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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 17:49:12 GMT 1, I think these prints are priced where they should be. They are much larger and contain a lot more hand-finishing than the book covers. Sure, the edition is larger if you combine all 3 of the print variations but much more work went into these prints than the book covers. These prints are ever bit as much of an original as the book covers - all of the prints vary with the hand-finishing, etc. The book covers were very small and were essentially a one-color screen on top of a found book cover. There was some nicer collaging underneath on some, but again this was very small compared to the amount of work that went into creating these varied prints. Faile prices their work based on their effort - so that right there is an indication that they personally spent more time creating these prints than the book covers.
As for the image, I like it. More along the lines of what we are accustomed to imagery-wise from Faile. I'm just happy they are hopefully out of that Native American themed work they were doing a few years ago.
I think these prints are priced where they should be. They are much larger and contain a lot more hand-finishing than the book covers. Sure, the edition is larger if you combine all 3 of the print variations but much more work went into these prints than the book covers. These prints are ever bit as much of an original as the book covers - all of the prints vary with the hand-finishing, etc. The book covers were very small and were essentially a one-color screen on top of a found book cover. There was some nicer collaging underneath on some, but again this was very small compared to the amount of work that went into creating these varied prints. Faile prices their work based on their effort - so that right there is an indication that they personally spent more time creating these prints than the book covers.
As for the image, I like it. More along the lines of what we are accustomed to imagery-wise from Faile. I'm just happy they are hopefully out of that Native American themed work they were doing a few years ago.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 17:50:48 GMT 1, thanks lifeonwalls - hmm yeah I think i'd have to agree with that, same physical size & level of hand finishing but the red sub rosa was 2 prints fewer and $150 cheaper.. Maybe every release is creeping up though... I do love this image and at $1500 it would have been in the bag. Now I dunno what to do!! =[
The edtion is higher for these prints if you combine all 3 variations. However, they have a ton more color (and more favorable ones at that) than Sub Rosa. I think the Faile in Paradise is of much greater value.
Great image. I like Yellow the best - fits the intended summertime vibe the best!
thanks lifeonwalls - hmm yeah I think i'd have to agree with that, same physical size & level of hand finishing but the red sub rosa was 2 prints fewer and $150 cheaper.. Maybe every release is creeping up though... I do love this image and at $1500 it would have been in the bag. Now I dunno what to do!! =[ The edtion is higher for these prints if you combine all 3 variations. However, they have a ton more color (and more favorable ones at that) than Sub Rosa. I think the Faile in Paradise is of much greater value. Great image. I like Yellow the best - fits the intended summertime vibe the best! |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by therivler1 on Aug 15, 2012 17:56:19 GMT 1, tons of great older images, with lower edition sizes, available for cheaper.
i think this one will be sticking around for a while.
tons of great older images, with lower edition sizes, available for cheaper.
i think this one will be sticking around for a while.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by vytis33 on Aug 15, 2012 17:57:19 GMT 1, Anxious to see the new release. Would love to see a larger edition with a lower price point.
Guess not.
Anxious to see the new release. Would love to see a larger edition with a lower price point. Guess not. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by twist65 on Aug 15, 2012 17:59:59 GMT 1, yeah I prefer the colours too, and agree with Faile pricing based on effort etc. Difficult to see the hand-finishing compared to the Rosas though but no doubt they will look stunning.
Also glad to see them using a "new" image. Judging by the new originals teased it's more mash-ups of the familiar faces for a little while yet..
yeah I prefer the colours too, and agree with Faile pricing based on effort etc. Difficult to see the hand-finishing compared to the Rosas though but no doubt they will look stunning.
Also glad to see them using a "new" image. Judging by the new originals teased it's more mash-ups of the familiar faces for a little while yet..
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 18:02:21 GMT 1, tons of great older images, with lower edition sizes, available for cheaper. i think this one will be sticking around for a while.
They are definitely priced for collectors of Faile's work, but I still see these being gone within 24 hrs.
tons of great older images, with lower edition sizes, available for cheaper. i think this one will be sticking around for a while. They are definitely priced for collectors of Faile's work, but I still see these being gone within 24 hrs. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Gentle Mental on Aug 15, 2012 18:10:57 GMT 1, these are very very beautiful. possibly one of their best prints with sooo many pretty colours,
i would buy all three!
if i could.
but i can't.
so i kick a small stuff toy against the cold wall.
these are very very beautiful. possibly one of their best prints with sooo many pretty colours,
i would buy all three!
if i could.
but i can't.
so i kick a small stuff toy against the cold wall.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Sundowner on Aug 15, 2012 18:33:46 GMT 1, It's been a while since you could go on their site and have the pick of all the colourways an hour after they dropped.....
It's been a while since you could go on their site and have the pick of all the colourways an hour after they dropped.....
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by mace on Aug 15, 2012 18:39:24 GMT 1, Love the turquoise version. Very tempted. Need my wife to agree, she often has problems with Faile's images. Waiting for her to get home. Where are the times when I could buy art on my own ? Gggrrrrr...
Love the turquoise version. Very tempted. Need my wife to agree, she often has problems with Faile's images. Waiting for her to get home. Where are the times when I could buy art on my own ? Gggrrrrr...
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by pinballwizard on Aug 15, 2012 18:44:12 GMT 1, love em! wish i had the cash
love em! wish i had the cash
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by artfield galleries on Aug 15, 2012 18:51:10 GMT 1, The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought!
The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought!
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by M on Aug 15, 2012 18:59:41 GMT 1, The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought!
well said
The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought! well said |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by M on Aug 15, 2012 19:03:41 GMT 1, 90% of cash going to 10% artists 
90% of cash going to 10% artists |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by lifeonwalls on Aug 15, 2012 19:05:06 GMT 1, Could also be a bit of market being saturated.
Sub-Rosa prints earlier this year along with the book covers and many collectors (myself included) have had my full for the year.
Don't need to be spending $1700+ on something I wouldn't frame.
Will be interested to see if/when these sell out...
Could also be a bit of market being saturated.
Sub-Rosa prints earlier this year along with the book covers and many collectors (myself included) have had my full for the year.
Don't need to be spending $1700+ on something I wouldn't frame.
Will be interested to see if/when these sell out...
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by seqret on Aug 15, 2012 19:06:45 GMT 1, Anyone grabbed this?
Anyone grabbed this?
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Chrisp on Aug 15, 2012 19:16:20 GMT 1, Was not sure about this yesterday, love the colours looks really nice but the price tag just doesnt do it for me. In our market who else gets away with a tag this high? I think its almost taking the piss TBH out of their fans.
It's a piece of screen printed paper with some hand finishing and in total an edition of 60. i am sure a lot will disagree with what i have said though.
And like some one said earlier there are a few better prints by Faile out there that are cheaper in secondary market IMO.
Was not sure about this yesterday, love the colours looks really nice but the price tag just doesnt do it for me. In our market who else gets away with a tag this high? I think its almost taking the piss TBH out of their fans.
It's a piece of screen printed paper with some hand finishing and in total an edition of 60. i am sure a lot will disagree with what i have said though.
And like some one said earlier there are a few better prints by Faile out there that are cheaper in secondary market IMO.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 19:40:58 GMT 1, I think its rubbish anyway.
I think its rubbish anyway.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by skitchy on Aug 15, 2012 19:49:09 GMT 1, I love faile and have followed them for a number of years but their prices have become an absolute joke... (eg. $15k puzzlebox!!) Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future.
I love faile and have followed them for a number of years but their prices have become an absolute joke... (eg. $15k puzzlebox!!) Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by rottenredrooster on Aug 15, 2012 20:56:40 GMT 1, As said previously not a Faile enthusiast, but always enjoy seeing what they produce. I don't think the prints were overpriced, however the customs tax that European buyers will get hit with is off putting.
Not keen on these, but then again never really been keen on any Faile (apart from Strange Encounters which is marvellous).
As said previously not a Faile enthusiast, but always enjoy seeing what they produce. I don't think the prints were overpriced, however the customs tax that European buyers will get hit with is off putting.
Not keen on these, but then again never really been keen on any Faile (apart from Strange Encounters which is marvellous).
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 21:23:46 GMT 1, Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future.
This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity! 
I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be.
Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future. This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity! I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Chrisp on Aug 15, 2012 21:28:47 GMT 1, Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future. This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity! I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be.
Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bullshit!!!
Apart from Hirst i cant think of many artists that sell at market value...something that will come back to haunt them in the future. This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity! I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be. Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bullshit!!! |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 21:28:58 GMT 1, The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought!
I love it when a "gallery" gets on the board and only looks at art in terms of an investment. Yeah, comparing a Faile print to buying a house is such an appropriate comparison. These are beautiful prints and will sell to people who love Faile's work. Faile does not need notice that "times are chaning" - art buyers on the otherhand do need to take notice. The days of flipping Faile are over. And this is great news for Faile collectors. They can now buy without middle men getting in the way such as these "galleries" that can jump on a board and with a little blue start next to their name starting talking out of their pieholes.
The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought! I love it when a "gallery" gets on the board and only looks at art in terms of an investment. Yeah, comparing a Faile print to buying a house is such an appropriate comparison. These are beautiful prints and will sell to people who love Faile's work. Faile does not need notice that "times are chaning" - art buyers on the otherhand do need to take notice. The days of flipping Faile are over. And this is great news for Faile collectors. They can now buy without middle men getting in the way such as these "galleries" that can jump on a board and with a little blue start next to their name starting talking out of their pieholes. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by twist65 on Aug 15, 2012 22:21:22 GMT 1, have to say I agree with Artfield, and the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money... Just because its a beautiful print doesn't mean you shouldn't think about the financial side of things too. I've had a good few hours to mull this over now, and gonna pass for now. Have loved the image since I first saw it, but I can't see them being loads more on the secondary market if I change my mind. Great point by RRR re the import tax too. Add that on top of the print price and cost of a really good framing job and there's a LOT else I could buy with that £££.
They mention upcoming shows/projects in the autumn and early 2013, and who knows if there's more (affordable) online releases lined up soon. Plus classic Faile images frequently on ebay for much less than this. Reckon its a buyers market for Faile at the moment so gonna take my time!
have to say I agree with Artfield, and the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money... Just because its a beautiful print doesn't mean you shouldn't think about the financial side of things too. I've had a good few hours to mull this over now, and gonna pass for now. Have loved the image since I first saw it, but I can't see them being loads more on the secondary market if I change my mind. Great point by RRR re the import tax too. Add that on top of the print price and cost of a really good framing job and there's a LOT else I could buy with that £££.
They mention upcoming shows/projects in the autumn and early 2013, and who knows if there's more (affordable) online releases lined up soon. Plus classic Faile images frequently on ebay for much less than this. Reckon its a buyers market for Faile at the moment so gonna take my time!
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by amsterdam9697 on Aug 15, 2012 22:22:28 GMT 1, Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!!
^ THIS is so spot-on and very telling of what the (street) art market has become of late. What the hell ever happened to pricing that long-time fans can afford without having to juggle their Christmas budgets? And why would you charge OVER-market prices?
Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!! ^ THIS is so spot-on and very telling of what the (street) art market has become of late. What the hell ever happened to pricing that long-time fans can afford without having to juggle their Christmas budgets? And why would you charge OVER-market prices? |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by chaserawr on Aug 15, 2012 22:25:14 GMT 1, As a Faile collector, I definitely feel like the market is a bit saturated. Seems like all the older collectors are wanting to get originals and it leaves little room for more prints. I'd much rather see under priced prints to create some more hype for them. Selling prints for market value isn't always the best for 'true' collectors.
As a Faile collector, I definitely feel like the market is a bit saturated. Seems like all the older collectors are wanting to get originals and it leaves little room for more prints. I'd much rather see under priced prints to create some more hype for them. Selling prints for market value isn't always the best for 'true' collectors.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by M on Aug 15, 2012 22:29:54 GMT 1, yep, who said that collectors should be rich?
yep, who said that collectors should be rich?
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 22:33:45 GMT 1, the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money
Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums.
the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Chrisp on Aug 15, 2012 22:44:20 GMT 1, It must boil down to the love of money at the end of the day, why else would they charge so much for a print with some hand finishing?
I do not own a Faile but from what I can see and have read a lot of the prints are heavily hand finished and in small editions but does this command these figures from source. Secondary market price should deservedly gain but only if the print is in high demand due to its quality, edition size and most importantly the image.
It must boil down to the love of money at the end of the day, why else would they charge so much for a print with some hand finishing?
I do not own a Faile but from what I can see and have read a lot of the prints are heavily hand finished and in small editions but does this command these figures from source. Secondary market price should deservedly gain but only if the print is in high demand due to its quality, edition size and most importantly the image.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by twist65 on Aug 15, 2012 22:45:34 GMT 1, the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums.
Well you're coming across like a "serious Faile collector" and you've spent all day reading art forums...
Judging by your vehement defence of their pricing, which the majority believe is over market value, i'd suspect you had quite a few prints or originals tucked away. If they're using these online releases to inch up their prices, then no wonder you feel this is "great news for Faile collectors..."
the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums. Well you're coming across like a "serious Faile collector" and you've spent all day reading art forums... Judging by your vehement defence of their pricing, which the majority believe is over market value, i'd suspect you had quite a few prints or originals tucked away. If they're using these online releases to inch up their prices, then no wonder you feel this is "great news for Faile collectors..." |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 22:47:16 GMT 1, Could be that they just need some cash for something quick like house repairs or an extension or something? so they were just sat there worrying about it and thought they would knock out a few prints to cover it?, good idea really i suppose!, bring on the coffee cup stains the lot!.
Could be that they just need some cash for something quick like house repairs or an extension or something? so they were just sat there worrying about it and thought they would knock out a few prints to cover it?, good idea really i suppose!, bring on the coffee cup stains the lot!.
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