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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by NYart on Apr 5, 2021 14:51:02 GMT 1, An American thing... what a stupid comment. Perhaps there are just people on here who have no clue about collecting art... My "American thing" comment was tongue in cheek. ย I don't know if you are American yourself or are aware that, worldwide, Americans have this reputation of being a bit dim. ย The US is full of anti-vaxxers who think Bill Gates in putting microchips in to people. ย And then there's the ones who think the world is 6,000 years old and god created everything in 6 days. ย And I read that 6% of Americans think they have been abducted by aliens. ย By my estimate, that's about 20 million people! ย ย If you believe random statistics posted on the internet Iโve got news for you, you may be a bit dim yourself.
An American thing... what a stupid comment. Perhaps there are just people on here who have no clue about collecting art... My "American thing" comment was tongue in cheek. ย I don't know if you are American yourself or are aware that, worldwide, Americans have this reputation of being a bit dim. ย The US is full of anti-vaxxers who think Bill Gates in putting microchips in to people. ย And then there's the ones who think the world is 6,000 years old and god created everything in 6 days. ย And I read that 6% of Americans think they have been abducted by aliens. ย By my estimate, that's about 20 million people! ย ย If you believe random statistics posted on the internet Iโve got news for you, you may be a bit dim yourself.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 22:35:45 GMT 1, Then call the tax man and have him drawn and quartered. You guys clearly have too much time on your hands to be up in arms over when your VAT is calculated. Poor GP just trying to do his best.
Then call the tax man and have him drawn and quartered. You guys clearly have too much time on your hands to be up in arms over when your VAT is calculated. Poor GP just trying to do his best.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 22:22:20 GMT 1, But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. Exactly , laws the law Iโm not debating the law, merely the outrage expressed over the trivial difference between when tax is calculated. Who really cares..
But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. Exactly , laws the law Iโm not debating the law, merely the outrage expressed over the trivial difference between when tax is calculated. Who really cares..
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 22:04:41 GMT 1, I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it. I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund. Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either.
I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it. I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund. Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:42:05 GMT 1, Now GP can just double the prices of everything and remove the VAT completely to make everyone happy.
I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it.
Now GP can just double the prices of everything and remove the VAT completely to make everyone happy. I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:31:18 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:26:02 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
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Bitcoin, by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 18:49:34 GMT 1, I donโt really see why it be necessary to know who owns what wallet? As is cash is exchanged freely without any oversight, the government expects that we claim cash transactions and pay due taxes. Theyโd still require businesses to collect sales tax, businesses to file taxes, individuals to file income taxes. You canโt hide your income if your employer files a W-2 on your behalf, USD or BTC itโs doesnโt change it. The only thing that changes in terms of them collecting taxes is itโs more difficult to hunt down people for things like capital gains. It wouldn't be required, but if your salary goes in there directly anyone can just say they're unemployed and pay no taxes, so I would imagine it would become a requirement by go, although any business could tell hmrc where they pay the money to and who owns it. It's also illegal to hold large sums of cash privately for that very reason so the point of cash being the same is not fully true. I am in the UK so no idea what a W2 is, employment tax here goes via PAYE and the employer pays it. But for example I am self employed so self assessed for tax, I could declare 30k income but pay myself 100k, unless Revenue want to audit a small 1 man. Typing that out I realise that all applies anyway, could just do the same now ๐ค๐คซ
Yeah in the US with the W-2 I mentioned itโs our end of year basically summary of how much we made, how much was withheld for various taxes and reasons. Employers send a copy to the government and a copy to us. So they know how much were making and from whom. Wouldnโt be any reason that system would change if our currency did. So itโs not like income tax for your average employed individual would be evadable just because were paid in crypto. But yeah I canโt think of a specific way someone could tax evade via crypto where they absolutely couldnโt with cash.. I think theyโd be more successful, but I donโt think it would completely cripple essential services.
I donโt really see why it be necessary to know who owns what wallet? As is cash is exchanged freely without any oversight, the government expects that we claim cash transactions and pay due taxes. Theyโd still require businesses to collect sales tax, businesses to file taxes, individuals to file income taxes. You canโt hide your income if your employer files a W-2 on your behalf, USD or BTC itโs doesnโt change it. The only thing that changes in terms of them collecting taxes is itโs more difficult to hunt down people for things like capital gains. It wouldn't be required, but if your salary goes in there directly anyone can just say they're unemployed and pay no taxes, so I would imagine it would become a requirement by go, although any business could tell hmrc where they pay the money to and who owns it. It's also illegal to hold large sums of cash privately for that very reason so the point of cash being the same is not fully true. I am in the UK so no idea what a W2 is, employment tax here goes via PAYE and the employer pays it. But for example I am self employed so self assessed for tax, I could declare 30k income but pay myself 100k, unless Revenue want to audit a small 1 man. Typing that out I realise that all applies anyway, could just do the same now ๐ค๐คซ Yeah in the US with the W-2 I mentioned itโs our end of year basically summary of how much we made, how much was withheld for various taxes and reasons. Employers send a copy to the government and a copy to us. So they know how much were making and from whom. Wouldnโt be any reason that system would change if our currency did. So itโs not like income tax for your average employed individual would be evadable just because were paid in crypto. But yeah I canโt think of a specific way someone could tax evade via crypto where they absolutely couldnโt with cash.. I think theyโd be more successful, but I donโt think it would completely cripple essential services.
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Bitcoin, by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 15:49:07 GMT 1, I see your argument, but the governments really wouldnโt get to the point of being unable to support essential services such as infrastructure and emergency services. The armyโs only necessary because other countries have armies. If no country could afford them because of Bitcoin depleting tax revenue I believe weโd have achieved world peace - thanks BTC. But to my argument there certainly are many ways one can tax evade using crypto but itโs not complete. Even if we reach the point where employers are paying wages in Bitcoin, theyโre still reporting the paid wages, employees still need to file income taxes. Companies are still required to pay taxes on their earnings. Itโs easier to hide and falsify but you canโt avoid them all together. In my ideal scenario it would force governments to get more fiscally responsible and cut down on waste. They could and should prioritize essentials if unable to raise the revenue they โneedโ. As for coin... if the world ran on crypto coins alone then to tax people each wallet would require proof of ownership by some form of ID so every wallet can be linked to a person.
I donโt really see why it be necessary to know who owns what wallet? As is cash is exchanged freely without any oversight, the government expects that we claim cash transactions and pay due taxes. Theyโd still require businesses to collect sales tax, businesses to file taxes, individuals to file income taxes. You canโt hide your income if your employer files a W-2 on your behalf, USD or BTC itโs doesnโt change it. The only thing that changes in terms of them collecting taxes is itโs more difficult to hunt down people for things like capital gains.
I see your argument, but the governments really wouldnโt get to the point of being unable to support essential services such as infrastructure and emergency services. The armyโs only necessary because other countries have armies. If no country could afford them because of Bitcoin depleting tax revenue I believe weโd have achieved world peace - thanks BTC. But to my argument there certainly are many ways one can tax evade using crypto but itโs not complete. Even if we reach the point where employers are paying wages in Bitcoin, theyโre still reporting the paid wages, employees still need to file income taxes. Companies are still required to pay taxes on their earnings. Itโs easier to hide and falsify but you canโt avoid them all together. In my ideal scenario it would force governments to get more fiscally responsible and cut down on waste. They could and should prioritize essentials if unable to raise the revenue they โneedโ. As for coin... if the world ran on crypto coins alone then to tax people each wallet would require proof of ownership by some form of ID so every wallet can be linked to a person. I donโt really see why it be necessary to know who owns what wallet? As is cash is exchanged freely without any oversight, the government expects that we claim cash transactions and pay due taxes. Theyโd still require businesses to collect sales tax, businesses to file taxes, individuals to file income taxes. You canโt hide your income if your employer files a W-2 on your behalf, USD or BTC itโs doesnโt change it. The only thing that changes in terms of them collecting taxes is itโs more difficult to hunt down people for things like capital gains.
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Bitcoin, by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 12:39:45 GMT 1, ]But in general, people often look at Bitcoin and think it is this great wonderful thing, decentralised money, no control by banks/governments - all sounds ideal. Those really keen on that aspect have a dream all money goes that way, rendering Taxing a nightmare, meaning governments get less money, some say "great" to that, but then who pays to repair their roads, who pays their firemen and army etc.. you can't have a world run by privately owned armies and emergency services..
I see your argument, but the governments really wouldnโt get to the point of being unable to support essential services such as infrastructure and emergency services. The armyโs only necessary because other countries have armies. If no country could afford them because of Bitcoin depleting tax revenue I believe weโd have achieved world peace - thanks BTC. But to my argument there certainly are many ways one can tax evade using crypto but itโs not complete. Even if we reach the point where employers are paying wages in Bitcoin, theyโre still reporting the paid wages, employees still need to file income taxes. Companies are still required to pay taxes on their earnings. Itโs easier to hide and falsify but you canโt avoid them all together. In my ideal scenario it would force governments to get more fiscally responsible and cut down on waste. They could and should prioritize essentials if unable to raise the revenue they โneedโ.
]But in general, people often look at Bitcoin and think it is this great wonderful thing, decentralised money, no control by banks/governments - all sounds ideal. Those really keen on that aspect have a dream all money goes that way, rendering Taxing a nightmare, meaning governments get less money, some say "great" to that, but then who pays to repair their roads, who pays their firemen and army etc.. you can't have a world run by privately owned armies and emergency services.. I see your argument, but the governments really wouldnโt get to the point of being unable to support essential services such as infrastructure and emergency services. The armyโs only necessary because other countries have armies. If no country could afford them because of Bitcoin depleting tax revenue I believe weโd have achieved world peace - thanks BTC. But to my argument there certainly are many ways one can tax evade using crypto but itโs not complete. Even if we reach the point where employers are paying wages in Bitcoin, theyโre still reporting the paid wages, employees still need to file income taxes. Companies are still required to pay taxes on their earnings. Itโs easier to hide and falsify but you canโt avoid them all together. In my ideal scenario it would force governments to get more fiscally responsible and cut down on waste. They could and should prioritize essentials if unable to raise the revenue they โneedโ.
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Banksy, Murmure, Obey, Kai, Whatson, and More for sale!, by NYart on Mar 31, 2021 11:25:05 GMT 1, Pez sold, post updated to reflect whatโs available
Pez sold, post updated to reflect whatโs available
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Lovin it now, by NYart on Mar 30, 2021 19:49:29 GMT 1, Can anyone shed any light on who this is by please? I thought it was Ron English but cant find anything to back that up and cant make out signature either. I have it on a t shirt bought years ago and Ive always wondered.
Thatโd be Lora zombie I do believe
Can anyone shed any light on who this is by please? I thought it was Ron English but cant find anything to back that up and cant make out signature either. I have it on a t shirt bought years ago and Ive always wondered.
Thatโd be Lora zombie I do believe
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Banksy, Murmure, Obey, Kai, Whatson, and More for sale!, by NYart on Mar 28, 2021 23:04:18 GMT 1, Not sure if the PEZ is a new addition but recently sold my copy for ยฃ1000 to help give you a guide with pricing. Seems to be a lot of people looking for PEZ works at the moment on here. Sure it wonโt hang around. Been on the wall since about a week after the release haha. One of the few prints given the size that the Hirst will fit well in its spot though unfortunately.
Not sure if the PEZ is a new addition but recently sold my copy for ยฃ1000 to help give you a guide with pricing. Seems to be a lot of people looking for PEZ works at the moment on here. Sure it wonโt hang around. Been on the wall since about a week after the release haha. One of the few prints given the size that the Hirst will fit well in its spot though unfortunately.
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Banksy, Murmure, Obey, Kai, Whatson, and More for sale!, by NYart on Mar 28, 2021 20:50:03 GMT 1, Big sales post update, some good stuff added
Big sales post update, some good stuff added
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NFT Art , by NYart on Mar 12, 2021 0:23:16 GMT 1, hmm... very well could ย be ย connected to the ย "tulip trust" ย ย TRON is some serious ย shit. now the real question . since the image is a combination of every single beeple piece made since ย 2013, does sun have the ย right ย and ย option, to break apart this massive piece and sell ย off the piece in chunks? ย ย I mean this is ย no Fail ย Tower, but ย I cant see why he would not be able to, right? each piece for a ย million? he ย will ย 5-10X his ย original ย 60+ mill investment. ย ย P.S. FUWB Id say no, and probably for the same reason you โcanโtโ break apart the Faile tower. Because it wouldnโt have the artists support and without that, value.
hmm... very well could ย be ย connected to the ย "tulip trust" ย ย TRON is some serious ย shit. now the real question . since the image is a combination of every single beeple piece made since ย 2013, does sun have the ย right ย and ย option, to break apart this massive piece and sell ย off the piece in chunks? ย ย I mean this is ย no Fail ย Tower, but ย I cant see why he would not be able to, right? each piece for a ย million? he ย will ย 5-10X his ย original ย 60+ mill investment. ย ย P.S. FUWB Id say no, and probably for the same reason you โcanโtโ break apart the Faile tower. Because it wouldnโt have the artists support and without that, value.
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Storing of prints, by NYart on Mar 2, 2021 13:25:47 GMT 1, How long do you think it is safe to keep prints in original tubes, am thinking of getting sleeves and a folder as my collection keeps growing. At some point U.K. framers May reopen as have plenty of wall space calling out for art Really no set period of time, but a couple months should be fine for most prints. All depends on the paper, inks/paint, acidity levels of the tube or wrapping paper. Thinner papers would bounce back quicker than say 400gsm in a small tube. Thick paint or heavy inks really shouldnโt be rolled at all. Iโve seen a flat packed print with acid burn after, maybe 8 months? But had it been packed properly with acid free materials it shouldโve been fine for years. So thereโs a lot of factors but for an average print I wouldnโt worry if itโs only a couple months.
How long do you think it is safe to keep prints in original tubes, am thinking of getting sleeves and a folder as my collection keeps growing. At some point U.K. framers May reopen as have plenty of wall space calling out for art Really no set period of time, but a couple months should be fine for most prints. All depends on the paper, inks/paint, acidity levels of the tube or wrapping paper. Thinner papers would bounce back quicker than say 400gsm in a small tube. Thick paint or heavy inks really shouldnโt be rolled at all. Iโve seen a flat packed print with acid burn after, maybe 8 months? But had it been packed properly with acid free materials it shouldโve been fine for years. So thereโs a lot of factors but for an average print I wouldnโt worry if itโs only a couple months.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by NYart on Feb 27, 2021 2:33:18 GMT 1, Politeness for me. Followed by Honor and Justice.. I like the darker blues
Politeness for me. Followed by Honor and Justice.. I like the darker blues
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Yok Joaquin ๐ต๐ญ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by NYart on Feb 8, 2021 12:30:17 GMT 1, Hmmm based on this video I find him the opposite of impressive! Many coloured cans and a single flower far from difficult. Iโll take a look at what else heโs done but if thatโs anything to go by then itโs not looking good. Hard to judge art on degree of difficulty alone. Wouldnโt bode well for plenty of forum favorites.. Shrigley to name one.
Hmmm based on this video I find him the opposite of impressive! Many coloured cans and a single flower far from difficult. Iโll take a look at what else heโs done but if thatโs anything to go by then itโs not looking good. Hard to judge art on degree of difficulty alone. Wouldnโt bode well for plenty of forum favorites.. Shrigley to name one.
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Banksy, Murmure, Obey, Kai, Whatson, and More for sale!, by NYart on Feb 7, 2021 18:02:21 GMT 1, Tabby sound of uzis is sold
Tabby sound of uzis is sold
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Banksy โข Peckham Rock Postcard, by NYart on Jan 30, 2021 18:44:32 GMT 1, With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get.. 3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐ Think the joke sailed way over your head sunshine.
I got the joke - then realized you actually werenโt that far off on tenners
With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get.. 3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐ Think the joke sailed way over your head sunshine. I got the joke - then realized you actually werenโt that far off on tenners
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Banksy โข Peckham Rock Postcard, by NYart on Jan 30, 2021 17:28:37 GMT 1, With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get.. 3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐ The difference here is that all 15,000 Peckham Rocks are sold and in the market. Most of the 100,000 Tenners are in a box underneath Laz's desk... How many Tenners are in circulation? 1,000 ? 5,000? I'm going short on Tenners. Anyone here on Reddit ? ย
Yeah, thatโs fair.. we donโt know for sure how many tenners are actually in circulation. Thatโs personally why I sold mine when I did though. So far Laz has been smart trickling them at the pace he has but surely he wonโt stop.
With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get.. 3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐ The difference here is that all 15,000 Peckham Rocks are sold and in the market. Most of the 100,000 Tenners are in a box underneath Laz's desk... How many Tenners are in circulation? 1,000 ? 5,000? I'm going short on Tenners. Anyone here on Reddit ? ย Yeah, thatโs fair.. we donโt know for sure how many tenners are actually in circulation. Thatโs personally why I sold mine when I did though. So far Laz has been smart trickling them at the pace he has but surely he wonโt stop.
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Banksy โข Peckham Rock Postcard, by NYart on Jan 30, 2021 14:52:26 GMT 1, how many of these postcards have been made? 3 millions? So the market cap of Peckham rocks is ยฃ600,000,000 / $822,000,000.ย Banksy you legend !!! ;-)
With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get..
3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐
how many of these postcards have been made? 3 millions? So the market cap of Peckham rocks is ยฃ600,000,000 / $822,000,000.ย Banksy you legend !!! ;-) With 15,000 rocks at ยฃ200 each, and 100,000 tenners at ยฃ2000 each we get.. 3 million market cap on Peckham - 200 million on tenners ๐
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Murmure ๐จ๐ต Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by NYart on Jan 29, 2021 2:34:24 GMT 1, Took me probably a year to grab one. I was able to upgrade to an OG but still very fond of the print (AP #1/4)
Took me probably a year to grab one. I was able to upgrade to an OG but still very fond of the print (AP #1/4)
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Parra Nike Dunk + Blazers, by NYart on Jan 21, 2021 22:33:12 GMT 1, Any interest in two pairs of Parra Nikes? Blazer lows and Dunk lows both size 10 US mens. New in box never worn. $600 + ship and fees
Any interest in two pairs of Parra Nikes? Blazer lows and Dunk lows both size 10 US mens. New in box never worn. $600 + ship and fees
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 14:21:06 GMT 1, Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean. I wouldnโt place much weight on the cleanliness, wouldโve been easier to gently clean the front with some water than the reverse. Whether or not it is hand painted is a flag, but canโt rule out it being legitimate even if hand painted. Maybe Iโm just placing too much weight on the canvas but I feel even if I knew what the correct canvas should be, and tried to track it down to paint a fake Iโd have a hell of a time. Having the correct canvas and a good enough painting that all of us whoโve seen tons of crappy fakes over the wonder if it could be legit.. seems like a winner.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean. I wouldnโt place much weight on the cleanliness, wouldโve been easier to gently clean the front with some water than the reverse. Whether or not it is hand painted is a flag, but canโt rule out it being legitimate even if hand painted. Maybe Iโm just placing too much weight on the canvas but I feel even if I knew what the correct canvas should be, and tried to track it down to paint a fake Iโd have a hell of a time. Having the correct canvas and a good enough painting that all of us whoโve seen tons of crappy fakes over the wonder if it could be legit.. seems like a winner.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:53:30 GMT 1, Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away. If it even was editioned, if it was a different stencil who knows if it was a test piece or what.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away. If it even was editioned, if it was a different stencil who knows if it was a test piece or what.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:46:10 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas.
Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:32:19 GMT 1, The correct type of canvas has me convinced. Thanks for sharing
The correct type of canvas has me convinced. Thanks for sharing
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Paco Pomet ๐ช๐ธ Granada, Spain โข New Paintings , by NYart on Jan 10, 2021 17:40:35 GMT 1, Iโd probably be a buyer if Bert and Ernie were colored in like Cookie Monster in Internacional
Iโd probably be a buyer if Bert and Ernie were colored in like Cookie Monster in Internacional
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Murmure ๐จ๐ต Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by NYart on Jan 6, 2021 18:54:31 GMT 1, Iโm a big fan of Murmure and do like the print, but already have the previous 3 from the garbage series. Ready for something new personally.
Iโm a big fan of Murmure and do like the print, but already have the previous 3 from the garbage series. Ready for something new personally.
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