art starts to hit the mainstrean just in the same way watches did 5 years ago. Previously watches were a hobbie amongst the connoisseurs until the mainstream caught it and prices ramped up significantly. Art has yet to reach that level but is slowly moving towards it and both damien hirst and heni clearly have the vision of making it more accessible. There are 1m rolex watches manufactured a year yet demand exceeds supply and here we are shouting because 300 is considered too high of an edition size. Focus on the big picture. Crypto just hit 2trn market cap today. Once more millionaires are minted, the cash will follow again to real utility assets like watches and art. Pick your winners early on now. Also I heard rumours that damien will stop these drops when he reaches โH20โ in order to preserve the credibility of the art economy.
I actually just came from my dentist's office and he was commenting how he had hoped to pick one of these up for his waiting room but thought they were undervalued given the fact that they come with a signed sticker. Instead he skipped the 2 week "open edition" window and is now keeping an eye on StockX for the first listings so he can make his fair market mainstream offer of $7k (in cryptocurrency, of course).
Tell them to get some Sweettoof instead. Perfect for a dentist.
They will do well when art starts to hit the mainstrean just in the same way watches did 5 years ago. Previously watches were a hobbie amongst the connoisseurs until the mainstream caught it and prices ramped up significantly. Art has yet to reach that level but is slowly moving towards it and both damien hirst and heni clearly have the vision of making it more accessible. There are 1m rolex watches manufactured a year yet demand exceeds supply and here we are shouting because 300 is considered too high of an edition size. Focus on the big picture. Crypto just hit 2trn market cap today. Once more millionaires are minted, the cash will follow again to real utility assets like watches and art. Pick your winners early on now. Also I heard rumours that damien will stop these drops when he reaches โH20โ in order to preserve the credibility of the art economy.
I actually just came from my dentist's office and he was commenting how he had hoped to pick one of these up for his waiting room but thought they were undervalued given the fact that they come with a signed sticker. Instead he skipped the 2 week "open edition" window and is now keeping an eye on StockX for the first listings so he can make his fair market mainstream offer of $7k (in cryptocurrency, of course).
Tell them to get some Sweettoof instead. Perfect for a dentist.
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Damien Hirst Secret Garden Painting Print release, by Pawel on Feb 14, 2024 12:29:21 GMT 1, This is getting a bit out of hand. 1. This is a very low edition for a Heni open edition Hirst print. That will help on the secondary but nobody knows by how much. It's bery much possible people just got tired with all the releases and decided to be more picky. It will be interesting what will be the next edition size. 2. I had H4 print and the glare never bothered me. The flatness of the image did. 3. I wouldn't call them a classic First images by any stretch, but these are miles more wall friendly than Empresses. If I recall correctly Empresses where released shortly after Virtues had started to reach 20k on secondary.
This is getting a bit out of hand. 1. This is a very low edition for a Heni open edition Hirst print. That will help on the secondary but nobody knows by how much. It's bery much possible people just got tired with all the releases and decided to be more picky. It will be interesting what will be the next edition size. 2. I had H4 print and the glare never bothered me. The flatness of the image did. 3. I wouldn't call them a classic First images by any stretch, but these are miles more wall friendly than Empresses. If I recall correctly Empresses where released shortly after Virtues had started to reach 20k on secondary.
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Damien Hirst Secret Garden Painting Print release, by Pawel on Feb 14, 2024 9:22:21 GMT 1, I though these numbers are really low and then it occured to me that I considered Condo edition size as too large at 150 each, 450 total.
I though these numbers are really low and then it occured to me that I considered Condo edition size as too large at 150 each, 450 total.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 13, 2024 20:35:07 GMT 1, Although I am amazed at how discrete the successful buyers are being on here! They are still recovering after all the preparations and the interview.
Although I am amazed at how discrete the successful buyers are being on here! They are still recovering after all the preparations and the interview.
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Misc Posters for sale , by Pawel on Feb 12, 2024 23:55:00 GMT 1, Sorry it's the Urban Art Association, you can only sell Damien Hirst and Ai Weiwei products here. And Condo. Condo so hot right now.
Sorry it's the Urban Art Association, you can only sell Damien Hirst and Ai Weiwei products here. And Condo. Condo so hot right now.
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Jon Burgerman ๐ฌ๐ง Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 12, 2024 18:31:49 GMT 1, I dont like when hand finished means adding some random stuff on top of a image.
I dont like when hand finished means adding some random stuff on top of a image.
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TIMED EDITIONS..., by Pawel on Feb 10, 2024 17:31:20 GMT 1, Last week Stanley Donwood had an inexpensive signed but unnumbered charity timed edition that ended with around 250 orders, but they ended up printing around 500 instead and deleted the post saying how many were ordered. I understand it likely was to help out those who missed the ordering window and commented. Thoughts? Where's the fun in this?
Last week Stanley Donwood had an inexpensive signed but unnumbered charity timed edition that ended with around 250 orders, but they ended up printing around 500 instead and deleted the post saying how many were ordered. I understand it likely was to help out those who missed the ordering window and commented. Thoughts? Where's the fun in this?
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Sainer ๐ต๐ฑ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 10, 2024 11:32:25 GMT 1, So I case people follow this thread and not the Etam Cru one.
Sunday drop Edition of 50, โฌ350
This is a very small edition for him (other than that huuuuge mother print). Curious if they decide to make smaller runs after the museum show.
PS. Might be one of last change to get more figurative piece from Sainer, if he keeps going into more abstract paintings. PPS.I'm aware that on the old editions of 50, sold last year for $5-6k, so this might be a decent one to have.
So I case people follow this thread and not the Etam Cru one. Sunday drop Edition of 50, โฌ350 This is a very small edition for him (other than that huuuuge mother print). Curious if they decide to make smaller runs after the museum show. PS. Might be one of last change to get more figurative piece from Sainer, if he keeps going into more abstract paintings. PPS.I'm aware that on the old editions of 50, sold last year for $5-6k, so this might be a decent one to have.
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Etam Cru ๐ต๐ฑ Sainer & Bezt โข Street Art โข Print Release , by Pawel on Feb 9, 2024 18:33:57 GMT 1, updates Edition of 50 350โฌ Any idea when is the drop?
On a side note With all the discussion about Horst, Ai Weiwei, invader open editions. We have here a print from an artist fresh from a solo show at a National museum (top tier institution in Poland),, large but not huge, edition only 50, reasonably priced, probably screen printed.
updates Edition of 50 350โฌ Any idea when is the drop? On a side note With all the discussion about Horst, Ai Weiwei, invader open editions. We have here a print from an artist fresh from a solo show at a National museum (top tier institution in Poland),, large but not huge, edition only 50, reasonably priced, probably screen printed.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 9, 2024 16:48:43 GMT 1, The more I look, the more I think these two artists are VERY similar (in their "markets"). As someone just said, Wood has released more editions, BUT only a couple have been really good. His last release was this beauty kitchen interior: Was it priced too high at primary? Edition of 70 and was $25K USD Jonas released some average prints and a couple of bad ones, but to say only a few are very good ones is an overstatement imho. He released 2 150+ page catalogs, so really plenty to choose from.
The more I look, the more I think these two artists are VERY similar (in their "markets"). As someone just said, Wood has released more editions, BUT only a couple have been really good. His last release was this beauty kitchen interior: Was it priced too high at primary? Edition of 70 and was $25K USD Jonas released some average prints and a couple of bad ones, but to say only a few are very good ones is an overstatement imho. He released 2 150+ page catalogs, so really plenty to choose from.
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Feb 9, 2024 15:58:50 GMT 1, Condo is arguably the most visible living artist along with Ruscha, Koons, and Jasper Johns. It seems perfectly reasonable to ensure - as best as one can do - the works go to great homes and collections, where the work will be appreciated - rather than purely speculated on. Of course, it might feel a little funny/absurd to have to do a call to give your money to a business - but, looking at this objectively, it presents as one of the most visible art events available to the public in 2024. If Anna Weyant or Jonas Wood did a show at Gagosian - not anyone with $$$ could buy the work - its vetted deeply, like for all in demand artists. Ultimately - I think this practice will ensure the work and artist are protected - and perhaps, dare i say it - lived with and enjoyed! This is very well said. Gagosian released a three print set (Matisse pots) by Jonas Wood five years back, and they all went to clients of theirs. The edition was a third of what these are (50 each for 150 total), but very few (if any) were flipped immediately. Price was also double what these are selling for (35K USD to 18K USD for the set). Wood - 1.75M (print sale gross) Condo - 3M (print sale gross) Should AA have dropped the edition size and upped the price? Is EVERYONE just being greedy here? Also, who's bigger: Condo or Wood? AA recently sell stuff at much more reasonable price that they used to. Hard to say who, but Jonas released much more editions than George. That might change now.
Condo is arguably the most visible living artist along with Ruscha, Koons, and Jasper Johns. It seems perfectly reasonable to ensure - as best as one can do - the works go to great homes and collections, where the work will be appreciated - rather than purely speculated on. Of course, it might feel a little funny/absurd to have to do a call to give your money to a business - but, looking at this objectively, it presents as one of the most visible art events available to the public in 2024. If Anna Weyant or Jonas Wood did a show at Gagosian - not anyone with $$$ could buy the work - its vetted deeply, like for all in demand artists. Ultimately - I think this practice will ensure the work and artist are protected - and perhaps, dare i say it - lived with and enjoyed! This is very well said. Gagosian released a three print set (Matisse pots) by Jonas Wood five years back, and they all went to clients of theirs. The edition was a third of what these are (50 each for 150 total), but very few (if any) were flipped immediately. Price was also double what these are selling for (35K USD to 18K USD for the set). Wood - 1.75M (print sale gross) Condo - 3M (print sale gross) Should AA have dropped the edition size and upped the price? Is EVERYONE just being greedy here? Also, who's bigger: Condo or Wood? AA recently sell stuff at much more reasonable price that they used to. Hard to say who, but Jonas released much more editions than George. That might change now.
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Invader Alert 2020 Print, by Pawel on Feb 8, 2024 22:18:02 GMT 1, Strange that these are not selling, when people just recently paid the same for a printed photo (yes the HENI "editions") Selling anything here is challenging. A buyer proposes a price you accept then they got second thoughts and offer 20% less. If you agree, they, after talking with some friends, specialists in the market, decide it's still too high.
Basically, people look for bargains only 99% of time here.
Strange that these are not selling, when people just recently paid the same for a printed photo (yes the HENI "editions") Selling anything here is challenging. A buyer proposes a price you accept then they got second thoughts and offer 20% less. If you agree, they, after talking with some friends, specialists in the market, decide it's still too high. Basically, people look for bargains only 99% of time here.
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Katherine Bradford New Limited Edition , by Pawel on Feb 8, 2024 20:51:08 GMT 1, Her last edtions were like $1000 a few years back they were even less. This isn't worth $3500. I'd pay $1500 max and I'm a fan of her work, used to own a couple of paintings of hers before she went crazy. Actually I need to take my hand finished one to the framers.
Her last edtions were like $1000 a few years back they were even less. This isn't worth $3500. I'd pay $1500 max and I'm a fan of her work, used to own a couple of paintings of hers before she went crazy. Actually I need to take my hand finished one to the framers.
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Katherine Bradford New Limited Edition , by Pawel on Feb 8, 2024 20:25:27 GMT 1, When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst. When you look specifically at Katherine Bradford's market, you see people trying to re-sell digital prints of hers for this price (if you don't understand the difference between a digital print and an 8-color litho then you should educate yourself on printmaking before collecting). And the original painting this print is based on sold for $140k a few months ago (https://www.phillips.com/detail/katherine-bradford/NY010523/323) so, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous to me. The print looks nice. I'm glad that we all had the opportunity to buy her hand painted prints for much less a few years ago. Back in 2020 a 16x12 canvas was $8000, $45k for a 72x60 inch I nearly bought a large one but went for a different artist. Regret it since to no be honest
When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst. When you look specifically at Katherine Bradford's market, you see people trying to re-sell digital prints of hers for this price (if you don't understand the difference between a digital print and an 8-color litho then you should educate yourself on printmaking before collecting). And the original painting this print is based on sold for $140k a few months ago (https://www.phillips.com/detail/katherine-bradford/NY010523/323) so, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous to me. The print looks nice. I'm glad that we all had the opportunity to buy her hand painted prints for much less a few years ago. Back in 2020 a 16x12 canvas was $8000, $45k for a 72x60 inch I nearly bought a large one but went for a different artist. Regret it since to no be honest
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Etam Cru ๐ต๐ฑ Sainer & Bezt โข Street Art โข Print Release , by Pawel on Feb 8, 2024 20:06:23 GMT 1, A print is coming...
A print is coming...
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