Chrisp
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Chrisp on Aug 15, 2012 22:48:35 GMT 1, the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums.
Total rubbish!
the fact that they're all still available suggests there's less than 60 Faile collectors who think they're worth the money Yeah, because no collectors of Faile have jobs where they can't monitor daily releases on a computer. I'd say most of the people that seriously collect their work and buy large originals are the types of people who don't spend all day reading art forums. Total rubbish! |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by ncewnimw on Aug 15, 2012 22:49:23 GMT 1, As said previously not a Faile enthusiast, but always enjoy seeing what they produce. I don't think the prints were overpriced, however the customs tax that European buyers will get hit with is off putting. Not keen on these, but then again never really been keen on any Faile (apart from Strange Encounters which is marvellous).
No need to worry about the custom taxes on these.
I've bought several prints from Faile past years and the Patricks are very nice when it comes to puting customs value to things.
I.e. my Sub Rosa black was sent with a value tag of $200, which cost me app $35 in custom fees.
As said previously not a Faile enthusiast, but always enjoy seeing what they produce. I don't think the prints were overpriced, however the customs tax that European buyers will get hit with is off putting. Not keen on these, but then again never really been keen on any Faile (apart from Strange Encounters which is marvellous). No need to worry about the custom taxes on these. I've bought several prints from Faile past years and the Patricks are very nice when it comes to puting customs value to things. I.e. my Sub Rosa black was sent with a value tag of $200, which cost me app $35 in custom fees. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by chaserawr on Aug 15, 2012 22:49:29 GMT 1, This image is great the timing is not.
This image is great the timing is not.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by nah on Aug 15, 2012 23:27:51 GMT 1, This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity!  I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be. Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!!
why should they be obliged to sell work cheap just because they happen to have done street work?
the fact this print hasn't sold out straight away means absolutely nothing, there are plenty of fine art prints (fairly priced ones at that) that have been around for literally years, it's only in this little bubble that an instant sellout seem to be a make/break thing. once you start selling large originals at the sorts of prices they do you can't really do the "large affordable hand finished edition" thing anymore unless you want to make the rest of your pricing look like a joke
This is such a ridiculous and uninformed statement to make. Good heavens - artists selling their own work at market value so nobody makes money off of them! The sanity! I applaud Faile for releasing the prints at their proper value. They are rewarded for their own work just as they should be. Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!! why should they be obliged to sell work cheap just because they happen to have done street work? the fact this print hasn't sold out straight away means absolutely nothing, there are plenty of fine art prints (fairly priced ones at that) that have been around for literally years, it's only in this little bubble that an instant sellout seem to be a make/break thing. once you start selling large originals at the sorts of prices they do you can't really do the "large affordable hand finished edition" thing anymore unless you want to make the rest of your pricing look like a joke |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 15, 2012 23:45:51 GMT 1, Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!! why should they be obliged to sell work cheap just because they happen to have done street work? the fact this print hasn't sold out straight away means absolutely nothing, there are plenty of fine art prints (fairly priced ones at that) that have been around for literally years, it's only in this little bubble that an instant sellout seem to be a make/break thing. once you start selling large originals at the sorts of prices they do you can't really do the "large affordable hand finished edition" thing anymore unless you want to make the rest of your pricing look like a joke
Amen. At least somebody else gets it.
Street artists that no one from any normal street can afford, what bulls**t!!! why should they be obliged to sell work cheap just because they happen to have done street work? the fact this print hasn't sold out straight away means absolutely nothing, there are plenty of fine art prints (fairly priced ones at that) that have been around for literally years, it's only in this little bubble that an instant sellout seem to be a make/break thing. once you start selling large originals at the sorts of prices they do you can't really do the "large affordable hand finished edition" thing anymore unless you want to make the rest of your pricing look like a joke Amen. At least somebody else gets it. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by maseo7 on Aug 16, 2012 1:59:40 GMT 1, Hey chaserawr,
Is that your HE on hangup-pics for sale? 
Hey chaserawr, Is that your HE on hangup-pics for sale? |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by tomega on Aug 16, 2012 2:19:07 GMT 1, Over a decade ago I bought a Terry Frost print for £1500. Even though it was a lot of money I was happy to part with my money for an image by an artist I really liked and it was of an image I liked a lot. When I bought it the idea that it may increase in value wasn't mentioned by the gallery who sold me the print and nor was it thought of by myself. I just wanted it and the only way i could have it was to pay the asking price. I still have the print on my wall and I still have no intention of selling it. If someone told me that today it would now only cost half the price to buy, well that wouldn't matter to me as i bought it at a time when it did cost £1500 and over the past 12 yrs i have enjoyed it on my wall and will continue to do so. People seem happy to pay a couple of thousand pounds on a three piece suite which simply falls apart after years of use and are happy to chuck it out and replace with a new one. Personally, I would rather sit on some wooden crates and have some nice art to look at. The Patricks have created some nice pieces here and the hand finishing and low edition is a bonus and whilst a little over £1100 is a lot of money I personally don't think the asking price is too much. Obviously if you don't have that kind of money but you'd really like to own one i can appreciate how that's a problem. If you are simply after some work by Faile then there is the secondary market in which Faile prints are available at much less than this price. As has already been alluded to Faile are represented by top gallery in US so work like this won't likely ever be sold at low prices. Bottom line is, and if you can afford it, its all to do with how much you want the art. Back in 2000 i really wanted my Terry Frost so i paid the money. Just my thoughts on the pricing issue.
Over a decade ago I bought a Terry Frost print for £1500. Even though it was a lot of money I was happy to part with my money for an image by an artist I really liked and it was of an image I liked a lot. When I bought it the idea that it may increase in value wasn't mentioned by the gallery who sold me the print and nor was it thought of by myself. I just wanted it and the only way i could have it was to pay the asking price. I still have the print on my wall and I still have no intention of selling it. If someone told me that today it would now only cost half the price to buy, well that wouldn't matter to me as i bought it at a time when it did cost £1500 and over the past 12 yrs i have enjoyed it on my wall and will continue to do so. People seem happy to pay a couple of thousand pounds on a three piece suite which simply falls apart after years of use and are happy to chuck it out and replace with a new one. Personally, I would rather sit on some wooden crates and have some nice art to look at. The Patricks have created some nice pieces here and the hand finishing and low edition is a bonus and whilst a little over £1100 is a lot of money I personally don't think the asking price is too much. Obviously if you don't have that kind of money but you'd really like to own one i can appreciate how that's a problem. If you are simply after some work by Faile then there is the secondary market in which Faile prints are available at much less than this price. As has already been alluded to Faile are represented by top gallery in US so work like this won't likely ever be sold at low prices. Bottom line is, and if you can afford it, its all to do with how much you want the art. Back in 2000 i really wanted my Terry Frost so i paid the money. Just my thoughts on the pricing issue.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by nex on Aug 16, 2012 3:24:45 GMT 1, So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother.
So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by tomega on Aug 16, 2012 3:48:33 GMT 1, Very succinctly put - much better than my warblings.
Very succinctly put - much better than my warblings.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by artylang on Aug 16, 2012 5:01:23 GMT 1, it's not a bad thing that they didnt sell out immediately. You can buy far more important artists print's for far more money from source that have sat around for years. They haev work out there at all price points. If you want a large, color, hand finished print, it will cost you 1750, apparently.
it's not a bad thing that they didnt sell out immediately. You can buy far more important artists print's for far more money from source that have sat around for years. They haev work out there at all price points. If you want a large, color, hand finished print, it will cost you 1750, apparently.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by sakyamuni on Aug 16, 2012 7:30:03 GMT 1, i have no plan to buy it but i like the yellow edition. Price is a bit high but that gives time to think and decide if you REALLY want it. Better than f5 battle.... ;D
i have no plan to buy it but i like the yellow edition. Price is a bit high but that gives time to think and decide if you REALLY want it. Better than f5 battle.... ;D
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deux Spin on Aug 16, 2012 8:05:25 GMT 1, One of my favorite Faile images, and the colour-way / composition of the yellow is stunning! Not sure I'll be able to help myself.
One of my favorite Faile images, and the colour-way / composition of the yellow is stunning! Not sure I'll be able to help myself.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 8:22:50 GMT 1, So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother.
Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon.
So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother. Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Happy Shopper on Aug 16, 2012 8:28:23 GMT 1, Love the Yellow.
I have a feeling that these are overpriced though. Much more colours than Sub Rosa, but a MUCH larger edition. 60 is half way to a Paper Monster release! Edition of 30 and these would have felt more appealing.
There seems to be this thing where more colours equals higher cost, regardless of image (and sometimes edition size!).
Love the Yellow.
I have a feeling that these are overpriced though. Much more colours than Sub Rosa, but a MUCH larger edition. 60 is half way to a Paper Monster release! Edition of 30 and these would have felt more appealing.
There seems to be this thing where more colours equals higher cost, regardless of image (and sometimes edition size!).
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Shoot Again on Aug 16, 2012 8:31:29 GMT 1, The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought! I love it when a "gallery" gets on the board and only looks at art in terms of an investment. Yeah, comparing a Faile print to buying a house is such an appropriate comparison. These are beautiful prints and will sell to people who love Faile's work. Faile does not need notice that "times are chaning" - art buyers on the otherhand do need to take notice. The days of flipping Faile are over. And this is great news for Faile collectors. They can now buy without middle men getting in the way such as these "galleries" that can jump on a board and with a little blue start next to their name starting talking out of their pieholes.
Totally agree with you thetruth55... +1 from me ;-)
The Market for Faile has been dropping for some time. They are good quality prints and of a high standard, but in these times, the prices are unjust. If these were flippable these would be gone, simply because people would buy to flip them. I would disagree that they are priced correctly for Faile collectors, if this was the case, they would have been snapped up rather more quickly than this, after all there is only 60 in total. All in all, buying a print is for love, but at these high prices people will not buy to see their investment decline in value, almost instantly. Times are changing Faile. Most people will buy in the hope that their investment will at least retain its value. You wouldn;t buy a house for 100k if you knew it would be worht 80k one week later, just a thought! I love it when a "gallery" gets on the board and only looks at art in terms of an investment. Yeah, comparing a Faile print to buying a house is such an appropriate comparison. These are beautiful prints and will sell to people who love Faile's work. Faile does not need notice that "times are chaning" - art buyers on the otherhand do need to take notice. The days of flipping Faile are over. And this is great news for Faile collectors. They can now buy without middle men getting in the way such as these "galleries" that can jump on a board and with a little blue start next to their name starting talking out of their pieholes. Totally agree with you thetruth55... +1 from me ;-) |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by misterx on Aug 16, 2012 9:04:14 GMT 1, Also, in fairness to Faile, has anybody actually seen these prints in the flesh?
Who knows, maybe the hand finishing is extensive and adds so much to the print that it is more than worth the price? They might be amazing value! The jpegs offer me nothing about how the print may actually look...
Seems like a lot of upset folk complaining about their Tikka Masala's being too hot before they've even tasted 'em!
Also, in fairness to Faile, has anybody actually seen these prints in the flesh?
Who knows, maybe the hand finishing is extensive and adds so much to the print that it is more than worth the price? They might be amazing value! The jpegs offer me nothing about how the print may actually look...
Seems like a lot of upset folk complaining about their Tikka Masala's being too hot before they've even tasted 'em!
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by 1978per on Aug 16, 2012 9:26:15 GMT 1, I think it looks great and will probably look even better in real life and a good frame. I especially like the turquoise version. Don't have the money to spend though.
I think it looks great and will probably look even better in real life and a good frame. I especially like the turquoise version. Don't have the money to spend though.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by searchandrescue on Aug 16, 2012 10:29:06 GMT 1, nice tone tomega +1
nice tone tomega +1
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 20:28:42 GMT 1, So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother. Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon.
The structure of your post Wiz makes me think you're being sarcy, but at the same time I'm not sure you are......
I don't see why artists should sell their work for less than market value just to create a 'following' or hype and Faile have moved beyond this.
Why should they line the pockets of armchair experts and speculators?
So in translation if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother. Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon. The structure of your post Wiz makes me think you're being sarcy, but at the same time I'm not sure you are...... I don't see why artists should sell their work for less than market value just to create a 'following' or hype and Faile have moved beyond this. Why should they line the pockets of armchair experts and speculators? |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Johnnyroyale on Aug 16, 2012 20:46:31 GMT 1, ....if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother.
that would make a great print
Only gripe, would be nice if Faile had a UK outlet so i could grab one with an own art loan 
....if you like it and have the money buy it. If you don't like it and want to sell it on to make some profit don't bother. that would make a great print Only gripe, would be nice if Faile had a UK outlet so i could grab one with an own art loan |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 23:09:13 GMT 1, Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon. The structure of your post Wiz makes me think you're being sarcy, but at the same time I'm not sure you are...... I don't see why artists should sell their work for less than market value just to create a 'following' or hype and Faile have moved beyond this. Why should they line the pockets of armchair experts and speculators?
Dont think i was being sarcastic Lurkers but to be honest i cant even remember that post!, buy if you can and dont if you cannot seems ok to me, we would all like the things we want to come at a better price i reckon but thats not how it happens?.
Proper, Faile should plonk that on their site, it says it all i reckon. The structure of your post Wiz makes me think you're being sarcy, but at the same time I'm not sure you are...... I don't see why artists should sell their work for less than market value just to create a 'following' or hype and Faile have moved beyond this. Why should they line the pockets of armchair experts and speculators? Dont think i was being sarcastic Lurkers but to be honest i cant even remember that post!, buy if you can and dont if you cannot seems ok to me, we would all like the things we want to come at a better price i reckon but thats not how it happens?. |
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Aug 18, 2012 1:09:22 GMT 1, Purple SOLD OUT first.
Purple SOLD OUT first.
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New Faile Prints 15th August, by thetruth55 on Sept 17, 2012 17:51:30 GMT 1, Anybody else get these prints and have pictures to share?
Anybody else get these prints and have pictures to share?
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