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ebay advice please.., by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 5, 2008 23:07:18 GMT 1, how about some advice on the piece itself?!
it's a bit weak,no? is there nothing better by rotella out there? i see it wasn't expensive, but still...
how about some advice on the piece itself?!
it's a bit weak,no? is there nothing better by rotella out there? i see it wasn't expensive, but still...
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Stella Vine three new prints on sale now, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 5, 2008 22:05:17 GMT 1, really puts into perspective how overpriced all the shite is thats flogged on this board...
an editioned/signed stella vine for under ยฃ200 or a grafter/cartrain etc? tough choice
really puts into perspective how overpriced all the shite is thats flogged on this board...
an editioned/signed stella vine for under ยฃ200 or a grafter/cartrain etc? tough choice
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Faile Show - Lost in Glimmering Shadows, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 2, 2008 22:21:08 GMT 1, invitations were sent out last week.
looking forward to seeing all this new work, especially 'off site' which, like Poison, makes a nice change.
invitations were sent out last week.
looking forward to seeing all this new work, especially 'off site' which, like Poison, makes a nice change.
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Paul Insect โข Bullion, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 2, 2008 20:28:09 GMT 1, name a price then beanbag and we'll take 40% off it, then we will know how much it is worth.
name a price then beanbag and we'll take 40% off it, then we will know how much it is worth.
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MICALLEF MINOTAUR,EBAY, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 2, 2008 12:54:20 GMT 1, thats funny, because the signature looks EXACTLY like all the others i have seen recently
thats funny, because the signature looks EXACTLY like all the others i have seen recently
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Tea Drinker Wanted., by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 1, 2008 20:02:12 GMT 1,
flatness and general lack of vibrancy...
a bit dull in fact. to my eyes anyway.
flatness and general lack of vibrancy... a bit dull in fact. to my eyes anyway.
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Tea Drinker Wanted., by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 1, 2008 19:44:48 GMT 1, they all suffer from the same problem when you get them home and out of the tube.
thats all i say, people can make their own minds up, but personally have shifted the Neate prints i had...
they all suffer from the same problem when you get them home and out of the tube.
thats all i say, people can make their own minds up, but personally have shifted the Neate prints i had...
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Paul Insect โข Bullion, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Nov 1, 2008 18:53:07 GMT 1, this one is sold out plus its real gold the other one isnt full gold and is still for sale
classic
what do you think paul did? take a bite out of a solid gold bar and sold 'em for ยฃ2k or whatever?
this one is sold out plus its real gold the other one isnt full gold and is still for sale classic what do you think paul did? take a bite out of a solid gold bar and sold 'em for ยฃ2k or whatever?
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Supine - Perfect Wave has arrived!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 29, 2008 21:54:55 GMT 1, thanks for that, so glad i missed out so your friend ( "everything's got a price except his soul" - who the fuck is he? gordon gekko?) could make a few hundred quid.
do me a favour and advise him miss bugs and grafter are where the moneys at, the last thing this 'scene' needs is another parasite
thanks for that, so glad i missed out so your friend ( "everything's got a price except his soul" - who the fuck is he? gordon gekko?) could make a few hundred quid.
do me a favour and advise him miss bugs and grafter are where the moneys at, the last thing this 'scene' needs is another parasite
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Supine - Perfect Wave has arrived!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 29, 2008 21:04:34 GMT 1, he's here
...and you're so pleased at "the closest thing to an original" you'll own that you stuck it straight on auction saboteur.
class.
he's here ...and you're so pleased at " the closest thing to an original" you'll own that you stuck it straight on auction saboteur. class.
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Pink Mary *SOLD* - 10 Ways STILL FOR SALE, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 26, 2008 9:05:50 GMT 1, they are both fantastic.
10 ways is one of my favourite Faile prints...good luck
they are both fantastic.
10 ways is one of my favourite Faile prints...good luck
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Supine - Perfect Wave has arrived!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 25, 2008 15:34:10 GMT 1, Mine should be here shortly but I'll make someone on here a deal... I bought the print before my "big" purchase and need to sell a few things. You can have my Supine PM ed of 40 print at cost (370 GBP) but you have to buy either my Faile PM print I have for sale for 485 GBP which was cost. So, that's 855 GBP for two PM prints. Alternatively you can buy the Choe London Girl Print for 410 GBP (which is cost) making it 780 GBP for the two. Not bad I dont think! Only cash deals though as I need the money for another piece. PM me if you want.
ahh very cunning
both the others would make you losses, so using the desirability of the Supine to drag the two prints up to cost. Clever and fair too! Good luck
Mine should be here shortly but I'll make someone on here a deal... I bought the print before my "big" purchase and need to sell a few things. You can have my Supine PM ed of 40 print at cost (370 GBP) but you have to buy either my Faile PM print I have for sale for 485 GBP which was cost. So, that's 855 GBP for two PM prints. Alternatively you can buy the Choe London Girl Print for 410 GBP (which is cost) making it 780 GBP for the two. Not bad I dont think! Only cash deals though as I need the money for another piece. PM me if you want. ahh very cunning both the others would make you losses, so using the desirability of the Supine to drag the two prints up to cost. Clever and fair too! Good luck
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Gee Vaucher ๐ฌ๐ง Crass โข Punk โข Print Release , by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 24, 2008 19:52:15 GMT 1, wheres ruggs?
he is letting the side down badly without regular number left updates
wheres ruggs?
he is letting the side down badly without regular number left updates
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Gee Vaucher ๐ฌ๐ง Crass โข Punk โข Print Release , by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 23, 2008 20:31:46 GMT 1, for chrissakes stop with the countdown
ruggs you seem obsessed with whether they are sold out or not?!
for chrissakes stop with the countdown
ruggs you seem obsessed with whether they are sold out or not?!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 23, 2008 19:22:08 GMT 1, ...and estimated at ยฃ7- 10k right?
too much, despite it being an excellent piece. Shame i missed it when it was at NIA as it's constantly gone up in price since then through each owner!
edit- talking about the BAST
...and estimated at ยฃ7- 10k right?
too much, despite it being an excellent piece. Shame i missed it when it was at NIA as it's constantly gone up in price since then through each owner!
edit- talking about the BAST
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Okay then - MMMYYYYY BEST Faile on ever!, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 23, 2008 18:30:44 GMT 1, johnston wins it....
johnston wins it....
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WTB: Bast - Paris, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 23, 2008 18:27:16 GMT 1, yes the older pieces bear much more resemblance to (and in many cases are) paste ups that are all over brooklyn.
as ripper says, classics. simple, direct classics.
yes the older pieces bear much more resemblance to (and in many cases are) paste ups that are all over brooklyn.
as ripper says, classics. simple, direct classics.
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Cartrain ๐ฌ๐ง Tate Gallery โข Damien Hirst โข Gilbert & George, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 19:36:16 GMT 1, Christ this is getting tedious! Trying to have a debate with people who have such a profound lack of artistic understanding or sensibility and are to put it politely...still in a challenging phase of their intellectual development, yet have somehow convinced themselves that they know everything is one of the most soul-deadening experiences imaginable. I feel this has descended to the level of trying to communicate with a bunch of flat-earthers who suffer from a severe case of empty vessel syndrome. It's just not going to happen really is it. We might as well be talking completely different languages, and I've heard more enlightened views about art coming from the average London cab driver than I have from some forum members. So for those reasons, plus the fact that I seem to have attracted my own personal fanboy on here who has started to exhibit some rather worrying Barry George type symptoms, means that I've decided to leave you all to it. No doubt many of you will continue your childish bullying of Cartrain, but I'd just like to leave you with this thought...seeing as how Banksy and Cartrain get along quite well as far as I'm aware, I'd suggest that it's more than a little ironic that the very artist so many of you idolise and whose name this forum bears probably thinks that most of you are a bunch of sad pricks for the way you treat Cartrain.
i don't think anyone you have been disputing with has ever claimed to 'idolise' banksy- in fact i think that this is something you have decided to be FACT and therefore it is so. Just as you have solidified your views on cartrains art and leave no room to accept any criticism of his work.
Please come back when you have shown a classic cartrain collage to a cabbie i'd love to hear what he says... Though he may not say much, being as he would likely be laughing in your face at the time.
You continually harp on about "artistic understanding" yet neither you or the supposed artist can offer any form of explanation for this dross beyond apparent "exasperation" at an apparent failure of people to 'get it'
as i have said before, students working at GCSE level could produce this work. Is that what makes it bad? No. Is it art worth discussing in public? No. Nothing against someone thinking and creating their own stuff, shove it on the streets if you want to, but to take the piss and try to sell it? No way. If the work really has any strength to it then it would be discovered and discussed naturally, not pushed by '100artworks'
I'd like to say your sunny presence will be missed, but it won't, so goodbye whoever the fuck you were...
Christ this is getting tedious! Trying to have a debate with people who have such a profound lack of artistic understanding or sensibility and are to put it politely...still in a challenging phase of their intellectual development, yet have somehow convinced themselves that they know everything is one of the most soul-deadening experiences imaginable. I feel this has descended to the level of trying to communicate with a bunch of flat-earthers who suffer from a severe case of empty vessel syndrome. It's just not going to happen really is it. We might as well be talking completely different languages, and I've heard more enlightened views about art coming from the average London cab driver than I have from some forum members. So for those reasons, plus the fact that I seem to have attracted my own personal fanboy on here who has started to exhibit some rather worrying Barry George type symptoms, means that I've decided to leave you all to it. No doubt many of you will continue your childish bullying of Cartrain, but I'd just like to leave you with this thought...seeing as how Banksy and Cartrain get along quite well as far as I'm aware, I'd suggest that it's more than a little ironic that the very artist so many of you idolise and whose name this forum bears probably thinks that most of you are a bunch of sad pricks for the way you treat Cartrain. i don't think anyone you have been disputing with has ever claimed to 'idolise' banksy- in fact i think that this is something you have decided to be FACT and therefore it is so. Just as you have solidified your views on cartrains art and leave no room to accept any criticism of his work. Please come back when you have shown a classic cartrain collage to a cabbie i'd love to hear what he says... Though he may not say much, being as he would likely be laughing in your face at the time. You continually harp on about "artistic understanding" yet neither you or the supposed artist can offer any form of explanation for this dross beyond apparent "exasperation" at an apparent failure of people to 'get it' as i have said before, students working at GCSE level could produce this work. Is that what makes it bad? No. Is it art worth discussing in public? No. Nothing against someone thinking and creating their own stuff, shove it on the streets if you want to, but to take the piss and try to sell it? No way. If the work really has any strength to it then it would be discovered and discussed naturally, not pushed by '100artworks' I'd like to say your sunny presence will be missed, but it won't, so goodbye whoever the fuck you were...
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Cartrain ๐ฌ๐ง Tate Gallery โข Damien Hirst โข Gilbert & George, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 19:10:14 GMT 1, You crack me up. Your evaluation and the wording you use about the ''sloppy collage'' only goes to show your lack of knowledge and lack of openess to new Art To refer to any positive asspects of the work as unintentional is a judgment your not qualified to make. you clearly feel a need to belittle the things you don't understand.rather than ask for help you crack me up ;D
the only thing i don't understand is why you think these pathetic and laughable attempts at "art" should be put up for sale. It's a bit embarrassing really.
Also, stop regurgitating crap written by 2301 please, your number one fan is sadly mistaken, no amount of "knowledge" would/should stop anyone seeing that what you produce is amateurish shite...
not that i ever expect you to agree with me of course, just be aware you aren't a misunderstood talent who is being mauled by simpleton critics who "just don't get it..." Your stuff will never be acclaimed, never be remembered. If you stopped posting here and your "gallery" representatives went bust i doubt anyone would ever mention you again.
Unless they started a thread about "remember when" (i.e. Elliott) - you get the picture.
You crack me up. Your evaluation and the wording you use about the ''sloppy collage'' only goes to show your lack of knowledge and lack of openess to new Art To refer to any positive asspects of the work as unintentional is a judgment your not qualified to make. you clearly feel a need to belittle the things you don't understand.rather than ask for help you crack me up ;D the only thing i don't understand is why you think these pathetic and laughable attempts at "art" should be put up for sale. It's a bit embarrassing really. Also, stop regurgitating crap written by 2301 please, your number one fan is sadly mistaken, no amount of "knowledge" would/should stop anyone seeing that what you produce is amateurish shite... not that i ever expect you to agree with me of course, just be aware you aren't a misunderstood talent who is being mauled by simpleton critics who "just don't get it..." Your stuff will never be acclaimed, never be remembered. If you stopped posting here and your "gallery" representatives went bust i doubt anyone would ever mention you again. Unless they started a thread about "remember when" (i.e. Elliott) - you get the picture.
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Cartrain ๐ฌ๐ง Tate Gallery โข Damien Hirst โข Gilbert & George, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 15:35:57 GMT 1, I'd be interested to know how these sloppy collages relate to the "background to all of this". Or how about the 'cardboard mounts'?
please look at the work and then tell me how and why these are worthy of anyones time, much less of attempts to sell them.
Don't get me wrong, collage is an effective medium and can be used to strong effect to put across a message. BUT these are done so crudely and so with such simplistic (although occasionally bizarre and unintentionally hilarious juxtapositions) i simply do not buy the fact that any intelligent or adult thought has gone into them. I'd say that, if anyone, it is the 'artist' who is the Sun reader here.
i may appear arrogant but i like to think i have a reasonably sophisticated eye for art that can pick out the good from the bad, and jesus is your boy BAD.
but, please, keep the highly vocal defense up it makes for entertaining reading, convinced as you are in your own moral superiority and the artistic integrity of this precocious "talent"
I'd be interested to know how these sloppy collages relate to the "background to all of this". Or how about the 'cardboard mounts'?
please look at the work and then tell me how and why these are worthy of anyones time, much less of attempts to sell them.
Don't get me wrong, collage is an effective medium and can be used to strong effect to put across a message. BUT these are done so crudely and so with such simplistic (although occasionally bizarre and unintentionally hilarious juxtapositions) i simply do not buy the fact that any intelligent or adult thought has gone into them. I'd say that, if anyone, it is the 'artist' who is the Sun reader here.
i may appear arrogant but i like to think i have a reasonably sophisticated eye for art that can pick out the good from the bad, and jesus is your boy BAD.
but, please, keep the highly vocal defense up it makes for entertaining reading, convinced as you are in your own moral superiority and the artistic integrity of this precocious "talent"
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Cartrain ๐ฌ๐ง Tate Gallery โข Damien Hirst โข Gilbert & George, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 14:40:29 GMT 1, QUOTE " But he's not developing his own style. Check out his Myspace page: profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=144464359The beginning of developing your own style should be to develop your own signature, let alone a signature style. Mind you he's not alone in this - Dolk comes to mind. Surely he realizes that the people seeing artistic success are those who stand out from the pack - Faile, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla etc etc? If he can't, and you can't, it's strong evidence why urban art will become a flash in the pan. Yeah, well I'm not really into those artists you mentioned there, so it's all relative to individual taste I suppose. How you define 'artistic success' is also problematic, I personally don't use commercial appeal or mass popularity as the way to judge that. Interesting that you mention 'Urban art' because that to me is another source of frequent misunderstanding on here. I think a lot of people on this forum want more of a contemporary art gallery type product, whereas Cartrain's work is much more raw and a lot closer to the street, so it's like two different worlds colliding here....worlds which incidentally I feel are moving ever further apart and becoming increasingly polarised. Which I'm not saying is necessarily a bad thing, as I'd rather see street art return to the authenticity it once had, before commerce became involved.
give me a break! "raw..street work"
when?
QUOTE " But he's not developing his own style. Check out his Myspace page: profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=144464359The beginning of developing your own style should be to develop your own signature, let alone a signature style. Mind you he's not alone in this - Dolk comes to mind. Surely he realizes that the people seeing artistic success are those who stand out from the pack - Faile, Bast, Micallef, Neate, Parla etc etc? If he can't, and you can't, it's strong evidence why urban art will become a flash in the pan. Yeah, well I'm not really into those artists you mentioned there, so it's all relative to individual taste I suppose. How you define 'artistic success' is also problematic, I personally don't use commercial appeal or mass popularity as the way to judge that. Interesting that you mention 'Urban art' because that to me is another source of frequent misunderstanding on here. I think a lot of people on this forum want more of a contemporary art gallery type product, whereas Cartrain's work is much more raw and a lot closer to the street, so it's like two different worlds colliding here....worlds which incidentally I feel are moving ever further apart and becoming increasingly polarised. Which I'm not saying is necessarily a bad thing, as I'd rather see street art return to the authenticity it once had, before commerce became involved. give me a break! "raw..street work" when?
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Cartrain ๐ฌ๐ง Tate Gallery โข Damien Hirst โข Gilbert & George, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 14:37:42 GMT 1, it's funny really, because this is all very simple.
cartrain's "art" is GCSE standard, sloppily executed, mind-numbing trash. The 'anger' as 2301 would call it, derives from the fact that certain people (including the 'artist') feel it is worthy of selling. It is not, and frankly smacks of trying to cash in on the minority of sad bastards who may actually swallow the faux-intellectual nonsense that accompanies the crappy collages and "official cartrain mounts"
now onto this latest stunt- why not subvert the idea and try placing work in more unusual public locations and seeing how long it lasts instead of sticking to a well known and deeply unoriginal idea. It surely cannot be that hard to have some creativity of your own, even if most 15/1 whatever year olds are near enough brain dead.
this person gets waaay to much attention, when much more talented artists barely get a mention. Doze Green at Levine anyone? barely a whisper.
As to Cartrains legal guardian 2301, i suggest you stop coming across like a social worker /guardian reader on smack and take a longer look at the shabby and amateurish art produced by the person you are so keen to defend...
it's funny really, because this is all very simple.
cartrain's "art" is GCSE standard, sloppily executed, mind-numbing trash. The 'anger' as 2301 would call it, derives from the fact that certain people (including the 'artist') feel it is worthy of selling. It is not, and frankly smacks of trying to cash in on the minority of sad bastards who may actually swallow the faux-intellectual nonsense that accompanies the crappy collages and "official cartrain mounts"
now onto this latest stunt- why not subvert the idea and try placing work in more unusual public locations and seeing how long it lasts instead of sticking to a well known and deeply unoriginal idea. It surely cannot be that hard to have some creativity of your own, even if most 15/1 whatever year olds are near enough brain dead.
this person gets waaay to much attention, when much more talented artists barely get a mention. Doze Green at Levine anyone? barely a whisper.
As to Cartrains legal guardian 2301, i suggest you stop coming across like a social worker /guardian reader on smack and take a longer look at the shabby and amateurish art produced by the person you are so keen to defend...
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The Lazarides Extravaganza (Shut Down Show), by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 14:22:41 GMT 1, so who d'ya think it's by then?
and please don't say d*face or TLP, who appear to be the only two artists whose work you are able to identify
so who d'ya think it's by then?
and please don't say d*face or TLP, who appear to be the only two artists whose work you are able to identify
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The Lazarides Extravaganza (Shut Down Show), by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 14:20:24 GMT 1, you really are fucking dumb, aren't you xmas?
you really are fucking dumb, aren't you xmas?
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Wooster Special Edition with Blek Le Rat, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 19, 2008 10:20:22 GMT 1, it seems Blek has decided to destroy his own well respected reputation..
...that crazy french bastard...
it seems Blek has decided to destroy his own well respected reputation..
...that crazy french bastard...
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TLP canvas for sale REDUCED PRICE, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 18, 2008 13:58:50 GMT 1, ahh your bedroom you mean?
mummy won't let you leave your tubes around the house then?
ahh your bedroom you mean?
mummy won't let you leave your tubes around the house then?
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Faile Get Acquainted , by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 17, 2008 19:34:18 GMT 1, 10k?!
at least you are asking for offers! just as well really...
10k?!
at least you are asking for offers! just as well really...
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Banksy Kate Moss Print, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 16, 2008 21:05:43 GMT 1, classic
classic
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What's happened to Bast?, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 16, 2008 18:23:38 GMT 1, amen amin
there is only one original on ebay USA that i can see, with a $4k start. No-one should worry about BAST.
amen amin
there is only one original on ebay USA that i can see, with a $4k start. No-one should worry about BAST.
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Best Hairdresser in London, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Oct 15, 2008 22:19:16 GMT 1, is this a fucking joke?
is this a fucking joke?
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