Adam Neate - 'Dimensional Editions & Paintings' , by Rude Copper on Sept 23, 2012 20:15:50 GMT 1, ill-informed horse shit like this is one of the reasons i dont post anymore, elms were around in the graffiti & counter culture scene, long before banksy & lazarides led the charge, & when the chaos began, they had a duty to their artists to sell at the correct market rate, which was determined by the amount of demand, & demand was very heavy.
I can assure you that adam, jose parla, ron english et al, were not bothered by the prices their work was being sold for, they had all lived through lean times, & were enjoying their moment in the sun.
Sure they made mistakes along the way, but paul & fiona are people who were always driven by the the product rather than the profit, & do not in anyway deserve the sort of mindless babble you have written here.

Sept 23, 2012 0:39:53 GMT 1 @m909 said:

Sept 11, 2012 21:47:44 GMT 1 risky said:

What an incredibly ignorant comment.

An ignorant comment? Really?

From my view, I saw them jump in and really, really screw up a bunch of their former artists' markets by pricing amazingly aggressively, creating a hollow. I then saw them state, outright and explicitly, that they did not take part in the secondary market for their artists - at all. No placement, no assisting clients in moving on works, no 'protecting' their artists' young careers at auction. Nothing proper gallerists do all of the time. Finally, I saw all their artists leave to proper galleries and be forced to spend several years attempting to rebuild their markets. Not all have been successful.

Like a slumlord, they collected checks but did little in return for either their patrons or their artists.

Fortunately, they are largely a fading memory of urban/street art's silly season of 2005-2008 or so.

ill-informed horse shit like this is one of the reasons i dont post anymore, elms were around in the graffiti & counter culture scene, long before banksy & lazarides led the charge, & when the chaos began, they had a duty to their artists to sell at the correct market rate, which was determined by the amount of demand, & demand was very heavy.
I can assure you that adam, jose parla, ron english et al, were not bothered by the prices their work was being sold for, they had all lived through lean times, & were enjoying their moment in the sun.
Sure they made mistakes along the way, but paul & fiona are people who were always driven by the the product rather than the profit, & do not in anyway deserve the sort of mindless babble you have written here.

Sept 23, 2012 0:39:53 GMT 1 @m909 said:

Sept 11, 2012 21:47:44 GMT 1 risky said:

What an incredibly ignorant comment.

An ignorant comment? Really?

From my view, I saw them jump in and really, really screw up a bunch of their former artists' markets by pricing amazingly aggressively, creating a hollow. I then saw them state, outright and explicitly, that they did not take part in the secondary market for their artists - at all. No placement, no assisting clients in moving on works, no 'protecting' their artists' young careers at auction. Nothing proper gallerists do all of the time. Finally, I saw all their artists leave to proper galleries and be forced to spend several years attempting to rebuild their markets. Not all have been successful.

Like a slumlord, they collected checks but did little in return for either their patrons or their artists.

Fortunately, they are largely a fading memory of urban/street art's silly season of 2005-2008 or so.