gravity1
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by gravity1 on May 14, 2013 6:49:29 GMT 1, I would think anyone that has had more than a fair share of prints shipped to them, especially internationally, has had bad experiences with tubes. Maybe it's just me but I've had a bad run lately which is really starting to have me question this method as acceptable. Two main problems I keep seeing:
1) Tube damage : Even with heavy gauged tubes and even double tubing they seem to still be susceptible to damage. After some testing at home I saw that all it really takes is one heavy box or object to impact the tube and it can dent (especially in the center).
2) Print Edge Crushing: I have also been seeing a fair share of this even with what seems to be excellent inner tube packing with extra tissue paper, foam peanuts ect. Seems very hard to prevent this since the prints edges are obviously so fragile.
Just a survey really.. would like to hear how everyone prefers to receive their prints. I assume the cost of the print is definitely a factor as well so let's assume we are talking about prints worth £600 and up.
I'll start:
I prefer them flat and will now pay extra to get them that way. Every time.
I would think anyone that has had more than a fair share of prints shipped to them, especially internationally, has had bad experiences with tubes. Maybe it's just me but I've had a bad run lately which is really starting to have me question this method as acceptable. Two main problems I keep seeing:
1) Tube damage : Even with heavy gauged tubes and even double tubing they seem to still be susceptible to damage. After some testing at home I saw that all it really takes is one heavy box or object to impact the tube and it can dent (especially in the center).
2) Print Edge Crushing: I have also been seeing a fair share of this even with what seems to be excellent inner tube packing with extra tissue paper, foam peanuts ect. Seems very hard to prevent this since the prints edges are obviously so fragile.
Just a survey really.. would like to hear how everyone prefers to receive their prints. I assume the cost of the print is definitely a factor as well so let's assume we are talking about prints worth £600 and up.
I'll start:
I prefer them flat and will now pay extra to get them that way. Every time.
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Trevorm on May 14, 2013 8:01:26 GMT 1, Me too, I reckon I've had, in the past, about 10 or 12 incidents with either poor rolling on secondary purchases, edge compressed where the tube has been too short for the print + 2 or 3 tubes bent and mangled.
Prints over £600!? - I think I'd go and get 'em
Me too, I reckon I've had, in the past, about 10 or 12 incidents with either poor rolling on secondary purchases, edge compressed where the tube has been too short for the print + 2 or 3 tubes bent and mangled.
Prints over £600!? - I think I'd go and get 'em
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gravity1
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by gravity1 on May 14, 2013 8:15:45 GMT 1, I feel your pain .. I'm in the US so pickup is not often an option for me.
Me too, I reckon I've had, in the past, about 10 or 12 incidents with either poor rolling on secondary purchases, edge compressed where the tube has been too short for the print + 2 or 3 tubes bent and mangled. Prints over £600!? - I think I'd go and get 'em
I feel your pain .. I'm in the US so pickup is not often an option for me. Me too, I reckon I've had, in the past, about 10 or 12 incidents with either poor rolling on secondary purchases, edge compressed where the tube has been too short for the print + 2 or 3 tubes bent and mangled. Prints over £600!? - I think I'd go and get 'em |
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Deleted on May 14, 2013 9:34:46 GMT 1, I had a doubled tube once reinforced with metal from NY, I was really impressed (and this for a 30 USD print). Otherwise, at one point, I used to ask for thick PVC tubes  But agree, people should learn how to put a print in a tube first !!
I had a doubled tube once reinforced with metal from NY, I was really impressed (and this for a 30 USD print). Otherwise, at one point, I used to ask for thick PVC tubes But agree, people should learn how to put a print in a tube first !! |
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Deleted on May 14, 2013 10:16:26 GMT 1, Necessity is the mother of invention.
Here's an opportunity for someone to invent something light but sturdy enough to withstand transportation.
A thick cardboard tube housed within a tougher plastic tube is my suggestion, with the purchaser deciding at point of purchase on the type of tube they want and paying accordingly.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Here's an opportunity for someone to invent something light but sturdy enough to withstand transportation.
A thick cardboard tube housed within a tougher plastic tube is my suggestion, with the purchaser deciding at point of purchase on the type of tube they want and paying accordingly.
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Coach on May 14, 2013 10:43:23 GMT 1, Cut to size drainpipe would work.
Ive never had any problem with SOS tubes. Very sturdy.
Cut to size drainpipe would work.
Ive never had any problem with SOS tubes. Very sturdy.
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by vinzc on May 14, 2013 14:14:21 GMT 1, im quite reticent to post this, as i dont want to jinx it...but ive had about 30-40 prints/pieces shipped to me...with damage to 2 prints, and one giant 4'x6' canvas. and thankfully, many prints that have arrived looking beat up on the outside werent. is it good that it's happened to nearly 10% of my prints? no...but thankfully, all of my prized pieces have arrived with no issue (or those prized pieces were picked up in person).
1) large canvas in tube...tube basically arrived bent in a near L shape. it was insured, but when insurance inspectors arrived, they said nothing could be done because this was packaged by the seller, and not by the post that sent it. cracks in canvas
2) small inexpensive bast (revolution de papel or whatever), this was dinged on the corner (seemingly from shipping)...but the price was so good on it, that i didnt even bother telling the seller.
3) dran - this was definitely not stored flat, as advertised...when i took it out of the tube it had creases all over the back of it...but letting it sit flat for a couple of days, those creases went away.
@ gravity1 - i have a great vision of some dude hurling boxes at an inanimate tube in the 'testing process.' haha, kind of funny.
and that's another thing. i get so nervous picking pieces up in person. im just not comfortable carrying 1-3 pieces professionally framed in museum glass down the street all while trying to hail a cab without a free hand.
im quite reticent to post this, as i dont want to jinx it...but ive had about 30-40 prints/pieces shipped to me...with damage to 2 prints, and one giant 4'x6' canvas. and thankfully, many prints that have arrived looking beat up on the outside werent. is it good that it's happened to nearly 10% of my prints? no...but thankfully, all of my prized pieces have arrived with no issue (or those prized pieces were picked up in person).
1) large canvas in tube...tube basically arrived bent in a near L shape. it was insured, but when insurance inspectors arrived, they said nothing could be done because this was packaged by the seller, and not by the post that sent it. cracks in canvas
2) small inexpensive bast (revolution de papel or whatever), this was dinged on the corner (seemingly from shipping)...but the price was so good on it, that i didnt even bother telling the seller.
3) dran - this was definitely not stored flat, as advertised...when i took it out of the tube it had creases all over the back of it...but letting it sit flat for a couple of days, those creases went away.
@ gravity1 - i have a great vision of some dude hurling boxes at an inanimate tube in the 'testing process.' haha, kind of funny.
and that's another thing. i get so nervous picking pieces up in person. im just not comfortable carrying 1-3 pieces professionally framed in museum glass down the street all while trying to hail a cab without a free hand.
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Deleted on May 16, 2013 22:17:56 GMT 1, I always double tube now after Royal Mail crushed my Mau Mau printers proof!!
I always double tube now after Royal Mail crushed my Mau Mau printers proof!!
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by Ruggs on May 16, 2013 23:37:07 GMT 1, I've just ordered a very large Jamie Reid print from Opus Fine Art stating i'd like it sent flat and they are more than happy to do that for me. They also said they'd cover the £25 carriage costs.
I've just ordered a very large Jamie Reid print from Opus Fine Art stating i'd like it sent flat and they are more than happy to do that for me. They also said they'd cover the £25 carriage costs.
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by curiousgeorge on May 16, 2013 23:48:21 GMT 1, Hours of fun with the children a hamster,cardboard boxes and a little imagination
Hours of fun with the children a hamster,cardboard boxes and a little imagination
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by gravity1 on May 16, 2013 23:49:19 GMT 1, lol
Hours of fun with the children a hamster,cardboard boxes and a little imagination
lol Hours of fun with the children a hamster,cardboard boxes and a little imagination |
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by gravity1 on May 16, 2013 23:51:34 GMT 1, Agree 100%
Necessity is the mother of invention. Here's an opportunity for someone to invent something light but sturdy enough to withstand transportation. A thick cardboard tube housed within a tougher plastic tube is my suggestion, with the purchaser deciding at point of purchase on the type of tube they want and paying accordingly.
Agree 100% Necessity is the mother of invention. Here's an opportunity for someone to invent something light but sturdy enough to withstand transportation. A thick cardboard tube housed within a tougher plastic tube is my suggestion, with the purchaser deciding at point of purchase on the type of tube they want and paying accordingly. |
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by curiousgeorge on May 17, 2013 0:17:28 GMT 1, Correx board criss-crossed has worked well for me in the past when shipping flat
Correx board criss-crossed has worked well for me in the past when shipping flat
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I've had it w Tubes! How about you?, by David Soukup on May 17, 2013 1:32:09 GMT 1, For more expensive stuff this is how I have done it. yazoo tube either 4 inches or 6.5 inches in width. 4 inches longer (at least) in length. Wrap the print in glassine paper, pad the bottom and top with bubble wrap. Never had an issue.
100% the way to go. Yazoo Mills tubes, or something of similar wall thickness (despite the fact that uline gets a bad rap in the states, is because people order the cheaper and thinner tubes as opposed to the ones that are actually thicker than the Yazoo Mills stuff). I've had some horrendous jobs show up to me from forum members here (someone taped the ends, and didn't use caps, no surprise when it showed up crushed... he shall remain nameless), and some amazing ones. I've probably packed a couple hundred tubes in my lifetime (not just my art) and never once had an issue by following Akr1ka's way of doing it. Big diameter tubes, space at the ends, bubble wrap cushioning the package, and a thick tube.... The main issue is that most people don't leave room at the end for the print to wiggle.
If someone really wanted to get crazy, just go to any hardware store and buy a PVC drain tube. Price is just a little more and you just cut it to size. They have end caps for them right there or use ones for regular tubes of the same size. The stuff is pretty much indestructible in terms of shipping, and won't cost that much more to ship.
For more expensive stuff this is how I have done it. yazoo tube either 4 inches or 6.5 inches in width. 4 inches longer (at least) in length. Wrap the print in glassine paper, pad the bottom and top with bubble wrap. Never had an issue. 100% the way to go. Yazoo Mills tubes, or something of similar wall thickness (despite the fact that uline gets a bad rap in the states, is because people order the cheaper and thinner tubes as opposed to the ones that are actually thicker than the Yazoo Mills stuff). I've had some horrendous jobs show up to me from forum members here (someone taped the ends, and didn't use caps, no surprise when it showed up crushed... he shall remain nameless), and some amazing ones. I've probably packed a couple hundred tubes in my lifetime (not just my art) and never once had an issue by following Akr1ka's way of doing it. Big diameter tubes, space at the ends, bubble wrap cushioning the package, and a thick tube.... The main issue is that most people don't leave room at the end for the print to wiggle. If someone really wanted to get crazy, just go to any hardware store and buy a PVC drain tube. Price is just a little more and you just cut it to size. They have end caps for them right there or use ones for regular tubes of the same size. The stuff is pretty much indestructible in terms of shipping, and won't cost that much more to ship. |
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But agree, people should learn how to put a print in a tube first !!
