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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 11:53:56 GMT 1
nola!!, by djj on Jan 21, 2013 11:53:56 GMT 1, Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails.
Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ?
Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails.
Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ?
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longshanks
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 11:55:05 GMT 1
nola!!, by longshanks on Jan 21, 2013 11:55:05 GMT 1, im interested.....
im interested.....
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DrWhite
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 12:01:25 GMT 1
nola!!, by DrWhite on Jan 21, 2013 12:01:25 GMT 1, Ho ho - your pm box is going to be overflowing ;D
Enjoy !!
Ho ho - your pm box is going to be overflowing ;D
Enjoy !!
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 12:06:04 GMT 1
nola!!, by Sundowner on Jan 21, 2013 12:06:04 GMT 1, Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails. Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ?
ยฃ6.5k if you are lucky....
Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails. Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ? ยฃ6.5k if you are lucky.... |
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DrWhite
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 12:13:41 GMT 1
nola!!, by DrWhite on Jan 21, 2013 12:13:41 GMT 1, Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails. Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ? ยฃ6.5k if you are lucky....
Really ? Id thought more with all the wants on here. might have a pm then 
Needs must,nola white, original owner from pow. Pest control & pow emails. Never framed & stored flat. Uk sale only, how much ? ยฃ6.5k if you are lucky.... Really ? Id thought more with all the wants on here. might have a pm then |
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 12:17:18 GMT 1
nola!!, by Winter on Jan 21, 2013 12:17:18 GMT 1, More than 6.5k
More than 6.5k
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 12:25:50 GMT 1
nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 12:25:50 GMT 1,
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:07:32 GMT 1
nola!!, by Pistol on Jan 21, 2013 14:07:32 GMT 1,
One sold on ebay about a wek ago for 6.3k
One sold on ebay about a wek ago for 6.3k |
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:11:14 GMT 1
nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 14:11:14 GMT 1,
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:16:56 GMT 1
nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 14:16:56 GMT 1, Can anybody point to a comparison that suggests these prints are worth more thZn ยฃ6500?
It is only those with a vested interest that try to Inflate the price of this print to ridiculous levels!
Namely around ยฃ8-10k ! Get real guys there's hundreds of these in various colours..
Can anybody point to a comparison that suggests these prints are worth more thZn ยฃ6500?
It is only those with a vested interest that try to Inflate the price of this print to ridiculous levels!
Namely around ยฃ8-10k ! Get real guys there's hundreds of these in various colours..
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Sundowner
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:48:33 GMT 1
nola!!, by Sundowner on Jan 21, 2013 14:48:33 GMT 1, Galleries are selling these at about ยฃ8k....
Galleries are selling these at about ยฃ8k....
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:51:38 GMT 1
nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 14:51:38 GMT 1, Yeah and they have overheads and are normally much higher than private sales.. I don't think any private seller will be paying 40% tax and 20% VAT on the profits
Yeah and they have overheads and are normally much higher than private sales.. I don't think any private seller will be paying 40% tax and 20% VAT on the profits
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 14:54:55 GMT 1
nola!!, by johnnyh on Jan 21, 2013 14:54:55 GMT 1, Einstein you see the odd one go cheaper but there ain't many and 6500 k from eBay is more risk than I would take. Ps I am not selling a piece just commenting on what seems to go by.
Einstein you see the odd one go cheaper but there ain't many and 6500 k from eBay is more risk than I would take. Ps I am not selling a piece just commenting on what seems to go by.
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:00:03 GMT 1
nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 15:00:03 GMT 1, That's my point ! There are none to compare prices on so where does the value of ยฃ8-ยฃ10k come from?
All we have is what someone is willing to sell for/buy for which recently is ยฃ6300. If one or two start selling on here at ยฃ8k or more then that's different. Or ยฃ10k retail .
That's my point ! There are none to compare prices on so where does the value of ยฃ8-ยฃ10k come from?
All we have is what someone is willing to sell for/buy for which recently is ยฃ6300. If one or two start selling on here at ยฃ8k or more then that's different. Or ยฃ10k retail .
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:01:43 GMT 1
nola!!, by craigf on Jan 21, 2013 15:01:43 GMT 1, VAT on art is subject in some cases VAT margin schemes. Specifically if a piece of art is purchased on the secondry market the gallery only pays VAT on the margin between what it cost them and what they sold it for
If we assume a selling price of ยฃ8k and that they paid ยฃ5k and use very simple maths the VAT on the margin is around ยฃ600 leaving a ยฃ2.4k gross profit before running costs etc. Small businesses do not pay corporation tax at 40%, they will range between 20% and 23%. This will be after costs etc. and again will be on the profir earned. With zero running costs to offset they will pay circa ยฃ600 VAT and ยฃ500 tax leaving a ยฃ1,900 post tax profit.
This doesn't answer the price question, but gives a perspective on the way the revenue would claw profit from the gallery
VAT on art is subject in some cases VAT margin schemes. Specifically if a piece of art is purchased on the secondry market the gallery only pays VAT on the margin between what it cost them and what they sold it for
If we assume a selling price of ยฃ8k and that they paid ยฃ5k and use very simple maths the VAT on the margin is around ยฃ600 leaving a ยฃ2.4k gross profit before running costs etc. Small businesses do not pay corporation tax at 40%, they will range between 20% and 23%. This will be after costs etc. and again will be on the profir earned. With zero running costs to offset they will pay circa ยฃ600 VAT and ยฃ500 tax leaving a ยฃ1,900 post tax profit.
This doesn't answer the price question, but gives a perspective on the way the revenue would claw profit from the gallery
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:06:54 GMT 1
nola!!, by craigf on Jan 21, 2013 15:06:54 GMT 1, btw, great print, you will be answering pm's all day ;D
btw, great print, you will be answering pm's all day ;D
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:11:35 GMT 1
nola!!, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 21, 2013 15:11:35 GMT 1, craigf... nice fiscal analysis of small biz margins 
craigf... nice fiscal analysis of small biz margins |
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:16:59 GMT 1
nola!!, by johnnyh on Jan 21, 2013 15:16:59 GMT 1, Einstein it's very limited and very sought after. So it's price is higher etc. only takes couple of auctions etc and its on the rise however in all honesty it has been these sorts of prices for some while in the threads and any I have seen. To be fair people do not seem willing to sell cheaply eg if I ain't getting that I'll keep it
Einstein it's very limited and very sought after. So it's price is higher etc. only takes couple of auctions etc and its on the rise however in all honesty it has been these sorts of prices for some while in the threads and any I have seen. To be fair people do not seem willing to sell cheaply eg if I ain't getting that I'll keep it
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:17:49 GMT 1
nola!!, by DrWhite on Jan 21, 2013 15:17:49 GMT 1, Yes Craigf - nicely summarised ! Never assume knowledge, now even I understand the principles of running a small business 
Yes Craigf - nicely summarised ! Never assume knowledge, now even I understand the principles of running a small business |
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:41:00 GMT 1
nola!!, by dotdot on Jan 21, 2013 15:41:00 GMT 1, djj - you might want to think about
cash + other signed print (b)
then at least you still have something signed for the wall.
..just a thought.
djj - you might want to think about
cash + other signed print (b)
then at least you still have something signed for the wall.
..just a thought.
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:46:35 GMT 1
nola!!, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 21, 2013 15:46:35 GMT 1, ^^ Or just cash + nothing
then at least you have a load of cash
^^ Or just cash + nothing then at least you have a load of cash |
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DrWhite
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 15:57:04 GMT 1
nola!!, by DrWhite on Jan 21, 2013 15:57:04 GMT 1, Go for the CASH !
Go for the CASH !
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 16:07:03 GMT 1
nola!!, by twist65 on Jan 21, 2013 16:07:03 GMT 1, I can give you nothing! but i'd go for the cash too...
for what its worth I think its as JohnnyH says, it's a much sought after print so people tend to stick to their guns on price. And fair enough too. At the end of the day its a piece of paper thats worth what someone will pay for it, if the buyer wants 8k and you think it's worth 6k then don't buy it...
I can give you nothing! but i'd go for the cash too...
for what its worth I think its as JohnnyH says, it's a much sought after print so people tend to stick to their guns on price. And fair enough too. At the end of the day its a piece of paper thats worth what someone will pay for it, if the buyer wants 8k and you think it's worth 6k then don't buy it...
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 16:19:12 GMT 1
nola!!, by redfred on Jan 21, 2013 16:19:12 GMT 1, I think the trouble why there are few sellers is that it is one of the few prints that seeems to rise in price every year whereas most of them seem to just bump along at the same price year after year. In other words from its history it is a good investment piece plus it is a very wall friendly image. You have to be talking 25% rise per year, so unless you need the cash then it doesnt make sence to move it on!
I think the trouble why there are few sellers is that it is one of the few prints that seeems to rise in price every year whereas most of them seem to just bump along at the same price year after year. In other words from its history it is a good investment piece plus it is a very wall friendly image. You have to be talking 25% rise per year, so unless you need the cash then it doesnt make sence to move it on!
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 17:21:15 GMT 1
nola!!, by love on Jan 21, 2013 17:21:15 GMT 1, ยฃ6k is still too expensive and please stop talking prices up. Never heard about a 8 k nola on that forum or ever saw one for that price on ebay. They sell for 5.5k to 6.3 k and stop dreaming about 25% a year.
ยฃ6k is still too expensive and please stop talking prices up. Never heard about a 8 k nola on that forum or ever saw one for that price on ebay. They sell for 5.5k to 6.3 k and stop dreaming about 25% a year.
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 17:26:56 GMT 1
nola!!, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2013 17:26:56 GMT 1, 2013-01-12$10162.80 eBay
2012-06-19 $8074.17 eBay
2012-05-07 $8000.00 CPO
2012-01-30 $7135.20 eBay
2011-06-05 $8181.50 eBay
***Framed (not counted)
2011-04-10 $10643.05 eBay
2011-04-10 $9520.92
2013-01-12$10162.80 eBay
2012-06-19 $8074.17 eBay
2012-05-07 $8000.00 CPO
2012-01-30 $7135.20 eBay
2011-06-05 $8181.50 eBay
***Framed (not counted)
2011-04-10 $10643.05 eBay
2011-04-10 $9520.92
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DrWhite
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 18:19:49 GMT 1
nola!!, by DrWhite on Jan 21, 2013 18:19:49 GMT 1, I made it clear in another thread relating to Nola that I would pay ยฃ6.3k, after the eBay sale at that price & got no response whatsoever.
I made it clear in another thread relating to Nola that I would pay ยฃ6.3k, after the eBay sale at that price & got no response whatsoever.
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 19:01:44 GMT 1
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nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 19:01:44 GMT 1, Again those with a vested interest are the ones bigging up this print!!
I still have not been offered any comparisons as to a higher price on this print as my original thread stated...
I still await this but won't hold my breath.
It's. a ยฃ6500 print guys ! Get over it ..
Again those with a vested interest are the ones bigging up this print!!
I still have not been offered any comparisons as to a higher price on this print as my original thread stated...
I still await this but won't hold my breath.
It's. a ยฃ6500 print guys ! Get over it ..
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 19:02:30 GMT 1
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nola!!, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 19:02:30 GMT 1, Ps just as no one is offering a print for sale at ยฃ6300 I don't see anyone offering ยฃ8k to buy one ??!!
Ps just as no one is offering a print for sale at ยฃ6300 I don't see anyone offering ยฃ8k to buy one ??!!
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nola!!
Jan 21, 2013 19:05:25 GMT 1
nola!!, by Sundowner on Jan 21, 2013 19:05:25 GMT 1, ยฃ6k is still too expensive and please stop talking prices up. Never heard about a 8 k nola on that forum or ever saw one for that price on ebay. They sell for 5.5k to 6.3 k and stop dreaming about 25% a year.
ยฃ6k is still too expensive and please stop talking prices up. Never heard about a 8 k nola on that forum or ever saw one for that price on ebay. They sell for 5.5k to 6.3 k and stop dreaming about 25% a year. If you can find a Nola for ยฃ5.5k, then please pass me the seller's contact details... |
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