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Hamburgers, by chyren on Dec 10, 2012 20:06:56 GMT 1, Are you fu.cking shitti.ng me
Westminster city council is taking action over the freedom to choose how your burger is done, with other local authorities expected to follow suit.
A number of celebrity chefs are affected by the move, including Gordon Ramsay, whose Maze Grill restaurant sells a burger for ยฃ12, Angela Hartnett, whose York and Albanyโs bar menu includes burgers, and the Soho House chain, run by Nick Jones, the husband of broadcaster Kirsty Young.
All face being asked at their next routine inspection how they offer their burgers.
Critics fear it could lead to questions over the safety of rare steaks and raw meat dishes such as steak tartare. The policy is to be the subject of a legal ruling.
After routine inspections by environmental health officers, Westminster council challenged the way Davyโs was serving its ยฃ13.95 burgers at one of its restaurants in central London. Davyโs has taken the case to the High Court, which experts say could set a legal precedent as to whether or not diners will be able to order meat rare.
A Davyโs spokesman said: โThe burgers are produced from high quality ingredients and Davyโs contends that it has safe measures in place to serve rare or medium-rare burgers.โ
James Armitage, the councilโs food health and safety manager, said: โThis is about making sure customers are eating meat that is not a threat to their health. It is possible to produce burgers that can be eaten undercooked, but strict controls are essential.
โWe have enlisted the UKโs top expert on E. coli, Prof Hugh Pennington, to get this matter resolved and he has outlined that rare minced meat that is not correctly cooked and prepared can kill.โ
But John Cadieux, the executive head chef for the Burger and Lobster chain, said: โIf you follow the guidelines to the letter then youโre going to destroy the burger industry.
โNot only that but youโre opening a Pandoraโs box, because where do you finish? Steak tartare, runny eggs โฆ the list is endless.โ
According to the Food Standards Agency (FSA), there are no rules banning the sale of raw or rare meat by restaurants or caterers.
Tony Lewis, of the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health, said: the case would have โnationwide implicationsโ.
โAt present the guidance from the FSA is that for burgers the meat should be cooked at 158F (70C) for two minutes,โ he said. โIf Westminster loses the case we will have to reassess.โ
Are you fu.cking shitti.ng me Westminster city council is taking action over the freedom to choose how your burger is done, with other local authorities expected to follow suit. A number of celebrity chefs are affected by the move, including Gordon Ramsay, whose Maze Grill restaurant sells a burger for ยฃ12, Angela Hartnett, whose York and Albanyโs bar menu includes burgers, and the Soho House chain, run by Nick Jones, the husband of broadcaster Kirsty Young. All face being asked at their next routine inspection how they offer their burgers. Critics fear it could lead to questions over the safety of rare steaks and raw meat dishes such as steak tartare. The policy is to be the subject of a legal ruling. After routine inspections by environmental health officers, Westminster council challenged the way Davyโs was serving its ยฃ13.95 burgers at one of its restaurants in central London. Davyโs has taken the case to the High Court, which experts say could set a legal precedent as to whether or not diners will be able to order meat rare. A Davyโs spokesman said: โThe burgers are produced from high quality ingredients and Davyโs contends that it has safe measures in place to serve rare or medium-rare burgers.โ James Armitage, the councilโs food health and safety manager, said: โThis is about making sure customers are eating meat that is not a threat to their health. It is possible to produce burgers that can be eaten undercooked, but strict controls are essential. โWe have enlisted the UKโs top expert on E. coli, Prof Hugh Pennington, to get this matter resolved and he has outlined that rare minced meat that is not correctly cooked and prepared can kill.โ But John Cadieux, the executive head chef for the Burger and Lobster chain, said: โIf you follow the guidelines to the letter then youโre going to destroy the burger industry. โNot only that but youโre opening a Pandoraโs box, because where do you finish? Steak tartare, runny eggs โฆ the list is endless.โ According to the Food Standards Agency (FSA), there are no rules banning the sale of raw or rare meat by restaurants or caterers. Tony Lewis, of the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health, said: the case would have โnationwide implicationsโ. โAt present the guidance from the FSA is that for burgers the meat should be cooked at 158F (70C) for two minutes,โ he said. โIf Westminster loses the case we will have to reassess.โ
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letiss
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Hamburgers, by letiss on Dec 10, 2012 20:12:15 GMT 1, This would've been a fitting 1000th post. Ah well, just one off.
This would've been a fitting 1000th post. Ah well, just one off.
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Hamburgers, by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 21:42:58 GMT 1, Fear of e. coli is one of the most ridiculous things in our society. Yes it can kill, but only in some very rare (pun) cases
Fear of e. coli is one of the most ridiculous things in our society. Yes it can kill, but only in some very rare (pun) cases
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Hamburgers, by londonboy on Jun 18, 2016 4:07:03 GMT 1, Mighty bump..
Sh!t got real!!!
Got a work mail saying than from now on all our burgers and sliders will HAVE to be cooked well done.
Bye bye juicy burgers ;(
Mighty bump..
Sh!t got real!!!
Got a work mail saying than from now on all our burgers and sliders will HAVE to be cooked well done.
Bye bye juicy burgers ;(
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Hamburgers, by daniel3886 on Jun 18, 2016 13:42:49 GMT 1, I read that the Chiltern Firehouse have removed their burger from their menu as the council wouldn't let them serve their burgers medium rare. Does this mean no Steak Tartar or carpaccio? Sad times! Health and safety is killing meat enjoyment. Wonder weather it's an EU directive? I'd be willing to sign a disclaimer to get some moisture in my burger!
I read that the Chiltern Firehouse have removed their burger from their menu as the council wouldn't let them serve their burgers medium rare. Does this mean no Steak Tartar or carpaccio? Sad times! Health and safety is killing meat enjoyment. Wonder weather it's an EU directive? I'd be willing to sign a disclaimer to get some moisture in my burger!
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Hamburgers, by mutatis on Jun 18, 2016 15:00:06 GMT 1, It's official then Meat is Murder
It's official then Meat is Murder
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