My own experience is that it is pretty hard to sell stuff on here. I've been mucked around quite a lot selling stuff (even when it has been at cost price) and so can understand seller's reticence. Also I guarantee if you are a seller and you put up a price that is reasonable and below what the ebay price would be you will still be mucked around...

BONGO GET ANGRY WHEN HE RESPOND TO REQUESTS OR OFFERS AND PEOPLE NEVER GET BACK, EVEN TO SAY NO THANKS.

BONGO THINK THIS IMPOLITE

BONGO KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE

i just neg them everyday for a week.

Bugs the hell out of me Nick, had a confirmed swap agreed twice in the last 2 weeks with someone, only for them to back out twice and go silent. Followed by them to then go onto the light side and offer the same print up again for swap, timewasting sod, refuses to answer mail etc.... Honour aint what it used to be. At least I know nothing has happened to them, as they are posting on here today

You are right, I have had lots of good experiences as well, more buying than selling though. The trade with your good self was perfect if I may say so.

I think in reality it is that both sides are reluctant to start the negotiating ball rolling. You are reluctant to name your first offer and he is reluctant to name his price. I don't think it is any different really.

When I sell stuff I try really hard not to rip people off. I quote them a price that I think is below what the piece is actually worth on ebay and almost invariably they come back trying to haggle it down further.

Equally when I buy stuff I like to name a price I think it is worth and rarely go above that price. I will try and name a fair price that I think is what the item would fetch on ebay. Again people try and haggle you up.

Having said that there are a number of people on here who I have traded with who are not like this. If someone offers me something at a fair price (like for example bombhugger and ABC to name two) then I will just accept that price because I know it is fair.

I wonder if Bongo speaks like that when he is doing a deal. I'm going to buy the next thing he sells, and get his number, just to hear his real voice. I bet it's really posh! ;D

it's hard when there hasn't been much activity on the relavent item for a while.

i have hewlett's the hick, now say i wanted to sell that i'd say offers via pm only please. i want offers, if someone like yourself doesn't feel comfortable making an offer then don't get in touch, simple.
sometimes it's hard to quantify 'current' market value, even on pieces that are regularly being sold, if values are rising you ask for offers, if they are falling you ask for offers. so if my hewlett was going, i'd have to ask for offers or sell via ebay, i'd rather it went to someone on here but if i had no takers i'd have no choice.

also, sometimes the highest offer isn't the one i'd choose. a lot depends on how the deal would be concluded and it's worth selling lower and having a conveniant sale than holding out for the dollar only to have headaches.

i've bought and sold 5 times i think now on this and the other forum and have had nothing but pleasurable experiences. i've tried negotiating trades/swaps too but that can be a little difficult to agree on.

on the whole, i'm more than happy the way things are done privately, it's no one else's business expect the buyer and seller. just because it's in your professional nature to get the best available price doesn't mean we should bow to that, after all most people want what's best for them?

have you had a lot of negative negotiations on here nickc? although you don't like the phrase 'pm offer's' if you did, stating what you want to pay, less say 15/20% then you could still work a deal. no?

each to his own i suppose.

No. I aways imagined jagged metal teeth

pm me with offer's. ;D

For what it's worth Rob' I found you excellent to deal with. There's a reference here if you need one