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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 16:07:05 GMT 1, Hi all just after people's views on this ! Obv it's a favourite of mine and I'd love to own one but what are members views on the price increase  You could have picked one up for about ยฃ2000 a couple of weeks ago ! Then someone offers ยฃ2500 for one and now one on flea bay for ยฃ3000 ! I know it's down to what people will pay on here etc but is it just a case of the print increasing in ยฃยฃยฃ that quick or members trying to cash in who own them ( which you can't fault !) and do you think they will be worth say ยฃ5000 in a years time Thanks all
Hi all just after people's views on this ! Obv it's a favourite of mine and I'd love to own one but what are members views on the price increase You could have picked one up for about ยฃ2000 a couple of weeks ago ! Then someone offers ยฃ2500 for one and now one on flea bay for ยฃ3000 ! I know it's down to what people will pay on here etc but is it just a case of the print increasing in ยฃยฃยฃ that quick or members trying to cash in who own them ( which you can't fault !) and do you think they will be worth say ยฃ5000 in a years time Thanks all |
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Quinnster
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by Quinnster on Jun 9, 2013 16:40:48 GMT 1, I don't see the attraction and would not pay ยฃ500 for it but that's only my opinion.
I don't see the attraction and would not pay ยฃ500 for it but that's only my opinion.
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sfinks
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by sfinks on Jun 9, 2013 16:44:04 GMT 1, and do you think they will be worth say ยฃ5000 in a years time
I will say 99% NO on that.
My thoughts on this issue is that its one of the audience favorite pice. Its been left pretty much alone, thinking of colorways. And it relates to so many, the image itself i think.
And yes, its a damn good image.
Peronally i dont like the creamish background on it, thats why i went for Kitty Riot when i was conflicted about witch to get. And the format to be honest. But back then and still, Kitty has for me always been a bit over Teddy.
Something heppend to Kitty when 4 new colorways came. The price on the original red release actually FELL. First time ive seen that on a dolk print. And its been down there ever since almost.
Witch to me is strange, because i think red is deffenetly the best color on the 5 that was made.
Also if i am not mistaken, the same was done with the canvas versions. Teddy got left alone and got rare, while Kitty got was it 3 colorways?
But looking at the Dolk canvas prices, i just dont see how this can go on and end up in ยฃ5000 within a year. If that happends, someone remind me i promiced to do another freebie handout competition(on something i have for sale at the time in the future if this should happen  ). So yes. Im betting on this hehe. If you are right, i have to GIVE away a print for free
Why not spice it up when its already a hot talking issue. Been that for a long time now, and i suspect it will continue untill things even out or someone brings this up in a year and remind us all how wrong some of us were.
My 5 cents.. hehe
and do you think they will be worth say ยฃ5000 in a years time I will say 99% NO on that. My thoughts on this issue is that its one of the audience favorite pice. Its been left pretty much alone, thinking of colorways. And it relates to so many, the image itself i think. And yes, its a damn good image. Peronally i dont like the creamish background on it, thats why i went for Kitty Riot when i was conflicted about witch to get. And the format to be honest. But back then and still, Kitty has for me always been a bit over Teddy. Something heppend to Kitty when 4 new colorways came. The price on the original red release actually FELL. First time ive seen that on a dolk print. And its been down there ever since almost. Witch to me is strange, because i think red is deffenetly the best color on the 5 that was made. Also if i am not mistaken, the same was done with the canvas versions. Teddy got left alone and got rare, while Kitty got was it 3 colorways? But looking at the Dolk canvas prices, i just dont see how this can go on and end up in ยฃ5000 within a year. If that happends, someone remind me i promiced to do another freebie handout competition(on something i have for sale at the time in the future if this should happen ). So yes. Im betting on this hehe. If you are right, i have to GIVE away a print for free Why not spice it up when its already a hot talking issue. Been that for a long time now, and i suspect it will continue untill things even out or someone brings this up in a year and remind us all how wrong some of us were. My 5 cents.. hehe |
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mmmike
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by mmmike on Jun 10, 2013 2:46:09 GMT 1, Personally I think it is all smoke and mirrors. I don't think anyone is paying these prices for this random Dolk print. I've seen a lot of member(s) here talking these up all of whom are brand new and just popped up to talk about how great these are and how they would pay their left nut for one. Call me an ideallist but I don't think there are that many foolish people here.
Personally I think it is all smoke and mirrors. I don't think anyone is paying these prices for this random Dolk print. I've seen a lot of member(s) here talking these up all of whom are brand new and just popped up to talk about how great these are and how they would pay their left nut for one. Call me an ideallist but I don't think there are that many foolish people here.
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sfinks
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by sfinks on Jun 10, 2013 3:07:58 GMT 1, Do you have any thoughts reguarding the fact in colorway differnece, both on print and canvas edition?
I am NOT trying to talk this up, i would prefere it went down again, and i suspect it will. Too strange with this insane high price jump all of a sudden. Dolk has been around for a long time, and what is happening here is so rare, hyping and price fixing was my first thoughts too. Just didnt want to accuse anyone early in the game, and let time tell the trouth.
Do you have any thoughts reguarding the fact in colorway differnece, both on print and canvas edition?
I am NOT trying to talk this up, i would prefere it went down again, and i suspect it will. Too strange with this insane high price jump all of a sudden. Dolk has been around for a long time, and what is happening here is so rare, hyping and price fixing was my first thoughts too. Just didnt want to accuse anyone early in the game, and let time tell the trouth.
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 8:02:21 GMT 1, Current hype thats all, happens all the time.
Current hype thats all, happens all the time.
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sfinks
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by sfinks on Jun 10, 2013 9:07:04 GMT 1, Current hype thats all, happens all the time.
Yea, I believe so too. And I am 99% sure we are correct 
Just donโt see it so often on so established artists as Dolk, do we?
Would think most ppl knew the value on most of the pieces by now.
But there are several types of hype imo
This one is because many wanted it at the same time, and some sellers saw the opportunity to profit on it. Juts an assumption from my side though. I am pretty sure when the ppl who REALLY was after it gets their hands on it, everything will be back to normal, and someone overpaid for a piece.
But I still stand behind my own analysis of the colorway history between Kitty and Teddy.
Current hype thats all, happens all the time. Yea, I believe so too. And I am 99% sure we are correct Just donโt see it so often on so established artists as Dolk, do we? Would think most ppl knew the value on most of the pieces by now. But there are several types of hype imo This one is because many wanted it at the same time, and some sellers saw the opportunity to profit on it. Juts an assumption from my side though. I am pretty sure when the ppl who REALLY was after it gets their hands on it, everything will be back to normal, and someone overpaid for a piece. But I still stand behind my own analysis of the colorway history between Kitty and Teddy. |
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by Press Play on Jun 10, 2013 10:03:15 GMT 1, Personally I think it is all smoke and mirrors. I don't think anyone is paying these prices for this random Dolk print. I've seen a lot of member(s) here talking these up all of whom are brand new and just popped up to talk about how great these are and how they would pay their left nut for one. Call me an ideallist but I don't think there are that many foolish people here.
I think you are spot on here. I believe the price got inflated when a new member at an Norwegian art forum announced that he was in the marked for a Teddy. Then he proposed to buy a Teddy for approx. ยฃ2878 after an hour. 5 days later he came up with an new offer of ยฃ3345. There has been no confirmation that he actually bought the print for this price.
For me it sounded like someone wanted to raise the expectation. I've never seen someone starting off over marked price. Usually people will try to beat the marked.
Personally I think it is all smoke and mirrors. I don't think anyone is paying these prices for this random Dolk print. I've seen a lot of member(s) here talking these up all of whom are brand new and just popped up to talk about how great these are and how they would pay their left nut for one. Call me an ideallist but I don't think there are that many foolish people here. I think you are spot on here. I believe the price got inflated when a new member at an Norwegian art forum announced that he was in the marked for a Teddy. Then he proposed to buy a Teddy for approx. ยฃ2878 after an hour. 5 days later he came up with an new offer of ยฃ3345. There has been no confirmation that he actually bought the print for this price. For me it sounded like someone wanted to raise the expectation. I've never seen someone starting off over marked price. Usually people will try to beat the marked. |
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by Gard on Jun 13, 2013 14:34:59 GMT 1, I helped him get one from this forum for 2500 GBP, so he didn't pay that. A lot of teddys appeared around that time, but I believe you will have a hard time getting one at 2000 GBP.
I don't understand why everyone here gets grumpy when pieces go up in price. How fast did Banksy go from a couple of hundred pounds to a couple of thousand pounds (I actually really want to know)? I really want to see a street artist go through the same price jump as Banksy, just to see how it works..
I helped him get one from this forum for 2500 GBP, so he didn't pay that. A lot of teddys appeared around that time, but I believe you will have a hard time getting one at 2000 GBP.
I don't understand why everyone here gets grumpy when pieces go up in price. How fast did Banksy go from a couple of hundred pounds to a couple of thousand pounds (I actually really want to know)? I really want to see a street artist go through the same price jump as Banksy, just to see how it works..
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mmmike
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Re dolk teddy riot ! Forum views, by mmmike on Jun 13, 2013 16:17:04 GMT 1, Dolk is no Banksy.
Personally I think Banksy print prices are crazy compared to his originals and compared to the prints of more famous, "bigger" artists. Warhol, Haring are good examples. Warhol is a rare case where his prints command a high value but he is one of the most famous and popular artists of all time. Haring is Haring. It blows my mind that Banksy prints command more than Haring's.
Some people (IMO) are going to be very disappointed in a few years with Banksy print prices.
Dolk is in a whole other level of stupid prices (if you believe the prices being thrown around here). Not sure people will remember him in 20 years. Not sure what he has done other than ride the street art wave. Don't get me wrong I think he has talent and makes some pretty pictures but so do a lot of people.
Haring and Warhol are 1 in a million while Dolk is 1 of a million. Banksy is somewhere in the middle.
Just my opinion. For the record I do have both Banksy and Dolk prints. I just don't think they are going to make me rich.
I don't own any Haring or Warhols.
Dolk is no Banksy.
Personally I think Banksy print prices are crazy compared to his originals and compared to the prints of more famous, "bigger" artists. Warhol, Haring are good examples. Warhol is a rare case where his prints command a high value but he is one of the most famous and popular artists of all time. Haring is Haring. It blows my mind that Banksy prints command more than Haring's.
Some people (IMO) are going to be very disappointed in a few years with Banksy print prices.
Dolk is in a whole other level of stupid prices (if you believe the prices being thrown around here). Not sure people will remember him in 20 years. Not sure what he has done other than ride the street art wave. Don't get me wrong I think he has talent and makes some pretty pictures but so do a lot of people.
Haring and Warhol are 1 in a million while Dolk is 1 of a million. Banksy is somewhere in the middle.
Just my opinion. For the record I do have both Banksy and Dolk prints. I just don't think they are going to make me rich.
I don't own any Haring or Warhols.
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You could have picked one up for about ยฃ2000 a couple of weeks ago ! Then someone offers ยฃ2500 for one and now one on flea bay for ยฃ3000 ! I know it's down to what people will pay on here etc but is it just a case of the print increasing in ยฃยฃยฃ that quick or members trying to cash in who own them 
). So yes. Im betting on this hehe. If you are right, i have to GIVE away a print for free 
