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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Sacked... on Jun 18, 2013 9:47:42 GMT 1,
£60,000-a-year surveyor who led secret life as leader of prolific graffiti gang which defaced hundreds of trains and buildings is jailed
Kristian Holmes, 32, caused £250,000 of damage to trains and buildings
The father-of-two sprayed 'VAMP' tag across rail network and even abroad
One of his accomplices was 4ft tall and required a stepladder to get on trains
Read more here :
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343196/60-000-year-surveyor-led-secret-life-leader-prolific-graffiti-gang-defaced-hundreds-trains-buildings.html
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Zippy on Jun 18, 2013 10:29:23 GMT 1, Let's get this into perspective... He sprayed trains and gets 3.5 years.
Stuart Hall - admits 14 offences of sexually abusing girls... 15 months.
Let's get this into perspective... He sprayed trains and gets 3.5 years.
Stuart Hall - admits 14 offences of sexually abusing girls... 15 months.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Dr Plip on Jun 18, 2013 10:32:07 GMT 1, Let's get this into perspective... He sprayed trains and gets 3.5 years. Stuart Hall - admits 14 offences of sexually abusing girls... 15 months.
"What are you in for?"
"Writing on trains  "
Let's get this into perspective... He sprayed trains and gets 3.5 years. Stuart Hall - admits 14 offences of sexually abusing girls... 15 months. "What are you in for?" "Writing on trains " |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Pupster on Jun 18, 2013 10:37:54 GMT 1, Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!!
Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!!
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Dr Plip on Jun 18, 2013 10:42:30 GMT 1, Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!!
It appears that crimes against individuals are not regarded as serious as crimes against the state or companies.
Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!! It appears that crimes against individuals are not regarded as serious as crimes against the state or companies. |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by sakyamuni on Jun 18, 2013 10:46:43 GMT 1, Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury:
"Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage" 
Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury: "Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage" |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Dr Plip on Jun 18, 2013 10:51:28 GMT 1, Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury: "Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage"
Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury: "Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage" Heck, he should have just owned up to being Banksy then. Even if he'd have got sent down, there'd be petitions and everything to get him released. |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Trevorm on Jun 18, 2013 11:43:39 GMT 1, 3+ years seems massively out of proportion. It may be that the element of perverting the course of justice made the difference on the sentence. Doesn't look like the defence team were up to it either.
3+ years seems massively out of proportion. It may be that the element of perverting the course of justice made the difference on the sentence. Doesn't look like the defence team were up to it either.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 11:49:38 GMT 1, How predictable to see the usual right wing stuck up comments by right wing stuck up Daily (Hate) Mail readers on the paper's website.
At least it gives them something to moan about other than immigrants or single mothers!
How predictable to see the usual right wing stuck up comments by right wing stuck up Daily (Hate) Mail readers on the paper's website.
At least it gives them something to moan about other than immigrants or single mothers!
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by ABC on Jun 18, 2013 13:00:52 GMT 1, Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury: "Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage"
Prosecutor James Murray-Smith told the jury: "Mr Holmes is a prolific graffiti vandal. We are not talking here about witty imaginative images such as those I expect you are familiar with by Banksy … I would suggest what you are dealing with is simple damage" That statement is an absolute joke. Are you telling me that now the authorities are happy with Banksy defacing walls, but all other street artist would face jail, WTF s he thinking. I'm sure the cost of removing Mr B's work over the years has amounted to a fair bit. It's a reminder of what the power of media and fame can do. |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 13:06:00 GMT 1, Worst headline ever but to be expected from that piece of shit rag.
Worst headline ever but to be expected from that piece of shit rag.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by v3rm33r on Jun 18, 2013 13:48:21 GMT 1, Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!! It appears that crimes against individuals are not regarded as serious as crimes against the state or companies.
Just reinforces my view that the legal system is screwed up!!!! It appears that crimes against individuals are not regarded as serious as crimes against the state or companies. Exactly, just like the whistleblowers exposing corruption on a massive scale will serve more time than those exposed. We are all slaves to the state and corporations that run it - enjoy!! |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Dr Plip on Jun 18, 2013 14:35:11 GMT 1, Twice, the article mentions "..trail of destruction".
Definition of destruction:
noun
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the action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired:
Man, he f_cked those trains and bridges up good and proper then.
My favourite comment at the bottom of the article is:
"Bet he wishes he taken up sexual predatory instead"
Twice, the article mentions "..trail of destruction".
Definition of destruction:
noun
[mass noun]
the action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired:
Man, he f_cked those trains and bridges up good and proper then.
My favourite comment at the bottom of the article is:
"Bet he wishes he taken up sexual predatory instead"
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 14:49:02 GMT 1, The Justice (or injustice) system is a real mockery. This bloke should have just had a warning surely.
The Justice (or injustice) system is a real mockery. This bloke should have just had a warning surely.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 15:01:40 GMT 1,
"Whoever invented the spray can paint, has a lot to answer for....
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Peter, keNT, United Kingdom,
18/6/2013 13:10"
Another insightful comment from an informed Daily Mail reader.
"Whoever invented the spray can paint, has a lot to answer for....
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Peter, keNT, United Kingdom,
18/6/2013 13:10"
Another insightful comment from an informed Daily Mail reader.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Dr Plip on Jun 18, 2013 15:08:10 GMT 1, "I trust his house has been seized to be sold on behalf of the tax payers who paid to have his stupid childish stuff removed?
- Hendonman , London, United Kingdom, 18/6/2013 13:15"
Yeah. Screw his partner and kids! He should have thought about that before he started putting paint on trains.
Just out of interest, does anyone on here know this guy?
"I trust his house has been seized to be sold on behalf of the tax payers who paid to have his stupid childish stuff removed?
- Hendonman , London, United Kingdom, 18/6/2013 13:15"
Yeah. Screw his partner and kids! He should have thought about that before he started putting paint on trains.
Just out of interest, does anyone on here know this guy?
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by spencerlee on Jun 18, 2013 15:28:40 GMT 1, And Cartrain still walks free.
THERE IS NO JUSTICE!
And Cartrain still walks free.
THERE IS NO JUSTICE!
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by blackdogprints on Jun 18, 2013 15:36:49 GMT 1,
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3 VAMP
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Coach on Jun 18, 2013 23:23:45 GMT 1, Sad. It does seem that the criminal justice system seeks to punish damage to property more severely that damage to the person.
I liked the point made about "destruction" above.
Some of the comments from the Daily Hate readers just stagger me.
In reality, the guy knew he was committing criminal damage. He knew the consequences of being caught. But can't have expected such a harsh sentence.
Obviously I hvent read the full summing up, and appreciate that the judges commenst may have been taken out of context, but it seems a very unusual comment from the judge about Banksy.
Is he suggesting writing on the streets is acceptable if what you write is witty? Who decides that - the judges?! Or is he suggesting writing on the streets is ok, but only if you are Banksy?! Seems unjustifiable imo.
Sad. It does seem that the criminal justice system seeks to punish damage to property more severely that damage to the person.
I liked the point made about "destruction" above.
Some of the comments from the Daily Hate readers just stagger me.
In reality, the guy knew he was committing criminal damage. He knew the consequences of being caught. But can't have expected such a harsh sentence.
Obviously I hvent read the full summing up, and appreciate that the judges commenst may have been taken out of context, but it seems a very unusual comment from the judge about Banksy.
Is he suggesting writing on the streets is acceptable if what you write is witty? Who decides that - the judges?! Or is he suggesting writing on the streets is ok, but only if you are Banksy?! Seems unjustifiable imo.
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by iamzero on Jun 18, 2013 23:40:06 GMT 1, I can't imagine that this is this guy first offence for graffiti. From personal experience I know there are usually countless cautions and smaller penalties before it comes to this. Even still I think the judges comments and sentencing is harsh. Example?
I can't imagine that this is this guy first offence for graffiti. From personal experience I know there are usually countless cautions and smaller penalties before it comes to this. Even still I think the judges comments and sentencing is harsh. Example?
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Feral Things on Jun 23, 2013 20:57:42 GMT 1, There was a piece in Friday's Guardian by Noir about sentencing for graffiti writers; it's online here.
There was a piece in Friday's Guardian by Noir about sentencing for graffiti writers; it's online here. |
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£60,000 a year Surveyor is sent to prison for graffiti crime, by Skippy on Jun 24, 2013 12:58:52 GMT 1, "tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk ....clik tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk ....tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk click tchk click tchk..click click tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk click....clik tchk tchk tchk tchk clik tch click!"
Skippy says....Strewth !! This beats the sh+t out of me why this bloke got such a long time in the big house !! How much can a Koala Bare ? I reckon the bloke who dished this out is a chop short of a BBQ!
"tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk ....clik tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk ....tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk click tchk click tchk..click click tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk tchk click....clik tchk tchk tchk tchk clik tch click!"
Skippy says....Strewth !! This beats the sh+t out of me why this bloke got such a long time in the big house !! How much can a Koala Bare ? I reckon the bloke who dished this out is a chop short of a BBQ!
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